Im hating the spurs right now so I'll love to see Dallas win it all :rockman:

Dallas vs Spurs & Nets vs Pistons !! :rockman: :)

Hell yeah the Mavs won Game one :rockman:

http://www.nba.com/media/mavericks/mavs_254_030519.jpg

the Nets can beat dallas or SA!

did yall see thierry henry at the SA Spurs and Mavs game?

He's good friends with Tony Parker.

they were showin the players before the game and henry was sittin next to him. Henry's my fav soccer player thats why i asked.

-thanx-

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Cleveland Cavaliers won the NBA Draft Lottery so they'll take James...
i wonder what will they do with the starting lineup, lebron for miles of davis???
i don't think hat these guys would tolerate such a thing...
i see a trade coming...

:kader:

yeah there has to be a trade coming. theres to many egos there and ball hogs and u know when lebron gets ther he is gonna be the #1 option so a trade has to come(maybe for a pg)

Rickey Davis will leave, the guys crazy, and also not even that good. It doesn't take much to be the highest scorer on a bad team.

Darko to Detroit, Carmello to Denver also.

yea i agree with you on that. I was wonderin about what yall thought about tj ford leavin early? Do you think it was the right decision?

I think that if a player is ranked as highly as TJ you HAVE to go, the only exception in this draft is Emeka Okafor, who I think should stay, just to hone his skills. TJ could slide if he doesn't come in this year, Okafor is top 5 whenever he comes in, probably top 3. Ford is just too small to take any chances. He can't really do much more in college to help his draft stock, but he could destroy it. Good decision.

I think that TJ Ford should have stayed on at Texas for at least one more year. He could of had the opportunity of winning a national title. Besides, he doesn't have a very good jump shot anyway so he will have an even tougher time getting adjusted. He should have waited. That's my opinion, though.

Dirk Nowitski hyper extended his knee during the game tonight and didnt come back. If he cant play the next couple of games the series will go to the spurs. Dont you think?

Originally posted by ManU2000
I think that TJ Ford should have stayed on at Texas for at least one more year. He could of had the opportunity of winning a national title. Besides, he doesn't have a very good jump shot anyway so he will have an even tougher time getting adjusted. He should have waited. That's my opinion, though.

When you put it in the perspective of an NBA Career, the NCAA title doesn't really mean much though for an individual player, and of course there's always the chance that you lose and wasted a year you could have been playing against the best players in the world. Jason Kidd has never been a shooter either, and he's had a decent career.

Memphis got f-ing screwed.
Could have only kept there pick if it was number 1 (also known as LeBron), and given up their pick next year.
Didn't get LeBron.
Would have had Darko at #2....now Detroit gets it.
Maybe there'll be a LeBron and Darko in next years draft:kader:.
That Franchise has a good draft record.
Bryant Reeves.....retired....Steve Francis...wouldn't come to Canada....Stromile Swift....is mentally challenged...Antonio Daniels...role player at best....

From what I hear/read about Darko, I'd take him over Carmello no problem.
Darko over LeBron? Haven't seen Darko.

Rickey Davis is a ******* loser. After I saw him go for that triple-double, I hope he dies...soon.
He's probably at home pouting that they have LeBron, who's better than him in every way at 19. He'll get a bigger salary, a bigger shoe deal, more minutes, more points....I'll stop. Davis will have to go, I can't see him mentally dealing with it.



......The Mavs should trade Shawn Bradley for Darko.

pau gasol wasnt a bad pick though. And lebron james got payed 90 million dollar shoe deal with nike for 7 years, plus a 10 million dollar signing bonus just to write his name. He also signed a 5 year, 5 million dollar deal with upperdeck to make his trading cards and memoribilia.... thats insane if you ask me

the latest drafts have sucked big except for a few like yao (and I mean in the top 10).

cause for example jay williams and tyson chandler and eddy curry for chicago-------> disaster :nape:

and Stromile Swift and Shane Battier for the grizz -------> more disaster :nape:


and then also Nikoloz Tskitishvili in denver, Kwame Brown in washington, Mike Dunleavy in golden state and Dajuan Wagner in cleveland ------------> ALL DISASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:kader:

and Amare Stoudemire turned out to be the best out of them all. He's gonna be like shawn Kemp when he was in his prime in seattle. Do yall agree?

Originally posted by Hakeem
the latest drafts have sucked big except for a few like yao (and I mean in the top 10).

cause for example jay williams and tyson chandler and eddy curry for chicago-------> disaster :nape:
Agree with Jay, it was his first year though, but Chandler and Curry played a good season. Both came from Highschool, what did you expect? Even Kobe, T-Mac or KG needed a few years.

it was a really big shame that the RAPS couldnt get top 3 :( .. no darko kids .. or carmello or lebron

Originally posted by Savo
it was a really big shame that the RAPS couldnt get top 3 :( .. no darko kids .. or carmello or lebron


I think Darko is from serbia too, so have u seen him play? And do u think hes good? Ive only seen a few highlights and on tv they said he plays like dirk so he sounds good.

Originally posted by Nimreitz
When you put it in the perspective of an NBA Career, the NCAA title doesn't really mean much though for an individual player, and of course there's always the chance that you lose and wasted a year you could have been playing against the best players in the world. Jason Kidd has never been a shooter either, and he's had a decent career.

Yeah, that's true. Well, it was just my opinion on the matter. That's all.

Originally posted by LaBrujita

Rickey Davis is a ******* loser. After I saw him go for that triple-double, I hope he dies...soon.


I remember seing that on ESPN. The guy's a f*cking moron. Jerry Sloan said he would of knocked Davis out if he were out on the court after the game.:D

Originally posted by LilPlayaJosh
and Amare Stoudemire turned out to be the best out of them all. He's gonna be like shawn Kemp when he was in his prime in seattle. Do yall agree?

he's that good already :rockman:

Originally posted by Hakeem
he's that good already :rockman:



he played good against Duncan in the playoffs

Originally posted by LilPlayaJosh
he played good against Duncan in the playoffs
Yeah, Him and those two or three other players guarding Duncan did do a good job.

Originally posted by PScott
Yeah, Him and those two or three other players guarding Duncan did do a good job.


lol thats true

Who will win New Jersey or Dal/SA in the Finals? I think New Jersey can win because Jason Kidd is getting better and better as they get deeper in the playoffs.

yeah but west teams have too much power.

unbeatable. I think that even the suns would've win the finals if they would've get there

Spurs 102
Mavericks 95

san antonio is going to the finals.
3-1 and next game is at home

Originally posted by Hakeem
yeah but west teams have too much power.

unbeatable. I think that even the suns would've win the finals if they would've get there
I have to disagree with this.

The only team that even had a chance at winning the title from the east made it to the finals. New Jersey. If you have watched them at all this year, you will have noticed that they play kind of similar to Phoenix. Just with more fast break points because they have kid. With that style of play(very athletic, very skilled) i think they have more than a good chance of winning against San Antonio.

Marbury - Kidd ( a healthy Marbury might have been what the Suns needed to advance past the Spurs. He pwned Parker. Kidd will most likely do the same.)
Marion - Jefferson ( Pretty similar players. Slashers who can finish. Jefferson offers nothing special. )
Stoudemire - K-Mart ( Stoudemire did do a decent job with Duncan. The fact that K-Mart has more experience and is more offensice will give Duncan more trouble. I think if Martin has a good series that the Nets' chances of winning are very good.)

I dont know though. Thats just how i see it. True, the nets would have been killed by a healthy Sac Kings or the Lakers, but San Antonio showed that they can be beat.

This might seem like jibberish, but i tried to explain the best i could.

i havent followed the NBA since 96, (lol i know) But the team ive always followed is Milwaukee, they still the same team that 'just' falls short of a playoff spot?

Vin Baker was my favourite player, but last time i check on nba.com he was like a bench player at some other club. Ahh well.

Anyways, since i never liked David Robinson, i hope Spurs dont win it. Remember the Dallas trio of JJJ (Jamal, Jason and ???) forgot the other ****s name, yeah well we know Jason Kidd is at NJ doing wonders, what about the other 2? Where are they at?

Well anyway, i hope NJ win the title.

Originally posted by John_Arne_Riise
i havent followed the NBA since 96, (lol i know) But the team ive always followed is Milwaukee, they still the same team that 'just' falls short of a playoff spot?

Vin Baker was my favourite player, but last time i check on nba.com he was like a bench player at some other club. Ahh well.

Anyways, since i never liked David Robinson, i hope Spurs dont win it. Remember the Dallas trio of JJJ (Jamal, Jason and ???) forgot the other ****s name, yeah well we know Jason Kidd is at NJ doing wonders, what about the other 2? Where are they at?

Well anyway, i hope NJ win the title.

For your first question yeah milwaukee lost in the first round this year. And Jamal Mashburn plays for New Orleans Hornets where he was an all-star for the first time this year, and Jim Jackson plays for Sac Kings and was sometimes during the playoffs one of there best players once webber got hurt(not a starter though).

Originally posted by PScott
I have to disagree with this.

The only team that even had a chance at winning the title from the east made it to the finals. New Jersey. If you have watched them at all this year, you will have noticed that they play kind of similar to Phoenix. Just with more fast break points because they have kid. With that style of play(very athletic, very skilled) i think they have more than a good chance of winning against San Antonio.

Marbury - Kidd ( a healthy Marbury might have been what the Suns needed to advance past the Spurs. He pwned Parker. Kidd will most likely do the same.)
Marion - Jefferson ( Pretty similar players. Slashers who can finish. Jefferson offers nothing special. )
Stoudemire - K-Mart ( Stoudemire did do a decent job with Duncan. The fact that K-Mart has more experience and is more offensice will give Duncan more trouble. I think if Martin has a good series that the Nets' chances of winning are very good.)

I dont know though. Thats just how i see it. True, the nets would have been killed by a healthy Sac Kings or the Lakers, but San Antonio showed that they can be beat.

This might seem like jibberish, but i tried to explain the best i could.


yeah they are playing well but I still dont think they can beat west teams in a pleyoffs series.
but we'll see, all I know is that I dont want the spurs to win the championship so I gues I'll be rooting for the nets :)

Larry Brown resigned as coach of the Sixers today.

and Rudy T left Houston too :( :( :(

I hope the Sixers will sign Jeff van Gundy (H)

I hear Larry Brown is going to go coach Lebron

This would make sense. His system is to run the whole offense with one player.

Teams without a coach list:
Philadelphia
New Orleans
Cleveland
Houston

Any other teams. Those are just off the top of my head.

Top unemployed coaches at the moment
Van Gundy
Silas
Brown

What teams do you think these coaches are going to go to.

I think Van Gundy is going to Cleveland. His name is the one i have heard the most when talking about the Cavs.

The others i have no idea. What do the rest of you think.

they say that Brown is going to Houston, just heard the news.

well Van Gundy is being interviewed by Houston. Larry Brown is coaching the Olympic team, so who knows how soon he will be coaching in the NBA.

I dont know how Van Gundy and Iverson would get along. haha.

I heard that Paul Silas is being interviewed by the Sixers as well.

Paul Silas in Philadelphi just sound right. I dont know why, but when i read that i thought it just had the right feel to it. I cant explain it though. :confused:

I just dont want van gundy in houston (:/)

I now have a spine to at least guess.

Brown to Houston
Silas to Philly
Van Gundy to Cleveland

That looks so wrong for so many reasons.:crazyboy: we'll se how i do though

Philly want mo cheeks back from Portland. I heard that yesterday. Also Clippers might go after Brown.

Hawks and Hornets need coachs to, so we will see

Mavericks 103
Spurs 91


the mavs are still fighting :)

yeah but they need big Dirk if they want to win the series.

Originally posted by PScott
Philly want mo cheeks back from Portland. I heard that yesterday. Also Clippers might go after Brown.

We don't want to give up Cheeks, he's the last shred of class we've got on that team. Did you see him helping the girl sing the national anthem during the Dallas series? Priceless.

what a comeback by Dallas Mavericks !! (H) (Y)
I thought they were almost out after the gap of 17 points !!

Well Done Mavericks !! :alex:

I still believe...

C'mon Dallas (H)

I'll start believing once they clear Dirk to play. They can't get lucky three times in a row so he needs to come back. He's easily top 10 player in the league....

Spurs 90
Mavericks 78

that damn Steve Kerr :p

Originally posted by Hakeem
that damn Steve Kerr :p

Yup..what a heroic performance by Steve KERR !! :junior:

F*ck Steve Kerr where the fuxck did he come from? :f***: :f***:

How lucky can you be. Tony Parker is sick and Stever Kerr comes in and takes over.....

Doug Collins is out of Washigton and Brown is rumored to go there

Everyone should read The Sports Guy, Bill Simmons' column at espn page 2 today. It's pretty good.

Robert Carlile if out of Detroit and Larry Brown really wants to go there

Which player do you think means more for there team in the Finals, Tim Duncan or Jason Kidd?

Larry Brown to Detroit.
Silas to Cleveland.
Van Gundy won't coach philly.

Who are the sixers gonna get now?:f***:

Originally posted by LilPlayaJosh
Which player do you think means more for there team in the Finals, Tim Duncan or Jason Kidd?


duncan. if he would be out then the nets would have a chance to the title

To me... Parker wasn't very good on his shoots... Duncan has to practice a bit... the best , to me was Kerr... or Ginobili ;)

And what do you think guys ?

Originally posted by by Trevor Mitchell, rockets.com
Rockets Nab Van Gundy

June 9, 2003 (11:46 a.m. CT) - If reports are true, Jeff Van Gundy will become the next head coach of the Houston Rockets.
After Van Gundy visited Houston last Thursday and Friday to check out the city and his possible new surroundings, he returned home for the weekend to mull over the prospect of accepting the Rockets' offer to succeed Rudy Tomjanovich as coach.

Reports indicate Van Gundy contacted Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson early Monday morning, informing Dawson of his intention to accept the Rockets' offer although no official confirmation from Dawson had been received as of late Monday morning.

It is difficult for some to erase the memory of Van Gundy racing on the court and grabbing Miami Heat center Alonzo Mourning’s leg when Mourning and former Knicks forward Larry Johnson squared off during an Eastern Conference playoff game a few years ago. If nothing else, that incident shows Van Gundy's undying loyalty and willingness to stand up for his players, which instantly commands respect in any locker room. His 248-172 record over seven seasons in New York shows that he does indeed know how to coach.

It will be interesting to see how Van Gundy's coaching style fits in with the second youngest team in the league. Van Gundy is more of an Eastern Conference coach, placing emphasis on defense and allowing no easy baskets. The Rockets have an average defense and definitely could use a little more tenacity defending the great teams in the West, but Houston’s problem this past season was more about offense than anything else.

Steve Francis, Yao Ming and Cuttino Mobley all need to touch the basketball, but the key lies in their patience and getting the ball in the best spot to take advantage of their abilities. Van Gundy coached in the brutal Eastern Conference where 90 points is like 120 in the West. Van Gundy’s Knicks thrived on a bruising power game that most often wasn't pretty but got results.

If this style becomes the new brand of basketball in Houston will Rockets fans be excited? Probably so if Van Gundy can bring victories. The San Antonio Spurs play an ugly style of basketball, but that has propelled them to the brink of an NBA title. Remember the old cliché - winning cures everything.

The question remains - how will Rockets players will respond to Van Gundy? Will Francis be OK with having to run more halfcourt offense instead of using his great athletic ability? Will Mobley be pulled for taking one too many three-pointers? Will Yao be yelled at for not being tough enough in the post?

All of this remains to be seen, but Rockets owner Leslie Alexander and Dawson obviously believe Houston's best chance to return to NBA glory is with Van Gundy at the helm.


I like him. :rockman:

the thing is that I hope he wont go jumping and grabbing players legs like in the past anymore :crazyboy:

The draft should be goood ......... its tommorow at 8 ... i think ... Top 3 should Be Lebron, Milicic and Anthony ... Post any news or articles here ...... thanks

I just heard that the Sixers might trade up.

50th pick is useless anyway.

I'll go with that top 3 too. its kind of a sure thing though carmelo has been getting loads of imnterviews in the last week.

and here's the first round

1. Cleveland Cavaliers
2. Detroit Pistons (from Memphis)
3. Denver Nuggets
4. Toronto Raptors
5. Miami Heat
6. Los Angeles Clippers
7. Chicago Bulls
8. Milwaukee Bucks (from Atlanta)
9. New York Knicks
10. Washington Wizards
11. Golden State Warriors
12. Seattle Sonics
13. Memphis Grizzlies (from Houston)
14. Seattle Sonics (from Milwaukee)
15. Orlando Magic
16. Boston Celtics
17. Phoenix Suns
18. New Orleans Hornets
19. Utah Jazz
20. Boston Celtics (from Philadelphia)
21. Atlanta Hawks (from Indiana)
22. New Jersey Nets
23. Portland Trail Blazers
24. Los Angeles Lakers
25. Detroit Pistons
26. Minnesota Timberwolves
27. Memphis Grizzlies (from Sacramento via Orlando)
28. San Antonio Spurs
29. Dallas Mavericks

i just heard that the first 3 picks are already done, which in a way takes away from the excitement of seeing who would be #1, though in this draft it was well known that it would be Lebron.

Note to ESPN: Tom Tolbert is not half as entertaining as Charles Barkley! Nowhere near it.

GINOBILI!!!

1. Cleveland Cavaliers LeBron James, F, St. Vincent-St. Mary's HS
2. Detroit Pistons (from Memphis) Darko Milicic, F/C, Serbia and Montenegro
3. Denver Nuggets Carmelo Anthony, F, Syracuse
4. Toronto Raptors Chris Bosh, F, Georgia Tech
5. Miami Heat Dwyane Wade, G, Marquette
6. Los Angeles Clippers Chris Kaman, C, Central Michigan
7. Chicago Bulls Kirk Hinrich, G, Kansas
8. Milwaukee Bucks (from Atlanta) T.J. Ford, G, Texas
9. New York Knicks Mike Sweetney, F, Georgetown
10. Washington Wizards Jarvis Hayes, G/F, Georgia
11. Golden State Warriors Mickael Pietrus, G/F, France
12. Seattle Sonics Nick Collison, F, Kansas
13. Memphis Grizzlies (from Houston) Marcus Banks, G, UNLV
14. Seattle Sonics (from Milwaukee) Luke Ridnour, G, Oregon
15. Orlando Magic Reece Gaines, G, Louisville
16. Boston Celtics Troy Bell, G, Boston College
17. Phoenix Suns Zarko Cabarkapa, F/C, Serbia and Montenegro
18. New Orleans Hornets David West, F, Xavier
19. Utah Jazz Aleksandar Pavlovic, F, Serbia and Montenegro
20. Boston Celtics (from Philadelphia) Dahntay Jones, G/F, Duke
21. Atlanta Hawks (from Indiana) Boris Diaw-Riffiod, G/F, France

Seems like Real Madrid are holding on to Lampei contract so they can cash in. They must not realize that the nba will only pay 300 or so thousand dollars.

Really sucks for Lampei.:kader:

but he's right there in the stadium so I guess he's gonna be picked in some position :confused:

Why wasnt Brandin Knight picked? And what about Kueth Duany from Syracuse?

Not a Surprise for Darko, Or Zarko .... Pavlovic #19 ... not bad (H)

was that Polish dude picked at all ??

he was just sitting there :|

they mentioned something about him having a problem ...some sort of a buy out clause from Real Madrid (Real's bball team)...or something like that ..

Lampe was taken 30th overall, the first pick in the second round by the New York Knicks. Before the pick the fans were all chanting "Lampe! Lampe! Lampe!" And it just errupted when they chose him. It was pretty easy to see he was fighting back the tears giving his interview. Crappy FIBA, they say he doesn't have a buyout, eventhough it's known that his buyout was 1.8M. Now that he doesn't get any first round money, he can't pay the part that the NBA is not allowed to pay. So Lampe will be in Spain for at least 2 more years. Pretty ****ty.

How about that Celtics, Grizzlies trade, what a terrible deal for Memphis. Bell is a great athlete and a good player, but certainly not at #16, and Dahante Jones should have been a second rounder.

Also a lot of the foreign hype was overblown, I was thinking maybe 12 would go in the first round, instead only 8 went in the first. In fact there were tons of 4 year college seniors too, which was a big suprise.

Finally, did anyone hear Taricho talking after the 3rd Serb was taken in the first round. He doesn't take the opportunity to say that Yugoslavia is really producing some great basketball players, but instead talks about how it is a war torn country.

Originally posted by Nimreitz

Finally, did anyone hear Taricho talking after the 3rd Serb was taken in the first round. He doesn't take the opportunity to say that Yugoslavia is really producing some great basketball players, but instead talks about how it is a war torn country.
Just because he makes a comment about the situation in which many of the players grew up is in no way a put down to the country or the players they are producing. Its the same thing when they talk about how a player grew up on welfare and this and that.

Originally posted by Nimreitz

Finally, did anyone hear Taricho talking after the 3rd Serb was taken in the first round. He doesn't take the opportunity to say that Yugoslavia is really producing some great basketball players, but instead talks about how it is a war torn country.


Whos Taricho ? :confused: ........... And I missed that part :( ... What did he say ?

Chris Bosh... meh, not a bad pick, maybe he can help the Raptors out next season or the season after that

And the first trade:

Sam Cassell and Earvin Johnson from Milwaukee to Minnesota, they get Joe Smith and Anthony Peeler.

Did Kirk Penney get in?

Hes a New Zealander

Originally posted by Larry
Did Kirk Penney get in?

Hes a New Zealander

nah he missed out on a spot but apparently he's been invited to play for the minnesota timberwolves in the summer league..

Tall Black guard Kirk Penney has missed selection in the NBA draft.

Penney was hoping to be picked up in the second round, but was not one of the 58 players chosen in New York on Friday afternoon.

However, Penney's still confident he can be picked up by a club through trials during the next few months.

The Auckland-born player told reporters on Thursday, "even if I don't get drafted I've got the self belief that I'm going to find a way no matter what."

As a shooting guard Penney was vying for one of the most contested positions in this year's draft, and while his ability to shoot is unquestioned it may be a lack of all-round talent that let him down.

The first round picks are guaranteed three-year contracts, whilst the 29 players drafted in the second round, along with some unsuccessful candidates such as Penney, will play in the Summer League over the next couple of weeks, with their agents trying to secure contracts.


Kirk Penney may soon be wearing the colours of the Minnesota Timberwolves after being invited to attend their summer league, despite missing out on one of the 58 spots in the NBA draft.

Minnesota, who were beaten by the LA Lakers in this year's playoffs, contacted Penney immediately after the draft asking him to go into camp with them.

The Timberwolves did not draft any shooting guards on Friday, choosing English forward Ndudi Ebifor their 26th round one pick and local forward Rick Rickert for their 55th pick in the second round, and Penney is feeling confident of securing a contract.

"I'm glad that Minnesota called because that was the team that I was hoping I would have a chance with," Penney told reporters.

"All the teams know what I can do so it's just trying to find a place on a team, and right now Minnesota look like the best."

And the 22-year-old is philosophical after his absence from the draft.

"I'm pretty much in the same boat as if I got drafted in the second round except no one has my rights, so my options are a lot more open," he explained.

"If you get drafted in the second round that team has your rights and you can only play for that team, so it's a blessing in disguise in a lot of ways.

"There's a bit of prestige that comes with getting drafted, which is nice for the ego thing, but for me it doesn't really matter."

Penney, as a free agent, is now in the same situation as fellow New Zealander Sean Marks and will attend the same tournament in Orlando from July 7-12 - Penney playing for Minnesota and Marks with the Miami Heat.

Also trying to entice Penney after the draft were the Dallas Mavericks and the Houston Rockets, but the Auckland-born player says playing for a good team is not as important as playing for a team with an opening.

"The best opportunity for me now is Minnesota because you don't want to go to a team that's good, that's not important. What's important is that there's an opening for you individually as a player."

Penney admitted he was surprised by some of the Friday's selections - especially from the Atlanta Hawks and Houston Rockets, but that ultimately it doesn't matter.

"Those second round guys don't have anything more except their right to chose a team taken off them," he said.

"I just feel so much more at peace now because I know what I'm doing.

"I know where I'm going, what I'm doing over the next few weeks and what I have to do to make a team."

Penney will fly to Minnesota on Monday to train with the squad before heading to the opening summer league in Orlando from July 7-12.

There are then three more summer league tournaments in Boston, LA and Utah.


Yeh bad luck for him. Whats a summer league? (I know its a league in summer but is it any good?)

Hey, Kirk Penny! Great player, and a former Badger too!!! Go Wisconsin!

Summer League is where rookies mostly go to try and make a team by impressing the hell out of a team. I think it's pretty much open to everyone. Also a lot of first round picks go there to get in shape for the season. Basically it's just a rookie league before the start of the season.

Well overall I'm happy with the Celtics draft choices. Marcus Banks is the point guard we need. Lets hope he flourishes into a great NBA player. The only thing that upset me was that the past 4 years I've followed Boston College and all 4 years I said. "man I wish Troy Bell would be wearing a Celtic uniform when he goes to the NBA." and when David Stern said the Celtics select Troy Bell from Boston College, I was so happy, then 5 minutes later they trade him....heh. It's ok though. In the beginning of the draft I was hoping the Celtics were going to pick up Banks which they did. :)

*bump*

I'm looking forward to the tournament. (H)

I am too :) ... Milicic pulled out of the team ... dunt know whos going to be his replacement .. but we have a veteran and young team .. should be good (H)

Mickaël Pietrus and Boris Diaw-Riffiod :rockman:

Good lord !

those are 2 HUGE moves.

Looks like another year of Lakers dominance coming up next season :kader:

And it seems they are hoping to get Kidd too..

INSANE.

The lakers will be hard to stop next year. I hope San Antonio will buy Jermaine O'Neal and Kidd, would be a great fight between the Lakers and the Spurs.

Their combined age is like 120. Karl Malone cant even run anymore. Plus, Kobe might leave the Lakers anyway, so the Spurs will still dominate them next year.

Kirk Penney sank a pair of 3's for Minnesota in their opening game of the summer league.

Box score:

http://www.proexposure.com/stories/0709b.cfm

Originally posted by IceBlu
And it seems they are hoping to get Kidd too..
That's ridiculous... you can't have the top 2 point guards in the league on the same team! :nape:

How can they pay all those salaries? They better trade Kobe or Shaq. And I thought Minnesota's potential line-up of

Cassell
Hudson
Szczerbiak
Garnett
Nesterovic

looked good. And now just thinking of the Lakers' potential line-up... :wootman: :mad: :f***: :eek:

Originally posted by vince15
I hope San Antonio will buy Jermaine O'Neal and Kidd, would be a great fight between the Lakers and the Spurs.
I hope San Antonio get the **** beat out of them by everyone next year. :)

Originally posted by Run DMB
I hope San Antonio get the **** beat out of them by everyone next year. :)


same :p

Originally posted by IceBlu
And it seems they are hoping to get Kidd too..

The only way that is going to happen is if their is a sign-and-trade with Kidd. Otherwise, we would be over the salary cap even more. Would be nice to have him on the team though(H).

Payton is already sign (by word cuz signing is not allowed yet for this next season) for 4.9 millions.

Karl is waiting in Arkansas with his trucks but I read today that he was willing to sign for even 2 millions (he got paid 20 in utah) if they signed Gary, and they did so malone would be a sure to go to LA now.

predicted lineup:

PG - Gary Payton
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Rick Fox (not sure here but who cares :p )
PF - Karl Malone
C - Shaquille O'neal

this is just too much I think, even if SA signs Jason Kidd.
but if they do sign Kidd, I'd say to Stern to close all the other teams just play all year games between Los Angeles, San Antonio, Sacramento and Dallas. They could get Portland to make more games and even Orlando to make it more fun but the rest of the teams can just stay home and watch those teams play and get rings for years to come :crazyboy: :rockman:

That's too damn much...insane

how come no big stars ever wanna go to the Raptors? :p

stupid Lakers, they're turning into the NY Rangers of basketball :kader:

Originally posted by rony31
how come no big stars ever wanna go to the Raptors? :p

stupid Lakers, they're turning into the NY Rangers of basketball :kader:

Cuz the Raptors suck!:D

Vince Carter is SO overrated its amazing. I wish they would trade his ass. He whines about everything and is injured have the year.:rolleyes: :kader:

Malone is set to sign a 1 year/1.5 million contract. The lakers will have 4 future hall of famers in the starting line up. Pretty insane.:confused:

Originally posted by rony31
stupid Lakers, they're turning into the NY Rangers of basketball :kader:

and Real Madrid of soccer???

:brow:

Snyper: true... him and his stupid knee, he had an amazing rookie year, then wen't downhill... just like Eric Hinske :kader:

Heiks: that too :p

O'Neal stays at Indiana

According to a report in the Indianapolis Star, Pacers big man Jermaine O'Neal will re-sign with Indiana on July 16. Here's a quick breakdown of how his decision impacts the Pacers and the rest of the free-agent market:
nba.com

Originally posted by rony31
Snyper: true... him and his stupid knee, he had an amazing rookie year, then wen't downhill... just like Eric Hinske :kader:

Heiks: that too :p

Carter peaked at the wrong f-ing time! That's why his salary is so high. The guy should be making 5 million max, not 15 million! We let the wrong damn cousin go. T-mac should still be a Raptor :kader:

His problem has no relation to Hinske, he started the season playing with broken bones in his catching hand. He had surgery and just came back and is starting to hit some HR's.

Originally posted by ESPN NEWS - check link below
The Mailman delivered his decision.

A league source told ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher that Karl Malone has decided to join the Los Angeles Lakers. The move comes just days after Gary Payton joined the team as well.

Malone showed strong interest in the Lakers from the start of the free-agent negotiations on July 1, to a degree that the Hall of Fame-bound power forward is apparently willing to join the dethroned champions for a mere $1.5 million -- a cut of almost $18 million from his 2002-03 salary.

The $1.5 million figure is the most L.A. could offer Malone next season after committing its $4.9 million mid-level exception to Payton. Malone would have likely been able to get more money if he signed with San Antonio, Sacramento or Dallas.

The Jazz were exploring sign-and-trade possibilities (with the Kings) and the Lakers' three West rivals were hesitant to let Malone join L.A.'s new star trio unopposed.

But it was believed that Malone, who turns 40 on July 24, wasn't considering re-signing with the Jazz for less than the $8 million earned by John Stockton in his final season.

With Malone signing elsewhere, and with Stockton opting for retirement, Utah likely has nearly $20 million in salary-cap space to undertake a dramatic restructuring of its roster.


http://msn.espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0710/1579083.html

What if Pipen also signs for the Lakers? :crazyboy:

Payton
Kobe
Pippen
Malone
O'Neal

:|

Maybe MJ wants to play for them too... :|

Originally posted by ULTRA SOUTH
Mickaël Pietrus and Boris Diaw-Riffiod :rockman:



Mickael Pietrus's highlights were impressive. I cant wait to see him play against the big boys(Kobe, T-Mac), I think he will be a real good player though...

well Pippen is nearing the end of his career and would definitely like to get one more championship ring before he calls it quits.

but with the Lakers exceeding their salary cap, that wont happen this year at least.

Jason Kidd looks set to re-sign with the New Jersey Nets and it also seems that Alonzo Mourning will be joining him. Kidd said that he wants to end his career in New Jersey.

Kidd Story (http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0711/1579469.html)

Mourning Story (http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0711/1579328.html)

Whoa...big signings for Lakers.

Originally posted by ManU2000
Jason Kidd looks set to re-sign with the New Jersey Nets and it also seems that Alonzo Mourning will be joining him. Kidd said that he wants to end his career in New Jersey.

Kidd Story (http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0711/1579469.html)

Mourning Story (http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0711/1579328.html)

they have Mutombo already, why Zo???:confused:

Well its gonna be an interesting time this offseason with the power shifting back to hollywood, and a few teams with a whole lot of cash to spend (Utah, Denver etc)

The latest so far, despite players not being able to actually sign with teams is that:

- Jason Kidd is returning to the new jersey nets despite heavy speculation he was going to join tim duncan at the spurs.
- Kidd will be joined by Alonzo Mourning, at the nets, who will sign a four year deal worth $20mill

- Corey Magette has agreed to sign with the Denver Nuggets for $42 million over six seasons. This should at least make the nuggets a whole lot more competitive with Magette joining forces with Melo.

- And on the coaching front, Mike Dunleavy will be coaching the LA Clippers for a multi-year deal at around $2.5 million a season (not too bad for a coaching job i reckon, although George Karl of the bucks gets $7 mill a season)

The biggest movement out of all that above will be Zo joining Kidd at the Nets. This will make them definite favourites to take out the East again this season. They will have a pretty mean front court of:
C - Mourning
PF - Martin
SF - Jefferson
with Mutombo coming off the bench. You may argue that they still wont be able to compete with the west, but thats a nice lineup by East standards.

LA Lakers

C - Shaq
PF - Malone
SF - Horry
SG - Kobe
PG - Payton

you might as well hand them the trophy at the start of the year

Yo AI, whats up dawg.

Who do you see the Sixers getting? I personally would like to see Michael Olowokandi in a sixers jersey.

thank god AI himself came to tell us the official trades :p

and I forgot about Corey. he's getting good.

another one: PJ Brown is gonna stay in New Orleans and Andre Miller has committed to sign with the Nuggets.
This is a good one for Denver but they'll never be contenders in the west

Thats too much ......... Who are the teams that will be able to beat them ? Kings and Detroit ?

No east teams. Milicic is too young yet and the Nets just can't beat the best west teams.

So I'd say San Antonio, Sacramento, Dallas and maybe Portland.

Man the Lakers have this championship wrapped up like a fvcking twinkie. Their only true opposition will be complacency.

Im looking forward to watching the Nuggets play next year. They have addressed their main problem at point guard [Andre Miller| and are looking promising for the next few years.

The west next year will look something like this.
Lakers
Kings
Spurs
Mavericks
T'Wolves
Blazers
Suns
And either Rockets(muy dificil con nueva trainer), Nuggets, Sonics, Bucks, Thats about it i guess.

note: scratch out nuggets from that list. They wont make the playoffs.

latest news: Juwan Howard signed verbaly to join the Magic and Maggete is set to join the Jazz

I know we were talking about this in the malone and payton thread but I thought I'd make this one so we can keep all signing here :p

anyway, here are todays:


Los Angeles Lakers sign Karl Malone and Gary Payton.

Minnesota agrees to terms with Michael Olowokandi.

New Jersey signs Alonzo Mourning.

New Orleans re-signs P.J. Brown.

Orlando signs Juwan Howard.

Philadelphia re-signs Kenny Thomas and signs Amal McCaskill

Minnesota agrees to terms with Michael Olowokandi.

OH ****!!! That's a ****ing good signing if you ask me.


About the Magic- Juwan Howard? i dont like that one. we'll see though.

well, Juwan scored more that 18 per game last season and more than 8 boards so I guess he wasnt bad at all.

Anyone in the NBA that gets as many shots as he got with the Nuggets is gonna score that much.

I didnt say he was bad at all, I just wanted someone who wouldnt cost so much. Save for next year and get quality. Garnett maybe. I dont know. I just dont rate Juwon all that high. He's highly paid no doubt. Thinking about it, he might be in the right place with McGrady, that way he doesnt have to be THE MAN.

We'll see.

IMO great signing for the Lakers.... anywayz for one of my favorite team the Celtics I wonder who we are gonna buy, we were rumored for a switch between Walker and Sprewell, though I don't know if that will happen, we were also linked with Walker for 2 NY guys, a PG and a SF I think? Not sure... but hopefully

They just signed him to get some boards I think. I guess he'll do good.

anyway, more:

Boston re-signs Mark Blount.

Denver signs Andre Miller to an offer sheet.

Indiana re-signs Jermaine O'Neal

Memphis signs rookie free agent Theron Smith.

Miami signs Elton Brand to an offer sheet.

Phoenix signs Scott Williams and first-round pick Leandro Barbosa.

Toronto signs Jerome Moiso and Milt Palacio.

Utah signs Corey Maggette to an offer sheet.

man, NBA players are just getting paid too damn much :kader:

Jermaine O'Neal: 7-year, $120M contract ($17.1M / season)
Tim Duncan: 7-year, $122M contract ($17.4M / season)

OK, Tim Duncan I can understand since he's a 2-time MVP, but Jermaine O'Neal doesn't deserve that much... sure he's a great player, but come on :rolleyes:

for US people: the Lakers press conference is right now on ESPNews

and Magic gave Malone permission to use his number 32 in his jersey :)

http://www.nba.com/media/lakers/lakers_four.jpg

the thing is that Indiana need him to stay or have nothing so they put all the money in the table. It's understandable I think

Spurs signed Nesterovic ... 2 years 42 million

Yeah we got Olowokandi but we lost Nesterovic, so it's only a very slight upgrade. Anyway with the Lakers getting Malone and Payton and Spurs now signing Nesterovic we don't stand a chance :rolleyes:

It is crazy how much better the West is than the East. I mean, it's gotten to the point where the Wolves, the fifth best team in the West, are better than ANY team in the East. But we still can't get out of the first round because we're in the West. :(

Originally posted by Savo
Spurs signed Nesterovic ... 2 years 42 million

I've never even heard of Nesterovic and he's making $21M a year :| :kader: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by rony31
I've never even heard of Nesterovic and he's making $21M a year :| :kader: :rolleyes:
That has to be some type of mistake... :confused:

Maybe 42 million for 5 years or 24 million for 2 years.

42 million for six xears...

http://espn.go.com/nba/columns/stein_marc/1580887.html

that's more like it... but again, $7M a year for someone I've never heard of :| come on! :kader: :crazyboy:

He was a starter for Minnesota...you don't know him? :kader:

Originally posted by rony31
that's more like it... but again, $7M a year for someone I've never heard of :| come on! :kader: :crazyboy:
He's one of the better centers in the league. Averaged 11 pts per game and was fifth in the leaue in FG%. He was a starter on one of the top 4 (regular season) teams in the NBA. Don't you follow the NBA?

Oh, nevermind, I see you're from Toronto. Of course you don't follow the NBA. ;)

Originally posted by rony31
OK, Tim Duncan I can understand since he's a 2-time MVP, but Jermaine O'Neal doesn't deserve that much... sure he's a great player, but come on :rolleyes:
Garnett is getting $28 million this season. :) (H) :brow:

Originally posted by Run DMB


Oh, nevermind, I see you're from Toronto. Of course you don't follow the NBA. ;)

I hope that post was just directed to Rony ... And not me :D (H)

Nesterovic is worth about that much. Keep in mind the Mid-Level Exemption is 5 million, and Nesterovic is an above average player.

I'm shocked Arenas hasn't gotten a lot of looks.

Antonio Daniels to Seattle and Tyrone Lue to Orlando (:/)

I dont like Lue, he's too small

Pippen goes back to Chicago

The former Chicago Bull, shipped off in a sign-and-trade in 1999 after winning six NBA titles as Michael Jordan's right-hand man, has agreed to a two-year, $10 million contract with his old team, according to ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

What? So no Milicic Bodiroga AND Divac? That's gonna hurt.... :rolleyes: :( I hope the team will be strong enough without them.

We still have way more talent ........... no prob with me .... we can still pull out a gold here (H)

Four-Team Deal Near Completion
A four-team NBA trade has been agreed to, ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher reports. The Knicks would get Keith Van Horn from Philly and ship Latrell Sprewell to the Wolves. Terrell Brandon would go to the Hawks, while Glenn Robinson would land in Philly. The deal may not be finalized until Wednesday.

-Good. I hate Keith Van Horn.

The 4 deal trade is done i think (H) :)

that's a big trade... and I don't follow basketball too closely, just watch a few Raptor games and follow standings and stuff :crazyboy:

Poor keith :p :confused: :( ............ Hes not a bad player .. but he always seems to be traded ... the big dog and latrell ... they should be going to better teams i beileve

I dont like Brandon coming here to Atlanta though we didnt do anything with Shariff and Glenn together :S

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Four-Team Deal Near Completion
A four-team NBA trade has been agreed to, ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher reports. The Knicks would get Keith Van Horn from Philly and ship Latrell Sprewell to the Wolves. Terrell Brandon would go to the Hawks, while Glenn Robinson would land in Philly. The deal may not be finalized until Wednesday.
That would be HUGE for the Wolves if it happened. Think of what our starting line-up would be like:

PG: Cassell
SG: Sprewell
SF: Szczerbiak
PF: Garnett
C: Olowokandi

And Troy Hudson coming off the bench! :o

Originally posted by Run DMB
That would be HUGE for the Wolves if it happened. Think of what our starting line-up would be like:

PG: Cassell
SG: Sprewell
SF: Szczerbiak
PF: Garnett
C: Olowokandi

And Troy Hudson coming off the bench! :o

Wow. Thats amazing.

Snow
Iverson
Kenny Thomas
Glenn Robinson
DC

You would kill us.

Yep .. that would be a good Wolves side .... Finally Garnett will get some help .. apart from Szerviack and ex-team mate Nesterovic

Keith Van Horn will end up in Utah sooner or later along with Szczerbiak. They love their white boy ballers down there.:D

T. Brandon is never gonna pan out wherever he goes. He will always be injured and will never be able to get over that.... paging Grant Hill

Yes the Magic should try to get rid of him. Too much Salary for him not playing is being used up. They could easily pick up a couple good players with that money he is wasting.

Dont underestimate that Illadelphia side. They have someone who can average 15 points next year in Robinson, and Thomas is gonna do well alson. What they should try to do is to get Dikembe back from the Nets. That would make them, in my mind, true contenders out the east.

All this is probably wrong, but thats how i see things

New Trade: Hidayet Turkoglu and Ron Mercer to Spurs
Brad Miller to Sacramento
Pollard to Pacers.

something like that. i just caught it on sportscenter


edited to say that the trade has not yet gone through, but is on the table. Spurs would be giving up draft choices.

Nooooooooooo .. Pollard and hedo are gone :( .............. Brad Miller ?! :f***:

I actually think that the Kings endep up winning that trade.

they're getting a center, although they already have one in Vlade, and they let go those 2 that would never really make it as starters there.

brad miller could even get to start if Divac dont start playing really good.

Elden Campbell to the Pistons. that would move ben wallace to Power forward. So where is Darko gonna fit in at?

Scedule .......



September 5
Game 1: 18.00 Slovenia - Italy (Group A)
Game 2: 18.00 Lithuania - Latvia (Group B)
Game 3: 18.00 Serbia & Montenegro - Russia (Group C)
Game 4: 21.00 Greece - Croatia (Group D)
Game 5: 21.00 France - Bosnia & Herzegovina (Group A)
Game 6: 15.15 Germany - Israel (Group B)
Game 7: 21.00 Spain - Sweden (Group C)
Game 8: 18.00 Ukraine - Turkey (Group D)

September 6
Game 9: 16.00 Bosnia & Herzegovina - Slovenia (Group A)
Game 10: 17.00 Israel - Lithuania (Group B)
Game 11: 21.00 Sweden - Serbia & Montenegro (Group C)
Game 12: 21.00 Turkey - Greece (Group D)
Game 13: 18.30 Italy - France (Group A)
Game 14: 14.00 Latvia - Germany (Group B)
Game 15: 18.00 Russia - Spain (Group C)
Game 16: 18.00 Croatia - Ukraine (Group D)

September 7
Game 17: 15.15 Slovenia - France (Group A)
Game 18: 15.15 Lithuania - Germany (Group B)
Game 19: 15.45 Serbia & Montenegro - Spain (Group C)
Game 20: 15.45 Greece - Ukraine (Group D)
Game 21: 18.15 Bosnia & Herzegovina - Italy (Group A)
Game 22: 18.15 Israel - Latvia (Group B)
Game 23: 18.15 Sweden - Russia (Group C)
Game 24: 18.15 Turkey - Croatia (Group D)

Originally posted by LilPlayaJosh
Elden Campbell to the Pistons. that would move ben wallace to Power forward. So where is Darko gonna fit in at?
On the bench. Where he should be.

Originally posted by PScott
On the bench. Where he should be.

2 Overall pick, Biggest Talent in Europe, To sit on the bench ? hehe .. that better be a joke .. becuz u look really dumb :D

Overall best in Europe doesnt say anything. He's still a Rookie! He got drafted by a 50 + win team last year. I highly doubt that Darko will be their star player....The Pistons will have to adapt Darko to the NBA environment, he is far from having an NBA body, you put him on the court as a starter for Center or Power Forward against NBA veterans and we'll see who looks "really dumb".

Darko played great against men.
Camelo played great against boys.
Lebron played great against kids.

I think that says enough about who will play the best when the season comes around.

Originally posted by IranianAmir
Overall best in Europe doesnt say anything. He's still a Rookie! He got drafted by a 50 + win team last year. I highly doubt that Darko will be their star player....The Pistons will have to adapt Darko to the NBA environment, he is far from having an NBA body, you put him on the court as a starter for Center or Power Forward against NBA veterans and we'll see who looks "really dumb".
Fo Shizzle:mrpimp:

If they thought he was gonna be a star contributing day in day out, they would not have picked up Elden Campbell.

(i)Originally posted by adizlaja [/i]
(B)Darko played great against men.
Camelo played great against boys.
Lebron played great against kids.

I think that says enough about who will play the best when the season comes around.[/B]
Can you do me a favor? How many minutes per game did Darko average the last season before he was drafted. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.:D

Originally posted by IranianAmir
Overall best in Europe doesnt say anything. He's still a Rookie! He got drafted by a 50 + win team last year. I highly doubt that Darko will be their star player....The Pistons will have to adapt Darko to the NBA environment, he is far from having an NBA body, you put him on the court as a starter for Center or Power Forward against NBA veterans and we'll see who looks "really dumb".

You obviously havent seen Darko play ?! So i dunt consider youre comment Correct ... Darko has been playing 2-3 pro seasons against top flight basketball teams in Serbia and Montenegro such as Partizan Mobtel and FMP Zeleznik and Buducnost, Which all are in the Euroleage.

Originally posted by adizlaja
Darko played great against men.
Camelo played great against boys.
Lebron played great against kids.

I think that says enough about who will play the best when the season comes around.


Theres one great example (Y) :) :rockman:

Originally posted by Savo
You obviously havent seen Darko play ?! So i dunt consider youre comment Correct ... Darko has been playing 2-3 pro seasons against top flight basketball teams in Serbia and Montenegro such as Partizan Mobtel and FMP Zeleznik and Buducnost, Which all are in the Euroleage.

dude...........you honestly think Euroleague has the same talent as the NBA? And about his body, I know that he cannot over power a Kenyon Martin in playing Power forward or Shaq if the Pistons are foolish enough to put him as a Center? Cause he will get EMBARASSED.

As i said ......................... You havent seen Darko play .. so why do you bother trash talking me with youre crap ? We will just have to wait and see ... who will get EMBARASSED :|

well, I have seen him play, so stop assuming...plus hes from Yugoslavia, hes not God. I swear you make every sports athelete from Yugoslavia out like they are the best thing in the world. You sure got defensive when you said trash talking and I dont know crap or something stupid like that. Don't go making fun of me because I am an NBA fan and I'm voicing out my opinion....Word of advise, next time calm down before replying because this just makes you look immature.

Originally posted by IranianAmir
well, I have seen him play, so stop assuming...plus hes from Yugoslavia, hes not God. I swear you make every sports athelete from Yugoslavia out like they are the best thing in the world. You sure got defensive when you said trash talking and I dont know crap or something stupid like that. Don't go making fun of me because I am an NBA fan and I'm voicing out my opinion....Word of advise, next time calm down before replying because this just makes you look immature.

You have seen him play ? A 2 minute clip of him play ? I have seen games and games of him play .... So stfu ! Hes a god now ? I never said that :rolleyes: .... PS Yugoslavia is reiging world champs ... and Yes we do have some of the best basketball players in the world ? So what ? got a problem ? And if he was picked 2 overall in the draft, and hes from Serbia ... then i bet he would be a good danm player now .. wouldnt he :|

Originally posted by Savo
You have seen him play ? A 2 minute clip of him play ? I have seen games and games of him play .... So stfu ! Hes a god now ? I never said that :rolleyes: .... PS Yugoslavia is reiging world champs ... and Yes we do have some of the best basketball players in the world ? So what ? got a problem ? And if he was picked 2 overall in the draft, and hes from Serbia ... then i bet he would be a good danm player now .. wouldnt he :|

heh, I like how you completely misunderstand what i tell you everytime! Tell me to stfu....grow up. I was not calling him a god, I was making fun of you for being so biased towards Serbians. Who cares if Yugoslavia won an Olympic Tournament :rolleyes:, look how many times America won. So I do "have a problem". Want me to bring up all the great High Draft picks of the past? Cause i can say a few. Pervis Ellison was selected 1st overall by Sacramento a while back, HE SUCKED! Joe Smith was selected by Golden State 1st overall, he was very disappointing. Want me to continue? I know you'll probably not even understand why Im tell you these examples so I'll tell you now, it means, being selected 2nd in the NBA draft means nothing, he has to prove himself first and not overseas, but in the NBA where the best basketball players in the World play. So please stop trying to pick an "internet fight" with me......

Internet Fight ?! Youre the one picking this fight fool .... Now just stop .. Yugoslavia has been world champ 10 times .. More then any other country :) ... So .. zip it (H)

It's like this.
Carmelo Anthony - Denver Nuggets - Losing Team
LeBron James - Cleveland Cavaliers - Losing Team
Darko - Detroit Pistons - Winning Team

Can you spot the difference in situations that each player has been drafted into.

Its not Darko's fault that Memphis foolishly traded away a number 2 draft pick. But thats the breaks. Now he is with a 50 win team who advanced deep into the playoffs, meaning they already have a strong squad. They lost no one of importance in the off-season. In fact they got stronger with the addition of veteran Elden Campbell. So to say that Darko is gonna start on the bench is not a slight to his talent, but rather a testament to how strong his team already is.

And if im not mistaken, wasnt darko coming off the bench in Serbia also? I seem to recall an analyst mention that he only averaged like 15 minutes per game.

Originally posted by PScott
It's like this.
Carmelo Anthony - Denver Nuggets - Losing Team
LeBron James - Cleveland Cavaliers - Losing Team
Darko - Detroit Pistons - Winning Team

Can you spot the difference in situations that each player has been drafted into.

Its not Darko's fault that Memphis foolishly traded away a number 2 draft pick. But thats the breaks. Now he is with a 50 win team who advanced deep into the playoffs, meaning they already have a strong squad. They lost no one of importance in the off-season. In fact they got stronger with the addition of veteran Elden Campbell. So to say that Darko is gonna start on the bench is not a slight to his talent, but rather a testament to how strong his team already is.

And if im not mistaken, wasnt darko coming off the bench in Serbia also? I seem to recall an analyst mention that he only averaged like 15 minutes per game.

Well said man, thats what i originally was trying to say, but this Savo idiot keeps on insulting me calling me a fool, to stfu, saying I know crap....Grow up Savo........

Originally posted by IranianAmir
Well said man, thats what i originally was trying to say, but this Savo idiot keeps on insulting me calling me a fool, to stfu, saying I know crap....Grow up Savo........

Dont bother arguing with him. Hes got a Yugoslavian flag up his ass 24 hours a day.

How is Darko gonna start with Mutombo, Kenyon Martin, and the now the recently signed Elden Cambell on the same team?

Originally posted by IranianAmir
Well said man, thats what i originally was trying to say, but this Savo idiot keeps on insulting me calling me a fool, to stfu, saying I know crap....Grow up Savo........

What you were trying to say my ass ! Youre the one that needs to STFU :| why dun u grow up ? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Dont bother arguing with him. Hes got a Yugoslavian flag up his ass 24 hours a day.

How is Darko gonna start with Mutombo, Kenyon Martin, and the now the recently signed Elden Cambell on the same team?

Mutombo ? Martin and Cambell ? Are you Dumb or Stupid ? Darko plays for the pistons fool ...... not the Nets :|

PS flyer ... Whats Yugoslavia ? :confused: (H)

I gotta stop coming here when im drunk. ****.

Originally posted by Savo
What you were trying to say my ass ! Youre the one that needs to STFU :| why dun u grow up ? :rolleyes:

With replys like that I dont even need to prove my point anymore. It just proves how immature and ignorant you really are. I know your just gonna reply back with some stupid remark trying to make fun of me followed by the usual ":|"....everytime you make yourself look more like an ass, i just laugh, so go ahead, feel free to reply. and also, why should I grow up, i believe Im not the one screaming at everyone who doesnt think Serbians are the most amazing things in the world.
:rolleyes:

I meant Ben Wallace and the recently signed Elden Cambell.

Heh, FLYER must be smokin' some of the same **** recain smokes. :crazyboy: ;)

BTW, Wolves have also signed Fred Hoiberg and Mark Madsen.













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MADDOG MADSEN!!! (H) :rockman: :o :clapwap: :bob:

:hump: :mrpimp:

haha....ummmm....go sixers!

News:

Mavs deal Van Exel to Warriors for Jamison:

The Mavericks have traded for Antawn Jamison of the Golden State Warriors as part of an eight-player trade, even though it cost them playoff hero Nick Van Exel, NBA sources say. The deal is pending league approval Monday. The Mavericks will also receive 6-8 power forward Danny Fortson. Going to Golden State are Van Exel, Avery Johnson, Evan Eschmeyer and Popeye Jones.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/basketball/

Not a bad deal for us. Nick will really be missed tho.. one of my fav players in the league. Good luck man!:rockman:

this is totally great trading by Dallas.

Jamison and Forston themself are worth more than Van Exel and the others.

Yeah, a great deal for the Mavs.

LaFrentz
Dirk
Jamison
Finley
Nash

:rockman:

Yeah... that's great...

...for the Mavs. :rolleyes: :( :mad:

Hey, your team won't be that bad either. I can see a chance that the T-Wolves will reach the second round.

Olowokandi
KG
Wally
Sprewell
Cassell/Hudson

Yea check this out:

http://espn.go.com/media/sportscenter/2003/0724/photo/wolveslineup_i.jpg

Add Hudson off the bench... not bad at all. :o

T-Wolves signed Kirk Penney. (Y)

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/penney_signs_030822.html

who's penney? :p

anyway, here are more from the past week (most important ones in bold):

Fri., Aug. 22 Dallas signs Travis Best.
Minnesota signs rookie free agent Kirk Penney.

Sacramento signs Tony Massenburg.


Thu., Aug. 21 Detroit trades Clifford Robinson and Pepe Sanchez to Golden State for Bob Sura.
Indiana signs second-round pick James Jones.

New Jersey re-signs Brian Scalabrine.

Washington signs second-round pick Steve Blake.


Wed., Aug. 20 Chicago signs Kendall Gill.
Indiana re-signs Reggie Miller.

Los Angeles Clippers sign rookie free agent Quinton Ross.

Washington signs first-round pick Jarvis Hayes.


Tue., Aug. 19 Denver signs Jon Barry.
Los Angeles Lakers sign rookie free agent Stephane Pelle.

Miami signs first-round pick Dwyane Wade.

New Jersey re-sign Lucious Harris.


Mon., Aug. 18 Dallas acquires Danny Fortson, Antawn Jamison, Chris Mills and Jiri Welsch from Golden State for Evan Eschmeyer, Nick Van Exel, Avery Johnson, Popeye Jones and Antoine Rigaudeau.
Denver signs Earl Boykins.


Fri., Aug. 15 Los Angeles Lakers sign Eric Chenowith of the Roanoke Dazzle (NBDL).
Sacramento signs Anthony Peeler.

Its nice to see a New Zealander in the NBA

Kirk Penney signed by Minnasota :mrpimp:

any word on where eduardo najera is going? last i checked i think they said he was a free aganet........i might be wrong thogh

Originally posted by Savo
Group 1: Germany, Lithuania, Letonija, Isreal


Grupa 2: Greece, Turkey, Croatia, Ukraine


Grupa 3: Srbija i Crna Gora, Spain, Russia, Sweden


Grupa 4: France, Italija, Slovenija, Bosna i Hercegovina
The European Championships are gonna start tomorrow. I'm getting excited :rockman:

Originally posted by skiptomylou
any word on where eduardo najera is going? last i checked i think they said he was a free aganet........i might be wrong thogh

i heard he was already signed by the Mavs.

najara wasnt a free agent...

anyway, larry bird just said that he is willing to trade jermain if he demands a trade cuz of the coach thing... which opens a few options for other teams, but his contract sucks.

Look out for dirk tomorrow! :rockman:

Hey Guys havent been around for a while but some great trades in the nba so far in my opinion ...
Minesotta getting Spree is great ... what were the knicks thinking ? Van Horn ... obviously he's not going to get in to as much trouble as spree but he isn't what they need ... they need a replcement for Kurt thomas ...

Golden State : what were you thinking trading Jamison (and others) to dallas for Van Exel .... They traded their best player to dallas for the mav's sixth man ... Van exel did avg alot of points off the bench last year and golden state did need a point guard after losing Arenas to the wizards but i think overall a bad trade....

Karl Malone .. in probably his second or third last season goes to the Lakers (probably looking for a ring) plus they got Payton who is going to be great for the lakers

Scottie returns home to chicago for the final two years of his career ...bulls are still going to suck :(

And finally the best thing ever for the Cavs getting Lebron ... i already got the jersey ... The red one with the gold trim .. it was only 40 at Modells ...

Can anyone tell me why the 5th Avenue Nba store was charging 400$ for the same jersey i got in Queens for 40$ ??? ?

Ah bring on the preseason !!!!

Great news!!!!! (at least for me)

Point guard Rafer Alston (skip to my lou) has just signed a one year deal with the miami heat.......that means he will get good playing time cause the heat lacked a point guard last year

WTF ... He left Toronto ? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO .. stupid bi*ches didnt sign him :| :f***: :(

Originally posted by vince15
The European Championships are gonna start tomorrow. I'm getting excited :rockman:

baaaa... I'm not...
we have the worst group of players in the History!
no Oded Katash, no Doron Shefer, no Nadav Henefeld Etc.
Israel is looking like sh*t.
I'm very dissapointed.

even against Germany, we should've played better,
but it seems like they fear Derk Novitsky
tho' the Germans had a very bad game,
we couldn't play well...:kader:

anyway, hope we'll win today against Latvia,
our last chance of advancing.

... we won by about 20 points difference...:mrpimp:

We got totally owned. :rolleyes:

Serbia is playing Lithuania next (H)

Well... Israel is at the 1/4 final against Spain
after winning at the 1/8 against Slovenia...:)

jeez lithuania is 3/0 :eek: Pedja better start rainin them 3 pointers :D

France/Russia tomorrow (H) Jerôme Moïso and Tony Parker are very amazing :mrpimp: