This may not be the right way, but frankly I can't be bothered right now...

Ok I am outta here for a while. It conicides nicely with my decision to build a new PC anyway (so i won't be having net access or reliable e-mail for a bit anyhow), but really things have gone a bit silly recently. I am gonna stay away for a bit, and only post at the political forums where I apparently belong (and in some peoples eyes should have stayed). I will check around here now and again but no more poltical discussion for me on these boards until after the war has been on everyones TV. See some of you on MSN now and again (if I get the backup PC running soon). Best to let things sit until cooler heads prevail around here.

My reasons?
First read this thread and try to discern if I had done anything wrong. Sorry you can't see the sig I had that caused a commotion , but I took it down to appease some people, but hopefully some of you can remember it, it was about Iraq and WMD and Israel and the 1980's etc.: http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60342.

Secondly check out this pic:

Thirdly, the correspondence:

And finally, my rebuttal::|

hmm, calm down a bit dude, i know how u feel.

probably Paul was drunk or wasnt in good mood or just broke up with his girl...watever(H)

after all we are all human beings so we have emotions:p

btw u didnt get a ban or something did u?

anyway wish u will be back soon.;)

damn. well man see you round (you will get away tips in the rugby super 12 predictions, so you could still win :P)

Hey man, don't depreive the forum of your insightful opinions just because some doosh bag thinks differently than you. There is more support for your opinions than there is for censorship, after all this is supposed to be a haven for free speech. If people are morons, as some have been in this case, just forget about them, but the forum will suffer for awhile without you.

Damn. Good fun readin your posts.


This is poo.:( :( :(

Originally posted by rhizome17
This may not be the right way, but frankly I can't be bothered right now...

Ok I am outta here for a while. It conicides nicely with my decision to build a new PC anyway (so i won't be having net access or reliable e-mail for a bit anyhow), but really things have gone a bit silly recently. I am gonna stay away for a bit, and only post at the political forums where I apparently belong (and in some peoples eyes should have stayed). I will check around here now and again but no more poltical discussion for me on these boards until after the war has been on everyones TV. See some of you on MSN now and again (if I get the backup PC running soon). Best to let things sit until cooler heads prevail around here.

My reasons?
First read this thread and try to discern if I had done anything wrong. Sorry you can't see the sig I had that caused a commotion , but I took it down to appease some people, but hopefully some of you can remember it, it was about Iraq and WMD and Israel and the 1980's etc.: http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60342.

Secondly check out this pic:
I'm sure you could guess how I feel about this.
You're better than these forums, in these terms in particular. Move on, because for now it's a neverending, repetitive, useless battle.
See you on the front lines.

Rhizome, you're one of the most sensible, well respected members in these forums and when I see a thread that you made (with a respectable title :rolleyes: ) I make sure I read it.

Good luck with your PC (Kiwis... making PCs:crazyboy: )

No wonder "some" people think these forums are sh!t and boring........cause as soon as someone comes in with a bit different opinion (i'm not talking about rascist opinions and sh!t) bam! The hammer falls!...... :kader:

I'm surprised to see Paul having a problem with it........i wonder why really........ :confused:

wat??? you aren't even staying around for your 2000 posts? :crazyboy:

No...please stay :(

Hi Aaron.

First of all, you should know that this is your decision alone, and my purpose here is not to replace you in that matter. You're a responsible adult, an intelligent person, who knows what's best for him.

Perhaps the most important thing I got to say is that Paul's views are not SG's. He is acting in a very immature fashion, trying to censoring what is good discussions, that most of us feel they're relevant. The day that SG censors people's opinions (that aren't breaking any rule) is the day I leave to never come back.
So let us make it clear: you are having a discussion with two members of this forum, Paul and his brother, and not with Soccergaming.
Again, if you feel that, because you're not getting along at the present time with 2 people, you should leave, that's your decision.

I've come across similar battles since I've joined this forum. Most of you don't know about it, since they take place in the boardroom. I have to be honest - sometimes I get a bit disappointed and feel like leaving. But I don't. I haven't, at least. We're all learning here, and quitting sometimes means losing; others just mean that we got better things to do. You decide which one suits you best, man...

If you do leave, then I can just say how sorry I am, and how sorry Paul should be. It's great loss to the forums. Hopefully, we'll still talk on MSN here and there.

EDIT: I'm closing the thread. You made your point, so lets not get this discussion out of proportion. ;)

As Hugo says - things like this have happened before and will happen again. God knows it's easy to become disillusioned and say 'sod this' and bugger off. But as has been said before these boards will become immeasurably poorer for the loss of your good self. I urge you to reconsider...please stay!

All you guys are making this whole episode sound like a freakin melodramatic soap opera !

its a forum ffs !

And since everyone is entitled to state their views, Paul is no different...... and if his views can make a person leave - then so be it.

Originally posted by IceBlu
All you guys are making this whole episode sound like a freakin melodramatic soap opera !

That's bcs we like Aaron. Wouldn't be the same if some others said they were going to leave...



Originally posted by IceBlu
And since everyone is entitled to state their views, Paul is no different...... and if his views can make a person leave - then so be it.

Of course everybody is entitled to their views.
I thought this whole thing came about bcs Paul didn't want poltical discussions on this board. Yeah, it's just a board, so what's the problem with people talking about the war? And where's the right to state our views now?

I think we should let this issue go. Everybody's (still) free to talk and make their decisions about leaving or staying...

I agree with Ice. Some people get way too attached to these message boards. And, it sounds like Rhizome is making a bid deal out of nothing.

Who the hell cares man.

I admit I will miss Rhizome's more high brow threads.

The reason I dont post in any of the political threads is to avoid the insults that Rhizome has endured. If I posted my views on Iraq I would offend so many people.....

-C

Originally posted by ChelseaFan88
If I posted my views on Iraq I would offend so many people.....

-C No, this is a forum where everyone can say their opinion if it doesn't insult anyone.
But we can discuss everything :D

Originally posted by vince15
No, this is a forum where everyone can say their opinion if it doesn't insult anyone.
But we can discuss everything :D My reputation here is sh!t enough as it is without me voicing my views on Iraq ;)

-C

Originally posted by ChelseaFan88
My reputation here is sh!t enough as it is without me voicing my views on Iraq ;)

-C Maybe don't post boost so much :p

Originally posted by Nimreitz
Hey man, don't depreive the forum of your insightful opinions just because some doosh bag thinks differently than you. There is more support for your opinions than there is for censorship, after all this is supposed to be a haven for free speech. If people are morons, as some have been in this case, just forget about them, but the forum will suffer for awhile without you.

totally agree

Originally posted by INFESTA
The day that SG censors people's opinions (that aren't breaking any rule) is the day I leave to never come back.


1. I "left" the non-football forums, because one of my post
was censored\deleted.
(needless to say it hadn't got any racist\cursing approach)

2. with all the respect for Rhizo, all those post shows something,
if you act like you're a superstar, people will belive you're one.
or in other words: if you'll copy and paste other's wise words,
people will see you as an inteligent individual.

to summit it up: I have nothing against Rhizo or anybody else,
but I can't say I'm sad cause he's leaving...

plus, as I don't want to be dragged into arguing again,
but I must responed to some idiotic compare which was made in
other topic here, between Bush & Hitler.
something which made me go mad...

How defective can a person be?
this new generation don't know or care from jack,
I'm not saying go to Bergen Belzen or Auschwitz,
but at least watch the History Channel or something
before you even think of saying something like that.

"Arbeit Macht Frei", you know what it is?
think & learn before you make a stupid compares like that again!

Originally posted by IceBlu
All you guys are making this whole episode sound like a freakin melodramatic soap opera !

its a forum ffs !

And since everyone is entitled to state their views, Paul is no different...... and if his views can make a person leave - then so be it.
He's simply letting us know why he's leaving. I think an explanation, especially if he wants to give one, is fully appropriate for a member that has 1,400+ posts in a matter of months; 1,400+ posts that have probably made most of us have an opinion one way or another about the guy.

Sure it's a forum "FFS", but it's a forum that you've posted an obscene amounts of posts on and I'm sure the same "FFS" could('ve) been said to you on numerous occasions.

I agree with your last statement, but I don't see a problem with Aaron making a last point/stand about something he sees as an injustice--something he's (was) making a living off of on SG.

You are only adding to the "melodrama" by ******dly opposing it.


It's obviously totally up to Aaron if he wants to leave and whether his reasons are justified or not (it is just a forum, i guess). Maybe he doesn't need to make it an issue, and he could just let it fizz out, but that's not his style. ;) If he does go, the forums will be lesser for it, which is a shame. He will join S_B_J as an omnipresent ghost I'm sure.

The forums don't need to be hurtin' any more than they all ready are; I've resorted to posting old forwards "ffs".:read::$ (:/)

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
I agree with Ice. Some people get way too attached to these message boards. And, it sounds like Rhizome is making a bid deal out of nothing.

Who the hell cares man.


Aren't you the one who was b!tching some time ago, cause you were concerned about all these so called "Anti-USA" thread (which of course weren't anti-american at all).............looks like YOU DO care............like most people in here...... :rolleyes:



And i agree with Yash, that everyone is entitled to their opinions,,,,,,but it seems to me someone is just trying to take those opinions away from people, simply because they don't agre with them ? :kader:

My general rule in the forums is to only take seriously those who I recall making numerous intelligent posts. Despite some 5400 odd posts I don't remember Paul having one, therefore I cannot even respect his arguement in any way (especially since he's clearly wrong here). Guys like rhizome and Neutral cause a stir when they leave because they contribute intelligent posts on a consistent basis. Even if you don't agree with them, they make you think.

This has happened before too. He made a damn opinion that aparently some specific person didnt understand or didnt want to understand. This specific person seems like they didnt read the rules. Rhizome is a very good person who has lot of good point of views on things. Maybe some people couldnt take it? And like INFESTA says the day that SG censors opinions is the day i leave too. Im tired of some immature peopple that dont even know what they talk about half the time thinking theyre sure of it all and making dumb mistakes like this.
Hope to see you around Rhizome because i dont think this is a valid reason for you to leave. I think you should stay and that specific person should leave instead. Guys better watch what you say he might delete our posts too.

Originally posted by Sukur54
Guys better watch what you say he might delete our posts too.

Who cares? Some things need to be said.

Originally posted by Dragan T
Aren't you the one who was b!tching some time ago, cause you were concerned about all these so called "Anti-USA" thread (which of course weren't anti-american at all).............looks like YOU DO care............like most people in here...... :rolleyes:


Yea, I care about my country, but I dont take things personally on these forums. At least not anymore.

Labrujita has called me a ****ing idiot plenty of times. Am i gonna cry about it? no.:D

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx


Labrujita has called me a ****ing idiot plenty of times. Am i gonna cry about it? no.:D
Haha;)
It's funny you say that, because recently I've realized that despte recalling insulting you on several occasions, you treat me with a lot of respect; it's unsettling, yet a sign of maturiy, surely.

I say we have an Airing of Grievances, Festivus style, amongst the major members of this forum.:confused: :f***:

Originally posted by The True
2. with all the respect for Rhizo, all those post shows something,
if you act like you're a superstar, people will belive you're one.
or in other words: if you'll copy and paste other's wise words,
people will see you as an inteligent individual.


Er, min, he doesnt just go to "www.informationaboutthewaroniraqbinladenandotheris sues.com" He LOOKS for them, reads them ALL, then SUMS IT UP in his OWN WORDS. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by LaBrujita
Haha;)
It's funny you say that, because recently I've realized that despte recalling insulting you on several occasions, you treat me with a lot of respect; it's unsettling, yet a sign of maturiy, surely.

I say we have an Airing of Grievances, Festivus style, amongst the major members of this forum.:confused: :f***:

You're one of the few members that I respect alot. It's cool talking hockey with you.

Yea, I've said some stupid ****e, but haven't we all.

hahahahahaah, well Paul shoud be known for this kind of stuff. I really don't pay attention to him...... As Rhizome, man, you do take politics a bit too far in this forum, but it's all cool. Even though I disagree with some of your ideas/interpretations, I still think you might have sometihng intellectual to say;) ;)
Do you really cares what Paul has to say man, if you're not breaking the rules, then why make such a big fuss out of nothing.


Now, back to my rum&coke mix.....

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
It's cool talking hockey with you.
Likewise, we should do it more often.


Yea, I've said some stupid ****e, but haven't we all.
*in Jim Carrey lisp-voice from the Cable Guy, when he's outside Steven's apartment in the rain. C'mon, you know what I'm talking about, right?: Soooo...what are you trying to say?;)

Originally posted by LaBrujita
He's simply letting us know why he's leaving. I think an explanation, especially if he wants to give one, is fully appropriate for a member that has 1,400+ posts in a matter of months; 1,400+ posts that have probably made most of us have an opinion one way or another about the guy.

Sure it's a forum "FFS", but it's a forum that you've posted an obscene amounts of posts on and I'm sure the same "FFS" could('ve) been said to you on numerous occasions.

I agree with your last statement, but I don't see a problem with Aaron making a last point/stand about something he sees as an injustice--something he's (was) making a living off of on SG.

You are only adding to the "melodrama" by ******dly opposing it.


It's obviously totally up to Aaron if he wants to leave and whether his reasons are justified or not (it is just a forum, i guess). Maybe he doesn't need to make it an issue, and he could just let it fizz out, but that's not his style. If he does go, the forums will be lesser for it, which is a shame. He will join S_B_J as an omnipresent ghost I'm sure.

The forums don't need to be hurtin' any more than they all ready are; I've resorted to posting old forwards "ffs".


Firstly, my punctuations and abbreviations may not be upto your satisfaction Mr. Professor....

Next, I did not add to the melodrama - i just tried to curb it coz it was looking pretty darn ridiculous with ' I'm gonna sit in a corner and cry ' posts.

and yes, it IS a forum FFS. And yes i have an 'obscene' post count but i don't expect myself to be immortalized in some hall of fame i couldn't care less about. And feel free to use as many FFS's against me. I DO NOT CARE. I'm not going to lose sleep if some random LaBrujita doesn't send me a Christmas Card :|

"If he does go, the forums will be lesser for it, which is a shame. He will join S_B_J as an omnipresent ghost I'm sure." - Ooooo :| Im sure you're gonna talk to your kids and grandkids about the legends of RHIZOME17 and SBJ...

and if you feel the need to make up for your real-life deficiencies by posting smart-ass, punctuated posts and think you're smart....well, BE MY GUEST.

LOL:D :D :D :D

Originally posted by IceBlu
Firstly, my punctuations and abbreviations may not be upto your satisfaction Mr. Professor....

Next, I did not add to the melodrama - i just tried to curb it coz it was looking pretty darn ridiculous with ' I'm gonna sit in a corner and cry ' posts.

and yes, it IS a forum FFS. And yes i have an 'obscene' post count but i don't expect myself to be immortalized in some hall of fame i couldn't care less about. And feel free to use as many FFS's against me. I DO NOT CARE. I'm not going to lose sleep if some random LaBrujita doesn't send me a Christmas Card :|

"If he does go, the forums will be lesser for it, which is a shame. He will join S_B_J as an omnipresent ghost I'm sure." - Ooooo :| Im sure you're gonna talk to your kids and grandkids about the legends of RHIZOME17 and SBJ...

and if you feel the need to make up for your real-life deficiencies by posting smart-ass, punctuated posts and think you're smart....well, BE MY GUEST.
I'll edit this post tonight when I get home, but all I'll say now is:
It feels like you're spreading the sarcasm and spite pretty thick here.:confused:

Originally posted by LaBrujita
I'll edit this post tonight when I get home, but all I'll say now is:
It feels like you're spreading the sarcasm and spite pretty thick here.:confused:

Gee :| you think so ?

I bet you're gonna skip school to write reply to 'Iceblu' :p

Originally posted by Deutschland
Er, min, he doesnt just go to "www.informationaboutthewaroniraqbinladenandotheris sues.com" He LOOKS for them, reads them ALL, then SUMS IT UP in his OWN WORDS. :rolleyes:
that what I was talking about...:rolleyes:
(I don't like to use the "roll-eyes", it's insulting, but as you used it...)
this guy have copied and pasted all those loooooong articles,
only after about 8 comments (here and at Soccered's forums)
calling him to say something wise of his own,
he started to write things in his own words.

Originally posted by The True
that what I was talking about...:rolleyes:
(I don't like to use the "roll-eyes", it's insulting, but as you used it...)
this guy have copied and pasted all those loooooong articles,
only after about 8 comments (here and at Soccered's forums)
calling him to say something wise of his own,
he started to write things in his own words.
I wasnt trying to offend you, but some people are just too sensitive these days :rolleyes: (jk)

erhm, how long ago was this? People change :brow:

haha mate, it's ok... I wasn't offended at all.

how long ago? I can't recall, long enough.
and he haven't changed, he just saw those comments,
and understood that nobody actually read those articles,
as they too long, and not his words, so he changed it.:)

Originally posted by INFESTA
Perhaps the most important thing I got to say is that Paul's views are not SG's. He is acting in a very immature fashion, trying to censoring what is good discussions, that most of us feel they're relevant

I think you over rate yourself. Calling me immature for disagree'ing with you? wow :|

why dont you support your argument and hold a non bias vote on whether or not these forums should be over run with political nonsense :|

not being 30, and thinking like you does NOT make me immature .... if rhizome thinks emotional blackmail is appropriate good for him, I'm not going to apologize or take back what i said cause its my opinion.

and next time, I'd appreciate it that my private conversations stay private, oh but thats right .... I cant have privacy cause its "Censorship" :|

hugo ... governments use censorship, i'd call it "toning down the un-necessary threads that have to meaning to this board".

Originally posted by Paul
I think you over rate yourself. Calling me immature for disagree'ing with you? wow :|

why dont you support your argument and hold a non bias vote on whether or not these forums should be over run with political nonsense :|

not being 30, and thinking like you does NOT make me immature .... if rhizome thinks emotional blackmail is appropriate good for him, I'm not going to apologize or take back what i said cause its my opinion.

and next time, I'd appreciate it that my private conversations stay private, oh but thats right .... I cant have privacy cause its "Censorship" :|

hugo ... governments use censorship, i'd call it "toning down the un-necessary threads that have to meaning to this board".
Paul, in the evidence that rhizome provided, it shows that it was your brother going off topic and flaming. And he also gave screenshots of you contradicting something that you said to him. What is wrong with non football/fifa related topics being posted in the non football/fifa related forum :|?

Originally posted by Paul
I think you over rate yourself. Calling me immature for disagree'ing with you? wow

I didn't call you immature bcs you disagreed with me. Actually, I'd say this is a case of me disagreeing with you, since you started a thread and I answered it back.
You're immature bcs you're brother looked stupid in that incident with Aaron and now you're trying to stir things up. Want another proof? Just look at how you treated Alex, who is one of the finest guys here, in the SGF Administration thread. :kader:

You're becoming really obnoxious lately, and you're only hearing it from me bcs, unlike others, I don't talk on your back.
Maybe it's time for you to reflect about your behaviour of late. He who warns you is your friend.

And I'm not replying to you anymore, regarding this issue, no matter what you say or do.
Obviously, I'm going to keep posting, whether it's in political threads or not.

Originally posted by LaBrujita
[B]Likewise, we should do it more often.




Although it should be noted both the Canucks and the Flyers are no match for the State of Hockey.

Originally posted by INFESTA
You're becoming really obnoxious lately, and you're only hearing it from me bcs, unlike others, I don't talk on your back.
Maybe it's time for you to reflect about your behaviour of late. He who warns you is your friend.

I think you should take this seriously Paul, i must agree with Hugo, you have been a dick to people lately. You are acting like me a few months ago, when Hugo said pretty much the same thing to me.... and I think it helped me (C)

___

As for Aaron leaving... thats a shame, coz I felt like I was learning something from his posts :(

Well i think its time for my 5 cents (like no one saw it coming!)

Im a very opinonated person as you all know but im not here to stir things up, nor critizes anyone (even if it appears to be)!.

When I came here in the middle of 2002 I found this forum quite interesting with all the stuff on FIFA and only went to FIFA2002 forum for tech-help. then I started visiting this forum which seemed really interesting people discussing music, politics (remember Sept 11th Threads were still going) etc etc....

There was little to no flaming until i put myself (wrongly) in the cross-fire between Lui and Pauls big bust up which also included Callan..... Now between then and now I meet afew people to whom i clicked with - most of the admins as i find there attitude to be extremely high standard

People like Skip, JTNY, Parra Power to whom I talk on a regular basis and will continue to do so.....

But what i have found in recent weeks - is the stinch of **** that seems to be filling this forum

Going back to the mod elections: I asked Alex (Skip) why there was going to be change - because Matt wanted it to be changed (which i thought - OK it is his forum) then Gareth returned (again asked Alex) why is he back - Matt gave him a second chance
There all fine but i have come to realise is - this is no longer Matts forum - its the mods.....

Paul isnt the only one who has been swinging his weight around - i dont know what is being said in the boardroom but what i will say is here:

Im leaving also as most of you are aware i hardly visit this forum as finally i have a life im comfortable with - the only reason i visited this forum was because of a rough patch in my life - friends and relatives where on my back and i needed a few new friends socialising with the real world wasnt my cup-of-tea in the end....

I enjoyed this forum but really is it worth coming here day after day to be flamed or be the flamer, to critize a former ally on this forum etc etc.

Im sick of the BS that is this forum - mods critize mods, people critize people to the ends of the earth before mods step in.

I understand why Rhizome, Skip and many others have left in recent times and you can add me to that list....

I dont care what people will reply to like "your an idiot" or "please dont leave" i always critized those people who did so, so dont bother with it as probably i wont read it - i find it lame and self-serving to read those things - like it was a cry for attention.

to the people at FIFAOceania:
The NSL patch and the World Cup/NSL tipping threads
I will no longer be apart of any of it - sorry i will send the access file of the dbi file if anyone wants it but since no one except Parra Power wanted to help me in finishing it then really i dont see the importance of it.

Im certainly not saying im never going to post here again its just this FORUM is NOT WORTH THE ****. people GROW UP and as someone said dont take this forum seriously but if your taken seriously as a few of us arnt then leave.

Dont bother replying im not going to read it.

Damn, another friendly member is leaving :(

I wish you all the best in real life mate :)

well, cya!! :D

Rhizome don't forget that forum i showed ya, LOT OF POLITIC BASHING THERE ;)

Alot of people are leaving all of a sudden.. most of them highly respected mins.

Originally posted by JoeState of Hockey.
Hawaii?

Originally posted by IceBluI bet you're gonna skip school to write reply to 'Iceblu' [quote]
Actually, that post was at 9 something at night. Sorry to disappoint.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by IceBlu

and yes, it IS a forum FFS. And yes i have an 'obscene' post count but i don't expect myself to be immortalized in some hall of fame i couldn't care less about. And feel free to use as many FFS's against me. I DO NOT CARE. I'm not going to lose sleep if some random LaBrujita doesn't send me a Christmas Card :| I'm hurt that you aren't hurt by my lack of feelings for you.

"If he does go, the forums will be lesser for it, which is a shame. He will join S_B_J as an omnipresent ghost I'm sure." - Ooooo :| Im sure you're gonna talk to your kids and grandkids about the legends of RHIZOME17 and SBJ...
I was simply acknowledging Rhizome's (and SBJ's) contributions as individuals to this forum, and the fact that he, Rhizome, will be one of those members that is mentioned, from time to time, well after his exit (i.e. SBJ).
Thanks for that though. Next time I'll just tell the guy to ****-off.

you feel the need to make up for your real-life deficiencies by posting smart-ass, punctuated posts and think you're smart....well, BE MY GUEST.
A) You know nothing about my personal life whatsoever. If you want me to talk about myself in detail and let you look at the glaring deficienies, just ask. Don't make assumptions, I'd be happy to put something out there that we can discuss specifically.


B) I tend to make fairly punctual posts, yes. I'm pretty sure, however, that it has nothing to do with personal defiencies. It may have something to do with thinking I'm smart; maybe my self-respect and self-standards makes me want to make every post worthwhile. It might also be because I'm an english student, so me like english proper.

I also don't want to post the same old nonsensical bull**** that 95% of forum (not just sg) members do--it's boring. I find when my posts start heading that way I realize it's uselessness, and I generally stop posting for quite awhile.

You may have noticed that post mostly in the topics with some sort of interesting/controversial topic. I'm not here to make friends or talk about my life (adjudged by your lack of knowledge of who I am), I'm here because of repetition, habit, and, originally, because of the (diminishing) presence of some culturally and ethically diverse, interesting, controversial topics.


C) I see no problem with certain people's angst (now I'm just having fun with it) to the loss of Rhizome. He was, afterall, a highly knowledgable poster. The thing is, there's a huge variation in the level of reason for viewing and participating in this particular forum. Some are here for fun, ****s and giggles, while others are here for politics, ethics, and some mental stimulation. The people at the more extreme end of the latter were, more often than not, interested in many of Rhizome's opinions, or the opinions that he supplied. To some, these posts were over-the-top or over-their-heads; to others, it was a continual, or somewhat-continual, stream of readable material on relevant topics.

It's not the end of the world; it is just a forum/a forum member. But it's all relative: Making a pretty big deal about it on SG should, then, translate as a moderate to minimal "deal" in real life, if you catch my drift.

The point is, he wasn't your standard poster, and, in that, he is a loss to a major aspect of the forum.

These forums at the moment are full of fighting.......


Fights always seem to revolve around a certain someone...... (j/k)

Yet......... everyone should calm down.


Why doesn't everyone just let everyone else post what they like unless it is rude/racist/against rules etc.

There is no need to talk ill of what someone says if it doesn't break the rules. You can disagree with someone on an issue, fair enough, but if it something like someone using good punctuation (just an example) there is no need. There is no need to have arguments on very trivial matters.


EDIT: Sad to see you go Zul.

Originally posted by JTNY
These forums at the moment are full of fighting.......

Why doesn't everyone just let everyone else post what they like unless it is rude/racist/against rules etc.





You know, if we were all gay, we wouldn't care when someone else ****ed us in the ass...:o

Originally posted by INFESTA (...) unlike others, I don't talk on your back.

I really admire this. :)

It's sad when people leave forums.
It is even sadder when people leave forums because they feel they are being censored.
Knowing Rhizome and his politics, the censored material was most probably something that I would disagree 100% with. However, this is supposedly a website where all opinions can be aired, whether we like them or not.
The people who have forced Rhizome off the forum, have robbed not just myself, but everyone here someone who knows his stuff, and THEY SHOULD HANG THEIR HEADS IN SHAME!

Rhizome is most probably the most intelligent thinker on this forum, and personally should've won the moderator election. I can very much understand why you are leaving, in fact I have thinking along those lines recently myself. He has changed my opinions slightly on a lot of things, some which have come to me in the past week, most probably since I begun reading Michael Moore's Stupid White Men which is beginning to have the desired effect on me.

Nice knowing you, and keep believing in what you believe in. In these times that we live in, it is brilliant that there are still some who will stand up for what they believe in. Regardless of the consequences.

Originally posted by zul-aid
to the people at FIFAOceania:
The NSL patch and the World Cup/NSL tipping threads
I will no longer be apart of any of it - sorry i will send the access file of the dbi file if anyone wants it but since no one except Parra Power wanted to help me in finishing it then really i dont see the importance of it.

Wow, 2 Oceanians leaving in such a short period of time :(

It's going to be a dark and lonely place in Oceania for a while... :(

Originally posted by Robert Roberts
He has changed my opinions slightly on a lot of things, some which have come to me in the past week, most probably since I begun reading Michael Moore's Stupid White Men which is beginning to have the desired effect on me.

Sling me some right wing stuff then. I doubt it will change my mind, but I'm always open to reading their arguments so I can think of ways to rebut..;)

Stupid White Men is the book I own but never have because it's always on loan..:(

Originally posted by leungtl
Wow, 2 Oceanians leaving in such a short period of time :(

It's going to be a dark and lonely place in Oceania for a while... :(
Are the voices coming back, leungtl? :brow: :evil:

Originally posted by Everyone On This Thread


Wowsers!

I don't really like the whole 'it's just the internet (it's just a message board)' argument in this situation, mainly because feelings and emotions can be just as real as real life. Some people can get passionate about their opinions, internet or not (i'm one of those). Obviously, some rednecks and morons get married without really knowing each other first over the internet; some idiots do things like make physical threats against other people over the internet, but in this case it's more than that. To me, Rhizome seemed extremely annoyed (understatement) about this and I can understand why. Although I did not agree with much he said because I am pro-America and I also could be quoted as saying something like, "every post in this forum is basically anti-US and it's tiring," I never asked that members just take their opinions and stick it up their ass. All I meant for is that, "can we talk about something else for a change?"

I mean, the posts on this thread from Rhizome make Paul look really dumb, and I believe someone else had said it best with something like, "Rhizome has made 1400+ posts, mostly intelligent - out of your 5400, I can't recall one intelligent post."

By no means am I claiming all my posts are gold, but I know that i've made some decent posts before; give me a topic i'm pretty knowledgable about and i'll give you intelligent posts.

Rhizome always had something to say, but things that normally educated me or had strong backup. When I had the time, I enjoyed reading what he had to say. I'm sure he'll make his way back again, if someone thinks that a message board is important enough to make an immense number of great posts on, then that person probably couldn't just forget about it.

This does not have to do with the topic really, but when you talk about people criticizing bad grammar, punctuation, etc., IceBlue, and say that it does not matter... I do agree that it is very petty, but also know that just like in the real world, how you portray your appearance to others makes a difference, even when it should not. More often than not, people who are putting thought into what they say are going to be more careful to use the language well. I guarentee that if you took two people of the same intelligence and one said, "I believe that I should get the job because I am the most qualified." but the other said, "i belive i should get the job b cuz im most qualified," then who is going to be taken seriously?

Rest assured, juventusita, even if you hadn't made an inteligent post before then, you now have. ;)

Well i haven't been here long but ive definetely enjoyed reading Rhizome's posts. Anyway good luck, its a big bad and politically unstable world out there so your going to need all the luck.