Seeing as its the first competition we are giving you lot a chance to vote on what you want.

The teams are firstly

Team 1:

Go Ahead Eagles

Country:

Holland

Board Expectations:

Respectable League Position

Balance:

496k

Transfer Funds:

400k

Stadium capacity:

7000

Good facilities and a squad size of 28

Team 2:

Union Berlin

Country:

Germany

Board Expectations:

Battle Relegation

Balance:

£2m

Transfer Funds:

£1m

Stadium:

18100

Facilities are adequete and a squad size of 27

Finally the last team is

Holly Hock

Country:

Japan

Board Expectations:

Improve Squad

Balance:

448k

Transfer Funds:

0

Stadium:

22022

Good Facilities and a squad size of 28

Just vote in the poll above and then the team with most votes will be seleceted for the challenge

For this one there are no targets set, it is just who ever does the best wins

What's the time limit? Wouldn't it be easier to set targets?

Good idea, but you need a minimum, or set time limit to wage who has done better.


I reckon Union Berlin, the extra cash allows for manager creativity.:p

If we start on say Monday
We will then have 3 months from that point to do your stuff, in future we will be setting targets but seeing as its pretty new we are trying to ease people into the idea.

Originally posted by Liam_Best
If we start on say Monday
We will then have 3 months from that point to do your stuff, in future we will be setting targets but seeing as its pretty new we are trying to ease people into the idea. Yes, also we will not always put the challenge to the vote.

Please note you will be required to post screen shots to prove the authenticity of your claims.

-C

One last thing I would like to ask is that C and I would prefer you all to not use To Madeira and Antonio Voulgaris
Thanx guys

I voted for the Japanese team :crazyboy:

very 'exotic', more challenging :mrpimp:

You cant make it 3 months from now, you have to set a limit in the game, say by 2020 or something. Also, I prefer the target idea rather than time limit ie guide Union Berlin to the World Club Championship then take the German team top the World Cup or something rather than a time limit then adding up what...manager points?

Also, I think that challenges which are not time restricted should be able to run simultaneously with the next - ie if I haven't finished the requirements yet I could still go on with that one whilst other do the new one.

The challenge should be won when someone completes the targets (another reason why timelimits aren't as good) and also I'd really love it if people wrote stories to go with their challenge...it makes the game so much more fun.

Here's a small sample of my favourite CM writer, Donners from his odyssey with Rushden:

September, season 2000/2001

September looked like being a wonderful month for the club. No injuries, plenty of home games, and the side in good form. By the 13th, we had already gone through to the second round of the League Cup, after a 5-2 aggregate win over S****horpe, and we had not lost a game since the opening match of the season. 6 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss, with the club sitting pretty in second place. Scott Partridge had hit another two goals, and we had conceded just one goal in five games. How quickly things change.
It’s hard to pick a specific incident that caused our sudden collapse. More likely, it was the culmination of a number of incidents. Each one could be coped with individually, but confronted with a series of unfortunate incidents, we simply could not cope.

It began with a disappointing draw away to Halifax, putting an end to a four game winning streak. The next game, at home to Oxford, resulted in a 1-2 loss – only our second loss for the season, and the first since the opening game of the year. It was here that the problems began.

September 18 was a bad day for Rushden and Diamonds. Firstly, Wimbledon made a £600K offer for our star defensive midfielder, Stuart Wardley, which was accepted by his club (Q.P.R.). This was quickly followed by the news that Simon Colosimo had suffered a groin strain during training, and would be out for the next four weeks. In just one day, we had lost our two top defensive midfielders, and the crucial second round of the League Cup was looming. Young Irish DM Shaun Carey was quickly called up to the squad, despite mediocre performances in the reserves. I had no choice – if Wardley decided to leave, he’d be the only fit defensive midfielder in my squad.

Unfortunately, Wardley agreed to the transfer, which occurred (with no small sense of irony from the computer) on the day of our League Cup game. Sure enough, we went down 0-2 to Gillingham. This was followed by a disgraceful 1-4 loss to Hartlepool – capped off by keeper Kristian Rogers being sent off in the final minute, and a 1-2 defeat against Gillingham in the return leg, wiping us out of the League Cup. I had decided early on in the season that good performance in the cups would be essential – both to bring in some much-needed funds and gain the club some respect. With this early and embarrassing exit, my plans were left in disarray. Worse yet, we had lost four games on the trot. Disturbingly, star midfielder Andy Burgess had gone from an early average rating of 7.90 down to 7.13 - an indicator of our problems or a crucial factor in them? The month was rounded out by a 0-0 home draw against Rochdale – ending our losing streak at last. It wasn’t pretty, but at least it showed that we still have some fight left.

During this unfortunate period, however, I had the chance to bring in a second player on loan, as a direct replacement for Wardley. While I was tempted by the availability of young striker Rory Fallon, I had a defensive dilemma. While I had previously had the luxury of putting Colosimo at right back (with Wardley at DM), freeing Noudjeu to play on the left, I now planned to put Colosimo in defensive midfield post when he recovered. Thus, I would need to put Noudjeu at right back, and somebody to cover the left back position (or vice versa, since Noudjeu could play on each side). While Ian Lynch could cover there for a while, I needed somebody to hold down the position for a long period. I eventually brought over Chris Morgan for Barnsley, until the end of the season.

A brief profile follows:
Chris Morgan [22, D LC, ENG – on loan from Barnsley]
A huge prospect for Barnsley’s future, Morgan is a big, tough defender – an excellent tackler and impressively brave. His marking abilities are particularly notable, and he may well get a marking assignment if we come across a particularly dangerous striker.

What do we do about updates? Bad luck? :(:(

You make to many contrasting points hermolt :p
I'm gonna have to chat with Calumn later about all this, we are also new at this, I'm tryna find my way into it.
Anyway good points and i'll try an sort it all out ;)

Originally posted by Liam_Best
You make to many contrasting points hermolt :p
I'm gonna have to chat with Calumn later about all this, we are also new at this, I'm tryna find my way into it.
Anyway good points and i'll try an sort it all out ;)

I'm tryin' me best me old china..;)

I've just seen it done before and with a fair degree of success, is all.

also, it should be encouraged that even after the 3 months, you should carry on and post on the webiste. The only thing this forum needs is more stories. Then again, i never said we should have done away with the old forum format. But oh well..

TROD.

The last stories forum was crap, though - it was nothing more than bragging in essence.

true but it was a good idea, and lets face it, you could quite obviously tell who the ones were who were bragging, everyone just avoided those. I got a lot of positive feedback from "One matche and one certain player" thread.

It was a good idea, i just think that all this forum needs is more stories.... but not people who brag brag brag.

TROD.

Originally posted by TROD
true but it was a good idea, and lets face it, you could quite obviously tell who the ones were who were bragging, everyone just avoided those. I got a lot of positive feedback from "One matche and one certain player" thread.

It was a good idea, i just think that all this forum needs is more stories.... but not people who brag brag brag.

TROD.

Indeed - see the part of a story I posted before, that's how they should be written, in a diary format or as new reports rather than 'And then he did this. And then he scored. And then got sent off.'

I'm going to start writing up my West Ham game just to give a taste.

Wouldn't it be a bit more interesting to start off with a conference side or some dodgy welsh team. I think climbing leagues with a really bad team is more rewarding than turning a team round into the top half of the division lets face it a couple of kallstrom's, said's and chiou what ever his face is and you'll acheive success with any of the three selected clubs! Someone like Margate in the conference or Queen's park up in the Scottish third division. Playing with teams closer to home may get more folk interested and would definately, as I've already said, be more rewarding. Lets be honest here a top of the table clash between Woking and Man Utd would seem more of an acheivment than a cup final between Holly Hock and S-Pulse!!!

Originally posted by quackers
Wouldn't it be a bit more interesting to start off with a conference side or some dodgy welsh team. I think climbing leagues with a really bad team is more rewarding than turning a team round into the top half of the division lets face it a couple of kallstrom's, said's and chiou what ever his face is and you'll acheive success with any of the three selected clubs! Someone like Margate in the conference or Queen's park up in the Scottish third division. Playing with teams closer to home may get more folk interested and would definately, as I've already said, be more rewarding. Lets be honest here a top of the table clash between Woking and Man Utd would seem more of an acheivment than a cup final between Holly Hock and S-Pulse!!! As we hope to make the Quarterly Challenge an on going thing we will be trying it with a variety of different teams and challenges.

We thought we'd start with one that isn't too though.

-C

Now we have a quartely challenge subforum :)

Please note everyone will be required to start their own thread for optional updates and required screen shots.

Get your thread up whenever you want!!!!

-C

So when does this start?

Are there any specific rules?

i dont understand how things works

i think ive got this


we all pick a certain side, that every1 uses in there own version of the game, trying 2 improve the club, and bring success, right?

1st/ what club we using :/
2nd/ is there a certain patch we need to use??

thnks rob

ok... looks like we using Union Berlin if im not mistaken, any patch i needa use? latest patch, etc?

Sorry about not making it too clear..........

Basically, each quarter we will set a challenge which participants can enter using whatever updates/patches they have.

This quarter, the challenge is simply to see how well you can do with the chosen team (looking like Union Berlin).

Whoever does the best after the three months wins!!!!

We start on Monday.

-C

Sorry, Me and Cal have just been chattin on MSN and we decided NO To Madeira or Antonio Voulgaris thanx :D

But you CAN'T make it 3 months - some people can't play for much each while others could play for ever, if it HAS to be time constrained, it has to be in game.

How is the success going to be scored? Leagues, cups, manager stats, profit?

play tewl like, 2010, or 2020, a certin set year

its starts in 01/02

so play tewl the 2011 / 12 season? or something similar

I think that the people attempting to get this going are trying to say just take Union Berlin and see what you can do with them. After a period of time then just everyone compares their success. I don't believe this is some like official competition where every little detail is scored and recorded, more of just like a friendly challenge. Obviously, people would just have to trust one another and know that it's all in fun.

Is this correct?

bah, i wanna play NOW!

hey do we have to stay at union berlin, or can we leave to manage other clubs/nations?

i think we stay @ union berlin

u might wanna clarify some things

like

Database Size...

Just Have it at Normal?

Originally posted by Parra Power
hey do we have to stay at union berlin, or can we leave to manage other clubs/nations? I will post a thread outlining all the rules when this threads is closed. Things like this will be explained then.

The voting will be closed tomorrow (Sunday) morning so get your last minute votes in!!!

-C

Originally posted by hermolt
But you CAN'T make it 3 months - some people can't play for much each while others could play for ever, if it HAS to be time constrained, it has to be in game.

How is the success going to be scored? Leagues, cups, manager stats, profit? I think you're wrong there. I for one am not sitting around for 4 extra months while one or two slow people get finished. Part of the challenge is taking the time to do it. It WILL be resisricted to 3 months (though there's nothing to say you cant continue the game after the official challenge has finished).

As for scoring, Success will be scored on success. Promotions, League Wins, League Cups will all gain points as will big money signings, manager of the year awards etc.

Each of these are obviously of different values, however there will be no scoring system outlined from the start. Me and Liam will assess all the best candidtes and pick a winner based on these things.

It's not fair of us to uniform database size or updates because that will get in the way of the players' other games and is too much hassel for the players. Therefore, those things will not be restricted.

Please note also, anyone who has already started theres has started illegally. All games are required to have been started on Monday 20th January or later and a screen shot of the game info screen will be required to prove it.

-C

calumn, how are you seriously going to make sure that no idiots will cheat, when CMGamer did this, Rob thought he had all the answers but actually, there are SOOOOOO many that he couldnt answer for, and dont say that "If you cheat, you'll get no satisfaction out of it" becasue..... yes they will, on the forum they will get praised, now i think that no-one who has entered already wont do that, everyone who has made threads saying their doing it, wont cheat. But how do you know that some kid wont come a long and do that, and get forever praised for his antics...... Sorry, im in a bad mood.

TROD.

btw, im not doing it for various reasons which i care not to get into.

Originally posted by TROD
calumn, how are you seriously going to make sure that no idiots will cheat, when CMGamer did this, Rob thought he had all the answers but actually, there are SOOOOOO many that he couldnt answer for, and dont say that "If you cheat, you'll get no satisfaction out of it" becasue..... yes they will, on the forum they will get praised, now i think that no-one who has entered already wont do that, everyone who has made threads saying their doing it, wont cheat. But how do you know that some kid wont come a long and do that, and get forever praised for his antics...... Sorry, im in a bad mood.

TROD.

btw, im not doing it for various reasons which i care not to get into. Some methods of cheating we can discover - some we cant. However, the ones we cant take a long time to implement so it will slow the players up.

We are having to rely on honesty.

-C

ok, i suppose you're right.

TROD.

Originally posted by ChelseaFan88
I think you're wrong there. I for one am not sitting around for 4 extra months while one or two slow people get finished. Part of the challenge is taking the time to do it. It WILL be resisricted to 3 months (though there's nothing to say you cant continue the game after the official challenge has finished).

It inherently challenges the fairness of the challenge.

Having target based challenges works a helluva lot better, it allows people to see who finishes first (game time wise) but it's less about winning than seeing how you do. Also, writing stories gives you incentive to finish the game after someone has won.

You don't need to participate in every challenge. Saying that part of the challenge is taking the time do it is simply moronic. Some people have to work you know, and can't be spending a lot of time on CM. The person who spends 15 hours a week on CM obviously has a huge advantage over the one who spends 4. That is, unless you come up with some way of scaling or averaging results. Good luck with that.

EDIT: Down with conformity! GImme my title back!

How Can Someone Cheat on CM?

Do You Mean Say, Close the Game Everytime they Lose Etc?

millions of ways of doing it, you could add manager, ctrl + alt + delter, change the database yourself so all your players have wonderful hidden atrributes.

Hermolt, im with you. Some of simply havent got time to be playing it solid for 3 months. there should be a year that everyone stops... possibly 2007?

TROD.

im up for 2007

than we can have more in-depth reviews, etc, and its over 3 months :)

this is gonna be great :)

i cant wait...

*btw when can i start*
waiting for the go ahead

Thanks
~Rob

i was taking a look at union berlin in the game, they have a strong defence, good foundations there, plus with the extra money, i can buy gomez and sergey niki and scout a few unknowns

the chinese side is a goldmind for those unknown superstars (imo anyway, check it out)

Originally posted by TROD
Hermolt, im with you. Some of simply havent got time to be playing it solid for 3 months. there should be a year that everyone stops... possibly 2007?

TROD.

Yeah but what about folks with slow PC's i.e -me . It would take me about 6 month to get that far:kader:

Originally posted by John 1
Yeah but what about folks with slow PC's i.e -me . It would take me about 6 month to get that far:kader:
and wot about ppl with a shared PC like me and liam i might not get as much time as him!!:kader:

The Challenge lasts for three months and you can go to what ever season you like. Sorry to be firm but, if you dont like it then **** off. Idiots who constantly complain and whinge about the rules will be disquallified.

This vote is now closed and Union Berlin has won. The rules will be going up shortly.

-C