if you think Israel is so bad and russia is better then you haven't looked in fifa's fifa.com and checked the fifa ranking, Israel is 26 and russia is 28 so don't make statments without checking cause israel's national is better than russia's national team and the russian league is no better than the israeli league

Good joke! http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif)) Israelean league suxxxxx.
National team has only 1 good player-Revivo.
Russian league is MUCH better than Israeli league.
And that ratings are not so good. Because I saw there that Egypt national team was
10-25(I don't remember) http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif))) Russian national team, Of course, better than Israel, France-Russia-2:3 at St.Dennies.

To DeeR shut up
Israel-Austria 5-0 if you think they'r so good then request from fifa2000 online to make a download of the Russian league and then play against an Israeli team so you know who's better and don't play the teams that are trying to avoid relegation play maccabi haifa or maccabi tel aviv or hapoel tel aviv or beitar jerusalem and just so you know maccabi haifa-PSG 3-2 and 1-1

Israel-Russia-1:1, 0:2. It was in 97-98, the qualification to WC98, and 1:1 was a big sensation. And national team is not a league.

PSG http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif What was there place last season in the French league. And I don't say, that Russian league should be in fifa2000 instead of Israel, I like Isarael league, because thre are many russian players(bad players, of course). I say, that if in fifa2000 will be Israelean league and Swedish and Norwegian and Turkish and etc, then there should be the Russian league too.

to deer, there are no bad russian players in israel when you talked about the 2:0 it was Kosolapov that scored the 2nd goal and now he's on my favorite team Maccabi tel aviv
I agree that russia should be in fifa 2000 but instead of israel and when you said wc98 results that's history man i'm talking about the last year

I just don't remember Israeli teams in 1/2 finals of Euro Cups ever. And I don't see any of Esraeli clubs in League of Champions now. This is so weird, dude!
"They are the best! They are champions of the world! It is a great league! and bluh-bluh-bluh" Well, if Iceland league would be in FIFA 2000, and Israeli not, you would scream and shout "That is unfair! That is unfair!, Israeli league is better than, for example Iceland!", and that would be true.
Who gives ****, that Kosolapov plays in Israel. My friend's favorite player plays there, and he still thinks that Israeli league should be in FIFA 2000 after Russian.
Israeli league is good, only beacause there are many good Russians ( for example, Kosolapov, Popov Ukrainians:Talasnikov, Pogodin, Balanchuk)

To DEER

Parc de France
France 2 - 3 Israel

PS . . That was 6 years ago http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

to Evil, Balanchuk left Israel 2 Years ago and he Didn't do so good, Popov just joined Maccabi tel aviv and Pogodin left 3 years ago. I'm not Saying that Russia is not a good league i'm saying that it should'nt be in Fifa 2000 but not instead of israel

GLORY GLORY MAC HAIFA!!! TREBLE !!!!!
Y E A H R I G H T !!

1. Nir Davidovitch (Israeli International)
2. Raimondas Zutautas (Lithuanian INL)
3. Alon Harazi (Israeli INL)
4. Arik Benado (Israeli INL)
6. Adoram Keise (Israeli INL)
10. Jersy Brzeczek (Polish INL)
11. Yaniv Katan (Israeli U-21 INL)
12. Serghei Clescenco (Moldovian INL)
15. Yossi Benayoun (Israeli INL)
16. Avi Zano
23. Georgi Gakhokidze (Georgian INL)


And there you have it

The starting lineup for UEFA Cup holders!!
again yeah right

2 Snir Geuli,
I didn't say, that Israelean league is bad, I said, that Russian league should be in FIFA2000, not instead of Israel or something else, but just, for example, 19 league(I think, there will be 18 leagues), because it's good(7th league in Europe, maybe, the 6th must be in fifa2000)
2 Unknown,
France wasn't world champion 5 years ago.

to unknown ata hoed haifa o maccabi hah tagid li ata hoed haifa?

To evil and DeeR, I would be glad to have the Russian league in fifa 2000 but not instead Israel, I'm mad at you guys because you say that the Israeli league and it's not true the Israeli league is better than the MLS,turkey,sweden,Korea and Norway. how do you guys do those smiley faces?

Last season, Cup Winners Cup,

Lokomotiv-Maccabi Haifa -3:0,1:0 !!!!!!!!

2 Snir Geuli,
I didn't say, that I am not agree with that:
"the Israeli league is better than the MLS,turkey,sweden,Korea and Norway" In Israel league, there are some good russian players, bbut not all.

to evil, how do you do those smiley faces?

1994: M Haifa 1-0 PARMA
1996: M Haifa 2-1 Ajax
1997: M Haifa 4-3 AC MILEN
1998: M Haifa 3-2 Paris SG

Snir lama mi ata hoshev she'ani ohed????

Maccabi "Ephedrine" TA ????????

betah she M Haifa

I'm nost saying that Israilian shouldn't be in FIFA2000. I'm saying that if there is Israilian and Turkish leagues, there must bu Russian League.
Or do I have to say it slower?

2 Unknown,
btw, Parma in 1994 wasn't very good,
Milan in 1997 wasn't good also,
PSG in 1998 was bad,
Ajax in 1996 played bad(only UEFA cup), yes in 1997 Ajax was good, but not in 1996.

BUT, LOKOMOTIV-MACCABI HAIFA - 3:0, 1:0
Ok, please, don't say me anything about Maccabi any more, maybe, it's a good team.

2 Unknown:
You want me to start writing Russian Clubs' good performances in the Eurocups?
OK, CSKA Moscow beat Barcelona TWO times in their Champions' league group. Thet was in 1991.
Spartak Moscow won ALL 6 games in their Champions' League group in 1995. They had Rosenbourg ( Norwegian Champion), Blackburn ( English Champion! ) and Legia ( Polish Champion!)
In the biginning of 1998, Lokomotiv Moscow and Spartak Moscow went to the Semifinals of their cups. Loko Went to Cup of the Winners' Cup, and Spartak went to UEFA Cup Semifinals, and lost to Inter, the Champion of the UEFA Cup, later.
Last year, Spartak went to the Group of Death in Champions' League, with UEFA Cup winner, Internazionale, and Champions' League Winner Real Madrid. Loko went to the Semifinals of Cup of the Winners' Cup, previously beat Maccabi Haifa in two games.
This year, Loko beat 7-1, 5-0 BATE of Belarus, which is now on the first place in Belarus Championship.
Oh, I forgot, Spartak beat Ajax in two games, when they went to UEFA Cup semifinals two years ago ( 3:1, 1:0 ), and previously they beat Sion, the Switzerland champion, 1:0, 5:1.
Last year, to qualify to Champions' League, Spartak beat Bulgarin Champion, about 6:1 TWO times.
This year they beat Partizan TWO times to qualify to the Champioons' League.

Is this not enough?
That is why Russian Championship is 7th in the Europe, and that why it is unfair, that Israeli, Turkish, Norwegian, and other leagues are in FIFA 99, and Russian is not!!!

Dimon i totally agree!!!!!

i also think that the russian league
should be in fifa2000

it's kinda wierd to have the israeli league
that isn't very good, and not to have the
russian league that is a must

2 unknown:
I have posted Maccabi Roster
I can do better with Spartak M Roster:
Baranov: Belarus ITL
Filimonov: Russian ITL
Bulatov: Russian ITL
Khlestov: Russian ITL
Tikhonov: Russian ITL
Mor: Russian U-21 squad
Bezrodny: Russian U-21 squad
Titov: Russian ITL
Parfenov: Ukrainian ITL
Tsymbalar: Russian ITL
Yuran: Russian ITL, played in Porto, Benfica, Dynamo K, Bochum
Kovtun: Russian ITL
And they have 2-3 players going out of club to Europe (Alenichev, Bakharev, etc.)
We have other great players:
Panov, Russian ITL Zenit
Berezovsky, Armenian ITL Zenit
Demetradze, Georgian ITL Alania
Smertin, Russian ITL Loko Moscow
Dzhanashia, Georgian ITL Loko Moscow
Chugainov, Russian ITL Loko Moscow
Nidergaus, Khakhstan ITL Rotor
Veretennikov, Russian ITL Rotor
Radimov, Russian ITL, Dynamo, played in Real Zaragoza
Semak, Russian ITL CSKA Moscow
Khomukha, Turkmenian ITL CSKA Moscow
Skachenko, Ukrainian ITL Torpedo Moscow
Dragush, Romanian ITL Torpedo Moscow
Klyuev Dynamo, played in Feyenoord, Shalke 04
Shmatovalenko Sov.Wings, played for USSR ITL, Ukrainian ITL, Dynamo K

These are some great players in Russian Championship. They are not worse than players
listed by you.


[This message has been edited by Dimon (edited 08-30-1999).]

Dimon, you forgot about Brazilian legioners in Russian clubs, wether they play or played.

Hey, EA SPORT! What kind of specialists did you use to pic leagues for the greatest sport game ever? How did it happen? What is wrong with you? If you began to do things then do it with some quality!!!

To Snir Geuli:
You just show you unsufisticatness in Football. You just don't see a real deferense between Leagues rating and Nat. Teams Rating. You know what, it's whole different things. Check it by yourself, dude. You'll see how wrong you were.

After all I hope you're not gonna teach me stuff, won't ya?

ISREL SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX SO BAD MAN RUSSIA
IS WAY BETTER.I AGREEE WITH DEER AND EVIL.

2 Snir Geuli's first message:
Yeah!!!
If we are talking about national teams, leat me say:
How many Israel legioners play in Europe.
I know a guy from Celta, and, I think Celtic?
But we have:
Kharin, Celtic
But, Borussia D
Kanchelskis, Rangers G
Karpin, Celta
Mostovoi, Celta
Onopko, Oviedo
Bestchastnykh, Racing S
Shustikov, Racing S
Simutenkov, Tenerife
Yanovski, Paris Saint Germen
Kolyvanov, Bologna
Alenichev, Roma
Ovchinnikov, Benfica - Alverca
Demchenko, Ajax
Nikiforov, PSV
Khokhlov, PSV

And you say that your National team is better?

I dont think that the Israel league is poor but I do think that the Russian league should be on FIFA 2000 instead of the Israel league.

I want Russian league in FIFA2000 instead of any bad league(Israel, Sweden, Norway, Korea and etc., of course, MLS will be in FIFA2000, although it's bad, everybody know why)

2Dimon about the Israeli legioners:

Berkovic (Celtic)
Revivo (Celta)
Talesnikov (Dundee Utd)
Ghrayib (Aston Villa)
Badir (Wimbledon)
Hazan (Watford-FC)
Mizrahi (FC Nice)
Banin (Brescia-calcio)
Tikva (Grasshoppers)
Tal (Mareida)
Kakun (Mareida)

And of course Russia has more players
playing around europe
Russia is a very big country.


2all of u
I think the russian league should be
in FIFA 2k, but it should be the 19th
league, because u don't need to
cancel one league or another to put the russian.

2Unknown,
Dimon said only about legioners in good clubs!!!
And I don't care if Russian league will be 19th league or it will be instead of some league. But it must in FIFA2000. I think it's more interesting to have more leagues!

2Unknown,
Dimon said only about legioners in good clubs!!!
And I don't care if Russian league will be 19th league or it will be instead of some league. But it must in FIFA2000. I think it's more interesting to have more leagues!

To EA SPORT (they don't listen it anyway):
You must add Russian league in the game!

to evil, i know that team's ratings and NAT's ratings are totally different I wrote this message in the first place because before you said that russia should be instead of Israel and now you're saying that russia should not be instead of israel, i also say that ea sports should put russia in the game but not instead israel!

2 Unknown:
Dundee Utd. is a middle club of Scotish Premier League. It is not the best club in Europe.( not one of the best too)
And Fc Nice is in second French division
Brescia is in Italian Serie B
I do not know such club, as Mareida ( did you mean Merida? If yes, it is in 2nd Spanish division.)
We have more people in lower divisions too.
And you said, that Russia is a bigger country -- well, it is, so we have a better league and if I would want Russian league in FIFA 2k, I would want it instead of the worst league in FIFA 2k. SO, IT COULD BE KOREA, ISRAEL, SWEDEN AND MLS!!!

Don't say anything about Turkish league an national team Snir Geuli.Only Galatasaray or Beþiktaþ or maybe FenerBahçe is enough to beat your national team.Don't you know galatasaray or Beþiktaþ.
Beþiktaþ:30th
Galatasaray:17th(In Fýfa Teams reports)
And if you say Russian League or Israel league,I will say Russian because Ýsrael league suxxxxxxxxx at all.Russia has a very good football!



[This message has been edited by Can Tümer (edited 09-04-1999).]

yes.I agree with Gunes Ertunc.Turkish League is very good.So don't talk about Turkish League

HEY ALL!!

I KNOW THE REASON WHY SOME ISRAELI FAN(S)?!(ITS SNIR BY THE WAY) IS SO AGGRESSIVE ABOUT TURKISH LEAUGE...

ITS SIMPLE;

OUR LEAGUE(TURKISH) IS BETTER THAN SNIR'S (ISRAELI)AND 'HE CANT BEAR TURKISH LEAGUE!!!!!'

HE ADMIRES!
HE WANTS ISRAELI LEAGUE LIKES TURK LEAGUE!
HE KNOWS ISRAEL LEAGUE SUX!
WHY EA DIDNT PUT RUSSIA??!! http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/wink.gif

Lets get the record straight, there are only 3 good leagues in the world. English, Spanish and Italian. The rest don't matter

Seriously, how many are you are actually going to play in the Israeli/Russian League?

Selçuk;

Fifa2000...türkçe....forumlu....etkileyici...

UOK'nýn bizlere sunduðu Türkçe Fifa2000 sitesi;

www.crosswinds.net/~uok

to ste lloyd
i would have more fun playing my league than the premier league same as the russians, btw your icq # isn't 4012456

The Top leagues would be more challenging.

I think we should let the israeli and russian leagues in, and get rid of the Scottish league. Apart from rangers and Celtic, all the rest are crap. Rangers and Celtic should be in the Other Euro Clubs section

To all Turkish members

Hapoel Haifa
(I hate this team but it's from Israel)
won besiktas in the 2nd qual round
of the CHAmpions league

again i don't care what leauge is better
both leauges are include in FIFA2K

http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif)))))))

http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

It's not much of a contest, regarding legionaires in Europe. When you're a jumbo country with 100,000,000 people (I forget exactly) it's easier to find talents. We've only been around for 50 years, and in Europe for much less. I think it's a mighty achievement for Israel to reach what she has. By the way, Russian Rocket, how were the Euro2000 playoffs? oh, yeah... http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

All in good nature, though. We didn't do so great in the Euro playoffs http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif and I happen to come (distantly) from Russia.
Also, we both seem to have that keeper problem... http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

The truth is Israel and Russia still have a long way to go, league-wise and national team-wise.

Also, with the incredible (IN)accuracy in Fifa's Israeli league (everyone knows Ashdod rocks!!?) I wouldn't fret about Russia missing.

Maccabi Haifa Rocks Forever!

Look, Sella
This topic was posted when Russia had pretty big chances of going on the Euro.
And we missed the Euro'00 because our goalie Filimonov allowed the stupidiest goal I ever seen from the Shevchenko's free kick.

Plus, 3:0 and 5:0 say that the deal is not in keepers. One thing I don't understad; what was up with Austria?

Hey, I'm a fan of Russia myself, having hailed from there.

Nothing "was up" with Austria. THey're just a horrible team. They were after a 9:0 from Spain or something and we were after a 3:0 vs. Cyprus. We had everything go our way and they didn't...

Hey, how can be even come close to Denmark? I mean, they have SCHMEICHEL. http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif