look at this bull S***


how can they say that

those stupid f***s


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/527587/posts

It's ironic how they say anti-american stuff yet if it wasn't for America they would be nowhere. (not that they make good music or anything)

I don't care what this **** site tells us.
I visit their forum a few weeks ago and it was terrible ("Germans are all Nazis". "let's rebuild the wall in berlin"...)
:kader: :kader: :kader:

Originally posted by vince15
I don't care what this **** site tells us.
I visit their forum a few weeks ago and it was terrible ("Germans are all Nazis". "let's rebuild the wall in berlin"...)
:kader: :kader: :kader:

Yeah exactly. The members of that particular forum would believe anything, you could tell them Blair had made anti-american remarks and they would start moaning about him. They all live in the insular little world that is conservative christian america, have little or no knowledge about the world outside their house, let alone the outside world. SOAD are one of the best things since sliced bread when it comes to these folks, a popular band that sell records to teens, whose songs for the most part are of a political nature. what would they say if they if they knew that many of the songs were also anti-drug? it would put them into hyperactive overdrive, their pea-sized brains would spin out of control, as they would not be able to reconcile the two issues. I might go and post this song there :mrpimp: (H)

we fought your wars with all our hearts
you sent us back in body parts
you took our wills with the truth you stole
we offer prayers for your long lost soul
your remainder is an unjustifiable egotistical power struggle
at the expense of the american dream
of the american dream
of the american..

we dont give a damn about your world
with all your global profits and all that you're to oppose
we dont give a damn about your world
right now, right now
we dont give a **** about your world
with all your global profits and all that you're to oppose
we dont give a **** about your world
right now, right now!
right now, right now!

there is no flag that is large enough
to hide the shame of a man in cuffs
you switched your signs then you closed the blinds
you changed the channels and you changed our minds

your remainder is an unjustifiable egotistical power struggle
at the expense of the american dream
of the american dream
of the american..

we dont give a damn about your world
with all your global profits and all that you're to oppose
we dont give a damn about your world
right now, right now
we dont give a **** about your world
with all your global profits and all that you're to oppose
we dont give a **** about your world
right now, right now
right now, right now
right now, right now
right now, right now

we're flattened large enough
shame on the men in cuffs
close the blinds

your remainder is an unjustifiable egotistical power struggle
at the expense of the american dream
of the american dream
of the american..

we dont give a damn about your world
with all your global profits and all that you're to oppose
we dont give a damn about your world
right now, right now
we dont give a **** about your world
with all your global profits and all that you're to oppose
we dont give a **** about your world
right now, right now
right now, right now
right now, right now
right now, right n-N-n-Now!

bull****....

his words were probably taken out of context... they open people's minds on whats going on, therefore certain people find their music uncomfortable so why not make them look like the #1 enemy and shut them down?

They dont hate america, they just criticize the government....

visit their forum a few weeks ago and it was terrible

so? some people will use anything as an excuse for hatred... racist songs during football games sang by the "fans" for example... does that mean that football was created to spread racism?

Our whole world has been sickened by the terrible events in New York and D.C. I've been calling out to friends all week to make sure they're ok. My heart goes out to all the families suffering because of this madness.

As American citizens, we are in the privileged position to be able to speak our hearts, even if other people disagree. I highly value the fact that I can make a statement with my intention being to sponsor peace and understanding of the tragic events that have been unfolding. I ask only that, for the long-term survival of our planet, we all concentrate on positive energies in our lives while pursuing justice.

I would not be alive if not for the American orphanages that raised my grandfather after the Armenian Genocide of 1915, so I have a lot of love and respect for the good things that America has and can continue to achieve.

Serj Tankian
System of a Down

Have you read the comments? :o

Originally posted by vince15
Have you read the comments? :o

Have you heard the PSV "supporters" remarks towards Henry? :o

Does that mean that PSV prolong racism?

====
Originally posted by someone on that forum
I said that the guy didn't say we deserved it. Saying that our policy may have caused the events that compelled the terrorists on 9-11 isn't the same thing as saying that we got what was coming to us.

1) This is bullsh!t

2) Why bring up something that happened over a year ago, and has been discussed...

3) Like Kader said, some dumbass reporter or whatever completely took Serj's words out of context and made him seem anti-american when in fact: a) Serj only said that Americas foreign policies were to blame for the 9/11 attacks and b)Serj himself once said that without America, several of his people might not have found a home after the Armenina Genocide in the early 20th century, especially orphans and all......

4) vince, just because you saw some members at the SOAD forum say that all germans are nazis (which is obviously a pathetic lie!) doesn't mean all of the forum members agree, does it?! if everyone judged SG Forums by "certain" members imagine how few members we would have! ;)

5) Toxicity was released one week before 9-11, 4th september, and the day before that SOAD planned to hold a free concert in LA......they expected about 6000 fans to show up.....but it ended up being aorund 12000! So the fire marshall or whoever, decided that it wouldn't be safe, which seems a pretty faid judgement, but the members of SOAD weren't even allowed to walk on stage and tell their fans why/what/how/when............instead it ended up looking like the band DID NOT WANT to walk on stage so the fans naturally got pissed of and started rioting..... :rolleyes:

6) And i've also heard stories of SOAD being portrayed as pro-terrorist after the 9/11 attacks because of lines like "trust in my selfrighteous suicide" from Chop Suey! :|


LAND OF THE FREE MY FU**ING ASS.......

Hey guys, guess what:

I just registered there, and posted some replies, not to the SOAD thread, but one on the UN and Iraq. My posts were neither inflammatory nor threatening, i simply replied to clarify some inaccuracies in peoples statements, pointing out that the US is the only country where a majority support war etc, nothing harsh at all and completely on-topic. And within two minutes, my posts had been deleted!

Originally posted by rhizome17
Hey guys, guess what:

I just registered there, and posted some replies, not to the SOAD thread, but one on the UN and Iraq. My posts were neither inflammatory nor threatening, i simply replied to clarify some inaccuracies in peoples statements, pointing out that the US is the only country where a majority support war etc, nothing harsh at all and completely on-topic. And within two minutes, my posts had been deleted!



They're trying to build a prison! They're trying to build a prison! (For you and me to live in!) Another prison system... :rockman: :kader: :(

Originally posted by Dragan T
They're trying to build a prison! They're trying to build a prison! (For you and me to live in!) Another prison system... :rockman: :kader: :(




:rockman: :rockman:

Originally posted by rhizome17
And within two minutes, my posts had been deleted!

riiiiight.... "Free Republic" my ass....

but at least you proved how :drevil: reliable :drevil: that site is :)

Originally posted by K-Man
riiiiight.... "Free Republic" my ass....

but at least you proved how :drevil: reliable :drevil: that site is :)

= yoyo's and fotbalguy's comments = useless...

Originally posted by Dragan T
= yoyo's and fotbalguy's comments = useless...

I was pissed

I was looking through the SOAD message board and i came across alot of negativity towards America.

I saw the words "I hate America" about 4 times on the front page.

I dont know whether the SOAD comments are true or not, but some of their fans are extreme anti-americans.

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
I was looking through the SOAD message board and i came across alot of negativity towards America.

I saw the words "I hate America" about 4 times on the front page.

I dont know whether the SOAD comments are true or not, but some of their fans are extreme anti-americans.

sure, there is always going to be the odd stupid and unthinking comment on both sides of the debate, like the ones you just printed (which was probably written by an american:crazyboy: ).

my problem with the site is that perfectly reasonable comments I made, such as quoting the surveys that have been carried out in various countries regarding the support for war on Iraq, were filtered out and deleted. yet there were comments at freerepublic such as 'who cares, we should just take the oil' which shows that the people have a reasonable idea what this is all about, but think it ok to just go and steal another nations resources. now i think that whatever i wrote was far more reasonable than that.

I found this link in the web-site, and some of you were talkin` something about comments on WTC. The debate in this thread is too much, I don`t know whose side I`m in, all I know, I like SOAD, and leave this for the rest of you to judge :

"The brutal attacks/bombings this week in New York and Washington D.C. along with threats of attacks there and elsewhere in the country have changed our times forever. While the mass media concentates on the details of the destruction, and the blanketed words of politicians, I will attempt to understand and explain the events from the fence. BOMBINGS AND BEING BOMBED ARE THE SAME THINGS ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE FENCE."
"Terror is not a spontaneous human action without credence. People don't just hijack planes and commit harikari without any weight of thought to the action. No one in the media seems to ask WHY DID THESE PEOPLE DO THIS HORRIFIC ACT OF VIOLENCE AND DESTRUCTION?"
"To be able to understand the answer to this, we must first look at our U.S. Mideast Policy. During most of the 20th century, U.S. businesses have worked on attaining oil rights and concessions from countries in the Middle Ease and Eastern Europe. After WWI, secret back door deals by our State Dept. yielded oil rights from then defeated Turkey to feilds in what is now Iraq and Suadia Arabia, in return for look the other way at a crime against humanity: the Genocide of the Armenians by the Turks. Oil profits have been the motivating factors behind many attempts at conter-insurgency of democratic regimes by the CIA and the U.S. in the Middle East. During the Iran-Iraq war, America supplied both sides with weapons and advice. These are NOT actions of a rich superpower wanting peace. Let's not forget that Saddam Hussein, before becoming America's vision of the Anti-Christ, was a close ally of the U.S. and the CIA. So what was the firm belief system of the consecutive American administrations that caused all this to occur? PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WILL LEAD TO HIGHER OIL AND GASOLINE PRICES. Let's not also forget the power of the Arms industry, disguised as defence, that still sells billions of dollars of weapons to the area. Therefore it has not been in the short term economic interest to foster peace in the Middle East."
"Using the above reasoning, the U.S. has encouraged extremist governments, toppled democracies (as in the case of Iran to replace it with a monarchy), rigged elections, and many more unspeakable political crimes for U.S. businesses abroad. Let's not also forget the Red Scare. During the war between the then Soviet Union and Afghanistan, the United Stated ARMED and SUPPORTED the Taliban, a fundamentalist Muslim organization, and allowed them to export opium and heroin out of their country to pay for those weapons. Therefore, the Taliban rose to power and control with the help of the U.S.. Today, the bombings of Iraq still continue, no longer covered by the media, the economic embargo still remains, killing millions of children, and recently, while the world and the U.N. General Assembly have cried out to bring in peacekeeping forces into Israel and Palestine, to end the escalated war and recent assassinations, the U.S. has vetoed the rest of the Security Council and halted the possiblity of peace there, in the most volatile place in the world."
"People in Serbia, Lebanon, Iraq, Sudan, and Afghanistan to name a few have seen bombs fall, not always at military targets and kill innocent civilians, as the scene in New York yesterday. The wars waged by out government in our names has landed smack in the middle of our living room. The half hour of destruction closed down all world financial markets, struck the cental headquarters of our military, had our leaders running into bunkers, and had our citizens into fear and frenzy. What scares me more than what has occured is what our reactions to the occurances may cause. President Bush belongs to a long generation of Republican Presidents who love war economics. The media has only concentrated on the bombings, if you will, and what type of retaliations are looming for the perpetrators. What everyone fails to realize is that the bombing are a reaction to existing injustices around the world, which is generally unseen to most Americans. To react to a reaction would be to further sponser the reaction. In other words, my beleif is that the terror will multiply if concrete steps are not taken to sponser peace in the Middle East, NOW. This does NOT mean that we should not find the guilty party(s), Bin Laden, or whatever they may be, and not try to stop them. Put simply, as long as a major injustice remains, violence precipitates to the surface of life."
"Native American folklore, the Bible, Nostradamus, and many other major religious beliefs point to the era with the visuals of yesterdays disasters, and conditions of ecological disasters we experience daily in our lives today. War, rumors of war, famine, long burning fires, ect., are at our doorstep. We can prevail over this possible vision with power of the human spirit, understanding, compassion, and peace. IT'S TIME TO PUT OUR NEEDS FOR SECURITY AND SURVIVAL, ACHIEVED ONLY THROUGH PEACE, ABOVE AND BEYOND PROFITS, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES."

it all sounds pretty reasonable to me Hans (except for the Nostradamus bit, not sure where they are headed with that one).

Yeah, here's the part I love the most, I'll just take a few snippets from the original post. "since its[Toxicity's] release less than two weeks ago [which would be 9/4/01]" and then "one song called "Jet Pilot" with eerie coincidences to the World Trade suicide attacks"

Yeah, what damned terrorists these guys are capitalizing on the attacks. Could it possibly have been that the songs were written, recorded, and released before the attacks? And is it documented? Oh, what do you know, it is!

These people just refuse to open their eyes to the world. They will never accept an act like System of a Down but they preach free speech. They're just massive hypocrites and not to mention look like complete retards protesting outside a concert. LA is such a hotbed of SOAD fans, the protesters will just get shocked so much that they live in a very small minority.

Originally posted by Dragan T

4) vince, just because you saw some members at the SOAD forum say that all germans are nazis (which is obviously a pathetic lie!) doesn't mean all of the forum members agree, does it?! if everyone judged SG Forums by "certain" members imagine how few members we would have! ;)

No, I meant the members on the freerepublic board who wrote that ****. And they had ALL (!) the same opinion.

Rhizome if its one thing i have learnt from narrow minded fools like that forum is too make them hate you (ala Hitman) and your posts stay up for there amusement

Next time flame them and flame them good (to a point were the members wanna keep you up and continually flame you then post the good stuff - with a little flame on the side for good measure).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/825687/posts

This one is about the Ricin scare in Britian were a man was arrested for killing a cop (they thought since he was a Muslim African) he had something to do with the Poison, NO! he was an illegal immigrant tring to get away, i dont agree with murder - no one does - but the bloke wasnt a terrorist.

A few commented that - well here is a direct quote:

Exactly.....Finsbury Park is the epicenter of these moslem terrorist groups.

Isnt Finsbury Park a multicultral area - is the person describing a multi-cultral area as being full of terrorists?

Well it would explain parts of Bankstown in Sydney (:p) but really no area just because they have immigrants (illegal or not) are terrorists.

Originally posted by Nimreitz
Yeah, here's the part I love the most, I'll just take a few snippets from the original post. "since its[Toxicity's] release less than two weeks ago [which would be 9/4/01]" and then "one song called "Jet Pilot" with eerie coincidences to the World Trade suicide attacks"

Yeah, what damned terrorists these guys are capitalizing on the attacks. Could it possibly have been that the songs were written, recorded, and released before the attacks? And is it documented? Oh, what do you know, it is!

These people just refuse to open their eyes to the world. They will never accept an act like System of a Down but they preach free speech. They're just massive hypocrites and not to mention look like complete retards protesting outside a concert. LA is such a hotbed of SOAD fans, the protesters will just get shocked so much that they live in a very small minority.


:clapwap: :mrpimp: Well said Nimreitz...and to vince.....hehe.sorry must have misunderstood you! :)

Originally posted by zul-aid
Rhizome if its one thing i have learnt from narrow minded fools like that forum is too make them hate you (ala Hitman) and your posts stay up for there amusement

Next time flame them and flame them good (to a point were the members wanna keep you up and continually flame you then post the good stuff - with a little flame on the side for good measure).

maybe, but then it does market itself as a 'conservative' forum, so I don't know how far 'flaming' them would get me. I think that with the mindset that is in operation there, then anything that differs from their narrow view is considereed flaming.
I mean, I did consider posting some really inflammatory remarks, but then thought, no, I would rather see if I can start some sort of debate there, using facts and figures etc., you know, a rational discussion of the issues. So all I did was point out that the US is the only place where a majority of the population supports war (although this is hopefully declining) and replied to someone who wrote that Bush has shown the international community how irrelevant the UN is. That final post, I simply said that I disagreed, as someone from the international community, and that rather Bush had shown how thankful we should be that there is an organisation that exists to prevent a country from just invading another. Now I am not a massive supporter of the UN, but in times like this I am glad there is something to keep a check and balance on absolute power. In many ways I think it is more dangerous to have a single superpower than it is to have a couple of them. I also think this is why the US admin would be scared of a united Europe (if the EU could ever get their act together).

Originally posted by K-Man
Have you heard the PSV "supporters" remarks towards Henry? :o

Does that mean that PSV prolong racism?

==== You didn't understand, kid ;)

Originally posted by vince15
You didn't understand, kid ;)

Sorry, gramps :(

Originally posted by K-Man
Sorry, gramps :( Hehe LOLZ (H) :crazyboy:
I think my post was a bit hard to understand - forgive me :p