portugal vs macedonia

whats the score going to be like

1-2

ohh I'll say:

Portugal:2
Macedonia: 0

My prediction is about 4-0 or more... :rockman:

DECO!!! :D

lets see:

Macedonia 0:3 Portugal

agree w/ ya k3zno, DECO=GOD*

*only when on duty with the selecçao, not when he plays for fcp

I don't get all this hype over Deco, yes he's good and will help out the NT but Figo, Rui Costa and Pauleta (IMO) are all better than him...

Anyways I say 4-1 Portugal. Pauleta hat-trick and hopefully Silas will finally get a cap and score...

Hmm...With Portugal in top form after defeating Brazil, I'd say

Portugal : 3
Macedonia : 1

Portugal : 6

Macedonia : 0 (not sure)


Pauleta is better than Deco??? u cant say a player is better than other, u must say in what aspect he is better! and u cant compare Pauleta and Deco, they don't play in the same position..u can say that a player is more influent but not better than others cuz it depends in so much things...

You can't compare 2 players which play different positions.

As for the result... I'll be optimistic about it and say...

Portugal: 8
Macedonia-2(only because our players will be tired of scoring goals;) )

Originally posted by K3nzo
My prediction is about 4-0 or more... :rockman:

DECO!!! :D

I also say 4-0 and Deco will get his 2nd goal on 2nd cap!

I also see Nuno Gomes scoring the 4th :rolleyes: :o I know incredible but he will, he always scores against teams like this be it Cyprus,Luchenstien,etc... Plus he will get some playing time as we will have a conftortable lead. The other 2 goals are up for grabs.. Maybe Rui Costa and a defender. :confused: but I will go with the 4-0.

But this time Deco starts and Simão can sit his ass in the bench!

Viva PORTUGAL e a nossa Selecção!

:rockman:

Macedonia isn't that bad you know...I may be wrong, but I doubt we will bag a truck-load of goals like some of you guys are predicting..:confused:

Originally posted by Goo Goo boy
Pauleta is better than Deco??? u cant say a player is better than other, u must say in what aspect he is better! and u cant compare Pauleta and Deco, they don't play in the same position..u can say that a player is more influent but not better than others cuz it depends in so much things... Alright fine, but I was refering to who's more valuable to Portugal (Pauleta is our only striker).

But this time Deco starts and Simão can sit his ass in the bench! :rolleyes:

PORTUGAL.....3
MACEDONIA...1

The real man of Portugal is LUIS FIGO-he will score twice-Deco is just a 2nd choise-after Rui Costa.

i agree with u calve11..but i think deco is important cause Rui has his days...
Luis Figo doesnt give a damn about the NT:kader:

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
The real man of Portugal is LUIS FIGO-he will score twice- If Figo had the heart, you would be 100% right...

IF Figo didn't give a **** about the NT, then he wouldn't have been one of the only players to show disgust at the FPF prior to Scolari's appointment. If anything, Figo IS the only player who really has the guts to go on and say whats on his mind.

Originally posted by calve11
If Figo had the heart, you would be 100% right...
If Simao had the talent, then we wouldn't need Deco.

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
If Simao had the talent, then we wouldn't need Deco. Please :rolleyes:

Simão freezes at the AA level, this is his problem and hopefully it will end soon. Simão doesn't have the talent? LoL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't be pissed because SCP sells all their talents for a quick buck. You know you would love Simão if he was still in the green & white.

As for Figo, listen to Goo Goo Boy:

Luis Figo doesnt give a damn about the NT :kader:


BTW, Deco plays the same position as Rui Costa, NOT Simão. ;)

Originally posted by calve11
Please :rolleyes:

Simão freezes at the AA level, this is his problem and hopefully it will end soon. Simão doesn't have the talent? LoL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't be pissed because SCP sells all their talents for a quick buck. You know you would love Simão if he was still in the green & white.

As for Figo, listen to Goo Goo Boy:




BTW, Deco plays the same position as Rui Costa, NOT Simão. ;)
If Simao freezes at AA level, he is unfit to play, end of story. A true player doesn't let dumb emotions like that get in the way of playing.

And if Simao DOES have talent, then he obviously hasn't shown it for a good year or so.

All their talents? We still have plenty more talents than Benfica, while Benfica stocks up on rejects and middle-aged, we have fricken 11 year olds developing faster than Nuno Gomes! Don't be so pissed because Benfica hasn't had an actual talent from their training camp, EVER. Not one player has ever developed in Benfica which has gone on to be a great talent. Eusebio? You should know. Gomes, Boavista. Rui Costa, Fafe. Almost every single player who's gone through Benfica to become something has gone somewhere beforehand.

BTW-I never said Deco played the same position as Rui Costa. But if you noticed he has more heart than Simao, he plays in a position he normally doesn't play and still manages to beat Simao's playing in what 20 minutes?

And fact is maybe I would love Simao if he was still in the green and white, but that'd only be because if he stayed at Sporting, he probably would've been something. But he decided to go to Barcelona and become a nobody. Then he decided to go to a club in desperation and looked like a god for a year. Now he's back to the stage where he was at Barca, only he actually plays.

And for the Figo comment, you obviously have a little redundant problem. Read my reply about the Figo situation. Now there was only one person who brought that situation up, and I believe another who supported that theory. I simply set the record straight, you decided to just repost something I'd replied to.

go macedonia! :brow:

im a macedonian and i agree they played crap against slovakia but against the big teams they add a little bit to their game. i say macedonia 2 - 1 portugal

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Macedonia isn't that bad you know...I may be wrong, but I doubt we will bag a truck-load of goals like some of you guys are predicting..:confused:

I'm with Luis here. Macedonia, all respect to them, is not as bad as some might think. We'll have a tough time beaking their defence. If we score early, I see a 3-0 or 3-1 win. Otherwise, we'll definitely have sweat a lot to come out on top.

That's what always happens with us: we win a big game and then think we're taking on the world next... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
If Simao freezes at AA level, he is unfit to play, end of story. A true player doesn't let dumb emotions like that get in the way of playing.

And if Simao DOES have talent, then he obviously hasn't shown it for a good year or so.

All their talents? We still have plenty more talents than Benfica, while Benfica stocks up on rejects and middle-aged, we have fricken 11 year olds developing faster than Nuno Gomes! Don't be so pissed because Benfica hasn't had an actual talent from their training camp, EVER. Not one player has ever developed in Benfica which has gone on to be a great talent. Eusebio? You should know. Gomes, Boavista. Rui Costa, Fafe. Almost every single player who's gone through Benfica to become something has gone somewhere beforehand.

BTW-I never said Deco played the same position as Rui Costa. But if you noticed he has more heart than Simao, he plays in a position he normally doesn't play and still manages to beat Simao's playing in what 20 minutes?

And fact is maybe I would love Simao if he was still in the green and white, but that'd only be because if he stayed at Sporting, he probably would've been something. But he decided to go to Barcelona and become a nobody. Then he decided to go to a club in desperation and looked like a god for a year. Now he's back to the stage where he was at Barca, only he actually plays. Oh my God, your so ignorant! I said he freezes with the NT! No talent your seriously ****ing STUPID! Have you seen him with Benfica?!?!?!!?

About Benfica bringing up players, why do that when we can get good players off Sporting for 5$? Sporting brings up great players, but WTF does that mean when the team ****ing sucks!? Tell me!

Now he's back to the stage where he was at Barca, only he actually plays You gotta be ****ing stupid, he played bad against Brazil OHHH BIG DEAL, does that mean he sucks? You think 16 SuperLiga goals come for free? Simão is better than every player on Sporting, period.

portugal vs macedonia
final result 1-0
figo 26min
all i can say they were lucky that grozdanovski didn`t score in the end of the game.
and i will like to point out that milosevski was man of the match for me(macedonian GK).

Originally posted by popov
portugal vs macedonia
final result 1-0
figo 26min
all i can say they were lucky that grozdanovski didn`t score in the end of the game.
and i will like to point out that milosevski was man of the match for me(macedonian GK).

yeah! you are probably right! we almost lost to all mighty Macedonia, they controlled the entire game, they proved to be much better, we were the ones with rough and violent fouls during all game! :crazyboy:

please.... :kader:

When was the last time Benfica bought a player from Sporting though? Think about it genius.

About Simao, if a player can't handle a situation he isn't fit to play by any means. There's no exceptions.

And Simao DOES indeed suck not just over the Brazil game, but overall he sucks. He'll score in freekicks but he won't actually score from his own creations. You can consider him a good freekick taker, but not by any means a good or even decent outfield player.

Were we lucky to not let that goal in, or was it simply Macedonia's lack of skills? You think about that.

Well not that bad, i give him some credit!! he is not the genius that Benfica make out of him, but he is good, he has good skills, he's fast, good dribling, etc... i think he needs bigger challenges to improve, maybe a more competitive league!!!

That's why he went to Spain. He flunked with flying colors.

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
That's why he went to Spain. He flunked with flying colors. It was because he was too yound and inexperienced and yes both Deco and Simão are almost too good for our league (same goes for Jardel, well last year). Listen to K3nzo, he knows and he's not being biased, Simão is very talented and its sad that you think what you do. Why would Manchester United want Simão? Why did Inter offer Conceicao to Benfica in a straight swap for Simão? Why is Simão worth 20 million Euros, because he has no skills? Keep on talking, because while your talking he's leading the SuperLiga in goals and has 8 assists to his credit. Talk what you want but facts are facts. And I tired of argueing with you, you say Simão has NO skills and that obviuosly shows how much you know about our football.

Anyways, Portugal one! Wooohhoooo! Luis Figo got the game winner for us :rockman: Was it a good game? (while you guys were watching it I was writing a math exam :f***: )

It's called exaggeration, you didn't happen to notice it? Simao has talent, but he's not shown it for months. And if you're quitting to argue with me why are you still arguing?

And I think that even if I DIDN'T know about Simao(other than that he's still too immature with the ball), that doesn't mean I know nothing about your football. You can't judge someone because they don't know one single player too well.

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
It's called exaggeration, you didn't happen to notice it? Simao has talent, but he's not shown it for months. And if you're quitting to argue with me why are you still arguing?

And I think that even if I DIDN'T know about Simao(other than that he's still too immature with the ball), that doesn't mean I know nothing about your football. You can't judge someone because they don't know one single player too well. Oh of course he hasen't been showing it in months, he only has 7 goals in his last 6 SuperLiga games, including a wonderful hat trick against Setubal a couple weeks ago, and thats not even mentioning all the assists he's racked up.

Wow, just saw Figo's goal, that was World Class! (H)

Originally posted by calve11
Wow, just saw Figo's goal, that was World Class! (H)

It was a nice play, excellent heel touch of Conceicao! :hump:

it wasn`t that great.

Originally posted by popov
it wasn`t that great.

POPOV u maybe macedonian like me but thats a poor excuse and a poor view on sportsmanship. im my opinion great result for us. only a 1-0 loss to a former world player or the year's strike.

what do you mean a great result.
we can beat them they lost to u.s.a, we played 0-0 with u.s.a away
they lost to s.korea we draw 2-2 with them and beat them 2-1
so you tell me if this is a great result.
i can only say that we didn`t play with our strongest team
popov was mising (best macedonian player 2 years in a row)
so was baldovaliev,tolevski,aleksandar mitrevski,petrov and some more.
and we have a stupid manager how dosen`t let our best player play for a our national team
ciric hasn`t `played for macedonia for over a year a half
micevski
stavrevski
hristov (our best striker)
serafimovski
zaharievski
and much more.

Sure!!

LOLOLOL :D

Originally posted by popov
they lost to s.korea we draw 2-2 with them and beat them 2-1


this was a fair while ago. macedonia wont beat korea at their current strength.

that was 2000
and we can beat them
we have a very young team i don`t think that any one has a that younger than us:
pandev 18
stojkov 18
sumolikovski 19
naumovski 19
tolevski 18
popov 20
vasovski 20
grozdanovski 19
baldovaliev 18
mitrevski 23
mitrevski 22
vajs 19
sedlovski 27
sakiri 28
milosevski 28
trajanov 24
petrov 24
pacovski 18
jancevski 22
and much more there are only 4 players older then 26
and two 25 and 23
every one is younger
lots of 18 and 19

you're right man, Macedonia is better than Portugal and you're playing brilliantly in qualification, I'm sure we'll see you in 2004 where Macedonia will prove how powerful they are, with such household names as sedlovski, tolevski, and starski and hutch! :rockman:

seriously man, get real....learn to be a little more objective. I have no trouble admitting when Portugal plays poorly or doesn't deserve to win..

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL:crazyboy: :crazyboy: popov, u crazy boy LOL:crazyboy:

i`m objective,i have no trouble admitting when macedonia is out played but portugal didn`t do that.
not even turckey did that
england didn`t do that much but they were better then us but we draw 2-2.
and don`t talk about a team you have seen more the one time.
cause losing to two teams that we draw or beat is not that great of a result we are rank 87 you are ranked 12.
so do not diss me country thats something i don`t take good.

Originally posted by popov

cause losing to two teams that we draw or beat is not that great of a result we are rank 87 you are ranked 12.


So f*cking what?? Brasil has lost to Korea and the USA before too! Results are results, they don't always go the way they should on paper, that's football...every game and situation is different. Beleive me, Portugal has had a lot worse results than losing to America and Korea...a lot worse! Sh!t happens..

Besides, I was one of the few who actually gave your country some respect and said that Macedonia wasn't a bad team, and that we wouldn't win by a big score. So don't even start that "don't diss my country" bullsh!t with me :rolleyes:

i saw the game and i saw that portugal only played well ih the first 15minutes and that macedonia completely sucks...i think estonia and slovakia are much better if we're talking about poor football national teams..and this is not insulting your country Popov, it has NOTHING to do with that!! when portugal was a bad team i said it with no problems...but if u want keep saying macedonia could beat portugal...

Comparing Macedonia to Portugal is absolutely stunning lol.

Heck, if we went on a roar everytime we lost by one goal to a team we would've celebrated at the World Cup!!!

i`m sick off this the fact it portugal isn`t that strong if you lose to korea wich got to 4th palce on the world cup by hosting the damn thing and they were helped be bad refering, i mean come on how can
korea beat italy and spain(they scored two clear golas).
so if they lose to korea they suck.

Originally posted by popov
i`m sick off this the fact it portugal isn`t that strong if you lose to korea wich got to 4th palce on the world cup by hosting the damn thing and they were helped be bad refering, i mean come on how can
korea beat italy and spain(they scored two clear golas).
so if they lose to korea they suck.
I nominate that for most arrogantly ignorant post of 2003.

No, that was just retarded :rolleyes:

Originally posted by popov
i`m sick off this the fact it portugal isn`t that strong if you lose to korea wich got to 4th palce on the world cup by hosting the damn thing and they were helped be bad refering, i mean come on how can
korea beat italy and spain(they scored two clear golas).
so if they lose to korea they suck.

?

Umm, Ok....so by your logic, then I can also say that Portugal is the greatest team on Earth because we beat Brazil who are world cup champions, therefore if we can beat them then we must surely be the best, no? :rolleyes: :confused:
....and Macedonia must REALLY SUCK HARD then since they lost to Portugal who sucks because they lost to Korea!


:kader:

This reminds me of the USA-Poland game. Moronic person at school says "Oh well because Portugal beat Poland we should beat them easy."

But as you can see this didnt go as so. Football is a game where statistics, and recent records don't matter.

just wonder do u guys have real good keepers like khan and rustu or average keeper?? Just wondering cuz i dont know much about portugal football team.

Ricardo the GK from Boavista is pretty good!!! :rockman:

http://www.seleccao-portuguesa.net/player-ricardo.jpg

Originally posted by popov

so if they lose to korea they suck.

oh

my

god.

someone restrain me please, before i throw a ****ing pyscho.

korea beat poland. korea beat portugal. korea beat italy and spain. does that mean that poland, portugal, italy and spain all suck?

Besides considering we were down 2 men, I think we played better than Macedonia would've done 2 men down.

For the GK question, Quim is pretty good as well, Vitor Baia had his day, but every now and then he managed to get good games. And Benfica's Morreira is starting to develop.

Yeah, I think Ricardo is right up there with Rustu and Kahn. The guy is awesome! Also I agree with Hugo, Moreira will also be good, but he still makes some errors but those will go away as he gets more experience.

sorry guys for my fellow countrymans outbursts. macedonia do completely suck because in the last two games we played we never took our opportunities. against slovakia we had 20 shots on goal all missing, slovakia had 2 and scored 2 goals.

Macedonia could be good. If there players didn't act so defensive for the whole game, then when they got the shots theyd put them away.

JuVeNtUs26** were do you live???