View Full Version : A new standart for High Quality Adboards (quaddro size)
BolzerMike 21-02-2003, 07:28:PM 256 x 21 Pixel was just too small to create really nice adboards, so I created a quadruple sized fsh file which now provides 512 x 42 Pixels for each single adboard.
A first set of these boards will be part of the upcoming TVPopUp-Patch...
Heiks 21-02-2003, 07:32:PM Originally posted by BolzerMike
256 x 21 Pixel was just too small to create really nice adboards, so I created a quadruple sized fsh file which now provides 512 x 42 Pixels for each single adboard.
A first set of these boards will be part of the upcoming TVPopUp-Patch...
that's great, good job mike!
how do they look ingame?
;)
great. I was made this. But I couldn't see any difference in the game . So I cancelled the project. Did you seen any difference in the game?
BolzerMike 21-02-2003, 07:38:PM with my actual graphiccard everything looks poor, because my Radeon is somewhere between here and Taiwan and I had to reactivate my old ATIExpert2000 :(
I will send you an UCL-Package and you can post some screenshots if you want too. Im interested to see how they look with a better card too ;)
Heiks 21-02-2003, 08:12:PM it's nice that you sent them to me but my graphics card bites so i will not post my screens...
[i will send them to silencer]
but i can really see the difference - the adds are so clear with the new res
great job bolzer!
:)
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:07:PM Thanx Heiks I've received them and I most salute to you BOLZER what a fantastic idea and the quality is amazing, I've made ss in two different stadium, one dark stadium (Old Trafford) and one light (Santiago Bernabeu) Check them out! :)
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:09:PM 2nd at OT
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:11:PM A nice shot from upclose where you can clearly see the quality :D
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:13:PM A clear shot, like I said it's dark in the stadium but still it looks good!
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:15:PM Man look at this, superb!!
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:17:PM Another team in another stadium SANTIAGO BERNABEU
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:20:PM Behind the goals, I agree with Heiks, the quality of these boards is really something else, are you planning to do more Mike?
Vazza 21-02-2003, 09:20:PM Gr8 adboards, where can we get them.
BTW Bolzer, I have downloaded your FifaTV thing and can't access the readme with it - it asks for a password:confused:.
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:22:PM number 8
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:23:PM In game
TODO-FIFA 21-02-2003, 09:25:PM Originally posted by Silencer
A clear shot, like I said it's dark in the stadium but still it looks good!
That remembers me something... Is that my Real Madrid Yellow Goalkeeper ? ;)
About the adboards... High quality = Brillant Adboards :)
Silencer 21-02-2003, 09:26:PM Well Vazza I've got them :p
Last one, it's pretty clear how they look right ;)
Check out the ads on the 2nd ring of the stadium :D
And yeah Ova you are right, that's your yellow gk-kit :)
BolzerMike 21-02-2003, 10:25:PM damn I miss my graphiccard :(
the screenshots are really great, high quality indeed, thx for that silencer :)
as you see the Ford -adboard for example is just resized from a small to a bigger size, which is of course the wrong way to achieve better quality, but I just havent had time to investigate better pictures, but its obvious that there is still something to improve.
The "Mastercard" and "Eurocard" adboards are made with high resolution graphics and the letters are edited with Paintshop so the quality is 100%.
Best of all the pictures can easily be imported with EAGraph, at this time I have to make a little HexEditing to make them work with Fifa, but I hope to fix this soon, so everybody can make new adboards with these templates than.
@Vazza, the password is: welke
Vazza 21-02-2003, 10:31:PM Thanks, Bolzer:) .
Jorel 21-02-2003, 11:45:PM Those are great! I can't wait to dl them :) In fact, I made this account so I could ask a question. If you can make the adboards so clear and higher quality could you do the same with kits? Like really high quality so you could read what the badges say in game. Or maybe I'm just wishing now. Oh well.
C-Ya!
EDIT: Even high quality fonts, like in the EPL font you the logo at the bottom of the numbers could be really clear. Woooooooooooooooooowwwwww.
WOW!
It looks great. I am re-making 2GA(Second Generation Adboards) for Fifa 2003. Really great. :rockman:
BolzerMike 22-02-2003, 11:33:AM Originally posted by Jorel
Those are great! I can't wait to dl them :) In fact, I made this account so I could ask a question. If you can make the adboards so clear and higher quality could you do the same with kits? Like really high quality so you could read what the badges say in game. Or maybe I'm just wishing now. Oh well.
C-Ya!
EDIT: Even high quality fonts, like in the EPL font you the logo at the bottom of the numbers could be really clear. Woooooooooooooooooowwwwww.
I have no idea, because I just didnt tried too. I never cared much about kits because I always played TOWER or PANORAMIC Camera ;)
Ariel knows more about kits and he did this with Fifa2001 and Fifa2002, so I guess if its possible he would do it even with Fifa2003, wouldnt he ?
About QuaddroAdboards:
Does anybody has a complete or most complete list of which adboard number is used in which stadium or tournement ?
Fifolo 22-02-2003, 01:00:PM The List for the Stadiums
You must only change the last Number to the Number of the Stadium you´want edit
MiscStadiumTexObj.texobj1019271230__texture6362304 6875__1.fsh
1 - Old Trafford
2 - Bernabeu
3 - Bayern M
4 - Lyon
5 - San Siro
6 - Nou Camp
7 - Highburry
8 - Del Alpi
9 - Dortmund
10- Valencia
11- Roma/Olympico
12- Bay Arena
13- Anfield
14- PSG
15- Ajax/Arena
16- vd Stock
17- Galatasaray
24- Olympic Style
25- Closed Square
26- Open Style
27- Oval Style
Another Question: You know in the new Stadiums of Germany for example Rostock there have very big Adboards, do you thing it´s possibel to change the Adboards in the Game like this?
I like your idea, but i remember last year when neovico did it with the Super Face textures for 2002 where he made really large textures and supposedly there was supposed to be better quality, but i really didn't notice any difference it just looked like as if the texture was resampled. Do you think this will happen with the adboards?:) :confused:
Budge 22-02-2003, 01:14:PM bolzer, will there be a way where a program will be released so we will be able to make our own adboards in quatro size? coz the quality is phenomenal!
maggot 22-02-2003, 01:42:PM great news!
here are some Ajax adboards that i made :P
maggot 22-02-2003, 01:47:PM and these.. :)
BolzerMike 22-02-2003, 01:57:PM Originally posted by Fifolo
The List for the Stadiums
You must only change the last Number to the Number of the Stadium you´want edit
MiscStadiumTexObj.texobj1019271230__texture6362304 6875__1.fsh
1 - Old Trafford
2 - Bernabeu
3 - Bayern M
4 - Lyon
5 - San Siro
6 - Nou Camp
7 - Highburry
8 - Del Alpi
9 - Dortmund
10- Valencia
11- Roma/Olympico
12- Bay Arena
13- Anfield
14- PSG
15- Ajax/Arena
16- vd Stock
17- Galatasaray
24- Olympic Style
25- Closed Square
26- Open Style
27- Oval Style
Another Question: You know in the new Stadiums of Germany for example Rostock there have very big Adboards, do you thing it´s possibel to change the Adboards in the Game like this?
THX for the list FCH, did you test it ? I found some lists but it seems that there were errors inside, I guess some adboards are assigned to special tournements like CC for example.
about adboardsize: It can only be changed by the size of the vertexes, so it must be done with Oedit, but I havent tried Oedit yet... In Fifa2002 there were individual adboard**.rav-files which stored the position and size of the adboard-vertexes so it was easy to make them new from scratch for each stadium.
@ i_am_budge:
I guess a special prgramm isnt needed, when Im going to release the templates you will be able to import them very easily just with EAGraph or SonicFSH (at this time there is still a little HEX-Job to do)
A tool like an adboard-Raptor isnt needed, because the files just have to be inside the data-folder to be used by the game.
@andy: look at silencers screens and compare to the original adboards.
@maggot: superb quality !!! :)
Budge 22-02-2003, 02:00:PM thanx bolzer!
GreeningforEng! 22-02-2003, 02:04:PM Originally posted by Fifolo
The List for the Stadiums
You must only change the last Number to the Number of the Stadium you´want edit
MiscStadiumTexObj.texobj1019271230__texture6362304 6875__1.fsh
1 - Old Trafford
2 - Bernabeu
3 - Bayern M
4 - Lyon
5 - San Siro
6 - Nou Camp
7 - Highburry
8 - Del Alpi
9 - Dortmund
10- Valencia
11- Roma/Olympico
12- Bay Arena
13- Anfield
14- PSG
15- Ajax/Arena
16- vd Stock
17- Galatasaray
24- Olympic Style
25- Closed Square
26- Open Style
27- Oval Style
Another Question: You know in the new Stadiums of Germany for example Rostock there have very big Adboards, do you thing it´s possibel to change the Adboards in the Game like this?
That list can't be right, because I know that the Santiago Bernabeu and the Mestalla share adboards, as well as Highbury and Old Trafford...some numbers correspond to different leagues, rather than stadiums or teams...
Fifolo 22-02-2003, 02:07:PM Sorry, i don´t test this but there is from the Access Tutorial made by Hakeem, so i thing that was correct ;)
about adboardsize, i can made this for you with O-Edit, i work with O-Edit on a new Stadium, so send me a Mail which file must be edit and i give it a try
Budge 22-02-2003, 02:10:PM Originally posted by Fifolo
The List for the Stadiums
You must only change the last Number to the Number of the Stadium you´want edit
MiscStadiumTexObj.texobj1019271230__texture6362304 6875__1.fsh
1 - Old Trafford
2 - Bernabeu
3 - Bayern M
4 - Lyon
5 - San Siro
6 - Nou Camp
7 - Highburry
8 - Del Alpi
9 - Dortmund
10- Valencia
11- Roma/Olympico
12- Bay Arena
13- Anfield
14- PSG
15- Ajax/Arena
16- vd Stock
17- Galatasaray
24- Olympic Style
25- Closed Square
26- Open Style
27- Oval Style
Another Question: You know in the new Stadiums of Germany for example Rostock there have very big Adboards, do you thing it´s possibel to change the Adboards in the Game like this?
i think anfield is 22 if anyone needed it...
Fifolo 22-02-2003, 02:13:PM Originally posted by GreeningforEng!
That list can't be right, because I know that the Santiago Bernabeu and the Mestalla share adboards, as well as Highbury and Old Trafford...some numbers correspond to different leagues, rather than stadiums or teams...
Sorry i saw u post to late, ithe list is only for the stadiumnumbers, but Bolzer need a list for the stadiums who share the addboards, i thing the only way to find out that is test all stadium :(
but what about the rotated Adboards, was there working too?
GreeningforEng! 22-02-2003, 02:20:PM I think Marcus has an accurate adboard list if you can catch him around here...
Budge 22-02-2003, 02:37:PM hey greening i like the theory u have there...and marcus does have a good one, ive seen it before but i cant remember where it is...
Silencer 22-02-2003, 03:30:PM There ya go :)
Here is the list, the teams and corresponding stadiums and the stadiums that are sharing adboards. (thanx to Marcus ;)
AS Roma 8
Ajax 13
Arsenal 2
Bayer Leverkusen 1
Bayern Munich 1
Borussia Dortmund 1
FC Barcelona 4
Galatasaray 13
Inter Milan 8
Juventus 9
Liverpool 22
Manchester United 2
Olympique Lyonnais 6
Paris Saint-Germain 6
RC Lens 6
RSC Anderlecht 10
Real Madrid 5
Valencia CF 5
Cheers!
MAGGOT: Can you send me your Ajax adboards mate, they look fantastic, really want to see how they look in the game :D
GreeningforEng! 22-02-2003, 03:37:PM Originally posted by i_am_budge
hey greening i like the theory u have there...and marcus does have a good one, ive seen it before but i cant remember where it is...
Cheers Budge :D ...it's very true in the case of George 'Dubya' Bush...
maggot 22-02-2003, 03:45:PM Originally posted by Silencer
There ya go :)
Here is the list, the teams and corresponding stadiums and the stadiums that are sharing adboards. (thanx to Marcus ;)
AS Roma 8
Ajax 13
Arsenal 2
Bayer Leverkusen 1
Bayern Munich 1
Borussia Dortmund 1
FC Barcelona 4
Galatasaray 13
Inter Milan 8
Juventus 9
Liverpool 22
Manchester United 2
Olympique Lyonnais 6
Paris Saint-Germain 6
RC Lens 6
RSC Anderlecht 10
Real Madrid 5
Valencia CF 5
Cheers!
MAGGOT: Can you send me your Ajax adboards mate, they look fantastic, really want to see how they look in the game :D
hey silencer heb je ook msn? want ik heb geen zin om engels te praten :P.. ik heb namelijk vakantie.. en engels doet me teveel aan school denken :)
ErMasLoko 22-02-2003, 03:58:PM can somebody send me the FSH or high quality adboards?
My email is: pedromgr@telefonica.net
Thanks
BolzerMike 22-02-2003, 04:20:PM The templates will be released this evening, lately tomorrow at www.fifafx.de ;)
Haukur Gudnason 22-02-2003, 04:21:PM this is fantastic;)
Silencer 22-02-2003, 05:16:PM Originally posted by maggot
hey silencer heb je ook msn? want ik heb geen zin om engels te praten :P.. ik heb namelijk vakantie.. en engels doet me teveel aan school denken :)
Look under my sig, you can find the ICQ-number there (English forum ;)
Cheers!
syaz_wan03 22-02-2003, 05:44:PM idea!!!!!!!!!
SEND IT TO ARIEL FOR FIFA WORLD LEAGUE PATCH!!!!!
:D
:p :p :rockman: :rockman:
Speedy_SgZ 22-02-2003, 05:50:PM If you want a adboardlist: http://users.pandora.be/janvanhaaren/soccergamez/dbi/adboard.htm
Sorry, but it's in Dutch :(
BolzerMike 23-02-2003, 06:49:PM The new adboards -TEMPLATE with a small introduction is available now at
www.fifafx.de
thx for the list Speedy_SgZ :) I guess the language doesnt matter ;)
unknown1 24-02-2003, 10:48:AM silencer could u tell Saurabh abt this news and maybe ask him to update his CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP ADBOARDS PATCH with the new templates???
Silencer 24-02-2003, 06:53:PM Sure I'll tell him as soon as I speak to him on ICQ.
Cheers!
saurabh 01-03-2003, 09:10:PM Ok its my first time i watched them and these looks terrific and as UNKNOWN1 said i thought this too to have an CC Adboards Patch with this technoogy.But i have still some doubts about it.
But i am absolutely ready for making an patch with these adboards and this new version will contain new and more perfect adboards for EVERY team.
Paco 4 01-03-2003, 09:20:PM Great Sarubah! your adboards are great. And in this qualitty they'll look perfect!
A request, could u make the Real Madrid one's like electronic adboards? because they have electronic adboards.
saurabh 01-03-2003, 09:23:PM Thx m8.
I can assure that 2nd version i am doing will be P E R F E C T.
But i cant give that effect couse FSH files doesnt support any type of animation.
I have started working and this patch will be up with my site opening.
Silencer 01-03-2003, 09:31:PM Great pal, I'm sure you will do a splendid job again :p
Cheers!
saurabh 01-03-2003, 09:34:PM Cheers for that m8 but i still have some doubts for this template.
Means how to make fsh compatible to this size,can we import adboards in these new FSH's with Adboard Raptor etc etc.
Is there anybody with answers and more info on this template.
Silencer 01-03-2003, 09:45:PM Well I've tested the templates for Bolzer when he asked me to make ss of his new adboards but you can't import them with adboardraptor I'm afraid.
He's sent me the FSH-files!
Cheers!
saurabh 01-03-2003, 09:48:PM I was thinking the same m8.
But if we have to use FSH then many teams will share adboards like arsenal and ManU which i would certainly not like.
Anyway we can import adboards through EA Grafix Editor but that will be complicated for many people so i cant do that.
Thats really a prob with it....
unknown1 02-03-2003, 02:33:AM well its a price to pay to have perfect adboards;)
BTW silencer u got a nice sig and avatar there(H)
Hakeem 02-03-2003, 02:54:AM Originally posted by saurabh
I was thinking the same m8.
But if we have to use FSH then many teams will share adboards like arsenal and ManU which i would certainly not like.
Anyway we can import adboards through EA Grafix Editor but that will be complicated for many people so i cant do that.
Thats really a prob with it....
we used to do that all the time in 2002 and wc2002 so its not that big problem.
saurabh 02-03-2003, 08:48:AM I know we used to do but i was just thinking it can be complicated for many people.
Anyways if it isnt complicated i'll make patch FSH Compatible.
saurabh 02-03-2003, 08:52:AM Also is there a way that we could change adboards numbers of teams??I think you hakeem or marcus would be knowing it.
Hakeem 02-03-2003, 10:19:AM it cant be done easily. Ariel did it by Hexeding the DBIs but it cannot be done in access. There is a filed for the adboard ID but its like many other fields that do not affect the game.
so Unless FCDB can do it then there's now way.
Maybe someone can contact the FCDB creators so they can put this in the program:)
saurabh 02-03-2003, 01:30:PM Thats not a good sign.But i remeber once when marcus said that he can change the numbers.Maybe i'll talk to him.
PeeJay2K2 02-03-2003, 01:53:PM hey saurabh,
when Bones was talking about real madrid's electronic adboards, i don't think that he meant any sort of animation. i think he wanted the adboards to look kinda pixelated, like they're made up of lots of tiny dots.
Marcus 02-03-2003, 01:56:PM Originally posted by Hakeem
it cant be done easily. Ariel did it by Hexeding the DBIs but it cannot be done in access. There is a filed for the adboard ID but its like many other fields that do not affect the game.
so Unless FCDB can do it then there's now way.
Maybe someone can contact the FCDB creators so they can put this in the program:)
Can't it be done in access? because when I told Saurabh the Adboard ID numbers for the team i took it from access.
saurabh 02-03-2003, 01:58:PM If he meant that than i CAN do it.
I understood what u told on MSN.
I can make adboards which looks like they have dots on it.
But major probs with Bolzer's templateisnt solved yet:(
saurabh 02-03-2003, 02:00:PM Why dont u try atleast once Marcus..
Hrvoje Bajlo 02-03-2003, 02:01:PM message to guy who made this templates and news sizes:
if you need, i can make a tool in Visual Basic that can easily import and Adboard(your dimensions) to the game!
saurabh 02-03-2003, 02:03:PM Really??Can you do it?
If yes pls give me your MSN.
Marcus 02-03-2003, 02:05:PM For the people who don't have the CC, you could have a .zip file in the CC_adboards.zip file. Eg, in the CC_adboards.zip, the would be another .zip file for Man U's adboards in the .fsh format, and a .zip for Arsenal's adboards, so the user can just choose which ones he wants and extract them to the data folder. Am i making sense:crazyboy:
saurabh 02-03-2003, 02:10:PM Surely u make sense.I thought same bu it would not be as user friendly as i would like to.
Hrvoje Bajlo 02-03-2003, 02:12:PM yep! i can try my best ;)
PeeJay2K2 02-03-2003, 02:19:PM sorry, hrvoje, but i believe that saurabh was referring to the "Zip-file-within-a-Zip-file" idea, not your VB program
Hrvoje Bajlo 02-03-2003, 02:31:PM Originally posted by PeeJay2K2
sorry, hrvoje, but i believe that saurabh was referring to the "Zip-file-within-a-Zip-file" idea, not your VB program
no mate, we spoken now via msn and i am making VB Tool called HQ Adboards Selector more news and screenshots comming soon!
Marcus 02-03-2003, 02:33:PM Great news :D :bob: :bob:
PeeJay2K2 02-03-2003, 03:08:PM ok. whatever. both ideas are great. btw, congratulations on your re-acceptance hrvoje...
MATBO 02-03-2003, 03:20:PM great news mate!
Hakeem 03-03-2003, 12:35:AM Originally posted by Marcus
Can't it be done in access? because when I told Saurabh the Adboard ID numbers for the team i took it from access.
As I said that field is there but it doesnt work for new teams like the stadium ID.
a lot of stuff in access dont work in the game. It can only be done in the DBIs :(
Hrvoje Bajlo 03-03-2003, 12:59:AM tool RELASED!!!
Hakeem 03-03-2003, 01:19:AM great work man! :)
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