OK, guys, this is the definitive music related question. What was the best punk record ever? What? Didn't listen to all of them? What are you waiting for?

i own all of the records u mentioned!! :D
theyre all awesome,brilliant,i couldnt say which one is the best,:D

Best punk album ever in my opinion is "Plastic Surgery Disasters" by the Dead Kennedys! ...those were the days of real punk. I don't really consider bands like Blink182 to be punk because they're more like pop stars with a wannabe punk image, kinda like a rock version of the backstreet boys..:p

I don't know if I'd rate Nirvana's Nevermind as punk. Maybe. But let's say it's not punk, then Green Day's Dookie wins it over the albums you mentioned, though I must say that Insomniac is even better, every song on that album is nice to listen to, espescially "walking Contradiction" it has some great lyrics, such as "losers winning big on the lottery" Billie Joe is so right about that :). How come I never win?? :D

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Best punk album ever in my opinion is "Plastic Surgery Disasters" by the Dead Kennedys! ...those were the days of real punk. I don't really consider bands like Blink182 to be punk because they're more like pop stars with a wannabe punk image, kinda like a rock version of the backstreet boys..:p

i bet u havent listened to "dude ranch" all u know about blink182 is waht u see on mtv:rolleyes:

Dookie and Dude Ranch are absolutely incredible albums,and have the best songs I have ever listened to.........:cool: :mrpimp:


mhflierman,Isomniac is a great album too:)

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Best punk album ever in my opinion is "Plastic Surgery Disasters" by the Dead Kennedys! ...those were the days of real punk. I don't really consider bands like Blink182 to be punk because they're more like pop stars with a wannabe punk image, kinda like a rock version of the backstreet boys..:p

I agree with shinji. Real punk was The Dead Kennedy's, Black flag with and without Henry Rollins. Circles Jerks,
Agent Orange, The Vandals all of these great California punk bands. :mrpimp: I like pennywise as well. THey're from Cali.

i agree with shinji as well their are heaps of "punk" bands and then their are real punk bands ... most of them signed on independent labels rather than BMG or EMI or what ever

Nofx are the best modern era punk band and seeing as i wasnt really in the blag flag era (although i have listened to their CDs) i would say punk in drublic and the decline are two awesome albums

Well, I agree with things everybody said, which is always good! :)

Bands like the Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, etc. were really breaking barriers and fully deserve the punk title. But before them we had the Ramones (who were recently inducted to the Hall of Fame), the Sex Pistols and the Clash.
[Funny, because I seriously thought I should add the Dead Kennedys to the poll]

Nowadays, we call punk to almost every band that dyes its hair green or red. They are the equivalent of the boys bands with a punk look. In fact, they are doing nothing other than burying punk.
However, "Dude Ranch", by Blink182 is a good LA melodic HC record. After that they simply sold out.

I think I voted NOFX's "Punk in Drublic", because they are one of my favourite bands ever (and great act live, btw). Actually, I own all of their records and a couple bootlegs. Plus, they made the dream of every independent band: be successful without EVER selling out. They have their own label, they record when they feel like, they play live when there's the urge to do it, etc.

BUT, I should have voted for Green Day. The Dookie album must have been one of the most played records in my cd player. I also own all of their records, special editions, etc. They really influenced me as, probably, no other band did. And yes, "Insomniac" is an amazing record, perhaps one of the most underrated in history.
For the first time, I looked like my heros without having to change my clothes and hairstyle (I was 16, so bare with me :D ).

I also had doubts about including Nirvana, but hey, if they weren't punk, if that wasn't their spirit, then I never heard punk in my life.


Punk rock changed my life -> The Sublime fans should know this one. ;)

Originally posted by Tom Green


i bet u havent listened to "dude ranch" all u know about blink182 is waht u see on mtv:rolleyes:

err..I don't even have MTV...and for your info, I'm 29 and grew up surrounded by the punk scene and used to frequent grungy punk bars that you'd be afraid to step into, so don't presume to tell me what I do and don't know...anyhow,you're probably just some kid who has his "punk" albums sitting on the shelf right next to crap like Brittany Spears and Bon Jovi..

Originally posted by ::shinji::


err..I don't even have MTV...and for your info, I'm 29 and grew up surrounded by the punk scene and used to frequent grungy punk bars that you'd be afraid to step into, so don't presume to tell me what I do and don't know...anyhow,you're probably just some kid who has his "punk" albums sitting on the shelf right next to crap like Brittany Spears and Bon Jovi..

bleh!:rolleyes: what an ass u are...u think you are the most punk rawking dude here,huh?? well good for you..i hate people like this:rolleyes:

Originally posted by INFESTA
Punk rock changed my life -> The Sublime fans should know this one. ;)

40 oz to Freedom!!!<---Great album.:mrpimp:

Originally posted by Can't stop the rush...


40 oz to Freedom!!!<---Great album.:mrpimp:

BINGO!!!!! :)

Originally posted by Tom Green


bleh!:rolleyes: what an ass u are...u think you are the most punk rawking dude here,huh?? well good for you..i hate people like this:rolleyes:

hey, you were the one telling me I only knew what I saw on MTV...so don't dish it if you can't take it, bleh! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by ::shinji::


hey, you were the one telling me I only knew what I saw on MTV...so don't dish it if you can't take it, bleh! :rolleyes:
so u are the coolest guy around,coz u are old,and u listen to old school punk(like none of us here does:rolleyes: ) and u go to punk bars? ha,awesome dude.how punk-rawk..while we're just a bunch of posers coz we listen to the rock-backstreet boys aka blink182,yeah,answer this,have u ever listened to dude ranch??? i really doubt so,and if u think that record sux,then all the new-school punk must suck for you,which is really lame...

Originally posted by Jambo Den
Dookie and Dude Ranch are absolutely incredible albums,and have the best songs I have ever listened to.........:cool: :mrpimp:


mhflierman,Isomniac is a great album too:)

I agree my good boy - Cheerio! I bought ye old Insomniac at Tower Records in London and listened to it the first time on the 2 am drive from Cheltenhem to London - INSOMNIA.

i agree with shinji viewing of punk rock...

the question is very hard so i got 3 records as the best ones ever:

Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
Clash - London Calling
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks... Here's The Sex Pistols

punk rock, bleh
i'll stick to zeppelin

Well I have to agree with some criticism of certain members on several bands. I think a lot of the popular rock bands are very commercial and "Backstreet Boys playing rock music". I'm talking about Limp Bizkit, Korn and more of that trash. Nirvana, Green Day and more of the older bands were just about expressing themselves and just playing music on stage.

BTW I do think that Blink 182 keeps on stealing from the big Green Day archive. Blink 182 sounds quite the same, but they have very lame, "funny" lyrics. Green Day's lyrics are actually about something.

Originally posted by mhflierman
BTW I do think that Blink 182 keeps on stealing from the big Green Day archive.

Tre Cool, Green Day's drummer, is so funny. Here's what he had to say about Blink182's music: "They sure sound like a good band!". :D :D

I agree too. I'm fed up of seeing band change their sound and/or image to try and sell records. Bands like Limp Bizkit, Marylin Manson (there's a fella that would be nothing if it wasn't for his image, which I think is stupid anyway), Robbie Williams,etc. To make matters worse their music is ****e anyway.

It's not often you see genuine bands anymore that are in it for the music. I'd like to see more like Nirvana, Blur, Hendrix, Beatles. Who pushed the boundries, who weren't afraid of writing things that sounded **** as long as they were experimenting with music (especially Blur's 13, never thought I'd hear a more experimental yet fantastic record in the late 90s, early 2000s.)

Anyway, to get back to your topic. I think London Calling, although I'm not going to vote because it's a tough one and I'm not a particularly punky person. Although I like NOFX and the Clash, I don't like Sex Pistols (sort of similar reasons to first paragraph, felt they relied on controversy and image too much) Blink182 (like someone said, Backstreet Boyz with spikey hair and tattoos), Sum 41, Beverly Hills 90210. :D

Originally posted by monkee
I agree too. I'm fed up of seeing band change their sound and/or image to try and sell records. Bands like Limp Bizkit, Marylin Manson (there's a fella that would be nothing if it wasn't for his image, which I think is stupid anyway), Robbie Williams,etc. To make matters worse their music is ****e anyway.


Got to agree with you there. It happens across the board. Whitesnake really went off the boil when David Coverdale dropped the likes of Pace, Lord, Marsden, Murray and Moody to go and ponce around in Spandex and make-up with a bunch of Motley Crue look-a-likes.

Some of the old boys are back on the circuit as The Snakes and they still pump out that good old raw blues rock sound!:D


Britney Spears in "Crossroads"

What next JayLo in "East Enders" and Christina Aguilera in "Coronation Street"?:mrpimp:

Green Day.- International Super hits!!

Originally posted by Tom Green

so u are the coolest guy around,coz u are old,and u listen to old school punk(like none of us here does:rolleyes: ) and u go to punk bars? ha,awesome dude.how punk-rawk..while we're just a bunch of posers coz we listen to the rock-backstreet boys aka blink182,yeah,answer this,have u ever listened to dude ranch??? i really doubt so,and if u think that record sux,then all the new-school punk must suck for you,which is really lame...

lol, I don't even know what you're talking about anymore...rawk on dude! :D

Originally posted by Can't stop the rush...


40 oz to Freedom!!!<---Great album.:mrpimp:

More specifically, the intro to Waiting for my Ruca, the first song on the album.

I voted for Nevermind the Bullocks because it is pure energy(albiet nothing compared to a Pennywise album), could be a top ten album today because it is better than Blink's stuff, and I sing along to every ****ing song on that album. Jonny Rotten is great dudes. It also opened the flood gates for punk bands, and modern punk. The Ramones were the grandfathers of it all, but the Sex Pistols played faster and harder, and they had a really nialistic attitude. The Ramones had an attitude, but there albums seem kind of weak. It's Alive is their best, and that's a live album.

NOFX is a great band, but I think their best album is So long and thanks for all the Shoes. Everyone should buy it.

I never liked London Calling, it is a bit tame for me. It's odd because I like the Specials who are really tame ska(compared to now), but when I get a punk album I want a tight one, and London Calling is not one. Dookie is great, and that would be my second choice, because that album got me into the music at an early age, and I've never turned back.

By the way, I think the best "punk" band out there, using a loose interpretation of the word, is Less than Jake. They ****ing rule. That is one hell of a band.

Yeah man, I love The Specials too! 'Message for Rudy' is the song that got me into them... Madness had some great ska tunes too.

does anyone here like Me first and the gimme gimmes ?

they are awesome !

Originally posted by maddog1983
does anyone here like Me first and the gimme gimmes ?

they are awesome !

Yes, I know them. Fat Mike (NOFX's singer/bass player) plays in that band.

Originally posted by Tom Green


i bet u havent listened to "dude ranch" all u know about blink182 is waht u see on mtv:rolleyes:

This is the Tom Green show, its not the Green Tom show, it is my favorite show because it is my show, if this was ur show u would probably like more just because it was ur show but it's not ur show, It's the tom green show..aaaaaaaaaa

Bring this back! Any new additions?

Hm. Depends on what you mean by "punk."

I stand by my Nevermind the Bullocks vote. Don't really stand by anything else I said 5 and a half years ago.

I really like Dude Ranch and Dookie still.

Welcome to 2002!

Btw I voted for Smash.

Does anyone consider The Damned punk-rock at all? What were they even considered?

The Clash - London Calling

I'd go for The Clash's "London Calling", but not exactly for being "the best punk record ever recorded", but for being the best album in that list, a masterpiece in my eyes (along with "Sandinista")

Nevermind The Bollocks is a great punk album, although it's myth goes way over it's quality... Still, the opening bass lines from Holydays in The Sun gets me into destructive mood everytime

How come the Ramones album chosen is not "Ramones"?

Where's Dead Kennedys? "Fresh fruits for rotting vegetables", anyone? Jello Biafra is the greatest punk frontman of all time (considering Joe Strummer is a rock n roll man above it all). No mohawks, no Sid Poser act, just simple raw, intense and funny-as-**** energy!

NOFX. Green Day, Offspring even Blink are interesting punk acts, NOFX especially being the founders of the skate-punk-lalala style, but c'mon, in terms of punk, how can those albums compare to The Misfits' "Walk Among Us" or DOA's "Hardcore 81"? Or a legendary band like the Bad Brains? or Black Flag?

And considering that defining "punk" it's a lost cause, you'd even have to consider The Stooge's "Funhouse", being probably the album that planted the whole punk rock genre's roots!

Dead Kennedy's - Fresh Fruits for Rotting Vegetables

Just about the only punk record I like.

And let's get this thread in the music forum.

The correct answer is Never Mind The Bollocks.

It's fine in here. It gets grandfathered in the SG Lounge being it existed before a music forum.

Never Mind The Bollocks has five good songs on it, the rest are awful, but I think it's probably the quintessence of punk and therefore the most important in that genre, and that's without even mentioning it's impact on music as a whole.

It's fine in here. It gets grandfathered in the SG Lounge being it existed before a music forum. Kind of defeats the object of having a music forum, or any other subforums for that matter. Furthermore, that place needs all the active threads it can get :p

Yes, that's what we're deciding anyway...the General Games forum was taken away given its relative inactivity...so what next?

What's up with all these phossiles you dudes keep digging. Practising to become an archeologist, eh? :p

Are you calling me a fossil?!

Oh my god and my hair is starting to fall out.

If Nevermind is considered punk, then it's the best on that list, IMO.

I wouldn't really include Nirvana in the same genre. I'd say that was more grunge, not that I'm an expert.

Oh and Never mind the bollocks is the best punk album I think, of those I've heard.

Does anyone consider The Damned punk-rock at all? What were they even considered?

You could be forgiven for claiming The Damned are punk rock. They ought to be revered at the same level as Sex Pistols, Ramones, The Clash, Dead Kennedys, Crass etc.

You could be forgiven for claiming The Damned are punk rock. They ought to be revered at the same level as Sex Pistols, Ramones, The Clash, Dead Kennedys, Crass etc.

If that's the case, that's some of the earliest punk-rock right there.

Nevermind pisses on every other album listed. It's in a different league, really.

Nirvana isn't really punk though.