I am just depressed. Everything just fell apart. I just don't think it's fair but I won't complain. We were soooo close!!!!!! And to see how the rest of you are acting has sickened me. When your team gets defeated no one makes fun of you so why make fun of us? Anyways, great play by Man Utd. At least they tried. HATS OFF to you Leverkusen, win the champions league.:)

Don't sweat it manufan, United did well to get this far and Leverkusen are a top side - top of a group that had Arsenal and Deportivo, and knocked out Liverpool - no shame in United losing to them.

Amazing to see Keane back - and he scored a goal.

:( .............may i be the first to say:

LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
AHAHAHA AHAHAHA
:D

seriously though, unlucky...............Bayer ist gute, Ja?:p

LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
AHAHAHA AHAHAHA

2 CLEARANCES OFF THE LINE! It feels so unfair. I know Bayer are a good team, but I think we deserved to go through today. The first 'clearance' was probably a goal, but it's all over now.

damn. it was close. Bravo to Leverkusen for going on.

damn. now all i hope is that the Manchester - Arsenal game is a better result than today.

damn.........................

Originally posted by man united forever
2 CLEARANCES OFF THE LINE! It feels so unfair. I know Bayer are a good team, but I think we deserved to go through today. The first 'clearance' was probably a goal, but it's all over now.
:D deserved to go through? aye right!:D outplayed in both legs,..........typical man u fan: " oh its soooooo unfair:( ":D

LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
AHAHAHA AHAHAHA

Originally posted by Neutral LFC
Don't sweat it manufan, United did well to get this far and Leverkusen are a top side - top of a group that had Arsenal and Deportivo, and knocked out Liverpool - no shame in United losing to them.

Amazing to see Keane back - and he scored a goal.
Thank you. You are a very civilised person. Unlike some people in here.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by manufan

Unlike some people in here.:rolleyes:
what? no one else is allowed to have fun?!:( :D

Originally posted by rvd313

:D deserved to go through? aye right!:D outplayed in both legs,..........typical man u fan: " oh its soooooo unfair:( ":D

LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
AHAHAHA AHAHAHA

Yeah.. that's what I expected from a person like you no more, no less... Did you even see the game? We had three goalbound shots cleared off the line and we played great. But let me remind you of something. laugh all you want but Rangers will never reach that level so keep dreaming..

Originally posted by rvd313

what? no one else is allowed to have fun?!:( :D

I didn't call your name so you've just sold out yourself:p

Originally posted by manufan


Yeah.. that's what I expected from a person like you no more, no less... Did you even see the game? We had three goalbound shots cleared off the line and we played great. But let me remind you of something. laugh all you want but Rangers will never reach that level so keep dreaming..
yeah i see the game, you didnt deserve to go through, and you even had the ref on your side. And Rangers have already reached that level:rolleyes: , infact we even beat Leverkusen in Germany a couple of years ago:mambo: so you keep dreaming about your fluke CL victory.

Originally posted by manufan


I didn't call your name so you've just sold out yourself:p
:D so? im proud of it:D

Originally posted by rvd313

:D deserved to go through? aye right!:D outplayed in both legs,..........typical man u fan: " oh its soooooo unfair:( ":D

LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
LETS ALL LAUGH AT MAN U
AHAHAHA AHAHAHA


Manchester United at least made it this far. They played their hearts out even with 2 (not just 1, but 2) of their most important players out with injury, Beckham AND Gary Neville. most teams would have just rolled over and died.

If we had not had 2 play Deportivo who were blatantly out to get all of our players, especially Beckham!!

This is not a whinge, but simply a facts statement. I will admit we were outclassed unfortunately in the games. However, that Danish bel-end of a ref came back to haunt us english again!! He is a disgrace, the commentator was appauled by the decisions he made. It would have been a different semi-final had becks, Neville and keano been fully fit for both legs.

Anybody think it was a bit weird that one team doesn't win the leauge or anything, then all of a sudden goes straight to a champions leauge final and almost winning the leauge??
DRUGS??????

Originally posted by Becksdrg



Manchester United at least made it this far. They played their hearts out even with 2 (not just 1, but 2) of their most important players out with injury, Beckham AND Gary Neville. most teams would have just rolled over and died.

EXACTLY

BTW, how many trophies have Rangers won past couple of years? None, cause Celtic is busy beating the living crap out of u.

Man. U. fans has nothing to be ashamed of. Our team played great, and thats all u can ask.

Originally posted by rvd313

:D so? im proud of it:D
I know.:D :crazyboy:

Originally posted by johnnyboyuk
If we had not had 2 play Deportivo who were blatantly out to get all of our players, especially Beckham!!

This is not a whinge, but simply a facts statement. I will admit we were outclassed unfortunately in the games. However, that Danish bel-end of a ref came back to haunt us english again!! He is a disgrace, the commentator was appauled by the decisions he made. It would have been a different semi-final had becks, Neville and keano been fully fit for both legs.

Anybody think it was a bit weird that one team doesn't win the leauge or anything, then all of a sudden goes straight to a champions leauge final and almost winning the leauge??
DRUGS??????
:confused: eh.........were you even watching the same game? the ref was on YOUR side, and did you see Solskjaer try to win a free-kick by diving, even though he could have been through on goal, now who exactly are the dirty cheats?:rolleyes:

Bayer have always been a good German team, near the top of the league, so dont talk crap. drugs? aye sure, whatever ya paranoid little glory hunter:mambo: and didnt United not win win the league the same season they won the CL? maybe they took drugs too:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Becksdrg
BTW, how many trophies have Rangers won past couple of years? None, cause Celtic is busy beating the living crap out of u.

Man. U. fans has nothing to be ashamed of. Our team played great, and thats all u can ask.
AAHAHAHAHA:D dont pretend you know anything about scottish football:rolleyes: we just won the CIS Cup this season and we will also win the scottish cup, also didnt we win the league 9 years in a row? and practicly dominate scotland and beat the **** outta celtic (almost put them outta buisness too) since the Graeme Souness era? eh? eh? GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!:mambo:

WE ARE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL SCOTTISH CLUB..........EVER!!!!!!!!!!

**** YOU!! How the hell was the ref on our team??
You dumbass, I doubt u watched the game, do they have telly in scotland now??
:p

Yes, Man Utd were second wen they qualified for the Champions league and wont it!!

I've beaten much smarter ppl in arguments than you, so i wouldn't start you prick!"!

I think you're the one just tryin 2 get a cheap laugh cos they'res a team gone out. But lets see how far you got this season, CIS cup?? so were there actually any decent teams in that? QF Uefa cup?? how **** is that!! And no league! So shuv that up ur dumbass scottish arse!!

And glory hunting, is that why ur a Rangers fan then is it??:confused:

Are you really proud to dominate that tiny country of scotland, with about only 2 teams ever winning ur crappy league??

What a disappointing result, Man U did try, and they went ahead thru Roy Keane.
One slip of defence work, Bayern got the equaliser.

However, Bayern had done well undoubtfully, but we also had couple of chances on the goal line. For me, the first one from Johnsen, already across the line before Ze Roberto cleared it out. Football is like this, sometimes full of controversial.

Man U should look forward now against Arsenal this Thursday.

why can this forum never have a decent conversation without someone throwing cheap shots at another team :rolleyes:

anyway as a man utd fan said to me in here when leverkusen beats us

"your out nobody cares about your team now, you can't win any trophies this year"

Rangers winning the scottish cup? be proud. thats the best you can do. LOL


there is a reason Celtic and Rangers tried to join the Premiership.... one is more money, another is the scottish league is garbage. its a 2 team league. i wouldn't be proud of winning that.

rangers are a top team on a second tier league. Manchester United have been the top team on one of the top 3 leagues in the world.

Originally posted by johnnyboyuk
**** YOU!! How the hell was the ref on our team??
You dumbass, I doubt u watched the game, do they have telly in scotland now??
:p

Yes, Man Utd were second wen they qualified for the Champions league and wont it!!

I've beaten much smarter ppl in arguments than you, so i wouldn't start you prick!"!

I think you're the one just tryin 2 get a cheap laugh cos they'res a team gone out. But lets see how far you got this season, CIS cup?? so were there actually any decent teams in that? QF Uefa cup?? how **** is that!! And no league! So shuv that up ur dumbass scottish arse!!

And glory hunting, is that why ur a Rangers fan then is it??

Are you really proud to dominate that tiny country of scotland, with about only 2 teams ever winning ur crappy league??
cant you take defeat or something? **** sake, i was just having a laugh:mambo: i welcome you to do the same if we get beat in the scottish cup final.

oh and wasnt the tv invented in SCOTLAND, by a.......eh.......SCOTSMAN? :D you cant even get your facts right:D HAHAHAHAHAHHA.......i so pity you, you have to insulty a country thats sooooooooo much better than yours.

oh and im a rangers fan cos they`re my local team, dickhead:rolleyes:

question...

what place are the rangers in?

btw


RVN u are a ranger fan...

but please don't think the Rangers are better than Man U.

Talking about Glasgow Rangers, their achievement seemed to be limited only in Scotland itself. In Europe, they hardly made an impact.

In fact, Rangers are not in the same class with Man U.
Even in the computer simulation soccer games, they are only categorized in B or C class.

So, compare Rangers with Man U is no fair.

Glasgow maybe the final destination of Champpions League this season, but the team of this city still got a long way to go.

hehehehe.... keep it goin' guys.....:mrpimp:

Originally posted by Becksdrg
Rangers winning the scottish cup? be proud. thats the best you can do. LOL


there is a reason Celtic and Rangers tried to join the Premiership.... one is more money, another is the scottish league is garbage. its a 2 team league. i wouldn't be proud of winning that.

rangers are a top team on a second tier league. Manchester United have been the top team on one of the top 3 leagues in the world.
your american what the **** would you know about football anyway? your a glory hunter. the scottish cup is worth a lot more than "The F.A. Cup":rolleyes: and we happen to be undefeated against English sides in europe:D we`ve been one of the most successful british sides ever, winning more trophies and beating bigger sides than man u ever will. i remember the year we won the cup winners cup, bayern munich were the best team at the time, and we absolutely ****ed them.

i would be more proud winning the ****ing welsh league than i would winning the Premiership, competitve? so what? 10 old men walking around a running track would also be competitive.:rolleyes:

and what exactly is a second tier league? didnt celtic beat you 4-3 this season? at old trafford? and didnt we beat you 1-0? the very year before you won the CL?:mambo:

How many European Cups have your Rangers won, rvd?
Is that number by any chance:
0?

Originally posted by yoyo_911
question...

what place are the rangers in?

btw


RVN u are a ranger fan...

but please don't think the Rangers are better than Man U.
question.........what place are man u in?:rolleyes:

i can think what i want......its a free country:rolleyes:

Originally posted by man united forever
How many European Cups have your Rangers won, rvd?
Is that number by any chance:
0?
1:mambo:

Thanks mate, just checking:crazyboy: :D :p

Originally posted by genesis

In fact, Rangers are not in the same class with Man U.
Even in the computer simulation soccer games, they are only categorized in B or C class.
.

i hate that with FA manager rangers and celtic are as good as if not better than teams like newcastle , chelsea , depor those fringe sides... i dont think in real life they are that close (not taking a shot at you RVN just stating what i think )

Now, maybe the situation does not looked good for Man U, maybe Man U will end with empty-hands, but if Fergie can solve the defence problem, I'm sure we can achieve further and better in the next season.

Originally posted by genesis
Talking about Glasgow Rangers, their achievement seemed to be limited only in Scotland itself. In Europe, they hardly made an impact.

In fact, Rangers are not in the same class with Man U.
Even in the computer simulation soccer games, they are only categorized in B or C class.

So, compare Rangers with Man U is no fair.

Glasgow maybe the final destination of Champpions League this season, but the team of this city still got a long way to go.
we hardly made an impact due to cheats, referees, Marseille bribing teams, and Oliver Kahn injuring our best striker.

same class? aye a know we`re a better class, we dont dont rely on a few players:rolleyes: we could beat man u and man u could beat us...........so? thats football, no team is invincible:mambo:

Originally posted by rvd313





didnt celtic beat you 4-3 this season? at old trafford? and didnt we beat you 1-0? the very year before you won the CL?:mambo:

And din't we beat them 1-0? The question is: Can you beat us now?:mambo: You seem to like history a lot.

u can talk all about cheap wins... fact of the matter is that when it is all said and done, manchester United will STILL be regarded as one of the better teams in the world and Rangers will not.

its funny that u ACTUALLY THINK the scottish league is better than the Premeirship.

how many European Trophies have rangers won recently? or even been a real threat for? i can talk about trophies won 5-10 years ago, and games won just as long ago...
(and didnt we beat you 1-0? the very year before you won the CL?) as u elegantly put it.

manchester United has won trophies since they won the CL final. i would still like to count the CL trophies that rangers have won.........

can i just say, i didnt mean to start a fight here:D i just came to have a laugh at man u, is that soooo wrong? i admitted they were unlucky didnt i? Well done Bayer. Unlucky Man Utd.:mambo:

if people cant handle people taking the piss outta they`re team after they got beat, why bother being a football fan?

honestly, i want to count the number of CL trophies Rangers have won.......

lets see......

Originally posted by manufan


And din't we beat them 1-0? The question is: Can you beat us now?:mambo: You seem to like history a lot.
of course we can beat you. any team can be beaten.............even Berwick Rangers:mambo: :( :D

oh yeah..... NONE!!!!!!!!!

u can talk about being a fan. heck everyone is a fan, but i am also a realist. And in reality, Rangers would not be able to handle Manchester United. as much as u might think they would, they can't.

Originally posted by Becksdrg
honestly, i want to count the number of CL trophies Rangers have won.......

lets see......

AHHHHHHH SHHAAAADDAAAAP:D :crazyboy:

Originally posted by rvd313

we hardly made an impact due to cheats, referees, Marseille bribing teams, and Oliver Kahn injuring our best striker.

same class? aye a know we`re a better class, we dont dont rely on a few players:rolleyes: we could beat man u and man u could beat us...........

riiiight.........:mambo: You are a better class. Yet you fail to qualify for the CL and fail to even make an impact. The last time I saw you in the CL, you were struggling against Monaco at home. We could comfortably beat Monaco at home or away. And that's dumb, saying we rely on a few players. Can't you see we played without G.Neville and Becks? We still managed a decent result. Look, Liverpool, The Defensive Crag, got wiped all over the Bayarena. All just talk mate. talk.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Becksdrg
honestly, i want to count the number of CL trophies Rangers have won.......

lets see......
the CL was formed in 1992, the same year we knocked out Leeds, the english champions, went on only to be knocked out in the semi-finals by the cheating Marseille.:mambo:

heres a question, how many times have man u beaten Rangers? and how many Rangers victories against Man U?

u can talk about games rangers won years ago, and how many titles they won YEARS AGO.... but in the present, Rangers have been getting creamed by Celtic, and Manchester United have won three titles in a row, against much better competition.

Originally posted by rvd313

of course we can beat you. any team can be beaten.............even Berwick Rangers:mambo: :( :D

Of course Berwick Rangers could be beaten silly.:p I tell you, once our defensive issues are resolved, we would be unstoppable.

Originally posted by manufan


riiiight.........:mambo: You are a better class. Yet you fail to qualify for the CL and fail to even make an impact. The last time I saw you in the CL, you were struggling against Monaco at home. We could comfortably beat Monaco at home or away. And that's dumb, saying we rely on a few players. Can't you see we played without G.Neville and Becks? We still managed a decent result. Look, Liverpool, The Defensive Crag, got wiped all over the Bayarena. All just talk mate. talk.:rolleyes:

we were in the CL this season dumbass:mambo: ok not the group stage, but still..........and the only reason we couldnt beat Monaco was.......Amoruso giving the ball away, oh and we easily beat Monaco in......eh......Monaco:mambo:

Originally posted by Becksdrg
...but in the present, Rangers have been getting creamed by Celtic, and Manchester United have won three titles in a row, against much better competition.

OUCH!

Originally posted by rvd313

the CL was formed in 1992, the same year we knocked out Leeds, the english champions, went on only to be knocked out in the semi-finals by the cheating Marseille.:mambo:

heres a question, how many times have man u beaten Rangers? and how many Rangers victories against Man U?

Again, you come with the past. How many times do we face Rangers? The few times we played ya'll was probably when we sucked and you guys won. Anyways, as I said, the past doesn't count for now.

Originally posted by manufan


Of course Berwick Rangers could be beaten silly.:p I tell you, once our defensive issues are resolved, we would be unstoppable.
we only managed to beat Berwick after a replay:eek: the mighty Berwick:mambo: unstoppable? :D

Originally posted by rvd313


we were in the CL this season dumbass:mambo: ok not the group stage, but still..........and the only reason we couldnt beat Monaco was.......Amoruso giving the ball away, oh and we easily beat Monaco in......eh......Monaco:mambo:

EXACTLY!!!!!!! NOT IN THE GROUP STAGES!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.....DUMBASS!!!!!!:crazyboy: :p Stuttering eh?:mrpimp:

Originally posted by Becksdrg
u can talk about games rangers won years ago, and how many titles they won YEARS AGO.... but in the present, Rangers have been getting creamed by Celtic, and Manchester United have won three titles in a row, against much better competition.
Creamed? when exactly did we get creamed? last time i checked we were kickin the **** outta Celtic, knocking them outta the cup and denying them their 100% home record:mambo: not to mention outplaying them for about 20 years straight:mambo:

Originally posted by rvd313

we only managed to beat Berwick after a replay:eek: the mighty Berwick:mambo: unstoppable? :D

YES!!!!!!!!!! UNSTOPPABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MUAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mrpimp: :crazyboy:

Originally posted by manufan


Again, you come with the past. How many times do we face Rangers? The few times we played ya'll was probably when we sucked and you guys won. Anyways, as I said, the past doesn't count for now.
thats a stupid thing to say, your CL win was in the past too, also tomorrow is the past isnt it? cos its passed? eh?:D the past is always important, your not a real football fan if you dont know the past:mambo:

Originally posted by rvd313

thats a stupid thing to say, your CL win was in the past too, also tomorrow is the past isnt it? cos its passed? eh?:D the past is always important, your not a real football fan if you dont know the past:mambo:

Sure, you have to appreciate the past, but no use it as a basis for argument, when it doen't matter now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Originally posted by manufan


Sure, you have to appreciate the past, but no use it as a basis for argument, when it doen't matter now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
so we wouldnt be able to use Real Madrids victory in the Nou Camp as an argument that they will get to the final then? eh?:confused: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by rvd313

so we wouldnt be able to use Real Madrids victory in the Nou Camp as an argument that they will get to the final then? eh?:confused: :rolleyes:

Now you are getting ridiculous. BLOODCLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WAS A FEW DAYS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN I SAY PAST, I MEAN LIKE A FEW SEASONS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by manufan


Now you are getting ridiculous. BLOODCLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WAS A FEW DAYS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN I SAY PAST, I MEAN LIKE A FEW SEASONS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tomorrow is the past right? it may not be years ago but its still the past;) am i gettin on yer nerves yet?:D

Originally posted by rvd313

tomorrow is the past right? it may not be years ago but its still the past;) am i gettin on yer nerves yet?:D

Tommorow is the future bullethead!!!!!!!!!:p :D

Originally posted by manufan


Tommorow is the future bullethead!!!!!!!!!:p :D :(
i meant to say either tomorrow will become the past or yesterday is the past:D :confused:

Just as I expected 1-1 draw.

Originally posted by rvd313

i meant to say either tomorrow will become the past or yesterday is the past
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

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Originally posted by manufan
I am just depressed. Everything just fell apart. I just don't think it's fair but I won't complain. We were soooo close!!!!!! And to see how the rest of you are acting has sickened me. When your team gets defeated no one makes fun of you so why make fun of us? Anyways, great play by Man Utd. At least they tried. HATS OFF to you Leverkusen, win the champions league.:)

no need to be feeling ashame... and i won't laugh at man u... btw, who said that if my team gets defeated no one makes fun of us... look at jono's sh!t thread about liverpool...:rolleyes:

well i think this is where man united have to realize they arent a supreme power. they have come crashing down to earth and they have to re-build. i admit it 3 yrs ago i was a man u fan but i decided to change because i wanted to support a team that had a challenge so i decided arsenal. but now i have been proven wrong man u had the challenge and they failed. to all man u fans im sorry i left the supporters bandwagon and im also sorry that we wont see any man u silverware for 2001-2002.

well, i've read through the whole thread... some nice argument from both rvd and manufans...

but i guess that rvd is somehwat correct when saying that man u depend on 2-3 players to more extent , and guys who are making excuses of not having bex or g. neville .....i don't feel sorry for them.

bad luck man utd. .....leverkusen too hot to handle:eek:

Originally posted by Dhruv
but i guess that rvd is somehwat correct when saying that man u depend on 2-3 players to more extent , and guys who are making excuses of not having bex or g. neville .....i don't feel sorry for them.

bad luck man utd. .....leverkusen too hot to handle:eek:

yape.. leverkusen is too d@mn hot to handle... :rolleyes:

lol, I almost shetted in my pans when Butt came out to get the ball but missed it, and then that Uruguayan guy tried to lob him, but Placente came to rescue. It kinda reminded me of the '99 final. Both teams had a lot of chances, it could have gone either way. I think the defending was poor because of the slippery pitch. All in all, Bayer had a harder road to get to the final. And that's why they deserved it.

They had to get past all of these teams to make it to the final:

Barcelona (semi-final, unprobable final)
Lyon (second in France, one point behind first)
Arsenal (leading Premiership)
Juventus (second in Italy, one point behind first)
Deportivo (Third in Spain, 3 points behind Madrid)
Liverpool (3rd in Premiership, 2 points behind ManU)

and of course ManU.

ManU finished second to Deportivo in the first phase of the group stage, and Bayern was the only other "good" team that they had to face before again playing against Deportivo. You could argue about how good Boavisto is, but they were clearly behind both Bayern and ManU.

What I'm trying to say is that, not the team with the better players advanced, but the team who had a tougher road to get there. And if you still don't think that Leverkusen is a good side, then I got nothing to say.

I didn't watch the actual match.
Why was the pitch slippery?
Was the match played in the rain or something?

I don't know why. When Keane scored his goal, Zivkovic slipped while trying to get to the ball. Keane would have never gotten to the ball if Zivkovic hadn't slipped. Also, Blanc slipped when Neuville scored.

I will hold my comments untill after the game tomorrow...:D

Its good to see an underdog make it all the way to the final and take 2 english scalps along the way ;)

Leverkusen focus on attacking football and fully deserve their place in the final. Personally i hope they go all the way :D

Originally posted by sip
Its good to see an underdog make it all the way to the final and take 2 English scalps along the way ;)

That's hillarious.
:D :D :D

Originally posted by Can't stop the rush...
I will hold my comments untill after the game tomorrow...:D

a true diplomat good luck with the game tonight lets hope you piss barca off

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