Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of its bottle?
Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes?
If you're in a vehicle going the speed of light, what happens when you turn on the headlights?
If it's zero degrees outside today and it's supposed to be twice as cold tomorrow, how cold is it going to be?
You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes? Why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance?
When sign makers go on strike, is anything written on their signs?

post urs



:mrpimp:

Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of its bottle?
Because its on that little stick thing that rolls up.

Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes?
Coz its easier to put it on than control a parachute. What's the use of a parachute when you are landing on water anyway?

If you're in a vehicle going the speed of light, what happens when you turn on the headlights?
:| You are still going at speed of light

If it's zero degrees outside today and it's supposed to be twice as cold tomorrow, how cold is it going to be?
a little cold

You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes? Why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance?
Because it's not the kind of material you would want to make a plane of....

When sign makers go on strike, is anything written on their signs?
yes :crazyboy:

:mrpimp:

Originally posted by K-Man

You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes? Why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance?
Because it's not the kind of material you would want to make a plane of....



Nope .. Becuz it would be too heavy and the Plane would not be able to rise (H) :p

Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of its bottle?
It does.


Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes?
The Earth's surface is mostly water, so chances higher that you will hit water, not land.

If you're in a vehicle going the speed of light, what happens when you turn on the headlights?
A) That's not possible (yet).
B) Light would still be travelling at you, so...

If it's zero degrees outside today and it's supposed to be twice as cold tomorrow, how cold is it going to be?
Depends whether you're talking Farenheit or Celsius, absolute zero or 0 zero.
No one would say that anyways.
Or maybe you'd have to compare it to the day before or some normal or mean temperature, and say "well it went from 5 degrees ("normal") to zero, so twice as "cold" would be -5 tomorrow."

You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes? Why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance?
Probably something to do with expense, weight, malleability, density to make it "indestructible", size obviously, or something like one of those.

When sign makers go on strike, is anything written on their signs?
Yes, but it would be quite the paradox.



mine:

What's the meaning of life?

How big is the universe, exactly, and when did it start and when will it end?

Is there a god and/or gods?

Will the world end in December of 2012?

Is there intelligent life out there?

Will you die tomorrow?

Why bother?

Who cares?

Lior's not answering, so I'm telling the jokes here.

What's the difference between a catholic girl and a jewish?
The Catholic has real orgasms and fake jewelry.

When can we be sure that a woman will say something clever?
When she starts with "A man told me that".

Who shot JFK?

What's the meaning of life?
42

How big is the universe, exactly, and when did it start and when will it end?
Hmm... I think it's also 42.

Is there a god and/or gods?
If there is/are then it's/they're not doing much.

Will the world end in December of 2012?
I doubt it since the entire planet isn't on the same time frame.

Is there intelligent life out there?
I'm more worried about there being intelligent life here

Will you die tomorrow?
Hopefully not.

Why bother?
Because no one else does.

Who cares?
Who knows?

Originally posted by INFESTA
What's the difference between a catholic girl and a jewish?
The Catholic has real orgasms and fake jewelry.

The best pro-Catholic arguement yet! :hump:

Originally posted by Savo
Nope .. Becuz it would be too heavy and the Plane would not be able to rise

my point exactly (H)

you wouldnt want to make a plane out of that material because it would be too heavy to rise :p......
________

Will the world end in December of 2012?

is there a specific reason why u chose that year and month? :confused:

Is there intelligent life out there?

im pretty sure there is.....

There are hundreds/thousands/millions of other solar systems out there, so why would we be so unique?

I doubt that Earth is the only place where life exists in the entire universe.... nah, thats impossible.... :mrpimp: :)

I wonder, how do we know the universe is infinite? I mean, it's not like someone went out there and took a stroll around it to make sure.

Will the world end in December of 2012?

Well, isn't that when the Mayan calandar ends? Apparently the Mayan astrological calendar has been right about a lot of things, including accurate prediction of recent El Nino's, so I've heard. Maybe they're right about this too!?

Is there intelligent life out there?

I beleive there is, however I also can accept that maybe there isn't any intellegent life but us. It's unlikely, but I beleive that it's very possible that life begining on Earth was just such an incredible accident or coincidence, that it never happened anywhere else in the universe.

How big is the universe, exactly, and when did it start and when will it end?

Ah, a question I've often pondered but have a lot of trouble grasping. Well, the Big Bang theory suggests that the universe did have a begining, is ever expanding, and will eventually have an end...but what I have trouble imagining is, if the universe did start at some point, just what the hell was there before?? Nothing? :confused:

Another thing I wonder is...does the universe actually stop somewhere? like if you could travel at warp speed in one direction for billions and billions of years, where would you end up? Is there eventually a wall or something that all of THIS in encased in?:o

What do vegetarians feed their dogs? :S

Originally posted by K-Man

Will the world end in December of 2012?

is there a specific reason why u chose that year and month? :confused:

The Myan calendar says that will be the end of the earth. (BTW December is a month, not a specific time, the planet is all in December for most of it's duration). Their calendar system is about 1,000 times more accurate and comprehesive than the Christian/Western one. It has continued to accurately predict solar eclipses, among other things, thousands of years after their extinction.


Is there intelligent life out there?

im pretty sure there is.....

There are hundreds/thousands/millions of other solar systems out there, so why would we be so unique?

I doubt that Earth is the only place where life exists in the entire universe.... nah, thats impossible.... :mrpimp: :)
But can anyone answer this question? No.


Will the world end in December of 2012?

Well, isn't that when the Mayan calandar ends? Apparently the Mayan astrological calendar has been right about a lot of things, including accurate prediction of recent El Nino's, so I've heard. Maybe they're right about this too!?
exactly


Is there intelligent life out there?

I beleive there is, however I also can accept that maybe there isn't any intellegent life but us. It's unlikely, but I beleive that it's very possible that life begining on Earth was just such an incredible accident or coincidence, that it never happened anywhere else in the universe.
If you think of the trillions and trillions of ways the Universe could have formed and shaped, it took trillions of trillions of exact events to happen just right to create what eventually turned into "life". I'd say the possibility is equal in either direction. Chances are, however, if there is other "life" it is probably in some irrecognizable form - whether it's seemingly superior or inferior "life".

How big is the universe, exactly, and when did it start and when will it end?

Ah, a question I've often pondered but have a lot of trouble grasping. Well, the Big Bang theory suggests that the universe did have a begining, is ever expanding, and will eventually have an end...but what I have trouble imagining is, if the universe did start at some point, just what the hell was there before?? Nothing?
Another thing I wonder is...does the universe actually stop somewhere? like if you could travel at warp speed in one direction for billions and billions of years, where would you end up? Is there eventually a wall or something that all of THIS in encased in?
You should read "The Universe in a Nutshell" by Stephen Hawking.
It is believed that the universe started as one singularity..... which went "bang" and created the universe. Through studying background radiation of space, scientists can "see" the universe as it once was (because it takes so long for the light to get here), so they have an idea of the size it once was, and what it probably is now.
As most of us "know", the theory is that the universe is still expanding. From that though, there is one theory which suggests the expansion will continue on and on until all the stars have burnt out and everything is so far a part it just becomes a barren nothingness. The other theory is the "Big Crunch" theory. You can probably guess what that is: The expansion is slowing, and the various forces in the universe, it will begin to retract, faster, faster, and still faster until... crunch, it becomes a singularity again.:confused:

The universe is big.....really freaking big......it may or may not bend into a 12 dimensional form.....there may or may not be worm holes to jump from twist to twist...........time may or may not be a linear dimension, it may actually be the same as any other spacial dimension.........no one knows for sure.

I wonder, how do we know the universe is infinite? I mean, it's not like someone went out there and took a stroll around it to make sure.
I don't think most people do think it's infinite, do they? Infinity....well...it hurts.
Whatever its size is, I don't think we can now, and maybe never will be able to, comprehend its shape or size.


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I remember when I was quite a bit younger I pondered things like this. I used to think that to us, maybe the universe is so incredibly large and incomprehendable it may as well be considered infinite. But, what if you stepped outside our universe, and all the universe was was an electron in orbit within an atom. So our "infinite" universe is a subatomic particle in another universe... maybe a parallel universe but in a different time or with a different twist.... who knows.

Originally posted by ::shinji::

Is there eventually a wall or something that all of THIS in encased in?:o

If so, what is on the other side of the wall or outside of the case :S :| ???

Originally posted by LaBrujita
It is believed that the universe started as one singularity..... which went "bang" and created the universe. Through studying background radiation of space, scientists can "see" the universe as it once was (because it takes so long for the light to get here), so they have an idea of the size it once was, and what it probably is now.

As most of us "know", the theory is that the universe is still expanding. From that though, there is one theory which suggests the expansion will continue on and on until all the stars have burnt out and everything is so far a part it just becomes a barren nothingness. The other theory is the "Big Crunch" theory. You can probably guess what that is: The expansion is slowing, and the various forces in the universe, it will begin to retract, faster, faster, and still faster until... crunch, it becomes a singularity again.:confused:
Thanks mate, you have saved me the bother of a really big post. ;)

I can't remember how fast the Universe is believed to be expanding. The point I'm thinking of though, is that the Universe could be expanding faster than or as fast as we could possibly ever travel, in a 3D sense, and therefore it could be considered infinite as we would never reach the boundaries, whatever they may be. What would being able to use other dimensions make possible though?

I think there is still some debate over whether the Universe will continue to expand forever, or whether it will eventually expend all of it's energy and contract.

I also watched a tv program not so long ago that explained the theory of the 12th dimension. It's difficult to explain, although LaBrujita made a good attempt (below), I'll have to read up on it to get it clear in my mind. All I'll say at the moment is that there was a collision between dimensions that caused the big bang, and is causing big bangs as we speak.

The universe is big.....really freaking big......it may or may not bend into a 12 dimensional form.....there may or may not be worm holes to jump from twist to twist...........time may or may not be a linear dimension, it may actually be the same as any other spacial dimension.........no one knows for sure.

I remember when I was quite a bit younger I pondered things like this. I used to think that to us, maybe the universe is so incredibly large and incomprehendable it may as well be considered infinite. But, what if you stepped outside our universe, and all the universe was was an electron in orbit within an atom. So our "infinite" universe is a subatomic particle in another universe... maybe a parallel universe but in a different time or with a different twist.... who knows.
This is one thing that I too have often thought about. It's like those recursive pictures you see of someone standing in front of a photo, which is this photo. Maybe we are a Universe inside another Universe inside another Universe... and there are Universes inside this Universe and Universes within them, and on and on and on?

This sort of stuff really interests me.

Originally posted by LaBrujita
But, what if you stepped outside our universe, and all the universe was was an electron in orbit within an atom. So our "infinite" universe is a subatomic particle in another universe... maybe a parallel universe but in a different time or with a different twist.... who knows.

Eheh, I used to think that too. Never thought someone else out there would get the same crazy idea... Hey, that's already 3 of us with the same instinct. Hmm...

Now, one real thing we should consider, is that microscopic beings, hell, even insects like ants, etc., have no perception of our existence. We're so big to them that they're perfectly unaware of us... One could argue that it's because of their (lack of) intelligence and brains, but, come on, even my neighbour knows I exist. :|

Actually, I've thought of something along those lines too, regarding scale that is. One of the things that always annoy me about the majority of science fiction movies is that whenever we encounter 'aliens', they're almost always generally the same scale as we are....who's to say that like you guys say, maybe we're microscopic to other beings out there...or perhaps there's a tiny pebble out there in space the size of a grain of sand that just happens to be a planet with beings far more advanced than we are?


It really blows my mind when I think about the universe and why are we here...makes us seem so insignificant in the greater scheme of things. Makes you wonder why we've made life on Earth for ourselves so complicated..

Why does it say"May Cause Drowsiness" on bottles of sleeping pills?

Originally posted by jackie4
Why does it say"May Cause Drowsiness" on bottles of sleeping pills?
in case u didnt know:crazyboy:

Originally posted by INFESTA
Eheh, I used to think that too. Never thought someone else out there would get the same crazy idea...


I can say I was thinking about it too (first time I remember I was 7:crazyboy: ) but its nothing special - all these theories's been writen down and discussed million times hundreds years ago.

My question is: WHAT'S THE POINT OF THESE QUESTIONS?

Its not like we'll get any anwsers. Thats why I hate philosophy. It's just the most stupid domain - thousand years old and so far it produced millions of questions and not a single anwser :rolleyes:

SO Wisla Krakow! Its not as if we'll get any answers to these questions?!!!

Well, heres the answer toi why glue doesnt stick to the inside of tube.

Glue isnt adhesive until it is exposed to oxygen therefore cannot be sticky until it leaves the tube.

Originally posted by jackie4
SO Wisla Krakow! Its not as if we'll get any answers to these questions?!!!

Well, heres the answer toi why glue doesnt stick to the inside of tube.

Glue isnt adhesive until it is exposed to oxygen therefore cannot be sticky until it leaves the tube.

I was talking about more ontological and existential questions ;) I dont think Plato was bothered by the glue :mrpimp:

Originally posted by monkee

This is one thing that I too have often thought about. It's like those recursive pictures you see of someone standing in front of a photo, which is this photo. Maybe we are a Universe inside another Universe inside another Universe... and there are Universes inside this Universe and Universes within them, and on and on and on?

This sort of stuff really interests me.
Yah, exactly what I was getting at.

It is difficult to explain, although LaBrujita made a good attempt (below)
Wasn't much of an explanation attempt, more of an attempt to confuse people:D


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Now, one real thing we should consider, is that microscopic beings, hell, even insects like ants, etc., have no perception of our existence. We're so big to them that they're perfectly unaware of us... One could argue that it's because of their (lack of) intelligence and brains, but, come on, even my neighbour knows I exist
Something relating to this which I have thought about is the concept of ....well... personal concept of time.

Like to us, mice, for example, move very very sporatically and quickly. They look like they are constantly hyper active and jittery. But, time is relative, and we would most likely seem like we're in slow motion. So, if you took that on a bigger scale, our universe could simply be a spec of dust falling from a ceiling and we could hit the floor any time. To the "people" of that universe, we are just an insignificant spec that lasts a few seconds, while to us it's an infinite universe lasting billions of (relative to us) years before we hit hte floor and are crushed. (just an example)
That make sense at all? (kind of in a rush)


Back to that relative time thing with mice. I saw some show about how most animals species, despite varying life spans, have the same average amount of heartbeats per lifetime (something like 8 billion?). You can fill in the rest of what i would say......

Originally posted by mihalll
I can say I was thinking about it too (first time I remember I was 7:crazyboy: ) but its nothing special - all these theories's been writen down and discussed million times hundreds years ago.

My question is: WHAT'S THE POINT OF THESE QUESTIONS?

Its not like we'll get any anwsers. Thats why I hate philosophy. It's just the most stupid domain - thousand years old and so far it produced millions of questions and not a single anwser :rolleyes:

To me, that is the beautiful part of philosophy. Millions of questions, yes, and there has also been millions of answers. I absolutely adore philosophy, and we live in a world where its practical application affects and effects us everyday. The best part is that these questions, of limits and infinity and the like, are what challenge the rule-bound calculated existence we must struggle through each day. The point of these questions? Well if we didn't question things, we would just be mental slaves. And if it wasn't for philosophy, we would never have had feminism, ethics, etc.etc. It is all about trying to attain the better life. The simple fact is, questions of ontology and epistemology surround us everyday, in many different ways. The process of questioning, and critiqueing the answers that are given, is a very liberating and invogorating process.

Originally posted by LaBrujita
Like to us, mice, for example, move very very sporatically and quickly. They look like they are constantly hyper active and jittery. But, time is relative, and we would most likely seem like we're in slow motion. So, if you took that on a bigger scale, our universe could simply be a spec of dust falling from a ceiling and we could hit the floor any time. To the "people" of that universe, we are just an insignificant spec that lasts a few seconds, while to us it's an infinite universe lasting billions of (relative to us) years before we hit hte floor and are crushed. (just an example)
That make sense at all? (kind of in a rush)


Back to that relative time thing with mice. I saw some show about how most animals species, despite varying life spans, have the same average amount of heartbeats per lifetime (something like 8 billion?). You can fill in the rest of what i would say......

That is correct. The elephant's heart beats slower than ours, same like ours is slower than a rabbit's heart. There's a size-of-animal/heart-beat connection.

About time being relative, ie, us looking slower to some species, faster to others, in a sense of time, I always thought that was pretty much established. Now that I think about it, I don't recall reading any particular theory on this, but it makes all perfect sense, physically speaking. On 2nd thoughts, the old "person in moving bus looking out the window to person on the side of the road", (the relative speeds part of physics), gives a good and simple explanation.

heres another unanswered threadhttp://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57257
dont tell me "yes i know a good explanation" to this 1

I think Infesta made a very very important point about the fact that many many many animals on Earth don't even know of our existence. Fish for example, or any other underwater creature don't even know we exist!!?? So when we catch a fish, that must be the equivalent of one of us humans being abducted by aliens!?
It sounds quite silly but its right...

However my theory is that the universe we are in is the nucleus/proton of an atom. Maybe atoms on earth are 100 zillionth trillionth billionth (even smaller than that) of the size of the atom that makes the universe..??

I love talking about things like this...!

Keep it going.

Originally posted by K-Man
my point exactly (H)

you wouldnt want to make a plane out of that material because it would be too heavy to rise ......
________


Yep .. It would cost a lot of $$$$ to make the whole plane out of that material as well :p :crazyboy: .. and the planes wouldnt look .. LIKE PLANES :| :p

Originally posted by Thomas McCarten


However my theory is that the universe we are in is the nucleus/proton of an atom. Maybe atoms on earth are 100 zillionth trillionth billionth (even smaller than that) of the size of the atom that makes the universe..??

I love talking about things like this...!

Keep it going.
thats a very good point.. but i think that actually the universe is made of billions of millions of etc.. atoms..
i wonder sometimes.. whats after the universe's end.. and i dont think that it is infinite.. there must be something after it

Originally posted by rhizome17
To me, that is the beautiful part of philosophy. Millions of questions, yes, and there has also been millions of answers. I absolutely adore philosophy, and we live in a world where its practical application affects and effects us everyday. The best part is that these questions, of limits and infinity and the like, are what challenge the rule-bound calculated existence we must struggle through each day. The point of these questions? Well if we didn't question things, we would just be mental slaves. And if it wasn't for philosophy, we would never have had feminism, ethics, etc.etc. It is all about trying to attain the better life. The simple fact is, questions of ontology and epistemology surround us everyday, in many different ways. The process of questioning, and critiqueing the answers that are given, is a very liberating and invogorating process.

What anwser did u get from philosophy? Did it make a one step forward since Socrates? I'm not telling the questions are stupid - they are natural and inherent to intelligent human being. I just wouldnt call it since. Maybe some day we'll find the anwsers but currently we aren't capable of understanding the world - in simple words we are just too stupid.

Originally posted by Sheringham10
thats a very good point.. but i think that actually the universe is made of billions of millions of etc.. atoms..
i wonder sometimes.. whats after the universe's end.. and i dont think that it is infinite.. there must be something after it
That's what he meant (as I said), our universe is made of trillions and trillions of atoms, but our ENTIRE universe may be encapsulated within an atom of another different universe....

maybe that universe is what's beyond our universe..and what's beyond that, and that, and that....ouch, my mind.


Same deal with time, how could time just start? What was before that? How will time end? etc.

Any religious people around to give us yoru take?

Originally posted by mihalll
What anwser did u get from philosophy? Did it make a one step forward since Socrates? I'm not telling the questions are stupid - they are natural and inherent to intelligent human being. I just wouldnt call it since. Maybe some day we'll find the anwsers but currently we aren't capable of understanding the world - in simple words we are just too stupid.

What answer? None, specifically. But I don't see that the point is to find the answer, it is the journey that is enlightening. If anything, I would question that there is a 'final' answer, like religious, political and economic zealots suggest there is, and I thiink that anyone who suggests there might be one answer or solution is dangerous. We will never be capable of understanding the world in its fullness. Out of all the different philosophers I have encountered (which is too many to name here), I have found that it is Emmanuel Levinas who speaks most clearly to me, followed by (in no particular order) Jacques Derrida, Michel Foucault, Gilles Deleuze, Friedrich Nietzsche,Karl Marx, etc. etc. They all have great ideas that are interesting to follow through. But Levinas speaks most clearly to me becuase of the primacy of ethics in his work, which for him come before all other forms of knowledge. And heaven knows we live in a time where ethics are needed.

Emmanuel Levinas (1906-1995), was a philosopher and religious thinker who made ethical responsibility for "the Other" the bedrock of his philosophical analyses. Born in Lithuania, Levinas studied under the great philosophers Edmund Husserl and Martin Heidegger. Levinas's own philosophy began to emerge after World War II. His family in Lithuania died in the Holocaust, while he, by then a French citizen and soldier, did forced labor as a prisoner of war in Germany and his wife and daughter hid in a French monastery. Following the war, Levinas invested great energy in developing an understanding of Judaism that could provide an appropriate theology for the post-Holocaust world. As a result, Levinas developed an alternative to traditional philosophical approaches making personal ethical responsibility to others the starting point and primary focus for philosophy, rather than a secondary reflection that followed explorations of the nature of existence and the validity of knowledge.

Originally posted by LaBrujita

Same deal with time, how could time just start? What was before that? How will time end? etc.

Any religious people around to give us yoru take?
Is there any sense of time after you die??:confused:

Actually, this whole discussion reminds me of Zeno's Paradoxes. Anyone here familiar with them? http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/paradox-zeno/#3

The only other way one might find the regress troubling is if one had reason to suppose that objects must have ‘absolute’ places, in the sense that there is always a unique answer to the question ‘where is it’? For example, where am I as I write? If the paradox is right then I'm in my place, and I'm also in my place's place, and my place's place's place, and my … . Since I'm in all these places any might seem an appropriate answer to the question. But why think that there must be a unique answer to the question? Why shouldn't I have many locations? At my desk, in my apartment, in Chicago, Illinois, USA, North America, the Earth, Solar System …
my mind hurts :p
thx 4 the link rhizome

"I used to think that to us, maybe the universe is so incredibly large and incomprehendable it may as well be considered infinite. But, what if you stepped outside our universe, and all the universe was was an electron in orbit within an atom. So our "infinite" universe is a subatomic particle in another universe... maybe a parallel universe but in a different time or with a different twist.... who knows"

"Like to us, mice, for example, move very very sporatically and quickly. They look like they are constantly hyper active and jittery. But, time is relative, and we would most likely seem like we're in slow motion. So, if you took that on a bigger scale, our universe could simply be a spec of dust falling from a ceiling and we could hit the floor any time. To the "people" of that universe, we are just an insignificant spec that lasts a few seconds, while to us it's an infinite universe lasting billions of (relative to us) years before we hit hte floor and are crushed. (just an example)"

amazing...

when i was younger, 5-6, i liked to think about that stuff too..

so sometimes, I would think that we might be microscopic to other "things", like bacteria are to us. And we just dont realize the presence of those 'giants', and all the things that happen to us are caused by them, i.e. rain- giants are crying, death- a human is stomped by the 'giant', etc. :D

then it gradually turned into a more complex thinking, that our universe could be a part of another one, something bigger. just like you said, that we could be a 'subatomic particle in another universe. (C)

Isn't it amazing how a thread that was supposed to be humorous has become a serious discussion?

Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
Isn't it amazing how a thread that was supposed to be humorous has become a serious discussion?

Is there anything wrong with that?

Originally posted by K-Man
Is there anything wrong with that?
It's funny considering it's usually the other way around.

Absolute space, does not exist. A position in this universe, can only be defined in relation something else. For example a spot on earth can be given three dimensional co-ordinates. Length, width and height. Eg. 1 metre FROM sea level. 3km FROM the city and 21 km FROM the coast. Once given three co-ordinates in relation to something a certain point can be found. These are co-ordinates in relation to other significant places or objects, not a definite position. If you're trying to find something in space, light years away, those former co-ordinates become INSIGNIFICANT. Eg. 15476678 km from the SUN, 9998093 from PLUTO and 3465671946598 from the nearest star.

Then there is another dimension in which to describe an pbjects position, time. Apparently time can be used in defining co-ordinates space, eg. "4 dimensional space". I don't really understand this, it was from one of those Hawking books which I don't get, atm.:rolleyes:

:p

My question......... why does chewing gum give me terrible gas. There is a warning on the label, but you need to chew a whole lot of it, all I need is one. Wait a minute, I don't need chewy to do that.:p

Originally posted by Sheringham10

If you're in a vehicle going the speed of light, what happens when you turn on the headlights?

Ive been happy with most answer, except everoyne has answered this one slightly wrong.

Its all about Eintsein's special theory of relativity.

This theory (of theorem?? its often been proved using atomic clocks and stuff..anyway...), states that the speed of light is always constant.

This means, that if you're in the car, then to you the headlights will look like they are going the speed of light. If you are watching from the outside, it will seem like the car is overtaking the headlights..

Pretty freaky stuff, but this is also why time dialation, length contraction etc occur.

I could go on all day about how this works, but wont.. Ill save that for when i finish my degree to become a physics and maths teacher :p

Cheers
sKIp_E

This is really interesting guys, nice job, keep it going.

Why Does Sour Cream have a Use By Date?

and Croutons too ImmUnity

Originally posted by sKIp_E
Ive been happy with most answer, except everoyne has answered this one slightly wrong.

Its all about Eintsein's special theory of relativity.

This theory (of theorem?? its often been proved using atomic clocks and stuff..anyway...), states that the speed of light is always constant.

This means, that if you're in the car, then to you the headlights will look like they are going the speed of light. If you are watching from the outside, it will seem like the car is overtaking the headlights..

Spot on, as far as I understand it anyway. We are all talking about Einstein's theory of relativity (all time is relative).

Spacetime is the 4th dimension.

Thanks for the link rhizome, I've bookmarked it for later reading. I'm just starting to look at philosophy and I like it.

Originally posted by flamehawk
This is really interesting guys, nice job, keep it going.
afterall.. many of us like philosophy:p

Originally posted by sKIp_E
Ive been happy with most answer, except everoyne has answered this one slightly wrong.

Its all about Eintsein's special theory of relativity.

This theory (of theorem?? its often been proved using atomic clocks and stuff..anyway...), states that the speed of light is always constant.

This means, that if you're in the car, then to you the headlights will look like they are going the speed of light. If you are watching from the outside, it will seem like the car is overtaking the headlights..

Pretty freaky stuff, but this is also why time dialation, length contraction etc occur.

I could go on all day about how this works, but wont.. Ill save that for when i finish my degree to become a physics and maths teacher :p

Cheers
sKIp_E
'Yup(H)

I wonder, how do we know the universe is infinite? I mean, it's not like someone went out there and took a stroll around it to make sure.

How big is the universe, exactly, and when did it start and when will it end?

Ah, a question I've often pondered but have a lot of trouble grasping. Well, the Big Bang theory suggests that the universe did have a begining, is ever expanding, and will eventually have an end...but what I have trouble imagining is, if the universe did start at some point, just what the hell was there before?? Nothing?

Another thing I wonder is...does the universe actually stop somewhere? like if you could travel at warp speed in one direction for billions and billions of years, where would you end up? Is there eventually a wall or something that all of THIS in encased in?


Two good points ... but i think people use the word "universe" too loosly. The actual meaning of universe is "whole one" or something similar- meaning everything out there grouped together, infinately carrying on. So therefore the first question is invalid, as the universe is not an actual thing, its a collection of things ... how big is the collection nobody knows i suppose :|, but the universe is just a collective name, so to me, you cant really treat it as an object. But more as a colective wholeness. Is that infinate ... well i would say so yes, and it litterally covers EVERYTHING that exists anywhere, at any time

But based on the fact that the Universe is EVERYTHING that there possibly is out there in the unknown. Yet they say that the universe is expanding .... well if the universe is everything, what the hell is it expanding into??

I cant see how something that covers space as a colective can be growing ... yes i understand redshift, and all that, but does that actually prove that space is expanding? Not really, just that weare moving further apart into whatever is already there.

But my question is the one above ... the universe is everything, but its growing ... what into then ?

Your thoughts please

Cheers,
Nath

"I used to think that to us, maybe the universe is so incredibly large and incomprehendable it may as well be considered infinite. But, what if you stepped outside our universe, and all the universe was was an electron in orbit within an atom. So our "infinite" universe is a subatomic particle in another universe... maybe a parallel universe but in a different time or with a different twist.... who knows"

"Like to us, mice, for example, move very very sporatically and quickly. They look like they are constantly hyper active and jittery. But, time is relative, and we would most likely seem like we're in slow motion. So, if you took that on a bigger scale, our universe could simply be a spec of dust falling from a ceiling and we could hit the floor any time. To the "people" of that universe, we are just an insignificant spec that lasts a few seconds, while to us it's an infinite universe lasting billions of (relative to us) years before we hit hte floor and are crushed. (just an example)"

amazing...

when i was younger, 5-6, i liked to think about that stuff too..

so sometimes, I would think that we might be microscopic to other "things", like bacteria are to us. And we just dont realize the presence of those 'giants', and all the things that happen to us are caused by them, i.e. rain- giants are crying, death- a human is stomped by the 'giant', etc.

then it gradually turned into a more complex thinking, that our universe could be a part of another one, something bigger. just like you said, that we could be a 'subatomic particle in another universe.

WOW! I didnt think anyone else thought about that kind of stuff ... my answer before is speaking purley from a scientific and logical point of view...
I often used to sit in class and ponder over space. I mean, space is all around us, so what if an atom isnt an atom, it isnt really an atom. What if its a collection of galaxies etc (i would say a universe, but this isnt the corect term :p ) as you said before, each electron is a cluster, zooming around the original centre of the collection. With the gravitational forces keeping these miniture constilations of galaxies together. And on a microscopic level, whe space between atoms in a solid is massive. if you were to break it down so that our solar system is an atom, with the sun at the centre, and all the planets circling around outside (ok i know thats a crappy example) but the spacing would be about right IN PROPORTION. As would the distance between the two atoms and two solar systems/galaxies (pick whatever example you wish as im sure it works for them all).
So anyway ... if that is happening microscopically, in our world then think about how many miniture versions of us there must be on that scale ... a lot huh ;)
But now scale it up a level. What if we are the atoms, in someone elses solid, and there are all the other atoms in thier world, just like us ... and in thier worlds they have atoms like in ours.
The chain could go on endlessley. Both scaling up and down. But eventually I would say that you would have you arrive at the beggining...one singular, which expolded, causeing it to shatter into many peices.
How the singular came about is another question :mrpimp:

Well theres a quite alternative view on space and the universe.
Wierd how you get carried away writing this kinda stuff huh?

Originally posted by Number9
Two good points ... but i think people use the word "universe" too loosly. The actual meaning of universe is "whole one" or something similar- meaning everything out there grouped together, infinately carrying on. So therefore the first question is invalid, as the universe is not an actual thing, its a collection of things ... how big is the collection nobody knows i suppose, but the universe is just a collective name, so to me, you cant really treat it as an object. But more as a colective wholeness. Is that infinate ... well i would say so yes, and it litterally covers EVERYTHING that exists anywhere, at any time

By your definition, if it's the "whole one", then shouldn't there be some containment and something outside the "whole".... or outside the "one"? Whatever way you wanna look at it. I know you weren't being completely accurate with that, but still.

If you are going to say it's a collection of everything grouped together, how can it be infinite? No "group" or "collection" can be infinite, right? What is it a grouping or collection of? If there's nothing else, than it's not a group, it's just everything. You first say it's infinite but then "nobody knows how big it is"... I got your point, but I think you contradicted yourself (maybe?). Not trying to critique you or anything... just observation/...ok being critical. ;)


But based on the fact that the Universe is EVERYTHING that there possibly is out there in the unknown. Yet they say that the universe is expanding .... well if the universe is everything, what the hell is it expanding into??

There can't just be an "everything" and that's it. What's outside the universe?: If the universe is "everything" then there's nothing outside the universe. Sure there is, what's outside "Everything". There always HAS to be more. No matter what. Whether it's "nothingness" or whatever. But we used to think space was just nothingness. There's no conceivable way that the universe IS "infinite" in that there's "nothing" (hopefully you know what i mean by these multiple-meaning words) beyond it. It's just not possible.
It's the same as saying time started ______ years ago. What was before that?
Reading back over this, I see more and more that the concept of infinity is either not possible itself, or not possible to comprehend reasonably. It hurts to keep asking: well what was before that? and before that? and before that? and before that?

It could very well all be circular in it's multi-dimensional form, where time is interlocked with space so that there is "nothing" outside of the universe.....but... what is the universe within? what is that nothing?
Is there such thing as nothing? Just as: is there such thing as everything?

I finished trying to quote you and realized that you were sort of asking the question of my point. So...I was sort of not doing justice to you in the end. My apologies (if necessary), but I'll leave my post as is.

But surely our universe could be incapsulated into some incomprehendably-sized form or shape. Therefore our "Everything" is a collection, within something outside our universe, so that our universe is the "whole one" for us (being everone) in our universe), but beyond that?
I need to go ice my brain:(

You should be doing poststructuralist philosophy Evan :p (H)

For anyone interested in the topics raised in this thread there are 2 really realy good books deeply related.


"Brief History Of Time", Stephen Hawking

"The Universe In A Nutshell" (sequel of the previous), Stephen Hawking.


They discuss a lot, all "universe" type issues in this thread and more.


BTW, Einstein's theory of relativity in regards to light also explains that the speed of light cannot be achieved by "objects".

E= mc2 , Energy mass x speed of light squared.

Basically, the faster you go, the more mass you must attain to create the energy to travel at the amazing speeds to reach light speed. By the time you would have accelerated to the speed of light, your mass would be infinite, (to match the energy needed) and you cannot have infinite mass.

Light can travel at light speed, as light has an intrinsic mass, not "usual" mass.

BTW no.2, this was adapted from the book I stated. I didn't figure it out.(H) :rolleyes: :D

Again, some good points have been made... I understand what your saying, and whole heartedly agree with most points.

I'll try to give my opinions in an order which people can understand, i (admitedly) do ramble on a fiar bit sometimes.

But surely our universe could be incapsulated into some incomprehendably-sized form or shape. Therefore our "Everything" is a collection, within something outside our universe, so that our universe is the "whole one" for us (being everone) in our universe), but beyond that?

This again to me (more of a scientist than a philospphist) is a misconception :|. "our universe", you still treating the universe as an object, which it isnt. "our universe" - Our everything only stretched half as far as it does now in the past, because as new things are discovered, they are given thier own name as an object, but are added to the universe... Therfore the universe has no bounds :|as like you say, there will always be something out there further than what we know about, weather it be empty space (nothing) or some wierd parralel dimension, or anything... but that is in the universe to, just we dont know about it yet.
Therefore this beings me onto my previous post about us being a sub level of an atom in someone elses world ... in that case, what about all the other sub levels ? They are all things, therefore are part of "everything" and must be included in the universe...
There is only 1 universe (uni = one :|), that is the point im trying to make, however how big it is, and how much of it we know about, is another matter entirely...


It hurts to keep asking: well what was before that? and before that? and before that? and before that?

Exactly! thats what we all strive to find out...

We seem to come from slightly different original view points but agree on many points, which to me is good ;) my views being a slightly more scientific than philosophical, yours more philosophical than scientific. As far as i can tell anyway - and that in no way is ment in disrespect, as i, just as many other members have a lot of respect for most people here, and enjoy debating (when i have time) over things such as this with someone who seems to know what they are talking about..

since all of this philosophy stuff is over my head, thanks to the substandard american educational system, im gonna ask a more basic question:

is hootie and the blowfish cheaper than blank tape?

thanks in advance.