Is it just me or are all his goals from no more than 8 yards from the goal. He's so predictable you'd think managers would tell the defence to just mark Man U's widemen to stop the supply. He cannot create many chances for himself and relies on giggs and beckham/solkjaer too much. And don't get me wrong he's a world class striker but I find him tedious and boring to watch.
Now Ronaldo, Shevchenko, Del Piero Henry these guys are superior, they explode into matches and are great to watch. And don't say Henry is not a natural goal scorer 'cos who finished top scorer last season.

Come on! :D I really start to doubt your footballing knowledge.
The thing about good strikers is the way they get rid of their defenders at the right moment. About scoring from close range: I remember a goal he scored at PSV from just past the middle line: Is that close too?! :D
Van Nistelrooy has also great vision and is able to dribble very well. I remember an almost goal against brasil in 1999 when he past four defenders and only failed to score because he wanted to do it nicely with a backheel :)
I hope this answers your questions? ;)

So, yes, it is you...

He is boring at Man U, I see him go past one player then dive. He dives every match and is nearly as poor at headering a ball as Henry.

Bergkamp is the Dutch Master Ruuds got nothing on him.

You're a bit of a dumbass. Henry creates more chances for himself, I guess that is correct. But Van Nistelrooij created at least two chances for himslef last night against Depor. He was fauled once and didn't get the penalty. He may score from close range, but you have to be there. To be there is a quality as well. It's about vision. And so what if he realies on his wingers and midfielders, that's what they ar ethere for right. Transporting the ball from defence to attack. Van Nistelrooij is the best finisher in the business today. He might not set up as many chances the way Bergkamp or Henry does, he just scores them all himself! And how can you say that he is boring to watch, he scored four goals yesterday! How boring is that! Those players you named may be a bit more creative, but Ruud scores a lot more. Also don't forget that this is Van Nistelrooij SECOND season at a big club, he will grow and learn. He will learn how to provide others, and his workrate is so good that our defending starts with him.

-> Gooner: Bergkamp is still better, but for the remaining you have a very biased opinion. I bet you would say he is great if he played for Arsenal.
I have seen not a single dive when he scored twice vs Deportivo.
Don't think I am a Man Utd fan: I am Dutch and I don't really care about what English team is better.
I just conclude that you are either very biased or you don't understand what is asked from a real striker.

I can feel the bitterness in this thread. :rolleyes:

I think Van Nistelrooy's goal per game ratio speaks for itself, which I believe is the best in the premier league, and is superior to Henry's. 18 goals in 19 champions league appearances? He's obviously a very predictable and talentless striker because he hasn't got 19/19. :rolleyes:

Every goal counts there matey. I do believe that he played a part in both goals against the team that wasn't going to lose another match ever. He sets them up, can create chances for himself and can score from more than 8 yards out.

His header yesterday was very poor.

Pull your head out of your ass. :rolleyes:

He's not bad, just repetetive he waits in the box boots the ball in the goal, all boring goals. His movements good but all he does is wait around in the box he's just plain boring - gary neville was more exciting when he broke forward.

And did anyone see van nistelrooy punch Ljungberg last season in the match arsenal won the premiership, he punched him right in the gut.

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
He is boring at Man U, I see him go past one player then dive. He dives every match and is nearly as poor at headering a ball as Henry.

Bergkamp is the Dutch Master Ruuds got nothing on him.

WTF! You can't be boring if you're CL topscorer in two seasons. ANd bagging over 50 goals for the club in a season. He isn't a diver, you're just like Wenger "I'd rather have Jeffers for 9m then Ruud for 19m". Damn you're ignorant.

Van Nistelrooij a bad header? Did you just know how many goals he has scored with his head? He's a good header, look at the goal last night, that was pure class.

Why is it that everybody always wants to compare Ruud with Henry or any other striker. And to compare him with Bergkamp is even more stupid. Bergkamp and Ruud are so different. Bergkamp can never score the amount of goals Ruud can. On the other hand Ruud isn't a passer and creator like Bergkamp. Why compare them. You're just another sad Arsenal fan trying to bring down Van Nistelrooij. Go ahead, be ignorant.... We know his value to us. Look at his statistics and silently bow down.

did u see the header he missed?

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
did u see the header he missed?

Players miss, look at Henry in his last 2 matches. :rolleyes:

Anyone see Keown punch Van Nistelrooy last weekend? Anyone see Bergkamp stamp on the Blackburn player a few games ago? Anyone see Henry kick Mexes in the head when they were on the floor in the CL a couple of months ago?

Look. Bergkamps a fantastic player, Henry is a fantastic player and Van Nistelrooy is a fantastic player. A goal from 1yrd out counts as much as a goal from 50yrds out. The only reason you find Van Nistelrooy boring is because he convincingly made monkeys out of Cygan and Keown (who looks like a monkey anyway - is he related to GWB? :D ) last weekend. And your believe too much of what the bitter Thunderbird puppet that is Wenger says.

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
did u see the header he missed?

Yes I did. Did you see the one he scored?

OFF TOPIC: Is that avater the late great Kurt Cobain? You must be a Nirvana fan since your name is love_buzz.. (H) :rockman:

lol! it's obviously not enough for a player to bang away goals anymore (which funnily enough seems to help win championships), they have to do it in a 'particular' way!

and all this time i thought strikers were hired to score goals.

the only reason i mentioned him punching ljungberg is because not one other person ever mentioned it and i thought that maybe it only appeared on my tv screen.

And I'm not calling ruud a bad player but everyone says 'look at him he's the best player ever' but to be honest he isn't a great footballer but a great finisher.
And why do people compare him to van basten?
Van Basten had pace, agility and was superior to any striker in history.

To describe Van Nistelrooy, I would simply like to use a phrase I heard Arsene Wenger(of all ppl) say before:Ruud is a fox in the box=>I think thats what AW wanted Jeffers to be like.

And of course he relies on service from Beckham/Ole and Giggs, that is their job. They create the chances and the strikers are supposed to finish them off.

So what if it is boring? The only thing that matters is the result. If it is boring for you, then dont watch it!!

And you cant compare Ruud to Bergkamp, cause Bergkamp prefers playing in a supporting role just behind the strikers whereas Ruud is an out-and-out striker.

just go back watching ur Aresnal playing, leave us Man Utd fans alone:confused: :p :hump:

Originally posted by precise
And of course he relies on service from Beckham/Ole and Giggs, that is their job. They create the chances and the strikers are supposed to finish them off.

So what if it is boring? The only thing that matters is the result. If it is boring for you, then dont watch it!!

And you cant compare Ruud to Bergkamp, cause Bergkamp prefers playing in a supporting role just behind the strikers whereas Ruud is an out-and-out striker.
Couldn`t say ut better myself, I bet those Arsenal and Liverpool fans always wanted Ruud to play in their team, like we always dreamin` about Henry and Owen plus Ruud in ours.

sorry 4 dissin ruud but he is ruining arsenal's chance of 'dominance' and if someone does that I'd prefer it to be an exciting player not a predictive player who scores 30 tap ins a season and nothing more

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
sorry 4 dissin ruud but he is ruining arsenal's chance of 'dominance' and .........

that's ur real problem mate!:crazyboy:
the rest which u make out to be ur problem aint actually ur problem. take it from me. and then........ and then 'U SHUT UP!!':f***:

The real problem is hes a selfish, over praised, goat faced gimp that wears a shirt i wouldn't wipe my arse on, and to be honest chelsea are a bigger threat to arsenals crown.
Hasselbaink is miles better than ruud.

dont get me posted a 2-page-long post here...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
The real problem is hes a selfish, over praised, goat faced gimp that wears a shirt i wouldn't wipe my arse on, and to be honest chelsea are a bigger threat to arsenals crown.
Hasselbaink is miles better than ruud.
So you`re saying, if you get a very nice cross from Beckham or Giggs or a very nice through balls and you`re in clear, noone is near, the goal is wide and big, you`ll pass it to another teammate ? :crazyboy:

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
The real problem is hes a selfish, over praised, goat faced gimp that wears a shirt i wouldn't wipe my arse on, and to be honest chelsea are a bigger threat to arsenals crown.


No mate, that is your problem.

The real problem is that you should be minding more about how Arsenal are doing, instead of where Ruud Van Nistelrooy scores his goals from.

im sick and tired of hearing people say that a scorer is bad because he cant create his own chances. A scorer is meant to shoot the ball and score, and to help the team obviously. I ll take for example Martin Palermo, people said he was the worst scorer ever seen, but he was the best at scoring, he is the top scorer of the 90s in argentina, the top scorer of all argentinas tournaments, he made 2 goals vs real madrid in a cup, call him a bad player, but he was the best scorer

If Ruud scores, this makes a him a great player, because he is really good in what he is meant to do:crazyboy:

Great player but boring

Boring? I guess u didnt see the goal against Basel did u?? RVN is the best striker out there.......

Selfish? I guess u didnt see the game against Arsenal neither...He created those 2 chances for Man U to score.....:p

Boring? I guess you didn't see the game against Basel, where he beat three defenders on his own, in the middle of the pitch, which in case you didn't know is harder to do instead of pushing wide to the wing. Did you see his link-up with Solskjaer in the Newcastle game, and his overall unselfish play outside the box? What about the long shot against Arsenal and again against Deportivo? Oh that's right, you had you head up your ***all that time. It's either that, or you're Arsene Wenger in disguise. Then again, it's the same thing in the end.

against basel when he took on three just b4 he lost the ball he dived for a free kick too lazy to accelerate a little further and he handballed against arsenal and scholes made the goal

hey, LOVE_BUZZ i think ur being biased unconsciously as u dont seem to be a bad guy to talk to.

take a sincere suggestion from me: stop posting in this thread...start somewhere else in the forum... otherwise we Man Utd fans wont let u get away that easily...:confused: :p ;)

can i delete this thread?

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
can i delete this thread?

nape:|

i just like post some emotional expressions sometimes, dont get serious(H)

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
he handballed against arsenal

That was the ref's fault.

You dont expect RVN to stop and admitted that he handballed do you? I am sure Henry or any other Arsenal player would also continue play if the same thing happened to them.

Ruud admitted to the ball hitting his arm but he said it was unintentional. That's why the ref allowed him to go on.

van Nistelrooy is not boring to watch at all. I remember Smith who played for Arsenal up front also scored plenty of tap ins. As does:

Lineker, Fowler, Shearer, Rossi, Batistuta, Inzaghi, Ian Wright, Owen, etc.

Every striker scores their fair share of 'easy' goals. It's one thing scoring easy goals, it's another altogether to get there to score it.

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
Great player but boring
Explain that to me as if I`m a four year old. Boring ? Let me tell you that there are many other player that bores me. Remember del Piero during 1999/2000, how many goals he got ? Ten, not bad, but 80 percent of it came from penalties !!!!! And Inzaghi, look at him during his Juve days, everytime I saw him, he`s always raising his hand ready for a run to chase a through ball. Beside, Ruud is Dutch, I`ve never seen any Dutch player plays boring football ( well, except when that pathetic van Gaal coached them ).

well, except when that pathetic van Gaal coached them

He might be pathetic now but he did some great things with Ajax back in 1995, about RvN i've seen him play for heerenveen a couple off years ago and i think he's a great teamplayer, has a great game attitude and i think that's also important for a player

Originally posted by LOVE_BUZZ
Great player but boring

Look @sshole, the only thing who's boring here is you ok!
No one wants to hear about your opinion anyway and since United wiped Arsenal away last weekend you got no right to say ANYTHING about Ruud!!
The only one who's a gimp with a shirt on is you ok.
You are really out to start something here because it hurts so much that you lost last weekend... and you want to insult every ManU fan here. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen is the saying here and I would advise you to take it to heart becuase juvinile and pointless threads are not appreciated here.
I never saw Henry score goals in more than 5 successive games like Ruud did.
You are just a jealous little git, now run along cuz mummy is calling.

Idiot :crazyboy:

If Ruud is 'boring' then so is Henry. I mean, every time he gets the ball he just poses danger, and if that's not boring I don't know what is. If he starts being crap, then he might not be boring.

But then he'll be crap…

Oh, never mind. :(