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ogsimon
21-03-2003, 02:08:PM
It would be Tif 2002 combined with fifa 2003 and pro evo.

It would be so cool if someone took the initiative and looked at the good points of these games and incorporated them into one game. and for some reason, i believe that ea are the only ones capable.

Tif 2002 (for those of u who have not played it):
-Two footers
-Diving
-Commentary
-more leagues than fifa.. portuguese etc
-player stats where goals are scored
- Freaking Sub cinematics
-Limping
- knock the ball in front of you

Pro Evolution
- general gameplay animation
- gameplay (including heading passing shooting tactics)
- accurate stats
- crowd jeering like in spanish, italian leagues
- samba drums in crowd
- commentary leading up to goals
- different language commentary
- goal straight to goal celebration ( no stopping), or hands on head
- practice mode
- master league transfer system/ potential players
- difficulty
- different pitch patterns/ pitches affected by weather
- Free Kicks

Fifa 2003
- Graphics
- Most crowd chants ( could be more)
- Player runs
- Stadia
- Liscences
- many cinematics
- Free kick ball position thing

Past Games
- Indoor football (fifa 99)
- Elbows (fifa 98 i think)
- Creation centre 2002
- Bullet headers

Missing
- Blood
- Stretchers, injury cinematics
- CHAMPIONS LEAGUE THEME AND LINEUP
- Uefa liscence. champs ball
- highlights of past matches
- small screen at bottom, to show what is going on in the other match in ur group
- time of match. eg 3pm in winter, starts to get darker later on
- weather change
- matches called off for snow
- commentator suggestions on tactics

theres more but i will write it later in this threadCHAMPIONS LEAGUE THEME AND LINEUP

theCRO
21-03-2003, 05:10:PM
he perfect game? WE6FE with a licence. I'm afraid FIFA lacks far behind even in graphics, WE6FE graphics are much better than the Canadians at could muster.

If a hardcore simulation like WE had all those leagues etc. we would be losing on the reality factor, because too many teams will have incorrect or similar styles of play. In the latest version, every team has a recognisable style and lineup which is near perfect to real life. Having 600 teams will make the realism suffer.

Gascoigne USA
21-03-2003, 07:30:PM
AMEN!

ogsimon
21-03-2003, 07:36:PM
what. it would not make the game unrealistic. cus there are so many different variations of stats that they could have so many different players. if they want to they could research the players. besides i am talking about the combinig of all of the good things. plus they have all of the special abilities like intercept, positioning etc. the variations are enormous. so no i could not see how the realism would suffer please explain

hchu
21-03-2003, 08:21:PM
Originally posted by ogsimon

-Two footers
-Diving
-player stats where goals are scored
- knock the ball in front of you


Could you plz elaborate more on these?

What is a two footer??

What about the diving, why is it better than other games?

Don't really get it when you said, "player stats where goals are scored"...?

What and how do you mean when you mention knocking the ball in front of you.


Obviously, I haven't played and of the TIF series. You just got me really intrested with some of these points.

ogsimon
21-03-2003, 08:36:PM
-well two footers is a type of foul, maybe u could use it when u are frustrated, its like a stomping action, very dangerous

-Diving, is when you attempt to gain a free kick. in This is football (TIF), you can dive, depending on the tackle or the position of the ref he will give you a yellow or a free kick, so i u are stuck and u r anticipating a tackle u may dive

- like it could show ur season stats, like where most of ur goals are scored, assists, also make man of the match more realistic, eg who is dominating game, not always who scores most goals, or makes most saves
- knocking the ball in front of you, is like what henry does, its like passing the ball to urself and running on to it and using ur pace

hchu
21-03-2003, 08:48:PM
Originally posted by ogsimon
-well two footers is a type of foul, maybe u could use it when u are frustrated, its like a stomping action, very dangerous

-Diving, is when you attempt to gain a free kick. in This is football (TIF), you can dive, depending on the tackle or the position of the ref he will give you a yellow or a free kick, so i u are stuck and u r anticipating a tackle u may dive

- like it could show ur season stats, like where most of ur goals are scored, assists, also make man of the match more realistic, eg who is dominating game, not always who scores most goals, or makes most saves
- knocking the ball in front of you, is like what henry does, its like passing the ball to urself and running on to it and using ur pace

Don't know about the first one about 'stomping' fouls. The shoulder budge, pull the shirt button seems enough for me in WE/PES.

And the second one...maybe.. didn't really work out for FIFA.

But the other two, they sound Great~

ALVALADE-XXI
21-03-2003, 08:53:PM
Originally posted by ogsimon
It would be Tif 2002 combined with fifa 2003 and pro evo.

It would be so cool if someone took the initiative and looked at the good points of these games and incorporated them into one game. and for some reason, i believe that ea are the only ones capable.

Tif 2002 (for those of u who have not played it):
-Two footers
-Diving
-Commentary
-more leagues than fifa.. portuguese etc
-player stats where goals are scored
- Freaking Sub cinematics
-Limping
- knock the ball in front of you

Pro Evolution
- general gameplay animation
- gameplay (including heading passing shooting tactics)
- accurate stats
- crowd jeering like in spanish, italian leagues
- samba drums in crowd
- commentary leading up to goals
- different language commentary
- goal straight to goal celebration ( no stopping), or hands on head
- practice mode
- master league transfer system/ potential players
- difficulty
- different pitch patterns/ pitches affected by weather
- Free Kicks

Fifa 2003
- Graphics
- Most crowd chants ( could be more)
- Player runs
- Stadia
- Liscences
- many cinematics
- Free kick ball position thing

Past Games
- Indoor football (fifa 99)
- Elbows (fifa 98 i think)
- Creation centre 2002
- Bullet headers

Missing
- Blood
- Stretchers, injury cinematics
- CHAMPIONS LEAGUE THEME AND LINEUP
- Uefa liscence. champs ball
- highlights of past matches
- small screen at bottom, to show what is going on in the other match in ur group
- time of match. eg 3pm in winter, starts to get darker later on
- weather change
- matches called off for snow
- commentator suggestions on tactics

theres more but i will write it later in this threadCHAMPIONS LEAGUE THEME AND LINEUP


RESUMING :

*TIF (or WTS for non-Europeens) competitions;
*FIFA licences
*WES/PES gameplay
*football reallity:rockman: :mrpimp:

ogsimon
21-03-2003, 09:01:PM
i think diving would be cool. if not two foot, they need different tackle, foul animations.

maybe a bit of gamesmanship, eg player staying on the floor, wasting time, inaccurate time added on sometimes, how about a few wrong offside decisions- with cinematic of players arguing to the ref

ALVALADE-XXI
21-03-2003, 09:26:PM
Originally posted by ogsimon
i think diving would be cool. if not two foot, they need different tackle, foul animations.

maybe a bit of gamesmanship, eg player staying on the floor, wasting time, inaccurate time added on sometimes, how about a few wrong offside decisions- with cinematic of players arguing to the ref

...on your words we can add to this "perfect game" a litlle bit of "Red Card Soccer"!!!!! (H)

ogsimon
21-03-2003, 09:51:PM
i havent played that before. thats like a fouling football game aint it

ALVALADE-XXI
21-03-2003, 10:24:PM
It's a # one...if you want to see agressions(in the real sense of the word), unfair-gaming and non-fairplay attitude, you must play this game...But i was kidding...i understand your point of view; it should be really nice if we have a game that gives us the "real-feeling" of the football match. But i guess there's anothers issues most importants than those ones...MARKET!SELLS!MONEY!

I think konami, actually, is the only one that have all it needs to make the "perfect game", if they are really interested in risk a big amount of money buying the Leagues "rights"(licences)...on this point of view, they should make an effort to score this gold, because this is the right time to stole "market" to EA, and play the game on their own ground-THE LEAGUES LICENCES!!!!!

ogsimon
21-03-2003, 10:52:PM
i guess we will just wait and see

Dan the monkey
22-03-2003, 03:41:PM
and i would also like to add that it would be on all platforms :D