Is it something real or more of an ideal we strive for and convince ourselves of?

Is it possible to love more than one person (non-family, of the opposite sex) at once?

Should humans be monogomous?

edit: Why so many divorces?


If people get into this, I'll just make another thread for the monogomy/divorce topic.

i have no idea but isnt this one of those non-answerable questions, i have no idea :confused: very good question:o

Love is a wonderful feeling although it is hyped up by what we see....and perceive love to be.

i don't think its possible to truly love two different people at the same time....at least i coudn't !

Monogamy would be rather boring :p but seriously it is the ideal way of life imo. Divorce is too simple these days and the concept of "I still love my wife but i want to stay a billion miles away from her while i do her sister" is retarded...

Originally posted by IceBlu
Divorce is too simple these days and the concept of "I still love my wife but i want to stay a billion miles away from her while i do her sister" is retarded...


retarded......but common :read: :brow: :hump: :mrpimp:

Is love the strongest feeling? Hard to say, isn't it? Revenge, at times, could be stronger, yes, but love can soothe revenge, like a wave destroys a sand castle - first, it blurs the shapes into one undefinable mass, then, as other waves embrace it, slowly, they level the castle to the ground, without leaving traces that it ever was there.
What the hell am I talking about? :|

Anyway, I believe the strongest feeling is passion, but it has, by nature and definition, a limited duration. Even now, I feel that I love someone, but I'm passionate about another girl (which is a very facked up situation). Never thought that could happen (at least to me), but it can.
I can definitely imagine someone loving 2 separate persons, but for different reasons, ie, having different types of love towards each one.

Should humans be monogamous? Probably. Are humans monogamous? No. Women, for reasons well known, have tried to make us, men, believe we are, and I understand and even agree with those reasons, but we're not. Even those who don't cheat have a natural impulse to do it. If they don't, that's because of:
a) religious reasons.
b) familiar reasons.
c) respect towards the wife/gf/children.
I can't say I cheated, but that was because of c).

To start off, whatever I say is of course going to be culturally-specific, so here goes.

To me, 'love' is a word that over time has become bastardised throuh overuse and generalisation. As we know, there are all sorts of 'love', so I guess wqhat you are getting at here is 'romantic' love. Now 'romantic love' has only really existed as a concept for about 100 years, and at the same time has been collapsed into the ideal of marriage. As we know marriage before this time was more to do with property relations and extending family influence, 'romantic love' for the other person didn't even come into the equation. But now we have a whole industry built around the 'love ideal', I mean the price of roses is always some stupid percentage higher in price in the week leading up to Feb 14.

So basically marriage, love and monogamy are three separate issues that have become conflated into one. We have confused 'romantic love' with 'sex', which has been conflated into marriage, which in the West is premised on monogamy. Now I think it is a nonsense to remain sexually exclusive to one person if it only occurs as a result of feelings of obligation. Sure, if you REALLY WANT to be monogomous, then that is fine. But if you spend your whole time in denial, then that is ultimately destructive. I for the most part have been monogomous when in a realtionship, but there have been exceptions. And this is where INFESTA's comments about passion come in. Because if I feel passionate about someone, then I am going to follow it through. And as far as I am concerned, yes you can be passionate (or feel 'romantic love') for more than one person. Because people are all different, and are going to trigger different feelings and responses in you. So why should we deny one set of feelings at the expense of the other?

I also do not buy into any of the vatious arguments that exist about monogamy, i.e. women are monogamous creatures while men want to sow their seeds etc. To me all those arguments based on nature are bull****, we are not 'meant' to be anything. It is all about the social practices that form these types of relationships, there is no 'natural' basis to it. And these social practices change throughout history. There are so many divorces now imo because of the fact that 'romantic love' (and by correlation monogamy) has become the ideal standard by which marriage is judged. And this will inevitably fail because our needs and wants change over time, unless 1. we find substitutes within that relationship or 2. we look elsewhere.

Basically, I think my ideas on the temporality of love and relationships are best summarised in this quote from Nietzsche:

"We are friends and have grown distant from one another. But it is right that it should be so; let us not dissemble and obscure it, as if it were something to be ashamed of. We are two ships, each of which has its destination and its course; our paths can cross and we can celebrate a feast together, as we did -- and then the brave ships lay so peacefully in one harbour and under one sun that it might seem they had already reached their destination and both one destination. But then the almight power of our task again drove us apart, to different seas and different climes, and perhaps we shall never see on another again -- or perhaps if we do we shall not recognize one another: different seas and sun have changed us! that we had to grow distant from one another is the law over us [...] There is probably a tremendous invisible curve and star orbit within which our so different paths and destinations may be included as tiny stretches of the way -- let us raise ourselves to this thought!" - Fredrich Nietzsche.

Insightful stuff guys.

Don't have time to write anything now (off to coach). I feel similar to Rhizome and Hugo.

Originally posted by rhizome17
Basically, I think my ideas on the temporality of love and relationships are best summarised in this quote from Nietzsche:

"We are friends and have grown distant from one another. But it is right that it should be so; let us not dissemble and obscure it, as if it were something to be ashamed of. We are two ships, each of which has its destination and its course; our paths can cross and we can celebrate a feast together, as we did -- and then the brave ships lay so peacefully in one harbour and under one sun that it might seem they had already reached their destination and both one destination. But then the almight power of our task again drove us apart, to different seas and different climes, and perhaps we shall never see on another again -- or perhaps if we do we shall not recognize one another: different seas and sun have changed us! that we had to grow distant from one another is the law over us [...] There is probably a tremendous invisible curve and star orbit within which our so different paths and destinations may be included as tiny stretches of the way -- let us raise ourselves to this thought!" - Fredrich Nietzsche.

That is so beautiful. Is it from a book? I want to read it!

Funny, I wrote a letter to a girl, about 1 month ago, talking about the same issue, love and passion, and I used a similar analogy, with harbours and ships.

Oh my God, I can`t believe this !!!! C`mon we`re all men here, why talking about topics that is so sentimental ??? Well speaking of love, wheter it`s the strongest thing or not, I still think that money always rules . . . Yeah with money you can buy all the love you need . . .

Originally posted by Hans
Oh my God, I can`t believe this !!!! C`mon we`re all men here, why talking about topics that is so sentimental ??? Well speaking of love, wheter it`s the strongest thing or not, I still think that money always rules . . . Yeah with money you can buy all the love you need . . .

You just don't want to talk about your homosexual affairs and having gaynal. That's fine by be...

Originally posted by Hans
Oh my God, I can`t believe this !!!! C`mon we`re all men here, why talking about topics that is so sentimental ??? Well speaking of love, wheter it`s the strongest thing or not, I still think that money always rules . . . Yeah with money you can buy all the love you need . . .


Just because we are guys, it doesnt mean that we cant love, and have feelings, and thoughts on this kind of area.
Just because you still havnt matured and liek to sit discussing penis sizes with your "mates" down the pub, before dropping em on the count of three, coz ur all pissed! - We're not all like you (although i know many on my rugby team who still are :rolleyes: ).

I was enjoying reading this thread until you came along and stuck your nose in it. If you dont like what we are talking about, fair enough , **** off , and dont post here!

I think this threas is great, and I will post my comments on love later ;)

Hey Hans
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Originally posted by Hans
Oh my God, I can`t believe this !!!! C`mon we`re all men here, why talking about topics that is so sentimental ??? Well speaking of love, wheter it`s the strongest thing or not, I still think that money always rules . . . Yeah with money you can buy all the love you need . . .
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shocking comment of the day !!
maybe you'll change mind the day you fall in love with someone.
Everything else doesn't matter, the only that really counts is that she (or he for some) is happy and keeps a smile on her (or his) face.

There's the girls you meet and wtay with for only a fotnight. Sure that's a lot of fun,
but then there's the one you fall in love with

as Huey Lewis would say:
you don't need no credit card to ride this train
that's the power of love

Originally posted by Joe
You just don't want to talk about your homosexual affairs and having gaynal. That's fine by be...
Haha, gaynal....:)

And, yet again, I'm checking this thread on my break (School) so I don't have much time to write much.


Sensing an apology or absense of hans.


The Beatles expressed their feelings pretty well:


LOVE, LOVE, LOVE,
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE,
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE.

THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO THAT CAN'T BE DONE,
NOTHING YOU CAN SING THAT CAN'T BE SUNG.
NOTHING YOU CAN SAY BUT YOU CAN LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE GAME.
IT'S EASY.

NOTHING YOU CAN MAKE THAT CAN'T BE MADE,
NO ONE YOU CAN SAVE THAT CAN'T BE SAVED.
NOTHING YOU CAN DO BUT YOU CAN LEARN HOW TO BE YOU IN TIME.
IT'S EASY.

ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE,
ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE,
ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, LOVE,
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED.

LOVE, LOVE, LOVE,
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE,
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE.

ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, (ho!)
ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, (hey!)
ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, LOVE,
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED.

NOTHING YOU CAN KNOW THAT ISN'T KNOWN,
NOTHING YOU CAN SEE THAT ISN'T SHOWN.
THERE'S NOWHERE YOU CAN BE THAT ISN'T WHERE YOU MEANT TO BE.
IT'S EASY.

ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE,
ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE,
ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, LOVE,
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED.

ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, (all together now)
ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, (ev'rybody)
ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, LOVE,
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED.

LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED, HO! (love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)

LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED (love is all you need)
YO HO! - YIPPEE!
IS ALL YOU NEED,
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED, (love is all)
YESTERDAY... (love is all)
OH! (love is all)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED,
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED, (oh yeah!)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED.

SHE LOVES YOU, (love is all)
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, (love is all)
SHE LOVES YOU, (love is all)
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. (love is all)

(love is all you need)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED, (oh ho!)
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED. (oh ho!)
(love is all you need)

OH!
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED,
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED.


Agree?


Is Love a clearly defined line... like... "yep.. that's it, I'm now officially in love", or is it a little arbitrary?

Originally posted by Number9
Just because we are guys, it doesnt mean that we cant love, and have feelings, and thoughts on this kind of area.
Just because you still havnt matured and liek to sit discussing penis sizes with your "mates" down the pub, before dropping em on the count of three, coz ur all pissed! - We're not all like you (although i know many on my rugby team who still are :rolleyes: ).

I was enjoying reading this thread until you came along and stuck your nose in it. If you dont like what we are talking about, fair enough , **** off , and dont post here!

I think this threas is great, and I will post my comments on love later ;)
You don`t have to be so rude, I can stuck my nose in every thread I want, and free to write down my opinion. The problem is, as I can see you`re all to young to understand what love is all about, even my older friends can`t describe it. To read some of the post here which are very poetic, really reminds me of how naive I was back during my teen days. I mean come on think with your logic, after all guys have more logic than women ( this is true, I`m not being sexist . . . ), could you pay your food with love ? Could you pay your bill with love ? Could you get a hot babe only with love ? No way, you need green cash for all that. As you all get older you`ll learn that no girl will love you for what you are. They will love you for your achievement, for the hard-work you`ve done to get yourself and your pair some money, to live. I`m not trying to sound like a grandpa or something, but that is the true, you can ask for some older members that have been maried, do they really need only love to make a happy familly ? No way . . . Love is essentially basic, but without money . . . welcome to the 21st century brother, money do rules here . . . You can say about how ignorant or how sceptical I am, but as time goes by, you`ll learn that what I said is true, there`s no such thing as true love . . .

There's nothing to understand about love. It just is. It can make you feel higher than the highest and lower than the lowest.

I can't answer your questions LaBrujita, except to say are your feelings real?

We all can see that Hans loves money.

I think love is something that grows over time.

I have a friend who just got a girl friend and she sends text messages to his phone that say "I love you", and he got mad at me cuz i said:

"Bulls***!, she doesnt love you, you just dont wake up one morning and you're in love, she might be highly esteemed of you but thats about it for now"

I think if their relationship lasts for a year or so then maybe its love then because they have stayed together, but she cant say she "loves him" after being together for 2 days.

Love is a wonderul thing

Just like IceBlu said its not what media and people hype it to be

It was the best thing in the world but you don't halucinate, like shown in television etc :p

I have been going out with my Girlfriend for almost 2 years
1st of March being our anneversary

Love is tremendous and I feel that if it is real love you don't need to be in love with anyone else

I would describe it as "Being enfatuated by someone" no matter what they do, not matter how they act or anything that is annoying, you won't get angery or feel any differently about the person.

This is how I feel I love my Girlfriend

Originally posted by Hans
You don`t have to be so rude, I can stuck my nose in every thread I want, and free to write down my opinion. The problem is, as I can see you`re all to young to understand what love is all about, even my older friends can`t describe it. To read some of the post here which are very poetic, really reminds me of how naive I was back during my teen days. I mean come on think with your logic, after all guys have more logic than women ( this is true, I`m not being sexist . . . ), could you pay your food with love ? Could you pay your bill with love ? Could you get a hot babe only with love ? No way, you need green cash for all that. As you all get older you`ll learn that no girl will love you for what you are. They will love you for your achievement, for the hard-work you`ve done to get yourself and your pair some money, to live. I`m not trying to sound like a grandpa or something, but that is the true, you can ask for some older members that have been maried, do they really need only love to make a happy familly ? No way . . . Love is essentially basic, but without money . . . welcome to the 21st century brother, money do rules here . . . You can say about how ignorant or how sceptical I am, but as time goes by, you`ll learn that what I said is true, there`s no such thing as true love . . .

My girlfreind isn't after my money all though i did bye her an expensive Christmas present #:p

I'm only 16 so really i don't know the true meaning of love yet

Originally posted by #1 Stunna

I think if their relationship lasts for a year or so then maybe its love then because they have stayed together, but she cant say she "loves him" after being together for 2 days.
no that might be a bit premature.
But you can easily fall in love after a few months maybe even one.

Love is very powerfull though, if feelings are mutual it can make you high as a kite
if not depression will loom.
I was well fond of this gal last year, and when I found out she already had someone and she told me she couldn't leave I felt well down for a long time :(

Originally posted by Hans
You don`t have to be so rude, I can stuck my nose in every thread I want, and free to write down my opinion. The problem is, as I can see you`re all to young to understand what love is all about, even my older friends can`t describe it. To read some of the post here which are very poetic, really reminds me of how naive I was back during my teen days. I mean come on think with your logic, after all guys have more logic than women ( this is true, I`m not being sexist . . . ), could you pay your food with love ? Could you pay your bill with love ? Could you get a hot babe only with love ? No way, you need green cash for all that. As you all get older you`ll learn that no girl will love you for what you are. They will love you for your achievement, for the hard-work you`ve done to get yourself and your pair some money, to live. I`m not trying to sound like a grandpa or something, but that is the true, you can ask for some older members that have been maried, do they really need only love to make a happy familly ? No way . . . Love is essentially basic, but without money . . . welcome to the 21st century brother, money do rules here . . . You can say about how ignorant or how sceptical I am, but as time goes by, you`ll learn that what I said is true, there`s no such thing as true love . . .

Look mate, it is a long time since I was a teenager, so I wouldn't go presuming things. And without love, or 'passion' (a better word) then money isn't going to get you anywhere. In the years AFTER I was a teenager, I can say there has been three women who have truly loved me, and all three still do even though I am not in a relationship with any of them. Two of them i was in a 'relationship' with for two years. Yes, when things are tough you do wish there was a bit more money to go around. But you don't break up when the money runs out (that would reveal how shallow you both are), you break up when the passion runs out. So if anyone here does think that Hans might be heading in the right direction (which thankfully it doesn't look like) well my advice is to just ignore him.

And you are wrong that men are more logical than women Hans, you are buying into the whole 'Men are from Mars' claptrap that has no basis in scholarly study. It is no more than an ideological attempt to pin down women in their 'nurturing' roles and promote men as the 'provider', ideas that belong in the 19th century, if not before. The sooner you start respecting people as individuals the better. YOU ARE BEING SEXIST.

And as I have got older, I have learned that YOU ARE more likely to find someone who loves you for what you are, rather than some superficial version of whatever you make yourself out to be. Ask all three of the women I referred to earlier, and I can guarantee that none of them would say they loved me for my money, after all that would be a bit difficult given that there wasn't any:brow: show me a rich student.

Love (or passion) can be found anywhere, anytime, and for different reasons. All three of the women in question are at least 8 years older than me, so according to your logic would know more about Love than I do (unless they are not being logical:brow: ). So how is it that they love me, and I don't have the cash that you seem to think is so important? Or maybe they were sick and tired of the money-hungry cynics their own age who had forgotten about passion....

btw Hugo, the quotation comes from a collection of aphorisms by Nietzsche, the title of which eludes me at present. I have always tried to bear that particular quote in mind when a relationship is coming to an end, if you know what I mean.

Originally posted by Hans
Oh my God, I can`t believe this !!!! C`mon we`re all men here, why talking about topics that is so sentimental ??? Well speaking of love, wheter it`s the strongest thing or not, I still think that money always rules . . . Yeah with money you can buy all the love you need . . .

stfu u ****ed up piece of ****

Originally posted by rhizome17
btw Hugo, the quotation comes from a collection of aphorisms by Nietzsche, the title of which eludes me at present. I have always tried to bear that particular quote in mind when a relationship is coming to an end, if you know what I mean.

It's a great quote, indeed. If the title does come to you, please post it or pm me. Yes, I do know what you mean; that's why I wrote something similar to that girl... I'm in the process of trying to forget that ship ever existed.:crazyboy: :(



"Love is what remains after the passion is gone."

... it can be plenty or none, but always different from the initial passionate phase.


My dad is a bit more cynical than me and says that:

"Affection is what remains after love is gone."


Anyone agree with those 2 sentences?

Originally posted by Hans
Oh my God, I can`t believe this !!!! C`mon we`re all men here, why talking about topics that is so sentimental ??? Well speaking of love, wheter it`s the strongest thing or not, I still think that money always rules . . . Yeah with money you can buy all the love you need . . .

whoa there macho-boy :confused: :kader:

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
I think love is something that grows over time.

I have a friend who just got a girl friend and she sends text messages to his phone that say "I love you", and he got mad at me cuz i said:

"Bulls***!, she doesnt love you, you just dont wake up one morning and you're in love, she might be highly esteemed of you but thats about it for now"

I think if their relationship lasts for a year or so then maybe its love then because they have stayed together, but she cant say she "loves him" after being together for 2 days.
That's right along the lines that I think. I find it...a little premature and false when couples start saying "I love you" everytime they say goodbye after dating for a couple days or a week or whatever.
I am just in the beginning of a relationship and I'm yet to utter those words. It may get me in trouble, but I'm not going to say something that I don't mean (or am not sure of yet).


Hans... it says in your profile that you're 21. Hmm.... seems weird that you were trying to sound as if you were in your 50's and we were all 12.


I'll ask again:
Is Love a clearly defined line... like... "yep.. that's it, I'm now officially in love", or is it a little more arbitrary?

Originally posted by LaBrujita
That's right along the lines that I think. I find it...a little premature and false when couples start saying "I love you" everytime they say goodbye after dating for a couple days or a week or whatever.
I am just in the beginning of a relationship and I'm yet to utter those words. It may get me in trouble, but I'm not going to say something that I don't mean (or am not sure of yet).

Yeah, I act like you and #1 Stunna. I only said "I love you" to 2 women: with the first girl, I was young and confused love with infatuation. With the second girl, the only one I truly loved, I was sleeping with her, in her house, about 7 months after we started dating, and I woke up at around 4am and realized I loved her. I don't know, it's different. You really care for her, sort of put her needs above yours, you feel more complete, sort of like in passion, but more stable and less crazy. I then woke her up and said "I think I love you." She replied "I think I love you, too."
And there you go, a Kodak moment! :D

That sort of gives my take on LB's Q.

Originally posted by LaBrujita
I'll ask again:
Is Love a clearly defined line... like... "yep.. that's it, I'm now officially in love", or is it a little more arbitrary?

Without much experience here.............

I'd say that it would have to 'arbitrary'. Love would not really have confines or boundaries where it begins and ends. I think it is farcical that perhaps a relationship passes a line from attraction to love, whether or not a person may feel stronger at one time compared to another does not matter as it would likely be a gradual process.

People may realise that their feelings are developing in regards to another person. You would hope that often there is a profound understanding between the two, and not one person, for then that cannot be defined as love. At one stage in the budding relationship, the pair may take their feelings 'further' and that may be the occurence that signifies the understanding that they are in 'love'.

If there is such a sensation known as love (I cannot confirm or deny it as I have not experienced it) it would not be a swift transition from just any old relationship to a possible life-long bond. Such a mystic human value such as love is indefinable in relation to human comprehension of the dimension known as time.

That felt like one of those "Jerry Final Thought" segments.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by K-Man
whoa there macho-boy :confused: :kader:

lol

yea he is a tough guy

Originally posted by Juventus_theres_next_year
That felt like one of those "Jerry Final Thought" segments.:rolleyes:
Haha, just as I read your last sentence (before this one) I was thinking that exact thing.

INFESTA
I then woke her up and said "I think I love you." She replied "I think I love you, too."
And there you go, a Kodak moment!

I need a kleenex:$

btw JTNY, very well said/spoken(H)

Sometimes it's that one thing that she does, which is really truly nothing, that just kills me. And it hits me right their, at that very moment. I'm in love with this girl.

Love is a hard thing to explain.

Originally posted by INFESTA
It's a great quote, indeed. If the title does come to you, please post it or pm me. Yes, I do know what you mean; that's why I wrote something similar to that girl... I'm in the process of trying to forget that ship ever existed.:crazyboy: :(



"Love is what remains after the passion is gone."

... it can be plenty or none, but always different from the initial passionate phase.


My dad is a bit more cynical than me and says that:

"Affection is what remains after love is gone."


Anyone agree with those 2 sentences?

Yeah sure I am doing a search of all my shelves of books looking for it, I might have passed it on to someone, who knows, but I shall find out...

But yes, I agree with the first statement especially. It is always different after that initial phase. And there are so many people that go bouncing from one person to another just to keep that initial phase thing going. It is nice though (H) .

As for affection, I dunno, kind of depends on the person and the circumstances I guess.

As for Evans comments, I think it is more a process than a clearly defined line. I never ever said the three magic words unless I really thought it meant something to me, otherwise I would cringe.Trouble is, there is always the crucial difference between the 'I love you' and the 'I am IN love with you' business as well. I might not be making sense on that one? :confused: But I have found that the first one has less significance for a woman than the second...

Originally posted by yoyo_911
stfu u ****ed up piece of ****
That`s pathetically funny how you always accuse me for being imature while yourself replied with such words. Look at the other replies, they`re all decent and reasonable.

Rhizome, everything I wrote was based on my personal experience, I don`t know, but different people give different judgement. Anyway you gave a good argument there and I respect it, but it won`t change my mind ( and I know you didn`t try to :) )

Originally posted by Hans
Rhizome, everything I wrote was based on my personal experience, I don`t know, but different people give different judgement. Anyway you gave a good argument there and I respect it, but it won`t change my mind ( and I know you didn`t try to :) )

Thats ok, you can work while the rest of us are lovin':p

Ahh love i like to think of it as if it were a rose...amazingly beautiful yet full of thorns that could leave scars on your heart!
I think love is a beautiful think if you get to experience it to its fullest, but it sure is hard to maintain!

Originally posted by LaBrujita
I need a kleenex:$

Well, I told it the way it happened. It was a very special moment. I doubt I'll ever top that one, in terms of declaring my love towards another girl.

And now, to take away all the magic, I'll tell you that while I was writing that post and those lines, I was on the phone with that very same girl. She was having one of those typical women talks ("And then she said blabla"), and I was giving her the typical male answers ("Yes", "sure", "agree"), and was rather focusing on the post itself. I'm getting so cynical about love, lately...

Originally posted by Hans
That`s pathetically funny how you always accuse me for being imature while yourself replied with such words. Look at the other replies, they`re all decent and reasonable.

Rhizome, everything I wrote was based on my personal experience, I don`t know, but different people give different judgement. Anyway you gave a good argument there and I respect it, but it won`t change my mind ( and I know you didn`t try to :) )

I was pissed at ur thread

u r too dumb dude... :nape:

Originally posted by INFESTA
I'm getting so cynical about love, lately...

I am there at the moment :( and have been for awhile.

Originally posted by Hans
Oh my God, I can`t believe this !!!! C`mon we`re all men here, why talking about topics that is so sentimental ??? Well speaking of love, wheter it`s the strongest thing or not, I still think that money always rules . . . Yeah with money you can buy all the love you need . . .

bwa you disgust me macho boy :S

Originally posted by INFESTA
Well, I told it the way it happened. It was a very special moment. I doubt I'll ever top that one, in terms of declaring my love towards another girl.
I was serious, though in a semi-humorous way.


I'm getting so cynical about love, lately...
Yah, I've always been there, somehow. Got someone attempting to change that though.... so we'll see;)

ive been in love with the same girl for 6 years nothings changed. i can love her more but never less.its so complicated. and to answer if u cant love 2 people at once you cant. because you just cant. people since the beginning of life have been always trying to be a part of something or need the feel to ownership of something. i guess this is why we love and love makes these ownership or being a part of something feelings fullfiled. i leave it to you guys i dont have any words to explain.

Originally posted by Sukur54
because you just cant.
Well you've got me convinced:confused:

Originally posted by LaBrujita
Well you've got me convinced:confused:

fall in love and youll see what i mean unless ur in love already that is ;)

Originally posted by Sukur54
fall in love and youll see what i mean unless ur in love already that is ;)
I know what you meant, I was just saying that for the sake of it.;)

how many words are there in other languages for love?

I know the Greeks have eros, agape & philia, it just seems as though we're cramming so many different kinds of feelings towards others into one mass-produced word.

i love soccer

Originally posted by Perles
how many words are there in other languages for love?

I know the Greeks have eros, agape & philia, it just seems as though we're cramming so many different kinds of feelings towards others into one mass-produced word.

i love soccer
This is a very good point... don't let the thread die so early.

Now its time for hitman's opinon on love :D . Not long ago we had this guy explain to us what he thinks love is. Many people say "in love," but do you say "I'm out of love?" People also say "I'm falling in love," but did you ever here of a person say "I'm falling out of love." So this person says that love is the choice ( of a person) that you want him/her to be happy thorughout your life.

Examples like people killing someone, because he/him loved another person doesn't really tell us that, that person loved him/her. People say sex is love, but that IS THE REASON PEOPLE ARE GOING CRAZY. Like for example, a person cheating on someone and then that person finds out and wants to hurt him/her, because of betrayal doesn't tell us that, that person didn't love her.

Love is a choice of a person who you want him/her to be happy and it needs to be both partners. That is true love, through this story I got from this person who teached me a valuable lesson for my future.

SEX IS NOT LOVE, SEX IS WHAT DRIVES US CRAZY TO DO BAD STUFF IF ONE OF THE PARTNERS SCREWS UP (e.x cheating) AND THE FEELING OF VENGEANCE IS MORE POWERFULL IN THAT PERSON.



Final note: If anyone wondered where i was. Well i was in Mexico and had the time of my life. When i got back home I got a very sweet suprise. In the mail i got a letter from The National Honor Roll of the United States. "Honoring America's Most Outstanding Students" , which says i got a prestigious award and I will be in the book when they publish it of my academic achievement, so everyone? Arent ya proud of me?;) (H)

Originally posted by Hitman47
so everyone? Arent ya proud of me?;) (H)

we were, or would have been if u had stayed in Mexico.

Note to Hugo:

The book is just called Collected Writings: Friedrich Nietzsche

It is just a collection of aphorisms from a number of his books, grouped by topic (e.g. morality, power etc.). The one I used was in the miscellaneous section, where there is a small group of thoughts on friendship.

Note to LaBrujita:

So, any more thoughts on this topic, now you have had a week or so???

Originally posted by rhizome17

Note to LaBrujita:

So, any more thoughts on this topic, now you have had a week or so???
Haha. Sorry (to you guys and myself). Been waiting for some inspiration to respond to this thread and the unanswered questions thread...it just hasn't come though.

I'm off to Mexico on Sunday for a week. So, I'll look for inspiration there (the literal inspiration, not a symbolic female form) and drop into an internet cafe if I don't have something sooner.

Been really busy with school (see reason above).

Originally posted by rhizome17
Note to Hugo:

The book is just called Collected Writings: Friedrich Nietzsche

It is just a collection of aphorisms from a number of his books, grouped by topic (e.g. morality, power etc.). The one I used was in the miscellaneous section, where there is a small group of thoughts on friendship.



Thanks a lot, Aaron! :)