View Full Version : 128 color kits are nothing new (tutorial included)


MasterKoji
08-01-2000, 05:46:PM
Hi,
This is Nick. I am sure as many of my fellow 64 color jersey makers know, if you don't black out the previous 192 colors in the jersey pallette before the last fixed 64 as Simon instructed (its done to avoid color confusion) then all the regular colors of FIFA still stay, and basically if you decide to use on of them in your 64 color jersey, you can change them withing the game. Take for example my Barcelona jersey. If you look at the actual image in the FSH file, the blue stripes that are supposed to be in Barca's jersey, I actually made white, the primary color in the fifa 2000 pallette and therefore you can change their colors in the game. I did this because I want to have extra shading. However, for the part where the logos and sponsors are, it is always best to have the 64 color technique. The reason for this is that if you try to make curved lines and sponsors using the built-in colors of the FIFA pallete, they will have "jagged" edges (these edges can be seen in the Dortmund jersey screenshot on the main page) because you cannot blend the colors together with the back of the jersey otherwise FIFA cannot cannot change the new colors you have created by blurring the edges.

Also, as many of you know, the ingame FIFA jersey editor has a lot of color variations, but as you can see in the Dortmund "128-color" jersey on the main page, it has a yellow color which is from the ingame editor. However, this is not the real color of the dortmund jersey. The real color is a gold, rich dark yellow which you can see in my Dortmund jersey. 64 colors allows you to choose exactly the shades of color you want.

So ultimately, the TUTORIAL is as follows: If you want so called "128-color" jerseys, simply make a 64 color jersey, but do not black out the previous 192 colors in the pallette. Just look at all the pallettes in my 64c jerseys, they ALL have the original colors still there. Then, if you want to be able to change colors in the ingame FIFA editor while still keeping the 64 colors, just use one of the original colors from the FIFA pallette (i.e. they whites and greys for primary color, the reds I think for secondary, etc.) and draw them into your 64c jersey. Then when you go to the ingame editor, you will still see the 64 fixed colors however the sections of the jersey in which you used the FIFA colors, you will see that you can change their colors by scrolling through either the primary, secondary, or tertiary colors.

All I am trying to say is to not get hyped about this alleged "new 128-color technique" because in essence, it already exists.

Sincerely,
Nick K.

P.S. If you have any questions about the 64-color or "128-color" techniques, email me at slickdude6@hotmail.com

J.A.B.J.
08-01-2000, 08:34:PM
I know - we discovered 128 colour jerseys long time ago!!!
Check out FIFA Centre Spot (www.fifacentrespot.de) for a load of 128-colour jerseys!!!

MasterKoji
09-01-2000, 02:15:AM
Yeah, its not really a discovery.

Salamo
09-01-2000, 08:53:AM
They don't even look as good as 64 color kits!!

MasterKoji
09-01-2000, 04:11:PM
For the exact reasons I posted above.

The Kid
10-01-2000, 09:27:AM
Yeah but the advantage of having a 128 color jersey is you only need one jersey instead of two. For example the dortmund jeresey could be used as a home and away jersey and only be one jersey file but if you use 64 you need to use two jersey files.

MasterKoji
10-01-2000, 07:18:PM
Yes but you see that is NOTHING NEW. All the people that for over a year have been making jerseys for FIFA 99 and such, that is exactly what they are making -- three color jerseys whose shades you can change in the game. Besides, you cant use the same jersey file for both home and away if you want to use the fixed 64 colors because those always appear in the game as they do in your editing screen.

Also, not every teams' home and away jersey is identical in design, so there is no point of degrading the jersey quality just so you could claim that its "128-colors"

Vic
11-01-2000, 07:02:AM
COULD SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE AN AC PERUGIA JERSEY?! COME ON PEOPLE!

The Kid
11-01-2000, 10:07:AM
"Besides, you cant use the same jersey file for both home and away if you want to use the fixed 64 colors because those always appear in the game as they do in your editing screen."
I don't understand what you are trying to say. What I said is if you have 128 color jersey you could use one file for both home and away jerseys because the three main colors could be changed. Now Manchester Utd. has two different jerseys I rather have the two 64 colored jersey then 128 color because I'm still gonna use two jerseys. What I'm trying to say is this if a team has an identical jersey design for home and away i.e. Dortmund I'll chose the 128 color because it's one file rather then the 64 colored jerseys because they are two files but if a team's road and home jeresy are not identical I rather have the 64 colored jersey's because they are nicer looking rather then 128 color. The reason I like 128 color jersey's is because I have more jersey files for other teams

MasterKoji
11-01-2000, 02:34:PM
What I'm saying is that if you are looking for quality, and you want to have a detailed, smooth sponsor for example, with all of the colors correct and different shadings, you would want to use the fixed 64 colors. But if you do use them, then THEY WILL ALWAYS appear that way, and therefore you will have funky colors on an away jersey that were supposed to be on a home jersey. As I said before, they are not "128-color" jerseys, they are the jersey people have been making for over 2 years now, using the 3 color-shades of FIFA and then changing the game. That has been the problem with the FIFA jerseys from the beginning. By using this technique, they degrade the quality of the jerseys.

MasterKoji
12-01-2000, 02:27:PM
I guess you just don't want to understand.

sligo
13-01-2000, 01:46:AM
I agree with you on that one Nick. Why remove quality for the sake of 128 color kit? Anyway, I've enjoyed all your kits so far. Seeing how most people are appeased by the great kits you have made, can I put in my personal request? Any chance of a Roma kit? The design of it would quite a challenge though and I'm not sure it is possible to do with the wolf on the shoulders and the FIFA Player modelling. Anyway, it would be wonderful if you did make it as I've been waiting quite some time for all the super clubs to be done. And if Roma keep up their position in Serie A, they might just be a new super club. Forza Roma! Keep up the good work Nick.

Warmest Regards,
sligo

Mike
13-01-2000, 08:27:AM
Hiya Nick! How are you doing? I hope everything's fine in your world. =)

Nick, I've been trying hard to contact you, but your e-mail keep refusing incoming mails from me. http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/frown.gif What's wrong?

I want to tell you something about those 128 colours issue:

The 128 colours is new and not.

Yup, I've realized that it isn't something new, the people at FIFAMANIA have even told me that they have started it back in late October 1999, but they keep it an internal use only for their FIFAMANIA patch. They have also told me that both them and you have already found out about 128 colours back then. http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

And it is new because as far as I know, that is the first 128 colours kit that has been made available to public. If you sent me an example of it back in 1999, the case would be different.

I hope that straigthen some things out.

I hope you are not mad at me, and if I was the one who are guilty for all of this situation, I truly apologize. http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

BTW, Nick, I haven't got any kits from you lately. What's going on? http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/wink.gif

Thanx for the time.

MasterKoji
13-01-2000, 07:24:PM
Hey Mike my mate,
You are not guilty for anything. I just honestly don't feel its right for the jerseys to be called "128-color" jersey because they are exactly like the 3-color jersey in FIFA except with the sponsors -- the type of jersey people have been making for the game since it came out. As far as my e-mail, I have no idea why it rejects it. Try sending it to nkoji@yahoo.com as an alternative option. I have been really busy with school lately with exams coming up. I haven't even had time to zip my PSG jersey but I will have it to you soon, and that will probably be it for the rest of the month.

Best Wishes mate,
Nick

Mike
14-01-2000, 02:44:AM
Hey Nick,

Thanx! http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I'll try to send to your alternative account and update my address book. Well, good luck with your school exams, Nick! http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

The Kid
14-01-2000, 03:58:AM
Hey masterkoji what don't I understand?
Yah I know 64 color jersey's are way nicer 128 color jersey's. That I know. All i'm saying Is I rather have the 128 because one jersey file can be used as home jersey or road. But IF!!! A team uses TWO DIFFERENT jersey's I WILL RATHER get A 64 COLORED JERSEY!!!!!!!!
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
If there were an unlimited amount of jerseys the we could use for FIFA 2000 I would be getting pratically all your jerseys, BUT there insn't an unlimited amount that we could use

MasterKoji
15-01-2000, 04:49:AM
Ok now I understand your preferences.

Naresh
15-01-2000, 12:34:PM
Hi nick

I made a 64c kit using simon's tutorial.
Im sure i did everything right but it something wrong with the kit.
When i try to see the kit in teamedit it display white colour(this is righ(sleeve))
but when i play a match it displays black colour(sleeve,rest of the kit is ok)

Please help me out

Naresh
16-01-2000, 11:50:AM
Nick Please reply this

MasterKoji
18-01-2000, 09:37:PM
Naresh, sorry for the late reply. Please e-mail me the image files you used in the kit so I can see what is wrong.

Email: slickdude6@hotmail.com