Lets get something strait here. You Europeans seem to think that the reason that good players go to play in Europe is because your football is so much better than everyone else's. You are VERY wrong. The reason is that in Europe, players get payed in Dollars, where as in their home countries,they would get paid the national country's currency. I think its safe to say that anybody would rather get paid in dollars than in some other currency. So THAT is why some go to Europe. Not because your football is the best(its not by the way) Its not because your football is more popular(its not that either) its because of MONEY. BUT, even money is becoming less of a worry these days. Most star players playing in Europe are wanting to return to their countries. Ronaldo says he wants to go back to Brazil and play for the top clubs there as soon as possible. Taffarel wants to leave Turkey and go back to Brazil because of religious reasons(he wants to come to Atletico Mineiro by the way...GO GALO!!) Players like Romario,Bebeto,and Edmundo have already gone back to Brazil. I could go on forever. The point is that most of these players that are super stars and play in Europe are REALLY wanting to go back to Brazil,or wherever they came from. So you Europeans stop acting all cockey thinking your footie is sooooo GREAT. The rest of the world is sick of your stupid remarks.

You know man , I'm sick of you people saying that Brazil is the best ,Brazil players are so great and they are much better than european players. Do i have to remind how poor where the brazilians against France in WC final . And France is by far not the strongest side in Europe . Also why is that european countries have many more WC titles than south-american . So it is obvious that european football is better. You must face it . South America has some great players like Ronaldo,Romario,Batistuta,Rivaldo but they don't make their whole football much better.In fact they are most of all individuals . And also the good players come in Europe not only for the money . If you haven't noticed most of them are stars only in their countries and nobody knows them from outside . And so they come in Europe to turn into real stars. So please ,spare us the long speeches about how great Brazil players are. I agree that they are great , but don't think they are the greatest. And also why Romario went back to Brazil? Cos nobody could stand him. There is something called discipline that he just couldn't understand (maybe he got too old for the action ,too but you will never agree). Thank You.

Are you an IDIOT?? Europe has more WC titles than South America!?!? Brazil is the ONLY team to win 4 world cups, and the ONLY one to participate in EVERY World Cup EVER!!! Europe has MANY more teams than South America does,and if you ever studied probabiliy in math class, you will know the odds are much greater for a Eurpean team to win the WC. And Romario is not old and lacking disipline. You just cant admit that the best player in the world at the time spit in your cockey European face and went to play in S.America. Learn someting about soccer before you come around trying to talk like you know so much. I bet you cant even name 1 team from Brazil can you? So shut up!! And Thank YOU!!

It's football,not soccer.

Brazilian football averages 50 fouls a match.
Cleber, Junior Baiano, Marcelinho Carioca are just a few of the butchers. Every time a promising move developes an outstreched leg or arm appears and down goes the man on the ball. This is killing what used to be the beautiful game. I love Brazilian football but its getting hard to watch with all the fouling going on.

Oh i don't know Brazilian teams ? How could i when you keep talking about them. Don't you have any other interests than Brazilian football. Galo , you must be a BIG IDIOT if you think that in football the quantity makes the quality . Do you really think that european countries have more cups only because they're more . ( You must think that if there is a league with English Tird Division teams and three Premiership teams a Third division team will win only beacuse the odds . Don't take it personal , but think before speaking such nonsense . And Romario's carrier was going down ,he couldn't find a good team and that's why he returned. If you don't agree you are gust not listening man .I can do nothing for you . Thank YOU very much.

Let's put it this way: Europeans and Brazillians get different info. Bad info on Brazillian players here? In Brasil they turn it into good info. And vice versa.

The reason why Brasil has the most attendencies is because the competition in European is bigger. More countries who are equal.

Concerning those big Brasil stars: Romario had no discipline, getting older etc. Ronaldo still plays a nice game but isn't the Ronaldo he used to be. BUT, also the dollars part is true. But it's a fact that 'big' players in Brasil get world famous in Europe. Anyway, seems both sides are right here in some ways... http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif


Grts 'n Stuff...

Hey Galo you need to come down, take a deep breath. You come from a country that is phuqed up in many ways but is very passionate about its football. You create many good players and teams but your league is a shambles, your players leave for Europe (partly for money, partly to go to another country which you should know about, and also to play in the best leagues in the World). The best of the South Americans along with the best from Europe make Italy and Spains leagues the best. If all our best went to Brazil or Argentina then you would have the best but they don't. Just relax, lose your grudge and enjoy the football.

This is a very nice discussion here.Nice civilized language with plenty of arguments.

(yeah right)!!!!!

Here's the final mark: Let's wait until NOVEMBER 30th and watch PALMEIRASxs****** man utd.

Galo, grow up ya child.

Why Southamerican players go to Europe?
Money, money...money money.
I think that there's no doubt about it.

calm down galo....it doesnt worth the fight

Frankly, I couldn't care less. That's NOT because I'm American. It's more because it's altogether too hard to compare football in South America and in Europe, for the following reasons:

1) European and South American sides do not play each other with enough freqency to make any kind of judgment. The only time national sides from the two continents play meaningful matches is in the World Cup - almost all other matches are, by and large, friendlies. Clubs from the two continents, besides friendlies, play only the Intercontinental Cup - which both Real Madrid and Vasco da Gama openly admitted last year that they were treating as a friendly, nothing more.

2) As Galo said, Europe has the money. European clubs tend to be stronger mostly because they have the cash that attracts not only European stars but the cream of South America, Africa, and increasingly, North America and Asia. With the great number of South Americans playing in Europe in particular, one cannot use the strength of European clubs to make an argument.

3) Europe has more countries than South America, and a greater total population. To make a fair comparison, one would have to compare a country or region in Europe to one with a similar population in South America. Likewise, Brazil, being as populous as it is, cannot realistically be compared to any single European nation. IMHO, Argentina vs. Spain or England comes across as being quite a fair comparison. We note here that the sides appear quite evenly matched. Argentina needed penalty kicks to beat England in the World Cup.

4) Almost every Brazilian is convinced that Brazil has the best national side. Almost every Italian considers Italy stronger, and almost every English fan (who hasn't seen the Euro qualifying standings recently) considers England stronger still. Let's not leave out Mexico, which STILL hasn't lost at Estadio Azteca since 1983. Many Mexicans are fanatics, no less. Rants by football fans in any country are rarely even-handed.

Very well put Elninho. Glad to see that there is a good mind on this forum.

England don't even control their own fate. Even so, I hope Sweden wins and England gets drawn against Scotland. That would be an awesome match. I honestly think Scotland would come out on top too, based on England's current form.

Haha I remember before when the english press wrote how bad the swedish players was
and now they are kissing ass because they need us to win. Haha I hope we lose against
Poland cause we are already qualified!

I was actually in london when Scotland played england at Euro 96 and even though we lost it was still an experience walking around in me Scotland top and kilt, its always a buzz to play against the auld enemy and to put them out of a major tournament would be pure dead brilliant.

OK... some of you guys say players get played in dollars.. ok thats right.. but SO WHAT??? Now football is almost all about the money. The get much money and European soccer is much better because of that!

Ciao