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::shinji::
15-05-2002, 09:16:AM
Anyone else here a 'Mixed Martial Arts' fan??? I'm talking about no-hold barred events likethe Ultimate Fighting Championship, Pride, K-1, etc....

www.ufc.tv

www.pridefc.com



:D

Larry
15-05-2002, 10:30:AM
nope not me!

Paul
15-05-2002, 01:41:PM
Is that like full on "beat the crap outa each other using martial arts" ?

::shinji::
15-05-2002, 01:52:PM
Originally posted by Grassy56
Is that like full on "beat the crap outa each other using martial arts" ?

yup, that's the one! :D

Paul
15-05-2002, 02:43:PM
that'd be funny to watch :D

::shinji::
15-05-2002, 03:03:PM
you should check out www.sherdog.com and go to thier 'videos' section...there you can download mpegs of highlight reels of knockouts and stuff, some are just crazy! :D

Also, in the highlight reels section, I suggest you download the "Vanderlei Silva Highlights" ...that guy is a f*cking maniac!!!

Paul
15-05-2002, 03:10:PM
sounds awsome :D

very cool, maybe, just maybe better than wrestling :D

Acid (X) Amino
15-05-2002, 09:08:PM
crazy!

What Shinji meant by this???
:p ;)

INFESTA
16-05-2002, 01:10:AM
Originally posted by ::shinji::
you should check out www.sherdog.com and go to thier 'videos' section...there you can download mpegs of highlight reels of knockouts and stuff, some are just crazy! :D

Also, in the highlight reels section, I suggest you download the "Vanderlei Silva Highlights" ...that guy is a f*cking maniac!!!

Good old Vanderlei.:mambo: They used to show this sport in the brazilian channel. It's called "Vale Tudo" (Anything goes).:mambo:

Number9
16-05-2002, 01:26:AM
Hmmm, sounds like my girlfriends kinda thing :rolleyes:
Shes a kung foo slappa ! Kick anyones *** ....
well exept mine of course :crazyboy:
Do u kno if this kinda thing is done ova here in england ?

Paul
16-05-2002, 02:08:AM
your g/f is one of those toughies :D

::shinji::
16-05-2002, 04:51:AM
Originally posted by Number9
Hmmm, sounds like my girlfriends kinda thing :rolleyes:
Shes a kung foo slappa ! Kick anyones *** ....
well exept mine of course :crazyboy:
Do u kno if this kinda thing is done ova here in england ?

These events are usually held in the United States, Japan, or Brazil...but beleive it or not, the next UFC event is going to be held in England for the first time...not exactly sure where, check www.ufc.tv for details.


INFESTA...

yeah, I've never actually seen real 'Vale Tudo' ,I don't think CXanaian TV allows it, hehe Ever see another Brazillian guy named 'Vitor Belfort'? That guys has the fastest hands I've ever seen..

emmer
16-05-2002, 08:25:PM
if i am not wrong the last time ufc was shown by tv here in brazil it was pay-per-view system... i remember it was f*ckin expensive so i didn't pay and i didn't see!! :rolleyes: :mambo:

haha, vitor belfort... he uses a kinda jiu-jitsu style. there's a reality show in brazil named "casa dos artistas" and guess what... BELFORT WAS IN IT! he was eliminated but his girlfriend keeps in the house.

his gf is joana prado, "a feiticeira"... LOL :D

http://www.bansen.com.br/playboy/PLAY2002/JOANA6abril_small.jpg

you can see this pic better here (http://www.bansen.com.br/playboy/PLAY2002/JOANA6abril.jpg) :o

Paul
16-05-2002, 08:36:PM
damn this sport rocks, lots of fighting, good chic's

what more would u want?

Number9
17-05-2002, 02:29:AM
Originally posted by Grassy56
damn this sport rocks, lots of fighting, good chic's

what more would u want?

Some hot luvin off some of the good chics maybe ??
:D :D

::shinji::
05-01-2007, 05:03:PM
Had to drag up this old thread of mine to post some big news for any fight fans out there.. well, I guess this is a week or so old now, but the UFC has signed Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson and CroCop from Pride, they'll be making their debut's at the next event on Feb. 3! Master striker Anderson Silva will be on the fight card also..

It's good to see top rank fighters like Ramage and Jackson joing the UFC heavyweight division, which was really lacking depth..

Ubik Valis
05-01-2007, 06:18:PM
It's good to see top rank fighters like Ramage and Jackson joing the UFC heavyweight division, which was really lacking depth..

Ramage sounds like a gay name, sure you didn't mean Rampage? :(


Oh and CroCop \o ...fu*king legend, all he needed was one solid kick to the kidney on that huge-ass Bob Sapp mothafu*ka, and he was done. (H)

::shinji::
05-01-2007, 06:47:PM
oops, yeah sorry about the Rampage typo, I've been drinking a lot lately...

Yeah CroCop's awesome, I wanna see him take out the no-talent champ Tim Sylvia. It's gonna be interesting with Rampage too because the guy he's fighting on his debut (Marvin Eastman) actually beat him before a long time ago. I have an old king of the Cage tape from like the late 90's where Jackson got owned by this Muay Thai fighter....turns out it's the guy he's fighting again!

I wish the UFC would throw in a "circus fight" now and then too, like Pride does with those Sumo guys...something like Tank Abbott vs. Butterbean, just to keep things entertaining

Ubik Valis
05-01-2007, 06:49:PM
oops, yeah sorry about the Rampage typo, I've been drinking a lot lately...




Haha. (H)


Damn, this thread is so old, it's got a reply by Acid (X) Amino in it. :(


Even Hugo's replied in it!!!

bigp
05-01-2007, 08:07:PM
It sucks that GSP is out of the Feb card. That just delays some interesting matches like GSP v Diego, GSP v Hughes 3, GSP v Penn 2, etc.
And yes I'm purposely overlooking Serra because there's just no way he will beat him.

To the Brits, Bisping looked pretty good in his recent win and he looks like he has potential to be a very good fighter.

And Dragan, your Scandinavian brother Joachim Hansen lost by a GOGO***INPLATA!

::shinji::
05-01-2007, 08:22:PM
GSP is so awesome...a match against D. Sanchez would be amazing! Yeah, Serra's a bum, just an average generic BJJ fighter. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise that Georges St. Pierre hurt his knee, maybe the next time he enters the octagon it'll be for a better fight than with Serra..

I miss Genki Sudo, wish he'd come back to UFC

Phillip1
05-01-2007, 09:31:PM
Yes, I watch UFC too. Its a good show.

mika
12-01-2007, 04:31:AM
UFC pwnz

I wanna see Wanderlei Silva va Liddell so f*ken bad

can't wait till Liddell gets KO... it's getting kinda old seeing him kock everyone out

::shinji::
12-01-2007, 02:44:PM
Liddell got owned by Rampage at Pride

mika
12-01-2007, 07:54:PM
yeah and Rampage got pwned by Wanderlei 2 times

f*ckin knees, he got KO so bad Rampage fell out of the ring

I dont think Rampage can beat Liddell

::shinji::
12-01-2007, 08:42:PM
I dunno, I don't really mind Liddell too much, he's better than some of the other champs the UFC has had....like Randy Couture who was borring as hell. Tim Sylvia though is one of the worst title holder right now. I wish the UFC would just combine the light heavyweight and heavyweight divisions, there'd be so many more good match-ups. It would be good to see a guy like Liddell have to fight someone who outweighed him by like 50 lbs. like they do at Pride.

Ever see the Wanderlei Silva vs. Mark Hunt match, that was awesome! Lots of good hits and knock-downs..

mika
12-01-2007, 08:49:PM
yeah I did see that, they gonna fight again soon

and yeah f*ck Tim Sylvia, he sucks, no one likes him, its just doesnt feel right for him to have the belt but they added Cro Cop to the UFC heavyweights and he is like world class, he beat Silva in September in Pride

mika
12-01-2007, 08:57:PM
how come no one watches UFC?

it's cause most people here aren't from US... it's like the most popular thing here right now

::shinji::
12-01-2007, 09:46:PM
it's big alright, and they're predicting it will eventually catch pro boxing in terms of popularity, money, promotions, etc.. they just need to keep getting more exiting fighters. WanderleiSilva would definitely bring in big bucks for the UFC

mika
12-01-2007, 10:09:PM
imagine they get fedor to sign with UFC

that will be just sick

if I was in Pride I'd go to UFC, I rather fight in US than Japan

Phillip1
12-01-2007, 10:11:PM
Yeah. I watch UFC and think it is great. It makes all other sports obsolete. I cannot even watch any another sport right now, they seem retarded and boring. Go UFC, go Chris 'The Crippler' Leben!

mika
12-01-2007, 10:38:PM
lmfao f*cking wanderlei silva

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDQEuG7wSoI

Yossarian
17-01-2007, 11:20:PM
imagine they get fedor to sign with UFC

that will be just sick

if I was in Pride I'd go to UFC, I rather fight in US than Japan


WHY? The Japanese have a better understanding of the complexities and nuances of the sport and organize it better. Also, in Japan, the bigger guys, especially the native talent, are a lot bigger than any North American fighter in the UFC. Way bigger celebrities, man.


One more thing, (just a personal preference here) I'd rather live in Japan than Vegas, wouldn't you? I haven't been to Japan, but Jesus, given the opportunity Vegas or Japan? It ain't even a question. man.

mika
17-01-2007, 11:55:PM
what are u crazy

I'd rather be in vegas/los angeles u can do anything u want here if u got money

plus u make way more money in US, I read on the internet, the president of pride was saying that they couldnt match the salaries the US was paying their fighters thats why they lost cro cop

Yossarian
18-01-2007, 12:23:AM
You mean to tell me that you couldn't do all the **** that you wanted in Japan aswell with the right kind of connections/bank account? Anyway, Macau has long ago surpassed Vegas as the adult playground capital of the world. Vegas is a ******* neutered ****hole nowadays anyway, man.

Yeah, pride has fallen on some financial hard times with the loss of their tv contract in Japan and all, but it's still capable of paying their fighters top MMA dollar. I mean, if you're a top level fighter, would you go to America to earn a buck or two more and deal with lamb-chop like competition and rest on your laurels, or go down to Japan where the best calibre fighters are and earn almost the same amount as you would in America?


I don't understand why UFC extremists are taking such pleasure in Pride's financial decline? Why are you so excited about the dreadful potential of a one organization monopoly? It'll only ruin the sport, man. There's absolutely nothing wrong with two, three, hell a dozen healthy organizations competing against one another, is there? Why do you have to root for one and hate the other? Just root for them both, man. Because at the end of the day, it's all MMA!

::shinji::
18-01-2007, 08:26:PM
I definitely agree with your last paragraph there.. I like Pride too and frankly I think Pride's less restrictive rules make for better overall MMA than UFC. ...and while I'm a big UFC fan too, there's a few signs that the UFC is heading in an unfortunate direction....and that is that there's way too much focus and promotion of the fighters that came from "The Ultimate Fighter" show, the vast majority of them are borring, crap fighters that would get dismatled against world-class opposition (Chris Leben vs. Anderson Silva anyone?). There's also this whole new crop of fans that are total MMA n00bs, but think they understand the sport because they watch the ultimate fighter on Spike TV..

Also, a lot of people are starting to speculate that Zuffa is trying to protect some of it's champs, especially Chuck Liddell since he's probably thier biggest money maker now. I think it'll be a long while before we see Liddell defend his title against someone that could really take his title (like CroCop or Rampage)

That being said, I'm happy to see CroCop and Rampage in UFC, for no reason other than the UFC was really needing a talent boost..

mika
18-01-2007, 09:35:PM
cro cop is a heavyweight he can't fight liddell

and I don't think rampage can do anything against chuck, cause he is more of a ground and pound type and not so much striker... he only beat him cause he took him to the ground but now liddell is too improved in his defence against take downs...

I saw the two fights rampage had against wanderlei and it wasn't even close, he got knocked out both times badly and fell out of the ring

so in conclusion they should make silva vs liddell very soon before liddell gets old and sh*tty... cause he is already pretty old

::shinji::
18-01-2007, 10:06:PM
Good luck on that happening anytime soon... Liddell and UFC president Dana White have been avoiding a fight with Silva for a while now. From what I've read their excuse is that Silva lost to CroCop so it would be a step back for Liddell, it's all bullsh!t. I'm telling ya, they wanna protect Liddell for as long as possible..

mika
18-01-2007, 10:54:PM
yea I know UFC is the one f*cking things up

bald c*nt dana

I read an interview with silva and he said that the pride president already gave the go for the fight but UFC is being a bitch

Yossarian
19-01-2007, 01:35:PM
I definitely agree with your last paragraph there.. I like Pride too and frankly I think Pride's less restrictive rules make for better overall MMA than UFC. ...and while I'm a big UFC fan too, there's a few signs that the UFC is heading in an unfortunate direction....and that is that there's way too much focus and promotion of the fighters that came from "The Ultimate Fighter" show, the vast majority of them are borring, crap fighters that would get dismatled against world-class opposition (Chris Leben vs. Anderson Silva anyone?). There's also this whole new crop of fans that are total MMA n00bs, but think they understand the sport because they watch the ultimate fighter on Spike TV..

Also, a lot of people are starting to speculate that Zuffa is trying to protect some of it's champs, especially Chuck Liddell since he's probably thier biggest money maker now. I think it'll be a long while before we see Liddell defend his title against someone that could really take his title (like CroCop or Rampage)

That being said, I'm happy to see CroCop and Rampage in UFC, for no reason other than the UFC was really needing a talent boost..


well put, bro.


cro cop is a heavyweight he can't fight liddell

and I don't think rampage can do anything against chuck, cause he is more of a ground and pound type and not so much striker... he only beat him cause he took him to the ground but now liddell is too improved in his defence against take downs...

I saw the two fights rampage had against wanderlei and it wasn't even close, he got knocked out both times badly and fell out of the ring

so in conclusion they should make silva vs liddell very soon before liddell gets old and sh*tty... cause he is already pretty old



-Liddell cuts 15-20 pounds to make it to 205 as it is right now. I don't see why he couldn't just fight at his walking weight against CroCop. You have to remember, man, Liddell is a pretty big LHW......his body frame is really deceiving.

-Liddell was brutalized with strikes in that fight, bro. I don't ever recall Rampage shooting for the takedown from a distance that was beyond an arm's length. He was beaten on his feet way before Rampage started going for the easy slams and started pounding the **** out of him.

::shinji::
19-01-2007, 02:23:PM
Have you guys heard the latest... seems that Randy Coture is coming out of retirment to likely fight Tim Sylvia in March :| ...I can't beleive they had to bring a guy out of retirment to fight Sylvia for the title, this really speaks for the UFC's lack of talent in the heavyweight division.

Yossarian
19-01-2007, 02:48:PM
Definitely, yeah. It will really discredit that division's credibility even more if Randy edges out the victory/makes easy work of Big Tim. And you know what, I think that he's more than capable of dethroning 'em.....maybe Dana is fed up with Tim's lacklustre performances and secretly wants Tim to be beaten?

::shinji::
19-01-2007, 03:15:PM
Well, Tim Sylvia is probably the most un-talented title holder ever in the UFC, IMO anyways... so yeah, I'd agree that Randy has a very good chance of taking the title. Anyways, a Cro Cop vs. Coture match could turn out really bad for Randy down the road though, especially at his age..

From what I've seen I really like that Brandon Vera kid that's up and coming, I think he's got something like an 8-0 record and looks like a real heavy hitter. I'd be shocked if he didn't get some higher profile fights soon..

mika
19-01-2007, 07:59:PM
yeah tim sylvia is a total c*nt

his fights are sh*t too, I hope randy owns him but he a big bitch thats the problem, it so hard to take him down or do anything

bigp
19-01-2007, 09:20:PM
Well, Tim Sylvia is probably the most un-talented title holder ever in the UFC, IMO anyways... so yeah, I'd agree that Randy has a very good chance of taking the title. Anyways, a Cro Cop vs. Coture match could turn out really bad for Randy down the road though, especially at his age..

From what I've seen I really like that Brandon Vera kid that's up and coming, I think he's got something like an 8-0 record and looks like a real heavy hitter. I'd be shocked if he didn't get some higher profile fights soon..


Brandon Vera wants big money from the UFC and only has 1 fight left on his contract. He probably would've gotten the fight against Sylvia if he signed a new contract.

And the Silva v Liddell didn't occur because Dana wanted Silva for 3 fights while Pride wouldn't let them do that. Now Pride's president is speaking about how he wants to work with the UFC now since they are struggling financially.

About the TUF shows. Most of the fighters are mediocre like Leben and Koscheck but some do show a lot of potential like Diego, Bisping, Rashad, Jardine. They could all be champs some day.

And Rampage himself wants 2 fights before fighting Liddell again. They need to build up fighters first, like what they did with Anderson Silva, by giving them 1 or 2 fights before sticking them into a title fight. Even BJ Penn had to fight GSP instead of getting an immediate title shot with Matt Hughes.

And talk about protecting champions. Look at Pride and their non title matches.

rony31
19-01-2007, 09:36:PM
I was at a bar once watching a Tim Sylvia title fight on PPV and actually fell asleep.. in the bar, with tons of people around me making noise. ya, it was that ******* boring.

::shinji::
20-01-2007, 04:48:PM
It seems that the going rumour right now is that the UFC has bought all, if not a portion of the Pride organization. Apparently it wouldn't change much as Pride would still operate independantly and with the same rules/format. If it's true then I guess this mean we can expect some cross organization super-cards from time to time. Close to being a monopoly but not quite, but for now I can see this as only positive for the fans as it would be great to see matches like Silva-Liddell, Sylvia-Mark Hunt, Sakuraba-GSP, etc, etc..


Anyhow, I'll beleive it when I see it. Right now it's nothing more than an internet rumour from people claiming to have "reliable sources"... (:/)

mika
21-01-2007, 04:09:AM
I don't give a f*ck what they do as long as I get to see Liddell vs Silva

I'm probably going to go to vegas for this match... watch it live... if it happens

I hope they do it around my bday time april... go to vegas, get laid, get wasted, and watch liddell vs silva live... yeah (H)

Phillip1
25-01-2007, 03:11:AM
I don't give a f*ck what they do as long as I get to see Liddell vs Silva

I'm probably going to go to vegas for this match... watch it live... if it happens

I hope they do it around my bday time april... go to vegas, get laid, get wasted, and watch liddell vs silva live... yeah (H)

What is the pricing for those tickets?

mika
28-01-2007, 07:57:AM
What is the pricing for those tickets?

what a dumb f*cking question... suck a dick

what's wrong phillip u can't say nothing back??? why not??? cause ur banned ahahhah (H)

Ubik Valis
05-02-2007, 04:56:AM
Haha, mika can only pwn n00bs that have been banned.

Yossarian
28-02-2007, 06:19:PM
****! Pride 33............wow. The card was ridiculously underwhelming when the fights were announced, but the action in the ring far exceeded my wildest expectations, man.


-triggs beating Misaki.....slight upset

-that last second stand-in boxer dude choking out wiuff.......NICE

-Sudoku boy shocking the world by KOing Lil' Nog.........wow......this dude was explosive from the start and just awesome

-Sakurai with another impressive showing......those punch/low kick combos were simply devastating, man

-Kharitonov's out of nowhere armbar.....nice......but up until then, he wasn't all that impressive, man

-Overeem......typical, just ******* typical, man. He starts out really well, even looking as though he's gonna win and then as soon as he's taken down, match is pretty much over, man. His cardio sucks, overall gameplanning sucks, ground game? NONEXISTENT! All the physical tools a fighter could be handed through his genetic foundation and yet he's always losing to the upper eschelon of fighters, man.....dumb ****er....anyway, excellent finish by Rua. That punch was ******* awesome!

-Diaz/Gomi.......what an all out war............WAR I tell yah! This match was a total sloppy slugfest and I enjoyed every minute of it, man. Diaz stood toe to toe with Gomi and ate some serious punches, but he recovered well enough to dole out some quality jabs aswell. At the end, Gomi was cardiowned no doubt, he showed heart, Diaz too, but because he came in better shape, he had the wherewithal to pull off a mother******* gogoplata so seemlessly after being taken down......WOW

-I've never seen Silva this hesitant and unassure about his standup. Henderson came in phenomenal shape both physically and mentally and he didn't just stand around looking for a takedown, he fought just as well on his feet as he did on the ground. From the first scuffle, you could tell that Henderson wasn't gonna get dominated............what an ASTOUNDING victory, man.....wow......just WOW!

wootbbq!

::shinji::
28-02-2007, 06:41:PM
for sure... Pride 33 was the best event I can remember seeing in a long, long time. I really hope Pride gets a new TV deal or gets bought by someone other than Zuffa because it would be a real shame if we missed out on more of this.

SO what do you think about this weekends UFC? I'm gonna watch it ofcourse but to be honest the main event is the only fight I'm really looking forward to on this card. The UFC cards seem so diluted these days, although the event planned for April in the UK looks like it will be a spectacular fight card.

EDIT: I wish I'd bet the farm on Lil'Nog getting KTFO. Unbeleivable...

mika
01-03-2007, 05:01:AM
yeah it was great

too bad the yankee won

wand wasn't himself... gay

Yossarian
01-03-2007, 02:25:PM
for sure... Pride 33 was the best event I can remember seeing in a long, long time. I really hope Pride gets a new TV deal or gets bought by someone other than Zuffa because it would be a real shame if we missed out on more of this.

SO what do you think about this weekends UFC? I'm gonna watch it ofcourse but to be honest the main event is the only fight I'm really looking forward to on this card. The UFC cards seem so diluted these days, although the event planned for April in the UK looks like it will be a spectacular fight card.

EDIT: I wish I'd bet the farm on Lil'Nog getting KTFO. Unbeleivable...

I know, eh? The odds were like +1400 on the Cameroonian warrior.....there's this rumour going around of some dude laying 10k on 'em (Snope better be all over this one)........I don't know where he got that kind of cap limit, because the most you could bet on it everywhere I looked was like 500 bucks, maybe less.

UFC 68? What is that? Honestly, I've been so absorbed in the aftermath of Pride 33 that I haven't had the chance to preview UFC's card this weekend......sheesh. Jesus, wasn't their last show just a couple of weeks ago?

Anyway, aside from the the main card, I'm really looking forward to the Hughes/Lytle match, and the Franklin/Macdonald one too.

::shinji::
01-03-2007, 04:08:PM
Actually I'd say McDonald is a good bet for an upset right there too..

Do you get The Fight Network at all Yoss? I'm just wondering if you've been following the development of EliteXC at all.. I watched their first event and it had it's flaws but I thought it was a good start overall. I really like their policy of open contracts for fighters, I doubt it but if UFC and Pride eventually went the same way then maybe we could see some of those dream match-ups we MMA fans always talk about..

Yossarian
01-03-2007, 04:35:PM
Definitely, yeah. They're run by a boxing promoter, so that concept of theirs where fighters are their own entities and can at any time challenge fighters from other companies is great for the sport overall imo.


Fighters (like in boxing) get a bigger pay day, and so do those who promote the event.

rony31
04-03-2007, 07:35:AM
JMac got dominated. and Sylvia got destroyed. thank you, Randy, seriously, with all my heart, thank you (Y)

::shinji::
04-03-2007, 02:05:PM
Haha, I thoroughly enjoyed watching Sylvia get completely dominated after f*ckin' Joe Rogan spent the night hyping the crap out of him!

I'm not so surprised that Randy won, I just can't beleive how easy it looked... somebody I was watching with said "this fight's gonna be over in the first 30 seconds" and while I was still laughing at him Randy floors Sylvia! So close..

Now, I'm actually fearing for Randy's life since he's inevitably gonna be put in the cage with Cro-Cop next.

Yossarian
04-03-2007, 06:45:PM
Looking forward to torrenting this one, man....

mika
04-03-2007, 07:51:PM
yes f*cking sylvia lost

he should retire fat f*cking idiot

::shinji::
13-03-2007, 03:27:PM
http://ufcjunkie.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/070309ufc70.jpg

It's Official: UFC 70 to air free on SpikeTV!

Not only is it free, but it just happens to be the best UFC fight card that I can remember. It is stacked from top to bottom and some potential upsets look likely..

Main card should look like this:

Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Assuerio Silva vs. Cheick Congo
Andre Arlovski vs. Fabricio Werdum
Michael Bisping vs. Elvis Sinosic
Ryoto Machida vs. Forrest Griffin

I'm picking Werum to beat Arlovski and Machida to beat Griffin as likely upsets. Although anyone who has followed MMA for a while knows that Werdum and Machida are top class fighters, so maybe upset is the wrong choice of word here. Looking forward to seeing Congo fight again too, always exiting.

Since it's gonna be live from the UK, it'll be at an odd time here in North America. Probably something like 4:00 pm Eastern..

Yossarian
13-03-2007, 04:22:PM
You think that Werdum is an underdog to Arlovski, bro? I realize that his standup needs considerable (getting that taken care of since he's been in CroCop's camp for the past year and a halfnow) improvement, but if he takes this to the ground, it's pretty much gonna be over imo.

I only recently found out that he switched to the UFC....wow. He was a top ten in Pride and a top 5-3 now in the UFC.

::shinji::
13-03-2007, 04:39:PM
Yeah, that's kinda why I backtracked a little there... I guess it could be considered an upset if only because of Arlovski's "star" staus in the UFC and Werdum being a newcomer... but yeah, definitely not based on skill, you're right.

I'm looking forward to watching Machida's progress in the UFC, I definitely think he has what it takes to beat a Chuck Liddell or Rampage somewhere down the line. I was actually a little shocked that he didn't make it onto the main card in his UFC debut especially since he has wins over Rich Franklin and Stephan Bonnar in his past..

Yossarian
13-03-2007, 05:33:PM
cool. Yeah, I don't know two ****s about Machida to be honest but he certainly does intrigue me. Tell me, is he half-Japanese or something?

::shinji::
13-03-2007, 06:42:PM
Yeah, I beleive he has some Japanese roots..

He's one of those guys who has everything exept for the hype, maybe things will change but he's one of those guys that has spent his career under the radar despite some impressive wins on his resume. I also like the fact that he's kinda remained true to his martial art, he still claims his main weapons are pure karate (I love this being a big K-1 fan too) despite having some BJJ training also. I dunno if you've seen this footage yet, but watch what he did to one of Dana White's poster boys a few years ago..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuyDlSujlic

Yossarian
13-03-2007, 07:01:PM
thnx for that link, man. He's built like a tank a la Filho and his striking game seems very developed....I like that.

About that KO of Franklin, just before they engage and he catches Ace with the Knee, is there a headbutt in there somewhere that staggers Rich a little do you think? Or is it the short jab? Because he seems already dazed before he's hit with the knee.

mika
13-03-2007, 07:55:PM
I think arlovski will probably catch him with a right

he has great stand up

it will be a good fight... cause both are good

::shinji::
15-03-2007, 09:14:PM
Bah, Forrest Griffin's been taken off the UFC 70 fight card due to illness..

He's been replaced with David Heath. Might still be a good match as Heath's a heavy-hitter, and he'll also be defending an unblemished record..

bigp
20-03-2007, 06:25:AM
HUGE Rumours of UFC officially buying Pride.

Fedor vs Crocop 2 anyone?

::shinji::
20-03-2007, 01:59:PM
Yeah, I've been hearing that rumour a lot lately too, and from actual credible sources this time! I guess there's supposed to be a big announcment tomorrow and there's a lot of speculation that's the big news..

I don't know what to think right now, can't say if I'll be happy about it or not. Monopolies are bad, but as a fan I can't help but get exited at the thought of seeing Wanderlei, Hunt, Fedor, etc in the UFC octagon. We'll have to wait and see..

::shinji::
28-03-2007, 12:19:AM
Sooooo, did everybody hear the BIG news?



It’s Official: PRIDE Fighting Championships Sold

It’s official: Japanese-based PRIDE Fighting Championships has been sold to Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta, owners of Zuffa LLC (the UFC’s parent company). The organization will be operated under the direction of Zuffa.

Effective April 8 (PRIDE’s next show), Dream Stage Entertainment and PRIDE CEO Nobuyuki Sakakibara will resign.

The Fertittas, with UFC president Dana White and matchmaker Joe Silva, made the announcement today at Tokyo’s Roppongi Hills Arena.

Lorenzo Fertitta promised that MMA fans will see the fights everyone wants, essentially promising that cross-promotion fights between UFC and PRIDE fighters will happen.

As previous reports stated, the purchase price for the fight organization was in the $65 million range. The company took a financial hit when Fuji Television Inc. dropped PRIDE from its broadcast schedule. (Tabloid news reported that PRIDE had connections to the Japanese mob, and though PRIDE denied the accusation, the damage was done.)

Well folks, this appears to be great news for UFC fans for no other reason that the promise of superfights between the UFC’s and PRIDE’s top stars.

Additionally, PRIDE fans should take solace in knowing the Fertittas have pledged to pump more money into the organization so that it can continue to grow internationally.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Also, it appears that Brandon Vera will stay with the UFC after all.. This is great news as I'm a big fan of his and think he's got a great future in MMA.

Elber2k3
01-04-2007, 12:19:AM
Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Assuerio Silva vs. Cheick Congo
Andre Arlovski vs. Fabricio Werdum
Michael Bisping vs. Elvis Sinosic
Ryoto Machida vs. Forrest Griffin


I want to see this, just to see Cro Cop. That guy is amazing. I'm also intrerested in the Arlowski - Werdum bout.

::shinji::
06-04-2007, 02:20:PM
Im gonna laugh my ass off if Sinosic beats Bisping... this match is clearly a case of the UFC trying to feed Bisping a tomato can in front of his own fans. 6 years ago Sinosic might have had a chance, but I dunno, he does have some submission skills so who knows..

http://cache.indemand.com/shared/prod/61477_l.jpg

btw, UFC 69 is tomorrow and is anyone even pumped for it? GSP-Serra is such an anti-climax of a main event but you never know (still feel GSP deserved a true contender for an opponent). Sanchez-Koscheck should be a war, and I sincerely hope Kos gets owned... I don't care if Joe Rogan likes to talk about how much he's improved his stand-up and submissions, he's still borring-as-f*ck IMO. Okami-Swick should be entertaining too...but overall it's a pretty so-so card for a PPV.

Hans
07-04-2007, 10:00:PM
Hey, just noticed this thread. Man I am a great MMA and UFC fights too, but then again it's not aired here anymore since the censor said it was "TOO VIOLENT" :(

Anybody still remember Sakuraba from Japan ? Is he still active ? His fight against Royce Gracie was an epic one dude.

::shinji::
07-04-2007, 10:55:PM
Yeah, Sakuraba is still around. He's fighting with K-1 HERO'S these days..

He had A LOT of great matches in his career, he was the winner of some epic battles and also on the receiving end of some of the worst beatdowns ever in MMA (his first match against Wanderlei Silva comes to mind)

bigp
09-04-2007, 02:10:AM
GSP:nape:

::shinji::
09-04-2007, 03:16:AM
yeah, I'm still in shock.. (:/)

::shinji::
22-04-2007, 01:16:PM
Oh sh!t, Cro-Cop got K.T.F.O! ..if you guys haven't seen it, I suggest you download Cro-Cop vs. Gonzaga somewhere. Argueably the most brutal KO ever in MMA.. :eek:

Yossarian
22-04-2007, 01:44:PM
NO ******* WAY? You takin the piss, moite? I gave up on this sport after that revolting purchase by Zuffa of Pride..........WOW........worst than lil nog, wand's and Arona's Ko's put together would you say?


MAN, I'VE GOTTA SEE THIS!!!

::shinji::
22-04-2007, 01:48:PM
let me put it this way dude.. I realize these guys are conditioned atheletes and generally tough as nails, but I was actually concerned for Mirko's personal well-being for a minute after it actually happened. ...and it wasn't just the KO itself, it was the sound it made and how he fell.

I'll have a look around to see if anyone's uploaded it yet, I got a feeling it's gonna be a highly watched replay.

Yossarian
22-04-2007, 01:53:PM
sheesh.........like an axe hitting a giant watermelon, eh? Sorta shot that shaves off a good 3yrs off one's career (life)?


There goes his ******* mystique in regards to the US market.......

::shinji::
22-04-2007, 01:53:PM
here's a youtube link...watch it before Zuffa has it taken down. All I can say is Couture is gonna have a rough time with Gonzaga, this guy is one bad-ass dude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmFAdtrUUMw

Yossarian
22-04-2007, 01:58:PM
you're goot, bro, you're GOOOT

Yossarian
22-04-2007, 02:00:PM
LOL@ Cro not initially acknowledging Gonzaga's touching of the gloves...


woot!

Yossarian
22-04-2007, 02:15:PM
HOLY****! Boy was that heinous. That girly named dude connected with 100% accuracy and power........Negro Dynamism at its most viciousness imo....wow.....wow. Structural damage to the neck....rrr think? Don't mean to be an internet doc here, but.....ruptured eardrum? Serious neck sprain/concussion?

Boy was that brutal.....woof!

Ubik Valis
22-04-2007, 02:29:PM
Ouch :(......mamu mu jebem brazilijansku :(

Yossarian
22-04-2007, 02:57:PM
yeah, bro. My condolences goes out to all the Croats out there who experienced some of that brain retardation inducing head shot along with their compatriot.

bigp
22-04-2007, 07:02:PM
I'm surprised Crocop was able to walk after the match with they way his leg twisted when he fell. Look at Herb Dean cover his eyes just before he straighten his leg out.


With the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if this is the year Fedor loses.

Ubik Valis
22-04-2007, 08:39:PM
Holy sh!t, I didn't even notice the thing with Mirko's leg during his falling down....extra-ouch. (:/)

::shinji::
22-04-2007, 08:57:PM
speaking of the Zuffa/Pride deal.. apparently Zuffa has stated that they will do away with Pride's so-called "freak show" matches. Personally I'm a little dissapointed, they were always a bit of a guilty pleasure for me..



I'm gonna miss those Butterbean vs. Zuluzinho type fights :( (http://www.dailymotion.com/search/zuluzinho/video/x1nopx_eric-butterbean-vs-zuluzinho-pride)

Yossarian
04-05-2007, 11:07:AM
SHINJI! You looking forward to the ODLH/Mayweather extravaganza??? Oh man, I've been prepping myself for it for the past couple of months, lurking in boxing forums, reading up on blogs and ****......CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S FINALLY HERE!!!!

They're saying that this could very well possibly be the biggest live gate/ppv draw ever....can you believe that? For two Welterweights??? I realize that this involves the Golden Boy of the Mexican folk in their biggest holiday against one of the best, most technically sound and gifted fighters ever, but CMON.....they ain't no heavyweights.

Anyway, my dick is dribling with excitement for this, bro.

Ubik Valis
04-05-2007, 11:13:AM
I'm gonna miss those Butterbean vs. Zuluzinho type fights :( (http://www.dailymotion.com/search/zuluzinho/video/x1nopx_eric-butterbean-vs-zuluzinho-pride)



Haha, those are some big boys. :D

Yossarian
04-05-2007, 11:45:AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FYQyrpyfl3U


Nothing gets me pumped up more than that HBO boxing intro....especially the guitar based one




http://youtube.com/watch?v=7Bfv95ZEtuk&mode=related&search=


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tgf1TKckhpw

::shinji::
04-05-2007, 12:02:PM
oh yeah, I'm pumped for DLH - Mayweather for sure! I can't remember the last time I was looking forward to a boxing match this much, maybe not since Tyson-Holyfield!

Yossarian
04-05-2007, 02:39:PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvwO_v3DYk

RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON!!!!

PBF epitomizes Negro Dynamism to the fullest.

Yossarian
04-05-2007, 04:26:PM
the nosebleeds are selling for 150 retail for this one.....sheesh. God only knows how much they're going for on the streets.

::shinji::
28-05-2007, 05:10:PM
Now let's watch Dana ruin 'Page by ridiculously overhyping and exposin' 'em.

Hmm I dunno man, it's hard to predict what Dana's plans with Rampage will be. The UFC has a habit of trying to promote the (white) all-American poster boy types like Rich Franklin and Matt Hughes, and judging by all the boo's that Rampage seems to get from the US crowds I dunno if he's exactly who Dana wants to see as champ. I know it seems stupid to you and me since Jackson is an amazing fighter and marketable as hell, but this new gen of TUF fans is weird, so who knows.. I find it a little odd that all of a sudden Dan Henderson is 'Page's next title defence too.

I dunno if you've been keeping up on the rumours lately, but if you remember way back when the UFC/Pride deal was announced they assured us that Pride would continue to opporate as is, even under Zuffa ownership? Well, the latest news is that Dana is currently working on how to handle Pride's future and that an announcment will be made in the next couple weeks. Personally, my gut feeling is that the writing is on the wall and we've seen the last of Pride. Especially with big Nog, Henderson, Werdum, and Shogun, all recently being contracted by Zuffa....

It's sad to see Pride go, but I think I'd rather see it put out of it's misery than watch it go on as a shadow of what it once was, with all it's stars removed. It's too bad though, I been buying up some Pride DVD's (the Bushido tourneys are God's gift to MMA!) lately and the quality of the MMA combined with the overall entertainment value is second to none.

Keeping my fingers crossed that K-1 HERO'S steps in to fill the PrideFC void if it comes down to that.. sucks we get no SHOOTO coverage here in North America. I been trying to keep up on ICON Sport lately too out of Hawaii, they're one of the few MMA promotions left outside of Japan/Korea that still use full PrideFC based rules...which IMO were always superior to the UFC ruleset.

LOL@ Jardine's clownish stance....you're begging for brutal assrape with that ******* easily exploitable posture, man.

Yeah I have no idea what that monkey sh!t was that he was doing.. can't say I was tooooo surprised though to see him owned as I think the vast majority of the guys out of TUF are just over-hyped B-level fighters minus a couple exeptions. I was just surprised that it happened in such brutal fashion, and that it came from a newcomer. Apparently Jardine talked some sh!t before the fight too, saying that he deserved to be fighting a contender and not a lower calibre fighter making his debut.

Man, Alexander landed a couple vicious Mortal Kombat-like uppercuts. I don;t think I've ever seen anyone's feet actually get lifted off the ground from that outside of a video game. Watching Alexander fight really reminded me of the early UFC's especially with his relentless onslaught, it kinda made me think of a younger Tank Abbott and what he used to do back in the day.

Yossarian
28-05-2007, 05:31:PM
^^hurhurhur......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWZ-IyC27xo

I was thinking the exact same thing too, bro.

regarding Rampage's marketability.....hmm....excellent points there, man. I didn't even put into context as far as the UFC and the way it promotes its product and personnel. I just automatically assumed foolishly that he'd instantly become the posterboy of the company after dethroning the organization's long time golden boy in such a wicked fashion with that huge mainstream media coverage and all.

I'm perfectly comfortable with Rampage maintaining his heel like persona and not being made into a media circus clown who's pumped up and over publicized to the point of being annoying and nauseating.

yoyo913
15-11-2007, 07:01:PM
This thread really needs to be bumped, any new UFC fans emerge?

I've been watching some fights here and there on Spike TV. I've been watching (downloading) all the UFC events since 73: stacked, which has remained my favorite so far. I've also been watching every episode so far of The Ultimate Fighter 6.


The next fight card at UFC 78 is brutal, the main event - Evans vs Bisping sucks, I am not a big Bisping fan, but I am looking forward to seeing Parysian again, and Houston Alexander's fights are always exciting (knock outs).

Yossarian
20-11-2007, 03:13:PM
STFU, TUF noob!

yoyo913
20-11-2007, 07:19:PM
I'll admit I watch that for reality show purposes, real UFC card fights are waaay better.

BTW the last UFC (78) really sucked. I'm glad to see Houston Alexandre finally be tested, but other than that it was long boring wrestling fights.

Yossarian
21-11-2007, 01:13:AM
^^hurhurhur....I hope you took that line in jest, bro, because i didn't mean anything by it. It's just a rude introduction for all MMA fans who are perceived to have latched onto the show after being exposed to the Ultimate Fighter.


I didn't get to see 78, and to be honest, I haven't watched much MMA in full-length ever since Pride was swallowed up, but I have been checking into TUF from time to time.

Who's your favorite fighter from the show? Don't say Mac, or I swear I'll cut you, man.

yoyo913
21-11-2007, 05:14:AM
Well I first got into UFC through the 1hr fight show they had on Spike, then go into TUF, its the other way around. Are you one of the Sherdogers?

Favorite from the show is in this order

Dan (crazy Barrera) - I like his relentless work ethic
George - I like his confidence, serious attitude and skill
Mac - He's one of the cooler guys on the show. No problem with his views on food/animals. And I believe the camera just focused on him alot and he had a problem with non-serious fighters which I agree with.

Most of the rest are jokes. Pussies.

The coaches are douches pretty much (like Serra more), I downloaded TUF5 to see it again and Penn/Pulver were awesome. Many more cool fighters in there too. This season is pretty lame.

Yossarian
23-11-2007, 01:47:AM
1)Cool, bro, cool. I haven't been an active member of Sherdog for quite a while now, maybe like 2-3yrs. It just became a ******* hassle and over-run with intolerable ****heads after a while, but it's still alright to a degree, I suppose. I tune into the radio broadcasts whenever it comes to my mind or when some huge fight has occurred.

2) I pretty much agree with your sentiments and assessment of the series/fighters. I think that I'm only up to ep 6, or 7...maybe 8??...I can't remember. I'll try to make the time for the other two (10 being the last?) this weekend so that I can be fully caught up with the show.

peep this....


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3637z_prides-passing




You seem very enthusiastic about the sport of MMA, so I'm gonna recommend to you (maybe you already know about it, my bad if that's the case) one of my favorite sites in all of internetdom......http://genghiscon.wordpress.com/


As the name suggests, it's by a dude who calls himself GenghisCon (clever?) Anyway, this ****er probably makes the best compilations of anyone or any sport that I've ever come across, man. I don't know if he's a professional, but his work is just masterful. You could despise the sport and still be enthralled and captivated by his pieces, man. And also, it's an excellent way to familiarize yourself with the sport's not to distant past if you're just getting into it, you know?

Anyway, give those links a peep, bro.

oh btw, if you can get a hold of this doc.........http://www.docurama.com/productdetail.html?productid=NV-NVG-5606-NVG-9544, do it, bro.

yoyo913
23-11-2007, 07:03:AM
nice post yoss, i'm definitly going to check out that ghenghis con website, it seems packed with good videos.

yeah I'm really into it, its debatebly my favorite sport... i'm signing up for boxing soon too at my local gym (already doing cardio and weight training for a year).

Do you have any favorite fighters? I like Sean Seark just because of his massive work ethic, he's the best at muscle AND cardio which is a rare combination, I watched him training on a show and he's insane... you should download it via torrent. Apparently he takes steroids tho, and I think he's temporarly banned. I also like Houston Alexander (altough he is pretty new) for his awesome stand up. Nick Diaz and Diego Sanchez are pretty good. I only recently saw videos of Fedor and he's amazing (but everyone hypes him up so much). Oh and I forgot the best I've seen, Anderson Silva, just pure negro dynatism as you say. Skinny ****ed but has the most accurate knees I've ever seen... straight to the head. Great accuracy in his strikes too. His 2 Franklin fights were really entertaining and a demolition.

Sherdog is alright, it contains alot of dumbasses but I full whole-heartly accept that on the internet these days. I think its due to the many posts/minute.

::shinji::
23-11-2007, 04:45:PM
I hate Sherk and all fighters like him... you know, the roided up mid-western American wrestler who's borring as f*ck to watch.

I like Houston Alexander too, but I wouldn't say he's got great stand-up at all, just a lot of overwhelming power. The first time I ever saw him fight in his UFC debut he totally reminded me of the early days of MMA. He fights kinda like how Tank Abbott used to when he was younger, just relentless all-out power. Too bad Alexander's non-existant ground game was exposed recently, I had high hopes for him but after his last fight I came to the realization that he would probably be killed by guys like Wanderlei and Shogun. Not to mention the fact that even someone like Tito Ortiz would be able to hold him down with ease.

Anderson Silva's one of my faves too, the guy is a walking highlight reel. Not only does he KO motherf*ckers, but always does it in spectacular style. Look for a video of Anderson Silva vs. Tony Fryklund from a Cage Rage show, he KO's him with a really weird elbow strike. Another guy you should check out is Cung Le from the Strikeforce org, he's got some insane stand-up too.

I stopped posting at Sherdog too like 2 years ago, it's still a good spot to go for MMA news and rumours. I just kinda lurk there now. MMAjunkie.com and MMAweekly.com are always good for the latest news too.


On another note, the UFC has signed Thierry Rameau Sokoujou! ..and he's shceduled to fight Machida at UFC 79! It's such an intrigueing match on paper, can't wait to see it.


EDIT: I almost forgot, this is probably my fave MMA site out there right now. TONS of videos there, basically you just have to click on a fighter on the right and you'll get at least a couple of his fights to watch. http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/

enjoy..

Yossarian
23-11-2007, 05:07:PM
It's cool that you're taking up Boxing, bro, because it's an awesome discipline from which to start off with and then branch out of. It's ******* intense cardio-wise, and you'll start to sprout some muscle in places that you'd never imagine. You'll really do well and find it fun if you don't go in there with any ulterior motives other than just learning how to strike (trying to learn some moves to beat up some dude who's been hasslin' you, or to impress the bitches with your moves and **** would be silly and counterintuitive) Just go int there with a blank slate and no ego, bro, and learn.

Anyway. As far as favorite fighters go...hmm....****. Well, I don't know if I have a fixed top 5/10 or whatever, but I'll try to list some of 'em.

Bas Rutten- calling 'em a ******* legend would be an absolute understatement, man. Bas was a ******* menacing God in his day. One of the most punishing (if you're impressed with Silva's standup, check out Bas) fighters to ever enter the ring, man. He was versatile, he was intelligent and most of all, he was entertaining and highly charismatic. They don't come any tougher than Bas, man.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UuC6Wj6ewiY



Sakuraba-another legend....the 'Gracie Killer" as he's known, for his famous and epic bouts with the Gracie clan. I love his demeanor, his all around skill both on the ground and standing up, and also his heart. Pride wasted this poor bastard and almost killed 'em by feeding him to guys a weight class or two bigger than him, but he never backed down from any fight or ducked anyone. The ****er just has no quit in 'em, he epitomizes the Bushido Code to the fullest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V84_6McLQ3Y

^^ definitive example of Saku's never-say-die spirit...I hope that he calls it quits soon, though.


Genki Sudo- one of the funniest, most entertaining and amiable humans around, man. Aside from his renowned and elaborate entrances and heartfelt banner of the world that reads "We are all one", he's a very imaginative and flair-filled fighter. He could be phenomenally text-book on the ground, but he just laid it out there in the ring with his improvisational sense and combined so many disciplines effortlessly. He's like a Ronaldinho out there with his style and flash, man. It saddens me greatly that he's chosen to retire, man, because I really, really love 'em.


http://www.livevideo.com/media/playvideo_fs.aspx?fs=1&cid=48645101330946CB92636C184961F238


^^ That vid always chokes (NO HOMO) me up, man.


So, those are probably my three favorite fighters of all time, but Big Nog (another legend with a heart of a lion), Frank Shamrock, Igor Vochanchyn, Mark Hunt, Overeem (looks like a character straight out of Street Fighter), and Gilbert 'Nofriendtotheref" Yvel are all fighters that I really love.


Oh yeah, Ricardo Arona and Shogun aswell......if you want to see someone who gave Fedor all that he could handle, someone who made him look almost human, then try to 'tube his fight with Arona. The fight was a long time ago when they were just starting out and the rules were different and restricting, but it's still a wicked match.....and trust me, Fedor is worthy of all the hype that he receives.


Ever since Pride was bought out, a ton of material on the net has been removed, but if you search hard enough, you'll still find a lot of gold **** that'll help you become more intimate with the sport, bro.

Yossarian
23-11-2007, 05:18:PM
EDIT: I almost forgot, this is probably my fave MMA site out there right now. TONS of videos there, basically you just have to click on a fighter on the right and you'll get at least a couple of his fights to watch. http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/

enjoy..


well, well. It looks like the increase in activity in the MMA thread has gotten Shinji out of his cocoon and lurking status...hurhur.

Good to have you back posting regularly (i hope), and thnx for that site, it's a ******* treasure trove of material, bro.

::shinji::
23-11-2007, 05:18:PM
Ahh a true PRIDE fan in the house! I swear your favourite fighters list is pretty much identical to mine with maybe an exeption or two.. Bas, Sak, Sudo...man, I could watch those guys all day, every day. Legends..

If I had to make a list of faves, in no order here I'd have to include:

Takanori Gomi
Anderson Silva
Joachim Hansen
Mark Hunt
Wanderlei Silva
Shogun
Akihiro Gono
Big Nog
Cro Cop
both Emilianenko's

sh!t I used to even love guys like Gary Goodridge and Heath Herring!

I like a lot of K-1 guys too... Mighty Mo, Kaoklai, Massato, LeBanner..

Yossarian
23-11-2007, 06:04:PM
nice list, bro. Lebanner....whenever I try to imagine what a Legionnaire might really be like, he's the first thing that pops into my head, man. What a devastatingly destructive war machine....that left....WOOF! His left could trigger earthquakes, this I'm sure of. I didn't enjoy watchin' 'em KO Hoost, though, as Hoost is also one of my favs.

Good pickin' with Gono and Gomi, bro. Gono is a masterful submission artist so I don't know if the UFC is gonna handle him with the care and sensitivity necessary to make him a star over here. They really need to build him up to the general fan because relegating him to just the Prelims will be an absolute travesty. Also, let the ****er wear his technicolor pants, man....wtf? All these NSAC rules, man....they're just dumb.

Gomi is atypical to your standard Asian fighter, eh? The dude is out of this world cocky. He's got a snarl and a swagger to 'em, and you know what, most of the time, he backs it up. The kid is a true brawler, man. I really love his tenacity and ferociousness....a true badass!

::shinji::
23-11-2007, 09:41:PM
Yeah I have to admit, I'm not expecting much from the UFC on their handling/marketing of Gono. It just doesn't seem like they have much interest in promoting Asian fighters, I just don't think the American audience really gets the showmanship of a guy like Gono. Even the couple times Sudo fought in the UFC, it seemed like his grand entrances and unorthodox style went unapprieciated.

I even read a rumour recently that they had offered Jon Fitch a fight with Gono which apparently Fitch's people declined, saying that they preffered a fight with Karo I think it was. I kinda interpret this as the UFC not thinking highly of Gono and already wanting to "feed" him to a contender. I dunno, I'm just speculating here..

Yeah, about Gomi... if you don't already own the Pride Bushido 9 DVD set, I highly recommend it! Some amazing fights on those discs and you definitely see Gomi at his best. I really think the UFC made a big mistake not even trying to sign Gomi, he'd be the guy American audiences would love to hate, yet they wouldn't be able to resist watching him fight. Apparently Dana White was even quoted at a press conference saying something like "We don't need Gomi, nobody knows who the f*ck he is" ...it's a shame man, I only hope he signs with K-1, EliteXC or something so we can see him fight again soon.

btw, you happen to catch Kimbo's MMA debut? haha what a farce, but I admit it.. I'm counting the minutes till his next bout!

EDIT: dunno if you guys got The Fight Network, but don't forget on Dec. 8 they're showing the 2007 K-1 World Grand Prix live, all the big names are gonna be there. Should be a hell of a tourney!

yoyo913
23-11-2007, 10:12:PM
yeah I got the Fight Networ, I'll check it out

those are some old school fighters you guys listed there, shame I don't know much about them. I know Bas from an amazing highlight reel and that video of him teaching self defense (H).

::shinji::
23-11-2007, 10:29:PM
Speaking of highlight reels, you just reminded me I had one saved here that you guys have gotta see... this is what PRIDE FC was all about! *tear* (yes, at Sherdog I was often labelled a "Pride nuthugger", haha)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x34beh_a-tribute_extreme

Man, Fedor has gotta have the most devastating G n' P ever, there's just no surviving it.

Yossarian
24-11-2007, 06:52:PM
Indeed. As much as I despise some of the way the UFC handles its fighters and events, my gripes and complaints don't really mean **** if they continue to make money hand over fist as they're currently doing. Their dominance of the North American MMA scene is akin to that of the NFL's over other sports, man. This is why I really hope that K1-Heroes, or some other type of outfit starst making a stronger push in this market soon, or aleast develops something remotely akin to Pride back in Japan, man, because you're gonna start seeing a lot more fighters being marginalized, misused or even being completely ostracized. These bantam organizations that are currently operating don't impress me much both interms of roster and financial backing. I hope that they unite, or do something to put forth a respectable challenge against the UFC's strangle-hold on the industry, man.



Yeah, I don't own Bushido 9, or any MMA DVD for that matter, but I have seen it. That tournament was stacked from top to bottom and lived up to its hype, man. It's arguably the greatest (well, except for the open weights and Grand Prix 2000, I suppose) MMA event. It just sucked that Filho got injured. I don't know how that ****er made weight anyway, since I hear that his normal everyday weight is like 200, or slightly over. The Hansen/Yves fight was an epic match. Btw, where the **** is Yves these days? Another misused fighter of immense talent, man. Anyway, yeah, bro. All the Bushido tourneys are worth purchasing from my recollection.


thnx for the headsup, man. The Badr/Remy fight looks very intriguing. I'm surprised that Manhoef isn't repping. Is he solely concentrating on his MMA career now?

one more thing....nice link. It's much more celebratory and electrifying than the one I shared. That other tribute vid is more sombre and emotional....both awesome in their own right, though.



yeah I got the Fight Networ, I'll check it out

those are some old school fighters you guys listed there, shame I don't know much about them. I know Bas from an amazing highlight reel and that video of him teaching self defense (H).


heh....nah. Most of them are still currently in the game fighting, bro. Just peep the links and you'll be well on your way to being caught up.

Yossarian
01-12-2007, 07:24:PM
Hey, I forgot to respond to your Kimbo comment. I did see that fight, and as you've so aptly put it, it was a complete and utter farce. But I can't really blame EliteXC. They're just trying to milk this street fighting legend for all that he's worth, so they've gotta feed 'em a few jobbers before they put 'em up against legitimate fighters.

::shinji::
07-12-2007, 02:01:PM
http://www.thefightnetwork.com/k1banner.jpg

Saturday, 4:00 pm, The Fight Network. Does LeBanner look ripped or what, I think this might be his year... although, I would not complain over a Semmy-Techno Goliath match in the semis!

Apparently, Mighty Mo is also fighting in one of the reserve matches (hopefully it gets televised). The biggest, most devastating right-hand in all fight sports...I think yes.

http://www.k-1.co.jp/k-1gp/images/fighter/mighty_mo.jpg

I've just recently read that Mighty Mo's also scheduled to fight Kharitonov at the K-1 HERO's show on New Years Eve! The fight's gonna be under HERO's MMA rules too, should be a slugfest like no other.

Yossarian
07-12-2007, 05:00:PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxI0eQlI5zQ


Shame that Melvin isn't participating in this one.


Do you know what knocked 'em down in that clip? Pretty weird ****, man.

::shinji::
07-12-2007, 05:43:PM
I think Melvin's committed to the HERO's show on new years, although an opponent hasn't been named as far as I know.. yeah, that was a weird knock-down, in slo-mo it almost looked like Sefo's elbow caught him in the top of the head on one of those last couple punches.

I just love those Japanese ring announcers, no matter who they're introducing it always sounds like "HHHEEEYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHH AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"

Yossarian
07-12-2007, 05:53:PM
^^hurhur....too true! They must be paying a tribute to the Japanese God of the Scream, or something. Either way, it's ******* hilarious and electrifying, man.

anyway, regarding the Sefo knockout win...yeah, it doesn't look like a Kosher strike, most likely accidental, but nonetheless, it looks like a foul of some sort. See how he goes up to 'em in an apologetic wmanner after he's deemed the victor?

yoyo913
10-12-2007, 05:16:AM
Anyone watch TUF 6 Finale?

I'm glad Danzig won, I really like the guy, he deserved it. I knew he wasn't going to let Tommy get into a rhythm and grow in confidence, I knew he was going to go for a submission quick.

War Machine vs J-Roc was an awesome battle, both strong muscular and about the same size, it was back and forward and the ending just kicked ass.

Huerta and Guida was the best fight of the night. I was waiting for Huerta to be knocked out in the 3rd round but Huerta had huge winning spirit and ended up winning. Guida is a beast and Huerta is a champion.

::shinji::
10-12-2007, 03:56:PM
Yeah it was an awesome night overall, I've always been a bit skeptical about TUF but this event was a hell of a lot more entertaining than the last UFC pay-per-view, that's for sure. I thought all the matches were really good exept for Saunders-Barrera, but that's mostly because Barrera fights like a wet blanket (I doubt we'll ever see him again).

I had a feeling Huerta-Guida was gonna be something special, those guys have always brought it into the cage. The lightweight division is so incredibly stacked right now it's ridiculous, and Danzig's dropping to 155 too so that should be interesting. With Sherk stripped of the title I'm gonna go ahead and assume that BJ Penn (don't think Stevenson has enough to beat him) will be champ in January... BJ vs. Huerta for the title in April/May?


I tuned into the Hatton-Mayweather fight during the 5th round as soon as the Huerta-Guida war was over, and meh is all I can say... I've been a long time boxing fan, but there's no way it can compete with MMA in terms of exitiment these days. Every round until the lacklustre KO was punch,punch,hold...repeat at nausea, a total snorefest IMO :(

Now that's more like it!:

http://www.mmagifs.com/albums/userpics/10001/guida_huerta.gif http://www.mmagifs.com/albums/userpics/10001/guida_huerta2.gif

yoyo913
10-12-2007, 07:23:PM
I actually predict Stevenson to beat Penn because of his amazing endurance and strength. He has really good submission skill/defence too which is the reason I'm going to give him a win over Penn.

::shinji::
10-12-2007, 09:00:PM
well, you never know in MMA, but I just think BJ Penn is on another level.. he's also got a world of experience and has faced a lot tougher guys in his career over the years than Stevenson.

I dunno though, my predictions have been WAY off this year and Stevenson's definitely a good fighter. Should be a great match, and anything's better than having to watch Sherk lay on a guy for 5 rounds :|

Yossarian
16-12-2007, 03:41:PM
This was probably one of the better UFN events that I've ever watched. I didn't know ****all about Huerta and Guida, but Shinji claimed that it had the potential of being a fight of the year, so that got me extremely amped, man. It was just awesome to see a fight not only live up to its hype, but maybe even surpass it. The onslaught and devastation that they heaped upon one another for the entirety of the match was just jaw-droppingly unbelievable, man. I couldn't control myself from the sheer delight I was experiencing watching that epic scrap....**** had me salivating, man. There aren't many as ferocious and lively as Guida, eh? Imo, he had that fight won up until that last rnd where his recklessness and gungho approach led em into eating one too many knees and high kicks. There was never a momentary drop in the action, man. Whether they were on the ground or standing, it was just a pornographic display of what MMA is all about. It's one of those matches that you use as your exemplar when trying to convert lukewarm fans of the sport fully, man,


btw, Shinji, were you wacking off to Danzig as he was pummelling the **** out of that "roided up mid-western American wrestler who's borring" prototype? hurhurhur.....all I had in my head as I was watching that fight is you strokin it uncontrollably as that kid was getting owned.

Anyway, I'm happy for Mac.

Yossarian
16-12-2007, 04:47:PM
I tuned into the Hatton-Mayweather fight during the 5th round as soon as the Huerta-Guida war was over, and meh is all I can say... I've been a long time boxing fan, but there's no way it can compete with MMA in terms of exitiment these days. Every round until the lacklustre KO was punch,punch,hold...repeat at nausea, a total snorefest IMO :(

Now that's more like it!:

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hmm....it's too bad you feel that way, bro, because I thought it was one of the better bouts this year. The early goings were frustrating, but as the fight progressed and the ref backed off some, it became a really exciting match. My buddies and I made a total event of the entire day, pretty much dedicating our entire afternoon and evening to this bout. We watched the 24/7 documentary, so that got us really enthralled and intuned to the fight and by the time the event got underway, we were already overdosing on adrenaline, man.


It's really unfair to make derisive judgments about a fight when you only saw half of it and then compare it to an epic MMA match such as the Huerta/Guida one when that match would pretty much put any sporting event to shame interms of excitement and nonstop action, you know? That fight is one for the ages, whereas the Hatton/PBF bout was just a really good match that many didn't expect it to be. Floyd's game, as we all know it, is about being mentally more sharper than his opponent and reacting to their mistakes and deficiencies. He's not gonna brawl with you recklessly and expend unnecessary energy. He's gonna out wit you and technically overwhelm you with his flawless punching and defending capabilities, so when we saw Hatton get 'em to actually let his defenses down for a while and duke it out and show off his warrior spirit, it was marvelous to watch, you know? All his tools, from his brawling and combative side, to his awe-inspiring technique and mental savviness were all out on display, man, and that's what made it such a compelling fight.


If you can't appreciate that KO, bro, then I don't know what to say. The way it was timed and executed with such astonishing precision, it was just phenomenal, man. He lured 'em and walked him into that hook so cleverly...he basically used Hatton's aggression against him and baited him into coming inside and then BAM, caught 'em flush to the side of the head. It was just beautifully designed like a well engineered gogoplata, armbar or guillotine, bro.......about as picture perfect as they come.

::shinji::
16-12-2007, 06:47:PM
Yeah, your last two posts were spot on I have to say. I think I was still orgasming from Huerta-Guida and probably didn't give the boxing match a fair judgement. I can admit that now.. btw, did you get to see Kelly Pavlik-Jermaine Tayor a couple months back? Was a great fight, it was a boxing match that had me on the edge of my seat throughout...and for me that's unusual these days.

About Danzig and the farm boy, haha well I wasn't stroking it but I was releived that Tommy kid didn't win. I just think MMA needs more Huerta types (btw, doesn't he kinda remind you of a lightweight version of Shogun, or any Chute Boxe fighter for that matter?) and less olympic style wrestlers. Not that I don't appreciate their sport, I just don't think it's dynamic enough for MMA. Although there are certainly exceptions a la Randy Couture.

Guida's a beast too man, wether he's kicking ass or getting his ass kicked that guy has a habit of making it look spectacular. Love his intensity and I hope the UFC gives him a couple easier bouts next so he can build up some more w's on his record. They've really thrown Guida to the wolves since joining the UFC, he's pretty much only faced title contenders thus far.

Yossarian
16-12-2007, 07:20:PM
hehe...yeah, please give it another chance.

I haven't yet watched the Pavlik/Tayor match, but I was shocked to hear Taylor lose that bout, man. I intend on watching the first fight asap and catching the rematch aswell in February.

-I agree with you about your assesment of farm-boy type fighters and their one dimensionality. Huerta is a phenomenal fighter and really gifted standing up, but almost equally as adept on the ground too, man. He's just so eeriely calm and settled under any predicament, man. Your comparison of Shogun to 'em is spot on in my opinion. The kid is just so versatile and electrifying to watch.


LOL@ in regards to your comments about Guida....that dude is balls-out nuts, I swear. He is truly remarkable with his pace and aggression, man. It seems as though he's only got one gear and that gear is SUPREMEOVERDRIVETOTHEMAXAGGRESSION....he's just beautiful to watch, man, and he epitomizes that warrior attitude, but I just hope for his sake that he works on his standup more......boy did he take a lot of hellacious shots both from the hands and feet.....WOOF!

::shinji::
31-12-2007, 04:13:PM
Total Domination =

http://www.mmagifs.com/albums/uploads/ufc79/gsp_throw_elbow.gif
http://www.mmagifs.com/albums/uploads/ufc79/hughes_i_tap.gif
http://www.mmagifs.com/albums/uploads/ufc79/gsp_break_dancing.gif

F*ck Matt Hughes and his "country breakfast"!

yoyo913
31-12-2007, 11:20:PM
GSP is f*cking awesome

Yossarian
02-01-2008, 06:59:PM
Shin, I finally got to see the Pavlik/Taylor fight.....lemme just say......WOW! A fight of the year contender as far as I'm concerned, man. Those middleweights can hit, eh? What a crazy brawl, man. I still don't know how Pavlik recovered from that knockdown and got the fortitude and heart to go on and win the fight.....he was literally deadweight from head to toe, yet he found the mettle somewhere inside of 'em to hang on until the bell rang and recover enough the next rnd to actually win that rnd....wowzers!


Regarding UFC 79......I really enjoyed it. The Eddie Sanchez fight was utter ****! I don't know how that made it to the main card. The Clementi/Gulliard bout was just out of this World vitriolic and passionate.....those two were ready to kill each other right there in the ring because of their intense feud off the Octagon, man. From their previous scuffles out of the ring, to Gulliard giving Clementi the fingers as he entered the ring and shouting "**** You" at 'em, and then finally Clementi prancing over Gulliard's prostrated and compromised body after he choked 'em out......it was just endlessly dramatic and classless on both ends.....I'm glad Gulliard got his stupid ass owned, man.


The Machida/Sudokuboy bout was a bit of a surprise. See I was aware of Lyoto's flawless record but I wasn't really too familiar with his game, right? I thought that Sudokuboy could honestly knock his ass down, right? He was on a roll, he was bigger, more athletic and stronger, so I felt that he could pound the **** out of Machida, but the JaBrazilian made him look downright silly, yalls. He made him look painfully predictable and amateurish. He was smarter, his standup was more precise and consistent, and on the ground? It wasn't even a contest. Machida just simply outclassed 'em all over the Octagon...almost as one-sided as the GSP/Hughes fight. Also, his swagger and trashtalkin after the bout was hilarious and a welcomed surprise.


I didn't have much optimism for the Liddell/Silva fight to be honest. This match was long overdue, both of 'em slightly over the hill and just not their old, dominant selves, man. Anyway. It was pretty decent, man. I was thoroughly impessed with Chuck's vitality and gameplan. He was in tiptop shape, his punches were deadly accurate and surprisingly rapid, he was just tapping into his old formidable self, man. Wand was also great, interms of his fighting spirit and aggression, but he was detrimentally predictable. He ate a lot of devastating punches flush, and to his credit, he was able to recover quickly and fire off some decent punches of his own. He was a bit hesitant at times and unsure of how to get inside of Liddell's range and sweet jabs. I was really rootin' for 'em, but I really feel that Liddell handled him rather impressively well, man........REMATCH, please!


The GSP/Hughes fight was just brilliant, man. That fight must've been top quality masturbating material for you Shin, eh? It was one of the most dominant performances in the sport's history that I've ever witnessed. It was such a commanding and thorough victory that it sorta had me feeling sorry for Hughes, man......a lot like when he was pummeling on a long out of date Royce a while ago. GSP's display was just so absolute, crisp and flawless that I had to wipe the drool off my chin several times. It was just so marvelous and utterly astounding that I now find myself contemplating whether he just might be P4P the best MMAer around?


Overall, a 7.5/10 in my books


oh yeah, one more thing. It's such a farce that guys like GSP and Hunt fight as Welterweights....especially GSP, though. The dude must cut like 20/25pnds just to make weight, man. I would be surprised if he was even within 15pnds of the WW weight limit on fight night. The dude is clearly a natural middleweight and I hope that he eventually moves up to his natural class some time in the new year.

::shinji::
02-01-2008, 09:28:PM
touching on a few points you made here..

Machida.. I swear dude, he's this generation's Bruce Lee (in the making, anyway). I've always been fond of him as a fighter from the couple fights I saw of his during his pre-UFC days, but I'm just in awe of his skills now. I can see how someone could find his style unappealing at first, but the more you check out his moves you can really see just how sublime he is. I've been watching some of his highlights in slo-mo and all I can say is holy f*ck, he does a lot that gets missed at full speed, it's like watching poetry in motion. I'm pretty sure he has the ability to see sh!t coming at him in slow-motion..


look at this slick aikido style takedown vs. Nak, straight into side control:

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p175/the_chosen_one1/lyotothrow.gif

and another..

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p175/the_chosen_one1/lyotothrow2.gif

this is some serious Mr. Miyagi sh!t right here against Sam Hoger:

http://www.droptheblade.com/1.gif


I have to admit, I thought Soko was gonna give him hell too, but as of now I'm convinced Machida can take on and beat all comers..



Soa Palalei vs. Eddie Sanchez... personally I hope we never see either of these guys again. I was hoping for a heavyweight slugfest, pretty dissapoiting to say the least. Rumour has it though that Sanchez might be Arlovski's next opponent in March/April..


I share your sentiments exactly regarding Liddell-Silva. I dunno man, is it just me or do most of these Pride guys just seem physically smaller now that they're in the octagon? I've noticed this with a few guys now, and Wanderlei was no different...

GSP made my night man, you were bang on with that one! haha! It really did look like a father schooling his child out there, the real GSP is back no doubt. AND, it's even more amazing when you factor in the fact that GSP took this fight on short notice, although it's pretty obvious he's a training machine.

GSP at middleweight??? You know what that would set the stage for don't ya? ...the ultimate dream fight of the ages between GSP and Anderson Silva!!!!

Yossarian
03-01-2008, 08:16:PM
well put in regards to Machida. That dude is special. He's so eerily calm in the midst of battle, man. He's just beautiful to watch because everything he pulls off seems flawless and well timed


Secondly, about the weight/size inconsistency in former Pride fighters. I wholeheartedly agree with you, bro. You think the UFC's weight cutting/gaining is a joke? Pride was ten times worse. You had guys who were well over their class size being given the clearance to fight. Also, the rampant Steroid use in Pride (Since there's no laws against it in Japan) is probably wreaking havoc on some of the ex-Pride fighters. I mean, I'm sure there a lot of ways of getting around these tests since the NSAC testing methods are far from perfect and not nearly up to the standards of Wada and stuff. They're probably scared to death of being caught at the moment, thas all. One more thing, Wand usually fought closer 215-220 in Pride if I'm not mistaken, and around 230 for the Grand Prix (WTF is the plural for Prix?....prix?) in Pride....that's why he looks significantly smaller. It also didn't help that LIddell was in the best shape of his career and probably weighing around 230 for that fight, man. He was just ******* huge, eh? Both in muscular density and length aswell.


GSP....didn't he look remarkably big to you? Especially in his lowerbody? (NO HOMO) The guy was just stacked, man. I really feel that he can transition into middleweight effortlessly, and a fight with Anderson would be (attempts to stop self from salivating) a battle of epic proportions. That fight on its own would break MMA attendance/PPV puchase records, man.

ninjashoes
08-01-2008, 11:49:PM
Theres a new org coming out called Sengoko, Prides old staff is putting together the production. Gomi and Misaki have received offers.

newbie original
09-08-2009, 03:48:AM
No posts here for a while. I actually only started paying attention to MMA around UFC 94.......

BJ Penn is back(going through that Marinovich guy) after his beating at the hands of GSP. Going to be an exciting match against Kenny Florian. Florian is basically in the Wimbledon final....he's won 6 straight matches and now faces his toughest test with the title staring him in the face.

BTW, you guys excited about the potential of Kimbo Slice in the UFC heavyweight division?

Seán D
09-08-2009, 03:34:PM
Anderson Silva- Forrest Griffin was such a let down :(. Was hoping Forrest would put up a better fight. Anderson was brilliant though. BJ Penn was awesome aswell.

Seán D
09-08-2009, 03:35:PM
BTW, you guys excited about the potential of Kimbo Slice in the UFC heavyweight division?

Kimbo is a bum. Congo, Lesnar, Mir and the likes would smash him easy. I don't see what he has to offer.

newbie original
09-08-2009, 05:16:PM
I want to see a Machida vs Silva fight.

leungtl
10-08-2009, 11:37:AM
I want to see a Machida vs Silva fight.

I think anyone would, but it'll never happen sadly.

Anderson Silva is just a beast.

newbie original
11-08-2009, 03:50:AM
At this point, with Griffin and Jardine losing and Rampage and Evans already scheduled to fight, there aren't a whole lot of people left to put up against Machida.

Except Silva........:)

yoyo913
16-08-2009, 03:39:PM
Anderson Silva is on another level with the rest of MMA. He and Fedor occupy that elite. GSP is talented but he is more an extraordinary athlete and BJ is just really really good. Machida might become the next elite.

Elber2k3
16-08-2009, 03:44:PM
Meh... Fedor? I think he is overrated, he is damn good, no question, but I'm pretty sure he'd struggle against Lesnar or Mir and would definitely lose against A. Silva. I'd love to see that fight, shouldn't be a problem as Silva is a natural heavyweight.