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odnlinx 09-05-2003, 02:18:AM I just sign friedel to my man yu ml(hope it comes true in real life) and I was really disappointed wit his stats. So i decided to change them to reflect his level of play. this is wat i came up with.
defense: 95
respnose:93
speed:81
acceleration:80
stamina:80
thats bout it i put the rest bout 70.
Im wondering wat you guys think. I tried to be objective but its hard if your a fan. Please feel free to argue wit me bout his stats. i want to give him correct stats for him, but i dont want to make him invisible either. i also added the pk ability and the 1on1 ability. opinions are needed. tia.
sabonis 09-05-2003, 02:59:AM friedel used to play for Galatasaray and I know him and I watch some games of him in the EPL too
you've given the speed and accelerations too high, also there should be no PK keeper ability. So, acceleration 76, speed 70, response 90, defense 92, body balance 92
I think those should be fare
odnlinx 09-05-2003, 03:07:AM insteresting. but no pk ablity? He saves 80 percent of all the pks he faces. maybe im wrong maybe someone has a better judge on his pk saving but i think his deserves that one. you might be right about the speed though. ill see wat the average opinion is.
bertkamp16 09-05-2003, 04:59:AM if there's ANY star Friedel should have, it's the pk keeper star....
I have a good idea for finding his stats. Look at the stats for all prem keepers in the game, then find out which of those keepers has the best stats, then make friedels stats higher :)
odnlinx 09-05-2003, 05:13:AM thats good idea, i used barthez as a comparison, so naturally friedal's mentality and stability are quite higher than his, and i went form there. i find it funny that keller has higher rating than him. damn konami maybe they will make it a bit more accurate next time around.
314frog 09-05-2003, 07:34:AM defense: 90
respnose:92
speed:83
acceleration:83
stamina:83
thats bout it i put the rest bout low 80's
much better!
peace
Gascoigne USA 09-05-2003, 10:15:PM I left them at what they are in FE, and he plays great with them, and your right he shoudl 100% have aPK star, right now there is no better.
jumbo 09-05-2003, 11:42:PM Originally posted by odnlinx
I just sign friedel to my man yu ml(hope it comes true in real life) and I was really disappointed wit his stats. So i decided to change them to reflect his level of play. this is wat i came up with.
defense: 95
respnose:93
speed:81
acceleration:80
stamina:80
thats bout it i put the rest bout 70.
Im wondering wat you guys think. I tried to be objective but its hard if your a fan. Please feel free to argue wit me bout his stats. i want to give him correct stats for him, but i dont want to make him invisible either. i also added the pk ability and the 1on1 ability. opinions are needed. tia.
def 95? wtf bro.. lil' bit too high.........
86,87,88...
bertkamp16 09-05-2003, 11:52:PM Originally posted by jumbo
def 95? wtf bro.. lil' bit too high.........
86,87,88...
86,87,88...? wtf bro...lil' bit too low...even Seaman has a 91...Barthez a 98, Dudek a 92, keller 89, shay given 90 and so on and so on...
I think your stats are just about right, odnlinx :)
odnlinx 10-05-2003, 12:53:AM jumbo were you a sleep when they annouce friedel as the number one goalie in the premereship. And if im not mistaken, doesnt he have the most shut outs this season. keller is 89 so your telling me that friedel is not as good or liek my opinion a better goalie than him. dude i dont want to start a flame here but wtf is wrong wit you. i put his defense less than barthez just to make it a bit harder on me. but damn G wake up and smell the coffee . theres no way friedel is 86.
andremc11 10-05-2003, 03:43:AM Originally posted by odnlinx
insteresting. but no pk ablity? He saves 80 percent of all the pks he faces. maybe im wrong maybe someone has a better judge on his pk saving but i think his deserves that one. you might be right about the speed though. ill see wat the average opinion is.
Your not wrong at all.Your absouletly correct!!!Brad is the best keeper America ever had.:D ;)
Wooo!:jambo:
andremc11 10-05-2003, 03:58:AM Originally posted by odnlinx
jumbo were you a sleep when they annouce friedel as the number one goalie in the premereship. And if im not mistaken, doesnt he have the most shut outs this season. keller is 89 so your telling me that friedel is not as good or liek my opinion a better goalie than him. dude i dont want to start a flame here but wtf is wrong wit you. i put his defense less than barthez just to make it a bit harder on me. but damn G wake up and smell the coffee . theres no way friedel is 86.
Well said Friedel is way better than Keller.Keller is the reason why USA performed poorly at WC 98.Friedel is the future for USA.
def 95? wtf bro.. lil' bit too high.........
86,87,88...
Get your stats right young chap!!;) :confused: (H)
Wooo!:jambo:
jumbo 10-05-2003, 06:27:AM well, whatever..
in this case,
don't forget to increase Buffon's and Kahn's def to 99
Casillas' to.. at least 97
young chaps ;)
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Friedel 95 vs Buffon 96
1-point difference?
1-point difference?
Friedel and Buffon - 1-point difference? Hell no.
^^ pretty phucked up if you ask me.
[Buffon beaten 22 times in 31 matches in this season vs Friedel beaten 43 times in 37 matches - suppouse they've played in every match] - and that is just this season since your brought up Friedels' this years accomplishment.
Friedel 95 vs Kahn 98
The best goalie in the world. Only 3-point difference when in real life they're like two worlds apart? (i'm exagg a bit but still - Kahn is BETTER).
^^ kinda phucked up too.
[Kahn beaten 20 times in 31 matches in this season vs Friedel beaten 43 times in 37 matches]
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Am I missin something? any tricks? any hidden chargers? buy 1, get 2 free? WTF?
I say - Friedels' Def Stat should not be any bigger than 90.
jumbo 10-05-2003, 08:08:AM I'm not tryin to start any kind flame war - just wanna be fair.
Barthez's stats are obviously a bit too high.
FuriousGeorge 10-05-2003, 09:28:AM Dis anyone... but don't dis Friedel. He is an Amazing keeper... Maybe we should just specialize on keepers...
andremc11 10-05-2003, 04:03:PM Originally posted by jumbo
[B]well, whatever..
in this case,
don't forget to increase Buffon's and Kahn's def to 99
Casillas' to.. at least 97
young chaps ;)
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You're learning young chap!!:D ;)
Wooo!:jambo:
andremc11 10-05-2003, 04:04:PM Originally posted by FuriousGeorge
Dis anyone... but don't dis Friedel. He is an Amazing keeper... Maybe we should just specialize on keepers...
Well said.:D ;)
Wooo!:jambo:
odnlinx 10-05-2003, 11:01:PM Well friedel has been beaten 43 times, but you also hav to take into account that his working with a weaker total defense around him. you cant compare munich's defense with that of rovers. Theres been alot of games where if it wasnt for fridel rovers would hav lost. You telling me if you put friedel in between the post for munich he wont be doing as well. As to casilla he has nearly as many goals aloud as friedel and if you include all the goals from the champions league his total is more than friedels. I think thats bout it. If you think the stats should be different please post them, Good debate is great, flames are bad. as long we dont hurl insults at each other its all good. :mrpimp:
JonnyDp 14-05-2003, 12:41:PM It's not just about the number of goals that go in, the whole team have a responsabilty for those. Friedel has made more SAVES than any other keeper in the premiership. That's the difference. :rolleyes:
JonnyDp 14-05-2003, 12:55:PM From Opta:
Friedel:
Mins on Pitch: 3330
Goals Conceded: 40
Clean Sheets: 15
Saves: 157!!!!!!
Saves to Shots: 89%!!!!!!!
Catches: 52
Punches: 15
Catch Sucess Rate: 98%!!!!!!!!!!!!
I couldn't find the same run down of stats for Buffon, but he's not even in the top 10 goalis in Serie A for saves. Frey is top with 112 saves, and 77% saves to shots.
:hump:
Gascoigne USA 14-05-2003, 03:46:PM Friedel is a awesome goal keeper, I havent yet fickled with his stats in FE, and I use him alot, he does good, but but maybe I shoudl up them a lil here and there. He is the best keeper in England, and if not the best in the world at the moment, he is in top 3. I think you put him where Kahn is he would be just as good if not better, he is quicker then Kahn, I think he is taller.... and he looks like Brad Pitt compared to that wookie. :) Friedel rules.
bertkamp16 14-05-2003, 03:52:PM Originally posted by Gascoigne USA
...and he looks like Brad Pitt compared to that wookie. :) Friedel rules.
LOL LOL True, true :)
bertkamp16 14-05-2003, 03:55:PM Originally posted by odnlinx
Well friedel has been beaten 43 times, but you also hav to take into account that his working with a weaker total defense around him. you cant compare munich's defense with that of rovers. Theres been alot of games where if it wasnt for fridel rovers would hav lost.
That's exactly what I was thinking...
From Opta:
Friedel:
Mins on Pitch: 3330
Goals Conceded: 40
Clean Sheets: 15
Saves: 157!!!!!!
Saves to Shots: 89%!!!!!!!
Catches: 52
Punches: 15
Catch Sucess Rate: 98%!!!!!!!!!!!!
I couldn't find the same run down of stats for Buffon, but he's not even in the top 10 goalis in Serie A for saves. Frey is top with 112 saves, and 77% saves to shots.
What STATS! great research :)
FnArFy 15-05-2003, 07:04:PM Gazza USA, I have the dvd i think your sig is from...
It gets me sooo pumped up :)
I think you forgot to add at the end "They're throbbing Portugal!!"
Gascoigne USA 15-05-2003, 07:42:PM Originally posted by FnArFy
Gazza USA, I have the dvd i think your sig is from...
It gets me sooo pumped up :)
I think you forgot to add at the end "They're throbbing Portugal!!"
Yeah I have the DVD too :) I made the sig from memory though :) Its a great DVD.
FnArFy 15-05-2003, 11:14:PM yes it is :) ahh the memories...
USA in 2006!!!!
Gascoigne USA 15-05-2003, 11:16:PM yes!
juventusita 16-05-2003, 01:05:AM Originally posted by jumbo
well, whatever..
in this case,
don't forget to increase Buffon's and Kahn's def to 99
Casillas' to.. at least 97
young chaps ;)
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Friedel 95 vs Buffon 96
1-point difference?
1-point difference?
Friedel and Buffon - 1-point difference? Hell no.
^^ pretty phucked up if you ask me.
[Buffon beaten 22 times in 31 matches in this season vs Friedel beaten 43 times in 37 matches - suppouse they've played in every match] - and that is just this season since your brought up Friedels' this years accomplishment.
Friedel 95 vs Kahn 98
The best goalie in the world. Only 3-point difference when in real life they're like two worlds apart? (i'm exagg a bit but still - Kahn is BETTER).
^^ kinda phucked up too.
[Kahn beaten 20 times in 31 matches in this season vs Friedel beaten 43 times in 37 matches]
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Am I missin something? any tricks? any hidden chargers? buy 1, get 2 free? WTF?
I say - Friedels' Def Stat should not be any bigger than 90.
And I say you have absoutely no idea who Brad Friedel is. I can tell from your other soccer posts that you really need to watch some real games and learn how to analyze and formulate opinions for yourself.
I think Buffon and Friedel are on the same level - THE BEST IN THE WORLD. Blackburn without Friedel would be 15th in the Premiership, instead they are going to be playing in the UEFA Cup next season. You give us some useless stat comparing Kahn with Friedel. Not only is the Premiership better overall than the Bundesliga, you're forgetting that Blackburn's back line doesn't exactly scream world class. Bayern not only has better defenders, but a much better team playing in front of Kahn. Kahn has really fallen off since the World Cup, although sometimes I feel like i'm the only one who's noticed this. Kahn at the most could be considered third best in the world. I personally feel he is fourth behind Casillas.
Don't act like you know what you're talking about, young chap.
Friedel 98
Buffon 98
Casillas 96
Kahn 96
Barthez 10 :mrpimp:
akvelocity365 16-05-2003, 01:22:AM Hopefully all of this is cleared up for WE7! Friedel definitelty got the shaft on his stats though! UGH! Some of you bohyz really need to look at the teams these keepers are playing for! The more shots your defense lets the offense take, the larger of a chance that more goals will be conceded by your keeper! It's common sense. So comparing Friedel to Kahn just by stats is plain ignorant, you have to look at the whole picture to assess a correct comparison. This should all be common knowledge though chaps. To be honost, I think it's good that Friedel is playing with Rovers right now, it will keep him sharp and a lot more alert seeing how his defense will be alllowing tons of shots to get off! TONS of in-game practice! heh. Also a big plus for the U.S. National Team!:p
bertkamp16 16-05-2003, 04:46:AM Originally posted by juventusita
And I say you have absoutely no idea who Brad Friedel is. I can tell from your other soccer posts that you really need to watch some real games and learn how to analyze and formulate opinions for yourself.
I think Buffon and Friedel are on the same level - THE BEST IN THE WORLD. Blackburn without Friedel would be 15th in the Premiership, instead they are going to be playing in the UEFA Cup next season. You give us some useless stat comparing Kahn with Friedel. Not only is the Premiership better overall than the Bundesliga, you're forgetting that Blackburn's back line doesn't exactly scream world class. Bayern not only has better defenders, but a much better team playing in front of Kahn. Kahn has really fallen off since the World Cup, although sometimes I feel like i'm the only one who's noticed this. Kahn at the most could be considered third best in the world. I personally feel he is fourth behind Casillas.
Don't act like you know what you're talking about, young chap.
Friedel 98
Buffon 98
Casillas 96
Kahn 96
Barthez 10 :mrpimp:
Finally someone with common sense and the argument to back it up....good job, juventusita!
Gascoigne USA 16-05-2003, 03:41:PM Yeah great gob. Some young ones around here dont understand that a great back line and a better overall team make a huge difference in the goals that are let in. Freidel has made FAR more saves the Kahn has without a doubt. And IMO is a better gk.
odnlinx 16-05-2003, 10:54:PM Im glad im not the only one that thinks Friedel is a great keeper. Im just a bit disappointed i wont be able to see him play at the confederation cup(i know its lame cup but still want to see him play) but atleast that way Howard will get a shot to play in europe and be given a look by the teams over there. Plus i live in miami so im going to get to see the USA play here for the semi of the Gold cup so im a be doing pretty good.
jumbo 17-05-2003, 04:02:AM Originally posted by juventusita
you really need to watch some real games
And who the hell are you dude? Don't even piss me off. I've watched more games that you could ever imagine & spent half of my life playin futbol. Don't give me that shlt & don't disrespect me like that.
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My appologies dude. I pulled that info outta my ass. I don't really know how Friedel plays 'cause haven't been hearin much about him 'till recently... I hope you feelin' me 'cause I don't wanna argue no more.
You all were right, really. I feel stupid for startin this argument.
Originally posted by Gascoine USA
Some young ones around here dont understand that a great back line and a better overall team make a huge difference in the goals that are let in.
Gascoine... ... ... tell me were kiddin'
Originally posted by akvelocity365
So comparing Friedel to Kahn just by stats is plain ignorant
Just like sayin that Friedel is better than Kahn 'cause he's made more saves...
Originally posted by akvelocity365
Some of you bohyz really need to look at the teams these keepers are playing for! The more shots your defense lets the offense take, the larger of a chance that more goals will be conceded by your keeper! It's common sense. So comparing Friedel to Kahn just by stats is plain ignorant, you have to look at the whole picture to assess a correct comparison. This should all be common knowledge though chaps.
Again... was that suppoused to be funny?
akvelocity365 18-05-2003, 10:48:AM Originally posted by jumbo Just like sayin that Friedel is better than Kahn 'cause he's made more saves...
Again... was that suppoused to be funny?
Firstly, you quote me on how I say that keepers can't be judged primarily on stats. DUH. It's a pretty obvious statement on my part, atleast among us that have common sense. BUT THEN you make your arguement (comeback)... LOL! blah blah blah... cause he's made more saves. Last time I checked, those "saves" are stats. I'm REALLY gald you came up with something I never said and secondly just reiterated my point! Are you praising me or downing me, huh, either way, don't make an arguement when you are just going to repeat what I said. Maybe even better, why waste your precious time quoting little ole me then acting like you are making an arguement against my points of view. All in all though, I guess you really got me there!:rolleyes:
Secondly..
Again... are quoting me and replying with useless commentary? I really can't see how anyone can find what you quoted me with as humorous in the least. I never knew stating common sense and basic knowledge could be confused with possible humor. Sorry YOU got confused about that portion of my post! What more can I say though, you quoted me twice and replied with basically nothing.
BUT enough of my useless commentary. All I can say in the end is people need to chill out! These are friggin stats you guys are freaking out over! WHOA!!!! Like I said, hopefully WE7I updates the stats to be a bit more realistic to current performances. Luckily my WE6FE is just fine for me for now!
Cheers:rolleyes:
bertkamp16 18-05-2003, 05:17:PM I totally agree with akvelocity365. Sorry, jumbo, but none of those responses you made about those quotes are funny or witty or even make any damn sense...
"And who the hell are you dude? Don't even piss me off. I've watched more games that you could ever imagine & spent half of my life playin futbol. Don't give me that shlt & don't disrespect me like that.
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My appologies dude. I pulled that info outta my ass. I don't really know how Friedel plays 'cause haven't been hearin much about him 'till recently... I hope you feelin' me 'cause I don't wanna argue no more.
You all were right, really. I feel stupid for startin this argument."
?????:confused:
jumbo 18-05-2003, 05:42:PM yo, why don't you ppl concentrate on Friedel's stats - just like the title of this thread suggests
bertkamp16 19-05-2003, 12:14:AM Originally posted by jumbo
yo, why don't you ppl concentrate on Friedel's stats - just like the title of this thread suggests
You should try taking your own advice...
jumbo 19-05-2003, 06:15:AM comon bro, how far are you tryin to take this shlt?
bertkamp16 22-05-2003, 09:14:AM You tell me...
BTW What the hell do you mean "U-S-A :("
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