EA Sports would like to find out how the community is responding to the Creation Centre.

The first thing they want to know is simple. Do you use the Creation Centre? Can you please respond to that by voting in the poll above.

Secondly they want your feedback on how it can be improved. What kind of features should it have that it didn't have this year?

Please reply to this thread with just a list of features you want added and your opinions on the Creation Centre. They are the only kind of responses we want here, anything off topic or any posts not specifically including feedback will be deleted.

Thanks guys. Any feedback you give will go towards the Creation Centre for FIFA 2004.

how about being able to change player numbers, players boots, and be able to give all players specific faces for starters? a stadium editor thrown in would be nice too, and lets not forget, how about chaging data without totally messing up formations? :P

I agree with "grandmasta jozef".

Please EA give us the freedom to edit everything and include everything that we want to do. No limitations of file size and players as well as team etc...

Furthermore, I think it's not against the law and licence that we create new leagues because it did not come from you, EA...

Give us easy ways to edit like just put bmp or jpeg files for new kits and badges as well as the ingame pop-up.....

I can't use it, that's the problem...

if i install the CC, it takes 30 minutes to load games :o

Two words : IT SUCKS !!!!!
Yes it is, but with a good fix it could be great. First of all, it deletes saved games whenever you change and import something. And then you can`t import spesific faces, which really anoysme, and last but not least you can`t change the player`s boots. If you take a look at the FCDP program from last year, the program shows us in real-time how a new installed face and kits are performed in the game, which is very helpful to be sent as screenshot. EA really need to improve this fat 30 MB`s useless editor. I hope they keep their promises.

Originally posted by K-Man
I can't use it, that's the problem...

if i install the CC, it takes 30 minutes to load games :o

the games takes like 20 minutes loading:(

Originally posted by Matt Holme
EA Sports would like to find out how the community is responding to the Creation Centre.

...Secondly they want your feedback on how it can be improved. What kind of features should it have that it didn't have this year?...

Thanks guys. Any feedback you give will go towards the Creation Centre for FIFA 2004.

in CC we need to:
1/ edit all player info/atributes that are used in the game (name, age, weight, height, nationality, face, hair, haircolor, skin color, nationality, shirt number, position in the team (starter/subst/reserve), position on the pitch (goalie,...,striker), attributes (skills)
2/ edit all team info/attributes that are used in the game (team name, nationality, bankroll, kick takers, captains)
3/ create new full-featured leagues (league, national cup, best teams to european cups, promotions, relegations)
4/ move teams from one league to another
5/ assign home+away+3rd+goalie kits to the team
6/ assign team logo, flags, banners, chants to the team
7/ export all changes into one package that could be distributed through the internet

CC for FIFA 2004? NO!!! We need an upgraded CC for FIFA 2003 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by lukas_svoboda
in CC we need to:
1/ edit all player info/atributes that are used in the game (name, age, weight, height, nationality, face, hair, haircolor, skin color, nationality, shirt number, position in the team (starter/subst/reserve), position on the pitch (goalie,...,striker), attributes (skills)
2/ edit all team info/attributes that are used in the game (team name, nationality, bankroll, kick takers, captains)
3/ create new full-featured leagues (league, national cup, best teams to european cups, promotions, relegations)
4/ move teams from one league to another
5/ assign home+away+3rd+goalie kits to the team
6/ assign team logo, flags, banners, chants to the team
7/ export all changes into one package that could be distributed through the internet

CC for FIFA 2004? NO!!! We need an upgraded CC for FIFA 2003 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And we need it to be easy to use ( user friendly ), don`t forget not just editing, but added new faces to be used in the game for players who don`t have spesific faces, assign new stadiums maybe ??? Well, to tell you the truth, I don`t think that EA would listen to this, since they have a very good reputation of making fans hope come true three years after the fans told them. So we can only expect improvement happens maybe on FIFA 2006... ( Example : gameplay, we`ve been whining about it since FIFA 2000, when do they fix it ???? FIFA 2003 !!!! )

being a moderator and also a webmaster of a fantasy site that depends on such a program, i'd like to see these features for the Creation Centre.

+ Replays, I think these have to be reconsidered, an external program/utility should be welded into the Creation Centre, so replays are more accessible for all.

+ Editabilty (Great Word)

The creation centre lacks this ... the no. of players that be allowed in a package is a sham ... it should be unliminted.

Also, merging packages, try that EA ...

thats my piece :)

Study FCDB And Fed well for a week or so, and then try to upgrade the CC. The only plus the CC has over the other two produced by the COMUNITY is that it can export-import ready packages. Evrything else should be like FEd. Team management should be in CC, and we should be able to edit starplayers names and look too, not just all the normal players. For example: Del Piero doesn't have long hair anymore, and I think people should have their god damn right to decide whether they want a longhaired Del Piero or a shorthaired! Players like Cafu also have a first name: Marcos Cafu, Vitor Borba Rivaldo, Da Silva Roberto Carlos. If you don't want or can't write the whole name, let US do it! I undestand the structure of the game is real different and there probably won't be any solution to the formations problems and th number problems, but at least let us edit starplayers! I think that you should have made sure little things like being able to change the team captain and numbes for the players were enabled before putting up this new restrictive structure around this great game! Because Fifa 2003 IS great as it is, but it's betrayal like to offer a possibility to edit the game and then let people find out it's restrictive! Then don't do it at all!

Need to be able to alter team data without it screwing up the lineup.
Tried to create a generic black kit as the Everton 3rd shirt which resulted in the lineup being changed to players in the wrong positions with the wrong numbers. Goalkeepers playing out and outfield players playing in goal!

It would also be better if we could import more than one package at a time without having to try and merge them together

All I've used it for so far is to add EA's own CC extras and to add 2 chants to Everton
Can we add more chants please!

I agree with all that has been written above, in particuliar what Lukas Svoboda said.
The main reason I don't use the CC right now is because it slows the game. It takes sooo much time to load a game that it makes it impossible to use.
I think the programmers ??? from EA should study the structure of Fed .This program was only 4Mb and user friendly.
There are there many people like me whose main occupation with the game is to update it ,to make it closer to reality.
And it is impossible with the actual CC with the result that a lot of people will stop playing the game after a while !

I forgot something important. Please make the CC support a multi language option

EA, can u please improve the CC, it sucks...when i installed a package, my saved games are not being able to played....

To improve the CC for Version 2, I'd like to make the following suggestions:

(1) The present version does not allow you to allocate numbers to players. Given the attention to
detail with the graphics, this seems like a glaring omission and people are having to use Microsoft
Access to sort it out. An ability to assign numbers is a must.
(2) Editing teams in the CC currently causes rosters and team numbers for in-game teams to change.
Again - correcting this is essential.
(3) Created teams are only available in Friendly mode. It would be good to see a return to last year's
system where created teams were available for any Custom Cup tournament. I'm aware that the CC
has taken over some of the role of the Custom Cup but it would do no harm to have both options,
particularly as...
(4) Every time a package is loaded, all saved games, team management and options are lost. This
decreases the flexibility of the package idea - ie that you can import friend's packages and stuff from
the internet. You can - but only if you start all leagues and competitions from scratch.
(5) The ability to create kits and supporter's graphics is great, but to create a league of, say, 20 teams
would take a very long time. More 'generic' kit types would be a useful inclusion. There's been 40 or sso kit varieties for as klong as I can remember - this year we only have 10.
(6) The option to have 32 team knockouts and 24 team leagues has been dropped this year - and
again this decreases the flexibility of the product.
(7) The Free Cam and Zoom options are absent this year. I'm straying onto potential F2003 patch
territory here but considering the effort you've put in to making the graphics superb, if ever there was
a game that needed zooming in abilities, it must surely be this one.
(8) Being able to define our own ref strictness and weather (not to mention, as was the case long
long ago, allocating stadia to teams) is preferable to having it done for us and again, I can't see that
it adds anything to the game to take these features out.
(9) Any changes we make, whatever the limitations of the software, must at least be importable into the game. At the moment, not all my edited kits are loading up.
(10) Ultimately, editability is where it's at. Even RPG games - which used to just involve moving from one 2D room to another - are beginning to incorporate editing features and zoom cams. A full blown stadium editor is probably a long way off but some sort of modular approach may be possible - mix 'n' match stands etc - just to provide a bit of customised flavour.
(11) Surely - surely - changing one strip of one team can be achieved without having to gobble up 30MB of hard disk space.
(12) Why does the CC have to be separate from the main game - it was much better when it was incorporated into the main body of the software.
(13) More control over which teams play which in K/Os would be useful. Recreating this year's Champion's League is not possible because in addition to there being a limitation of 16 teams in K/O competitions, we have no way of controlling which teams go into which groups. Have a look at the Character Generator for DnD 3rd Edition by Wizards Of The Coast - it has a drag n drop interface for skills and attributes that could be used to drop teams specifically into league and K/O 'slots'.

If I think of anything else, I'll be back. As I've said elsewhere in these forums, most of these changes are of the "admin" variety and ought to be perfectly achievable by programmers. Compared to getting the gameplay right, this ought to be the easy bit.

I cannot agree with (12). I prefer standalone editor instead of an in-game creation centre.

and what about having players wearing earrings,armbands,necklace's and tapes over the socks and that shorts under the game shorts such as ronaldo has
i think it would be great if we could assign that kinds of things to players

but i first have to see if they really would like to put another version of cc

but it would be great if they do that cuz this version sucks



and i hate newcastle they've put my lovely feyenoord out of the champions league


gongrats newcastle sups.

Hello guys I have a 64MB video card, a brazilian (portuguese language) FIFA 2003 and a english version of EA Creation Centre because there ins´t a Creation Centre portuguese version. I am having some problems with Creation Centre and below I write what is going wrong with my game:

01- After I install my packages with Creation Centre, during the game all my team management are ruined and all team and league names disappear not allowing me to manage the ruined teams.

02- During the game I can´t see the players numbers and names in their jerseys.

Please does anybody know how can I solve those problems???



This is my next Creation Centre version wishlist:

01- Correction of these bugs above.

02- Posibility to manage the teams direct from Creation Centre (line ups, kick takers, captains...)

03- Posibility to edit the players jersey numbers.


Thanks!

Originally posted by lukas_svoboda
I cannot agree with (12). I prefer standalone editor instead of an in-game creation centre.
Dude, I think what that guy meant was something like FCDP. You see, FCDP access directly to the database file in the game, and also directly change it when we edit it, so when we save it it won`t delete saved games. CC kinda like replacing our default settings with the package, so we can`t access our saved games everytime we use CC. Besides an in-game editor is not that bad, for some editing like sleeves and boots or hair, it`s much more practical to edit it directly from the game. A separate editor is good for kit installing, face, and banners.

The CC is the ****test editor I have ever seen. Come on EA, was the mission this year to make editing as hard as possible for us??
The kit import system is really stupid, I hate the fact that you cant create a competition until you create the teams, and you cant create the teams until you create the players.
You cant assign a stadium to a new team, you can only have a maximum of 20 teams in a new competition, so much for creating the nationwide 1st division which has 24 teams!!
There isnt any option to import a kit picture for the kit selct menu in-game, so please put that in.
No specific face option, no option for boot colour, no option for player accessories.
There is no way of assigning commentary to a player, likeif you created a new player called Ferdinand you should be able to choose Ferdinand in the commentary for that player.
For the kits you should simply have a box which you type the ID of the kit, and then we can import the kit into the kit file ourselves.
What about being able to select a crowd colour, and crowd population in a percentage, like Wimbledon get about 500 fans every match, which a small percentage of the stadium capacity.

Thats all I can think of at the moment, and BTW we want a new creation centre for 2003, not 2004. I think a lot of people are really pissed off with EA this year so EA better fix it quick.
One thing I notice every year is EA make something worse, this years its the CC.

Originally posted by ChRIsA
Thats all I can think of at the moment, and BTW we want a new creation centre for 2003, not 2004. I think a lot of people are really pissed off with EA this year so EA better fix it quick.
One thing I notice every year is EA make something worse, this years its the CC.
I wouldn`t really want to put high hopes on that dude, perhaps they would improve it somewhere in the mid 2006. It`s all because EA has a tradition of giving the fans like they want three years after they request it, like gameplay for example. Yes, they never mention it, but we all know it`s true, don`t we ??? Anyway to all the guys and probably girls who posted here, just don`t put your hope too much for an improvement this year, I did it when waiting for the CC, and all I got is A BIG 30 MB`S of dissapointment and an increased phone bill. BTW Chris, your Keane`s face for FIFA 2002, is much better than EA`s Keane for FIFA 2003...:rockman:

BTW Chris, your Keane`s face for FIFA 2002, is much better than EA`s Keane for FIFA 2003...

I know!!:crazyboy:

Secondly they want your feedback on how it can be improved. What kind of features should it have that it didn't have this year?

This year? so we have to wait for the next year. EA, I have paid a lot of money for this game, not only for the game but because there was going to be this great editor which was going to give us the posibility to edit almost everything. The CC, to put it kindly, is not good enough like it is now. I don't want to have to wait another year, I want a good CC for Fifa2003 and if it's going to take EA 2 months or so, do it! Just make it right, take the time you need.

For the things I want in the CC, look at Lukas' post.

the poll creator should have added an "it sucks" option

We need to import things like faces for players... And getting rid of all bugs.

We have to be able to:

- change players jersey numbers
- change the team captain
- change team formation and kick tackers
- add audio to missing players.

I like the fact that CC is out of the game...I don't think that should be changed

then what should?

a) PLAYER NUMBERS! we can't stress that enough...
b) more tactics strategies and formations
c) don't hold back on us! give us stuff like the sim_rank or special moves and special boots on players
d) chosing the captain

nice to ask for the 2004 version...but what about now? why can't there be a better CC for the current version? and if not at least you could let us know how to change some things through access
e.g. what playingstyle and strategies are? how can we pick a captain for a team? stuff like that...

sorry for my terrible english

two things that really iritate me are the player numbers cannot be changed or assigned and custom teams dont have their own gk kit. these are simple changes which could be done easily

The worse thing is that the saved games are erased after using the CC... grrrrrrr

The main things why I don't use the CC:

-Samegames are ruined
-No changes in player numbers, setting captains, player boots.
-Kit Import sucks, KitRaptor is much better.
-No formation/teamtactics editable
-Can't see the final result of your player's appearance, you have to boot the game, score or commit a foul with the player and make a printscreen to view it.

I feel that the most important thing is to:

-Make the editor access the .dbi database directly, and not erasing savegames
-Making the Kit Import/Export function like KitRaptor's
-Add more options to edit, the options you have now are pretty useless for a "complete" editor
-Add a 3d Viewer to view the players (also those with specific faces, not just a questionmark, that really sucks) so we can rotate view of the face and body so we won't have to boot the game everytime we want to edit.

I think EA should start from scratch again with the CC, this is really not cutting it.

i worked for two days on my patch

i load the game,
what happens?

- A midfielder is in the goal, my two keepers are attackers. Changing the position of the keeper to that of the one who is keeper in the game doesn't help. The same player stays the keeper.

-no ability to change the numbers

- when i loaded the game last time, all the teams names and players names were gone. Only the players numbers were visible in team management. Also no names on the shirts ingame.
Really weard

what the hell is going on ?????
:kader: :kader: :kader: :kader:

They should improve it so we can change jersey numbers and boot colours and other detailed stuff on the players , and the most important fix the roster ****!

i used the CC for a roster update it worked fine the first time because I imported my created players from another package,,, some lineups were messed up but I fixed them in the Team Management section.. numbers on the other hand were fine but captains were wrong!
the problem is i forgot some players.. and if I go back and add them to the game everything will be messed up(lineups)

I hope EA can create a patch so that saved games won't be lost and so that we can edit numbers and captains:rockman:

the main problem i decide to uninstall CC is, the game will run slow, loading slow, the game stop for a while when you play in-game........it's annoying and i decide not use it, no help at all and cause problems.......:kader: :kader: :kader: come on EA, do something useful.............. :confused:

It would be a great tool but it needs alot of improovments. First of all it was very hard to figure it out even though there was some documentations in the help files. I believe, it was hard to use because the documentation was almost useless, need more detailed info how to use the editor. Took me 1 week to figure it out, even than when I use it properly I still run in to bugs like the line-up mess or can't play my previouse saved games (leagues, turnaments). It should of been easier to use and please get rid of such bugs. We also wanted to be able to assign the captain, kick taker, freekick taker, penalty takers, boot colours/styles, shirt numbers.......

please, if your suggestion/comments have been posted before, dont repeat them. :)

i'm not singling anyone out, its just for everyone in general.

Ea has completely screwed everything up, have they not even looked at the editors like fed and fcdbxp from previous seasons, the Creation center is a complete joke. For rosters this season I will be using the Access method for editing.
If EA truly wanted to create something of an editor they would have done better to have hired the folks who created last years editors

Creation Center 2 must contain :

1) BOOTS , ACCESSOIRES OF THE PLAYERS
2) PLAYER'S NUMBERS
3) PLAYER'S NATIONALITY
4) MORE HAIR AND FACIAL HAIR
5) TEAM MANAGEMENT (captain , positions , kick takers , more strategy)
6) ALL BUGS MUST FIX (importing problems etc ...)

all in the creation center must improve ...
:clapwap: a good idea : a new Creation Center , no improve with patches ... because the first it :-puke:

In general, the Creation Centre is a huge blemish on an otherwise excellent game. Foremost, its too difficult to navigate, and - to put it simply - I can't run the game when its installed.

Remember that the average gamer, even the passionate gamer, doesn't want to spend a great deal of time navigating such a tool. It should have a clear, simple interface for everyone. I simply don't have the time to learn to work something that causes such difficulty - I know many of the gamers who frequent this forum are much more savvy in terms of using this stuff, but try and remember that we all aren't at levels of technical wizardry.

In all, it looks like a very rushed project - like serving up a raw steak - this is witnessed by the typos in the help file - very sloppy, and a poor representation of million dollar company. I think EA should take the time to remedy this because it is really a poor companion for what is a strong game.

I want you to be able to import an own boot for each player.
A box were you can import a 128x64 pixels bmp...or even better, a 128x128 pixels bmp...

Dear EA,

You suck.

i use it, yes, but it needs some added features.

+player numbers
+captaincy
+team management/lineup

those three alone are absolutely essential. i wouldn't mind seeing more kit options, though. but, kit raptor 2 should solve that.

All of you are forgeting something very important: create totally new strategies. Where is "4-4-2 w/ box in mf" - the most used here in Brazil? Why can't I do my own strategy? And if I want only one wing going to attack?
I want to create my own strategies, put all the players in exact places.

Yeah the creation center is great! It's a great feature.
TOO BAD THERE AINT ONE FOR THE PS2 VERSION OF FIFA 2003! The creation center for FIFA 2002 for PS2 is great. I don't understand why there isn't one for FIFA 2003.

OK I think I`ve read enough. This thread has contain all the CC problems. Now, let`s wait and see will EA really pay attention to our request as customer ? So far not good, there is not yet a fix patch released from them :(

well someone is already working on an easier and effective way of editing with MS Access... can't wait till they are done.... because seriously who here expects EA to do a damn thing for us... they have already released the game and they got their money so why give us a hand with anything.
i do hope I'm wrong though:kader:

Originally posted by Buffon
i do hope I'm wrong though:kader:
I`m now become more and more pesimistic, no, I don`t think you`re wrong.

I'm not using the cc but kitraptor, adraptor and other raptorprograms from fifexpress.
Simply because it's easier to use those programs to import kits with one touch on a button, you can even save the original BMP's quite easily where the cc is more difficult and there is no helpfile to find out how it works!
What i miss with all the programs is a way to give color to the numbers like Barcelona with yellow numbers on the back and so on...
I'm used to work with EAGraph as well and that's the one i use to import .fsh-files into the game.
I did install the cc but now i wonder why really :rolleyes:

Basically, the Creation Centre is good for two things, looking at appearances for editing in Access, and importing your Access edits.

The Creation Centre SHOULD include EVERYTHING that can be edited in Access. This means that those that arent experienced with databases, can still edit the game. I have no problems with the database, but have been using Access for quite a while for other things.

Also, I think that one thing needs to be added, that wasnt included (as far as we can see) in Access and that is team captains.

As for shoe colours, and the like, FIFA 2003 uses a new system where Jewelery, Arm Bands, shoes etc, are all done by the same method as specific faces, so doing different shoe colours would be very hard. But I really think this isnt as important as just having a good roster editor anyway!

Get the Team Formations, and Player Numbers sorted out first!

Cheers
sKIp_E

Originally posted by Goldfish
Study FCDB And Fed well for a week or so, and then try to upgrade the CC. The only plus the CC has over the other two produced by the COMUNITY is that it can export-import ready packages. Evrything else should be like FEd. Team management should be in CC, and we should be able to edit starplayers names and look too, not just all the normal players. For example: Del Piero doesn't have long hair anymore, and I think people should have their god damn right to decide whether they want a longhaired Del Piero or a shorthaired! Players like Cafu also have a first name: Marcos Cafu, Vitor Borba Rivaldo, Da Silva Roberto Carlos. If you don't want or can't write the whole name, let US do it! I undestand the structure of the game is real different and there probably won't be any solution to the formations problems and th number problems, but at least let us edit starplayers! I think that you should have made sure little things like being able to change the team captain and numbes for the players were enabled before putting up this new restrictive structure around this great game! Because Fifa 2003 IS great as it is, but it's betrayal like to offer a possibility to edit the game and then let people find out it's restrictive! Then don't do it at all!

The Formations Problem isnt because of the structure of the game! If it can be fixed with Access, it CAN be fixed with the CC. I know a bit about databases, and know that the CC is basically a program that reads an Access database (hence the access dll file in the CC directory).

As for the Brazilians etc that do have first names, you will find that often their "Common Name" isnt their last or their first name and this is why I believe EA have left their full name out. Some players real names doesnt even include their common name, so for EA to include them all would be silly.

Cheers
sKIp_E

Originally posted by Grassy56

Also, merging packages, try that EA ...

thats my piece :)

Paul u can merge packages.

Use the Import option from the File Menu.

Cheers
sKIp_E ;)

BTW. Matt i voted for the bottom option, because I dont use the CC to edit, but only to import edits Ive made using Access.

Dude, I was just wondering, is it worth it to write down here `bout all the bugs ? You see, it`s been days since you started this thread, yet it seems there`s no response from EA. No official patch is released by them for the CC. It`s not your fault tough, it`s those overpaid programmer deft ear`s fault. Anyway have they E-mailed you again ? I guess I`m not the only one who is expecting some response from EA. And no, we are not talking what do we expect for CC in FIFA 2004, but we`re talking about a fix patch for CC FIFA 2003, tell that to EA ( well, hope they pay attention ).

Further thoughts regarding CC & Fifa 2003 bugs...

(1) It does not seem possible to edit the third kits of teams that begin the game with two. So, while editing any one of the 3 Leeds strips results in its appearance in the game, adding a generic 3rd kit to EC Bahia, will not - despite taking up 30MB of disk space and throwing the squad roster & numbers out of kilter.
(2) EA will have realised by now that the CC does not work - it is not possible to edit teams and not have the rosters/numbers fouled up unless you go through the process with MS Access. But - prior to the commencement of playing a custom league, you can at least go through the teams one at a time and rejiggle them so they are 'set'. It takes about 2 hours for a league of 20 teams and will have to be done afresh every time a new package is reloaded - a time-consuming and utterly unnecessary hassle, but there you go. Only you don't! After playing a couple of games of my new league I noticed in a game against FC Cologne that the goalie, who the CC had rerostered as a striker and who I'd rejiggled back into place, was now back in his wrong place as a striker. Inspection of other squads showed that the team management for one or two other teams had mysteriously re-set itself back to the wrong re-set values. What this means is that THE GAME IS UTTERLY UNEDITABLE. I have tried all ways to get this to work - it's nearly three weeks since I bought the game and I've only just started 'playing' it. EA need to release a patch to fix these issues.

i think EA should give Ariel the job of creating the creation centre

as far as my concern, ea can improve the CC just with expanding the editing possibilities for the team management (lineups, team captains etc.) and players (more hair and facial hair). What also has to be changed in the CC, is that it has to be possible to edit the by ea made players too, because some of them aren't quite right, like Guti (real madrid) and F. Inzaghi (Milan). Further more, enhance or just remove the whole package idea. Because if you change something, you have to save it as a whole new package. When you play the game then, you have lost all your save files, although they are still in the user-map.

And by the way, i didn't notice the loading games in 20 minutes problem, it's just my fast computer I think!!!! I really don't think that ea is going to do something with this, they will read the replies, but I think it's up to us to create a good editor...

could any one please help me installing creation center? i installed correctly as the readme file said but there is still an error.. i use windows98(second edition) is there a special download for it?!

Is I want to be able to view 1st / 2nd Division teams which ge tpromoted at the end of each season, and then, if ea can add a feature which allows us to change a team name, then I can change London to Millwall.

Apart from that all the rest have been said I think.

- Numbers
- Boots
- Etc.

Oh yes thought of another one, why is the 'creation center players' thing a team so that you can't transfer players out of it if they have less than 16 in it. This means you have to clone the player - taking up more room.

One last thing, didn't I hear something about being able to import your own menu music, as only miss dynamite, idlewild and timo mass are any good. But even they're not great. How do I do this, is it a feature of the cc that I havent noticed if not it should be.

Originally posted by sKIp_E
Paul u can merge packages.

Use the Import option from the File Menu.

Cheers
sKIp_E ;)

BTW. Matt i voted for the bottom option, because I dont use the CC to edit, but only to import edits Ive made using Access.

oh :o :p

If you visited FIFA MRA you`ll read this :
"Please note that we are currently aware that some users are experiencing technical problems with the downloading the correct elements of the Creation Centre particularly the different languages. We are currently investigating these problems and implementation of solutions and will update the situation as soon as we possibly can.

Many thanks for your patience.

EA SPORTS

Well what do you guys think ? Another bull****y from EA or this time they`ll keep their promise ? And I don`t like the way they use the word "some", I think all user got the same problems. And it`s not about the language only, there are many other problems that hasn`t been fixed. :mad:

For the people like me who have bought the game with just one
language option to install ( Germany and maybe other lands )
it's the BUG No 1 because I can only use the CC in german.
All downloads made with the English or Spanish CC are not accepted because my game doesn't read the data in these languages.
And 90% of the patches are made in English.
You're right when you say that there are other problems notably the fact that a modified player is considered as new by the CC and therefore making the limit of 600 "new" players available ridiculous.You can update just one or two leagues if you change the attributes of many players.
The in game editor of Fifa 2002 had the same limitations but it was bugs free!
But with the help of Access and the Raptors programs you can achieve by yourself with a little practice and logic, more IMO what an eventual EA patch could make.
I am working with Access since only 3 days and I have no previous experience of this program but I already know that I can edit almost all I want to get my rosters updated and for importing kits the KR is the best !
Because I don't think they want us to have a perfect tool .It is a marketing strategy.

Cheers JM

The creation centre is not a good tool-
Needs a lot of improve because when you change anything all the formations
are messed up, also you can´t change numbers, captains. Some features like import
new specific faces and boots are missing.
Fed and FDCBP were made by ameteurs and were really better than this tool
I hope Ea can change some things and make this tool perfect!

The creation center should'nt be a separate thing that you download from the internet! It should be a part of the game, making it so much easier to use! :fluffy:

FRITT SKÅNE!!!!!

Will there be a Creation Center for the PS2 version of FIFA 2003? If there will be, will I have to purchase the game again just for the Creation Center?

Originally posted by JeffBoy15
Will there be a Creation Center for the PS2 version of FIFA 2003? If there will be, will I have to purchase the game again just for the Creation Center?

no, there will no be a CC for any fifa console game,

aahhhh.... and my opinion of the cc, is like everybody say.....it really sucks!!! I can't edit any Mo$%#@kin team on the game:f***: this really sucks!!
S. CADILHAC plz! bring us fcdb-xp for fifa 2003(H)

well....it's only my opinion

I think the CC is pretty useless the way EA made it. The in-game editor in 2002 was way better because it gave you greater freedom in editing players. If you wanna see what player editing should be like I suggest you check out NBA 2003 where you can edit every single detail.
Moreover I think we should be able to import faces in Fifa as simple as we can do it in NBA and NHL for years.
Not to mention that when I used the CC it totally messed up my rosters a couple of times (goalkeepers suddenly turned into midfielders etc.). Plus it sucked big time that my savegames were deleted after importing a package.
Keep the editor in-game and make some improvements quick!

I got this bug/error with CC for FIFA2003 :
After install the package, i run the game, well im disatisfied with some of my edited players.
So i decided to quit the game and back to CC to modify some of my edited players.
When done, i applied the package to the game (which takes forever).
Once installed and enter the game, i see all the edited players value, drops to $180.000. Some of that players overal skill are up to 90, but the value ??!

This is strange, first installation is OK. But after editing and install again, it ruins the player value/price. It's only happened to me or what?

By the way EA, as the people here before me said, add more stuffs and fix your CC! Like :

Editable player Numbers on their jersey.
Editable player accessories like armbans, stockings, boots, etc...
Add a feature so we can choose the squad captain.
3-D rotate-able view for editing player face and hair in Creation Center.
Fix the inaccurate facial-hair or beard.
Fix the player value/price drop to 180.000 after second editing the package.
Fix the slowdown when loading the game after installing the package.
Fix the freezed/hang like bug when installing the CC-Package.

Come on EA!! Open your eyes! Fans can create editors far more good than yours. But you are the creator of the game!! Or.... are you saying "Let the fans do that, we just simply think about releasing more buggy games in the future so we can obtain more money, hahahhhah!!"

And as for the game itself :

Bring back the Free-View, Rotating and Zooming ability for replays like previous FIFA games.
And fix the stupid Goalkeepers, they can't even catch a very smooth and slow shots. But when i use that "Perfect-Goalkeeper" cheat on the soccer.ini, OK the goalkeepers becomes good, but when Penalty-Shooutout, they saves every shots. If i increase the difficulty, not only the goalkeepers, but the entire opponent squad become Gods.

That's all now from me.

Basically want the same things and would like the same changes... I uninstalled CC right after I tried making an Inter Milan update and it didn't work, CC has just so many bugs its unbelieveable!:kader:

Do i have a different version?

people are saying "you cant edit players" "you cant change players teams"

Well I can and have done so

go to the team you want new player to transfer player to

EG man utd, under the players bit, click edit

then find the new player and in left window and hit transfer, easy as pie

Look at the screenshot here, Mr Henry at Man Utd

There are 2 problems as far as I can see. both aof which have been mentioned before

1) when you make any changes, any temas that you have edited at any point, lose their formations

2) when you make new kits etc, there does not apear to be preview function.


Personlly i was happy just playing the fifa2003 demo till i DLed creatin centre and the very next day I went out and bought the full game, because i liked the scope to customize the game with creation centre.

Now if EA bring out a patch, update to fix the few problems cc has then it will be great

as for those who think that it sucks because you can't transfer players. Please try and do it before you begin to shout and scream and bad mouth my now most used program

Just my two pence worth

for some reason the screenshot wouldnt atach. ill try again here

Just one thing you seem to forget !
As soon as you edit a player he is considered as " New Player ".
As soon as you edit or transfer a player from a team ,this team is
considered as " New team ". Check out the property of your package to verify this. And the CC admit only 600 new players and
60 new teams,which means that you are very limited in your editing.
just to calm your enthusiasm.

Cheers JM

Maybe EA can put an option in EACC to change the number of the players, their nationality and why not the ability to change the name of the players directly without having to create a similar one !!! Because if we create a new one to replace it, we loose comments !

An other thing that can be good is to give us the possibility to import comments for the players and the teams.

Other thing : How to import the kits selection menu pictures ?? Maybe EA have to think about this point too !!

The idea is great, cause I'd really make some modifications (like Mutu in Parma team) but the little problem is that it doesn't work!

I've WXP and after having installed it, I tried to import the fifa data with the command in start menu but...
I recived a C++ debug error!!! :f***:

Sorry guys, but u have to work on it a little more.

BTW if it'd work I'd use it for sure, so keep hard!!!

Bye

Well it sounds like the CC sucks big time i wouldnt know because i cant use it.I ran the english.exe and i ran the art.exe but some error keeps coming up that says it need 32 bit color to run??

The fartest thing i can go up to is 24 bit is this an error because i installed something wrong or what??I just got the game today very fun but the EA Gguys just happened to forget to add some very important peaple to the roster.

Can someone tell me how to fix this or at least point me to where i can get some help.


**Lets all hope someone saves us and makes a better editor**

Originally posted by ahmedkkk
Well it sounds like the CC sucks big time i wouldnt know because i cant use it.I ran the english.exe and i ran the art.exe but some error keeps coming up that says it need 32 bit color to run??

The fartest thing i can go up to is 24 bit is this an error because i installed something wrong or what??I just got the game today very fun but the EA Gguys just happened to forget to add some very important peaple to the roster.

Can someone tell me how to fix this or at least point me to where i can get some help.


its cause your grafix card is ****.

you cant fix it, buy a new grafix card.

this isn't support thread, a comments thread.

goto the CC forum if you want help about it.

Is there a secret to DLing the CC ?! I have been trying for week's. It keeps stoping after only a couple a meg's and giving me a zip file that's 'incomplete'??:f***:

Originally posted by schils
Is there a secret to DLing the CC ?! I have been trying for week's. It keeps stoping after only a couple a meg's and giving me a zip file that's 'incomplete'??:f***:

Use a download accelerator/manager that supports resuming.

I can recommend FlashGet.

Download Accelerator is bettor adn the reports have proven it, it has everything for your downloading pleasures;) :rockman:

EA wants my reaction on how CC is?
I can tell them my reaction: *AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGHHHHH*
I really hate this program! It is as useless as Sammy Kuffour for Bayern Munich...I think this says it all.
Also, I think CC should be able to:
1) Allow the editor to edit away a l l players and teams
2) Be user-friendly. I guess all of you nearly went mad after seeing the user-platform and the "logic" behind the packages, that shall be installed.
3) Let me finally play FIFA again! After installing CC, my FIFA now always shows no players' or teams' names. I reinstalled FIFA 3 times, but it still doesn't work.

Shame, shame, EA...let PRO'S like Chung Lee [hope I spelt it right] make Editors. They know, how to do this.

Ciao, V|rus

I installed CC, but i can't make it start ! every time i try to run it, i see the message :
"runtime error '-2147417848 (80010108) automation error'

what should i do? what could cause the problem? plz help me

I think they got enough reaction already on how crap it is, unfortunately... it was looking at being such a good program but it's absolute cack, please sort it EA so we can edit EVERYTHING after all, I paid for it, and so did many others, some probably didnt but... we deserve that we are able to edit things that we want, it makes patch makers lives easier too!

Well, EA, you can just look at this thread, and the whole CC forum, to see how many problems there are, and how ppl feel.

I have always been reasonable about your marketing strategies and things that you leave out and things that you include, but with the CC, I simply gave up after 1 hour of it. You know what, I found hex editing better than using the CC, and I didn't even know much about the .dbi format before the CC was released. I found that I stood a better chance of editing something, by cracking the .dbi format than waiting on some fantasy Creation Centre which will do its job.

Many ppl will disagree with me on this, but I just really feel like saying: DON'T BOTHER! with a new version of CC. Because every time, you try to make things easier, you just seem to make things harder. I think you should just hire some freelance person, or an independent company to make an editor, because from past experience, I don't think you have the personnel to do it. I hope I get my message across. And I really do hope you put CUSTOMERS in front of any other issues, because otherwise, it's going to reach a state of no return.

I am very displeased with the CC, as you can see.

look,i don't have time to read all the previous posts,all i want to sya is that it's a good forward step for the FIFA series that EA decided to have custom bodies(armbands,ear-rings,eyes etc.) for each player(or at least each...),but i think that it would be a lot better if evry player could have his own specific boot,as a additional texture near the face and eye textures in a single file,for example.That would be great!If EA can do that throught correcting the CC the the game would be perfect.Now,if EA could do something about the boot mirroring problem,then........I would kiss EA's ass :D

cheers.

Want changes for FIFA2003 not 2004, many people have great ideas and make sum excellent patches, EA should they find it not cost-effective to do themselves, should commision these patchers to assist, or alllow them to make tools like the CC with EA's help, review those patch makers material, modifiy it as they see it appropriate then release it, b/c we all know EA can't be bothered (not good business sense it's thought) to make modifications to already released games, so use the effort that enthusiastic forum members make (e.g. Chau li's FED and others like FCDB) then all the EA FIFA series team need do is modify it accordingly.


Creation Centre is a great idea, it MUST not be scrapped in the next FIFA game [i as well as others find it extremely ANNOYING when a good thing is in one FIFA game, then is left out of the next - like the multi-user teams in Tournaments like season and custom cups, and gameplay aspects like curving the ball, IN in one edition, out in the next...its got to stop. Bad porgramming, or lack of though may flaw the idea or not make it work as well as is conceivable or plausible for use by customers, but instead of remove it in the next edition, correct the bugs and improve it (another e.g. was the setpiece movements in FIFA2k/2k1 and the in-game strategy), the Creation Centre must be improved not removed


Take on-board the suggestions people make and modify the Creation Centre, don't scrap it, its good work,or the idea of it is good, as it frees up space for more features to be included in-game as well.

Create a SEASON EDITOR, - now i spent a few hours outlining the format of a possible season editor which could be on the menu of the Creation CEntre and/or take the form of a MICROSOFT setup WIZARD. - The season editor would allow users to construct season games with relatviely limitless flexibility, so they could create any combination of cups and leagues, and play them on their own or with friends with any number of user teams. (the limit set as usual..i.e. by the porduct's stated minimum PC requirements i.e. the minimum is a 350MHz processor, i.e. it is conceivable that having 100 user teams and 1000leagues would not be feasible for such a machine with only 64MB or RAM to run on as the loading and showing results would simply take to long.)

Constructing your own season could highly enhance longevity of the game and sustain interest for longer periods of time as playing for purpose, long ones at that is quite addictive with all the elements already in the game, with this it could even almost rivals championship manager for addictivenes. In my outline, i suggest some of the things you would be able to create would allow you to play the games using teams in several leagues, like the English, German and Italian leagues or any user-created competition combo (leagues, cups, tournaments), as well as compete in shared competitions like the users own version of the Champions League or say, their created British cup.

Let me explain by giving this EXAMPLE: in my created season, i can have user teams such as Arsenal, Deportivol la coruna and AC Milan, the leagues in my season would or could be the English premiership, Italian Seria A and Spanish La Liga, in addition, i could have user created leagues like the League of Wales, Ireland and use the in-game league of Scotland. as cups, i would have the English FA Cup, the Italian and Spanish league cups, and a custom created British cup, Champions League and UEFA cup as well as a created Worthington Cup which i could associate only with the English League, but associate my British cup with the League of Wales, England, Scotland and Ireland. In this season editor I would even be able to assign the winner of the British club a place in the Champions League if I want, or decide it only goes to winners of the leagues of the three user teams, or/and winner of other leagues not directly involved (like the bundesliga and french league as Arsenal,Dep and Milan my user teams aren't in those leagues ) would be in this case. So the users of the three teams above, would play in their leagues and the assocaited competition cups I asssociate that league or team to. i.e. the user of Arsenal will play the English league, teh FA Cup, my created Worthington Cup, my created British Cup, my created champions league and /or UEFA cup, in the editor, i would be able to set the criteria for entry into any of these competitions. Also you could arrange your fixture list or have the editor do it based on certain availble criteria it would provide.

Of course selecting the user team is one of the last things to be done, and can take place in-game rather than CC level, as which teams i choose as usesr would depend on whether that team is represented in one of the compeititons(leagues,cups or tournaments) used in the season's construction.

It sounds easy on first thought, a little more thought might show it too complex, but detailed thought will show that such a thing is quite easily achievable and shouldn't take more than a day in feasibility assement, layout planning, and initial design. The detailed design, implementation, testing and distribution is what would porbably take a little while a month at most. I will post the layout i thought out, and a quick examination of it will show the possibilities of such a tool. In effect you could have say up to an 8-year long season campaign, with up to "X" number of user teams playing in "Y" number of competitions (such as leagues, cups and tournaments) The fixture list could be very lengthy if the numbers are large but a limit should off course be set for playablitiy by a user with the lowest specification PC , but it will certainly keep users playing or trying to complete their SEASON competitions for a while, up to a year at least, by which time off course FIFA 2004 would be out, providing newer possiblities and challenges as well as new graphics, better gameplay (with the good things of 2003 kept, the bad ones lost and new ones included hopefully).



ONe last thing, FIFA always has a lot more possiblities than the manual suggest, the game could sell more and be more enjoyable if it was made clear some of the things you could do.

And can u not do what i call quick substitiution during a match, using one of the "F" keys to make the substition (F2 for e.g.), but rather than the menu coming up, user need only type in the shirt number of the player they want off the field, followed by the shirt number of the player they want on.
[this idea obviously forces users to be more aware of the team they are using if they want to use this function effectively, and this would get them more involved in the game, making it more addictive,b/c already this would be a new challenge, one further strengthening their enjoyability because when in real life they watch a game, they would be able to recognise players by thier numbers, it will simply draw them more in football media and more into the game.

I use the Creation Center for mostly patches and creating players. One of the features it should have is being able to edit your on virtual face instead of a made up one. Many people want to put their face in the game not a genetic made up player. Being able to import the made up file, of the picture face into the Creation Center would be helpful.

Also one major improvement on the Creation Center would be a Preview Option of how a player,face,kit etc.. would look before it's saved and uploaded to the game. It is very frustrating going back and forth trying to get it perfect.....

I cant use it..........cause it says I need 32 bit.........I dont have that,......so is there a way that I can use it??? I want to edit tactics in the game....and more formations.......there is no other way in the game other than the CC???

Yo mate,

you can download ECP Access Editor, FMBR Access Editor or another Access Editor form most of the sites ! It's better, EACC sucks and is **** !!!!

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these things i say should be taken into consideration by easports
The new official creation centre should have the following enabled:
1.it should be able to edit the player no.s, boots, captainship,nationality,player name(audio) importer
2.it should mainly include creatable special moves and creatable
intros after scoring goals (for example the ones that ronaldo raul etc have)
3.it should not damage any part of the game (formations)
4.it should contain more faces with skin colour and facial hair
5.there should also be a palm editor like the ones in the textue
6.there should be stadium editors
7.and a easy and undertale help file

:f***: Here is the most important features of the next version of EACC :

Users can :

- Edit player's name, number, nationality, Short name in the back of the kits.
- Choose the team's captain.
- Import player's face.
- Possibility to modify the starting line-up of teams.
- Possibility to modify the budget of teams.
- Import and export player and team name in audio format.
- Import the 6 flags, the 2 logos in bmp format.
- Import the menu-kits, menu-logos and in-games logos (for teams and leagues) in png format.
- Ability to see 2nd division teams as well as cup and others competitions.
- Ability to create league with first division, second division and cup. Like an original league.
- Ability to create custom cup like Euro 2004 with more groups and a possibility to create groups and maybe (why not) the possibility to play Euro after qualifying.
- Import own stadium for each teams (because we already have to replace).
- Maybe add all the templates of kits (Nike, Adidas, Puma, Kappa, etc.) and also all coloured templates (Red, Blue, Green, etc.).
- Add a special utility to make menu-kits with only kit textures.
- And sure ability to import files from every Creation Center version (I use french one and I can't import English files).

If EA can make all those changes, nobody won't beat them in Editor making.
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every time i start CC it ends up not responding and I have to Quit out, It has been installed correctly

I wish u could upload the data without it deleting ur saved games.

I haven't had any problems with this version(apart from my saved games being deleted). It works fantasticaly for what its been made to do.. but it just hasn't been made to do alot, if EA are to make a second version they should add some of these features..
-Importing kits with the one single .bmp file like you do with kit raptor.
-Change goalie kits
-Change the kit preview of the team when selecting the kit before a match.
-Change player numbers.
-Importing new faces and boots to the chosen players.
-Make new leagues so you can be able to be promoted and relegated through 2 differen't leagues.
-More generic kit types.
-More faces.
-Change the balls and flags.

I Loved the creation center, finally EA allow players to create new teams and players from scratch instead of edit existent ones. To be a 3D graphics manipulator, is very easy to use and understand.

Now, I would like people on EA Sports and the forum to check this questions, concerning the few problems I have had with the program.

1.- Why the text does not appear, or even the flags when choosing sides in-game? I read somewere that is because of the languaje... If this is so... Are you going to create a Creation Centre in every languaje, or are you going to create a patch to fix this problem?

2.- In created teams, cant you see the actual art of the uniforms when choosing, you MUST see the one-colored shirt only?

3.- Why the user can't choose the number of the players? They are choosed alphabetically.


Thanks for your help,

Enrique S. Lores

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