Who here has been the victim of racism of any level? From mild taunt to serious dilemma, has it happened to you?

If so, what happened and what did you do?

Me. Some of you have already read (Luis, Hugo, Dragan, Rhizome) my case in another thread.

It began when Mrs Pauline Hanson (Independent Party)
that started to make sensitive comments towards Asians coming to Australia alot.

It happened when I was back to home in a train public transporation, shouted, "You are ****ing Asian, Go HOME !!" I was so scared ! There were 4 or 5, I think. I couldn't move my body, praying nothing happened to me. Well, luckily they were couple Asians (Vietnamese, I guess, since they can speak English fluently) on board too, trying to protect me.

Well, everything seemed okay afterward, no fighting between them on board, I just went off the train in one place, stucked there for the whole 1 hr. I was crying, don't know what to do, can't report to anyone because I was so damn SCARED.

And, no I didn't report to any police officers at that time.

well i have been called whitey before

what did I do? I said something racist - got the **** kicked out of me - landed in mud and now im browny :p

What do you say when you see your T.V. floating around at night?
Drop it nigger.

:(

Originally posted by Internazionale
Me. Some of you have already read (Luis, Hugo, Dragan, Rhizome) my case in another thread.

It began when Mrs Pauline Hanson (Independent Party)
that started to make sensitive comments towards Asians coming to Australia alot.

It happened when I was back to home in a train public transporation, shouted, "You are ****ing Asian, Go HOME !!" I was so scared ! There were 4 or 5, I think. I couldn't move my body, praying nothing happened to me. Well, luckily they were couple Asians (Vietnamese, I guess, since they can speak English fluently) on board too, trying to protect me.


I have a similar story: my sister was on a bus in Newton, Sydney travelling to work. An arab boarded the bus (on Sept 15th or 16th 2001 during all the histeria that was going on) it was obvious he was arab had the turbin on his head. - He said he wanted to go to Glebe Island. The bus driver ignored him after about 10minutes an asian lady stood up and told the Arab man "Go home, you ****ing terrorist."

Actually I have been racially abused once in my own damn country. I'm as dutch as anyone can possibly be. I'm white, eat pancakes (waffles if you like Dragan :crazyboy:.) and had a typical dutch upbringing. When I was in the train once a few marrocan kids, aged 18 or so started abusing me. Calling me a christian dog, a zionist and more of that ****.

Originally posted by Internazionale
Me. Some of you have already read (Luis, Hugo, Dragan, Rhizome) my case in another thread.

It began when Mrs Pauline Hanson (Independent Party)
that started to make sensitive comments towards Asians coming to Australia alot.

It happened when I was back to home in a train public transporation, shouted, "You are ****ing Asian, Go HOME !!" I was so scared ! There were 4 or 5, I think. I couldn't move my body, praying nothing happened to me. Well, luckily they were couple Asians (Vietnamese, I guess, since they can speak English fluently) on board too, trying to protect me.

Well, everything seemed okay afterward, no fighting between them on board, I just went off the train in one place, stucked there for the whole 1 hr. I was crying, don't know what to do, can't report to anyone because I was so damn SCARED.

And, no I didn't report to any police officers at that time.
How long ago was that? That's terrible.

You should always carry a Gat, sum'tin like a .22, incase you need bust a cap in sum niggaz azz, word.

What Kiwi said they weren't shearing their sheep?


*say that with a kiwi accent, you can have fun with it*

Not really racism, but I've been the victim of some xenophobia. No threats, nothing that serious, but some taunts, stuff like that.

I was on holiday in england, walking down the road in a scotland shirt and some wee sais prick(bout 18 or so) came up to me and told me to **** off and cald me a ginger, kilt wearing hagis ***er. I am not ginger and I duly smaked this boy in the face. What a prick

I make fun of all white guys in the NBA and assume that being white makes you suck at basketball.

In Brazil they once called me Hitler, Nazi or gazman.

i was in a bank and because i waked in with my mexican "homies" they assumed we were gonna rob the bank. They called the cops and everything.

Never been racially abused but had the piss taken out of me for having ginger hair plenty of times.

Try not to let it get to me.

Originally posted by mhflierman
Actually I have been racially abused once in my own damn country. I'm as dutch as anyone can possibly be. I'm white, eat pancakes (waffles if you like Dragan :crazyboy:.) and had a typical dutch upbringing. When I was in the train once a few marrocan kids, aged 18 or so started abusing me. Calling me a christian dog, a zionist and more of that ****.
yeah man you see that a lot these days all thos turkish peepz saying **** like that while they are in our country :kader: :kader: :kader:

Well me and my closest friends are people that comes from different race and tribe, and we like to call each other with racist insults for friendship`s sake . . . :crazyboy:

Originally posted by Deutschland
How long ago was that? That's terrible.

1995.

Originally posted by MrKoKane
yeah man you see that a lot these days all thos turkish peepz saying **** like that while they are in our country :kader: :kader: :kader:

Uh huh, let me tell you something about Dutch people since you're stereotyping. Dutch people in general are some racist people.

Yeah... the worst part is that I am Polish, it was in Poland, and it was by Polish people :| Basically my skin wasn't white enough for them.... :S A lot of beef with the skinhead ****s, some fights, nigger insults etc....

Here everyone's really cool about me being Polish :D I guess it's sort of exotic, so people ask me about life in PL a lot, chicks dig the Polish accent ;)

But just between my friends we racially insult each other :wootman: Like taking the piss of 'Hispanic border hoppers', 'Asian riceboys', or 'Mid Eastern bombers' and all the stereotypical ghetto stuff about blacks :p Like in my Eng. class that Korean and Syrian dude always give each other so much **** :junior: That's all for laughs though, and I know that neither of them mean it...

Originally posted by K-Man

But just between my friends we racially insult each other :wootman: Like taking the piss of 'Hispanic border hoppers', 'Asian riceboys', or 'Mid Eastern bombers' and all the stereotypical ghetto stuff about blacks :p Like in my Eng. class that Korean and Syrian dude always give each other so much **** :junior: That's all for laughs though, and I know that neither of them mean it...


Hehe.........me and some of my classmates do the same thing to a Chinese guy from my class............Soya-ball, Rice Cube, Vanilla Rice, Panda-fu**er.....but it's all jokes.....(H) :crazyboy:

I've had just about everything....from sand nigger to terrorist to Osama..Saddam....anthrax man....everything.

In holland there's a very general racism against muslims...marrocans and turkish people are seen as troublemakers but the Dutch are problemmakers themselves, they love to blame it on the foreigner. last year there was this politican, called pim forutyn, who wanted to close the country for muslims. very racist of course but whatever. i left before that guy gained a reputation, holland is ****ed up. but the guy got shot.

after 9/11 it got worse here...yesterday...my friend's car was blocking the street, this white guy (with an american flag and british flag; i wonder why :rolleyes: ) started yelling, so I'm "Chill dude" and he said to hurry up, so i gave him this look. he said "what? where's ya passport" i'm like "**** you bitchass, ****ing racist" .....and he raced by and called out "immigrant" i told my friend to go after him and take his license number or whatever but dude got away. and thats just yesterday.

now u wanna tell me racism doesnt exist? very funny.

there's no difference between jokes and racism. it's both racism! deal with yourself. you make jokes about asians or blacks, i make jokes about you.

I find that most people out there are somewhat racist to varying degrees, and not just white people either. (..but especially 'white' people)

What I've noticed to be even more disturbing is that people seem to be bolder and less inhibited about being racist in public. I notice this almost everyday at work, even dealing with clients who don't even know me have no hesitation about making little racial jokes or comments during small talk..

Originally posted by Vagegast
there's no difference between jokes and racism. it's both racism! deal with yourself. you make jokes about asians or blacks, i make jokes about you.

umm.. theres quite a big difference... I would never say anything to someone I don't know very well or meet for the first time; even if someone means it only as a joke it's uncalled for and shouldn't happen... But if I do it to a friend, and not around people who might get offended, then I think it's fine... I will never be the first one to make a bigot comment though, but even if someone says something to me... I don't really care, I just hit them back :junior: I don't ever mean it, and I don't they don't either... it's all good (C)

Originally posted by K-Man
umm.. theres quite a big difference... I would never say anything to someone I don't know very well or meet for the first time; even if someone means it only as a joke it's uncalled for and shouldn't happen... But if I do it to a friend, and not around people who might get offended, then I think it's fine... I will never be the first one to make a bigot comment though, but even if someone says something to me... I don't really care, I just hit them back :junior: I don't ever mean it, and I don't they don't either... it's all good (C)

every joke about races, religion, nationality etc. is stereotyping. most of 'em are racist.

here's one, you decide:

"When white people interview a black basketballer, they are surprised not that they won but that they can speak. But when the black people interview a white basketballer, they are not suprised that they can speak but that they made the team."

of course the jokes are racist... that's the point. But that doesn't mean I am racist, unless I really mean it. I don't know you well enough, so I won't joke with you like that... but among my friends, I know that no one takes any offence.

racist jokes nearly always backfire - no matter how cautious you are. I had a greek friend and now I dont - you get the picture.

To Vagegast: I have read alot of the racism problems in holland - its not surprising especially when you read about what PSV, Ajax or yes even Feyenoord fans say or do.

Racism in sport shouldn't exist - hell racism at all shouldn't exist, one person said dont worry well all asimilate into one race one day, however all of us wont be alive if and when it happens.

Originally posted by zul-aid
racist jokes nearly always backfire - no matter how cautious you are. I had a greek friend and now I dont - you get the picture.


that's why you can make racist comments only to the friends you know well enough and know they won't take it the wrong way..... basically, if you see them saying **** about others, it means you can throw something at them (C)

to Kader: i know, it doesnt make YOU a racist, but the joke paul said for example. i mean, thats just wrong.

zul-aid: Yes, Ajax has a Jewish influence, they carry Israeli flags, one of the founders was jewish, i'm not sure exactly, but now @ games against feyenoord you see this:

you know, if you believe the scientists, the first people were black. so according to them we're all black. how'd some become white? dunno. ask the people who know. :)

http://home.wanadoo.nl/afs-9/fnrd/01.jpg http://home.wanadoo.nl/afs-11/fnrd/07.jpg

Originally posted by K-Man
that's why you can make racist comments only to the friends you know well enough and know they won't take it the wrong way..... basically, if you see them saying **** about others, it means you can throw something at them (C)

I knew him very well for ten years.

Race doesn't exist dammit.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/5846064.htm

but RACism does..

You mean to tell me Joe that when someone like the KKK kills a black kid thats not racism - thats just population control.

After reading your article joe I saw this:


"Race is real in a political, social sense, but it's not biological," said Alan Templeton, a population biologist at Washington University in St. Louis.

Thats what we are discussing, socially their are races because people cannot see how a white man is seen to be the same as a black man - how Malcom X could be the same as President Bush or Osama to Colin Powell.

Well after sept 11 i did get some small stuff but the people who called me osama, muzzy are now my mates we joke around with each other now. There was this one wigger kid who called me an egyptian nigger,it didnt make me mad but i was 3 days away from going on vacation to egypt so i just punched the kid a couple of times than the teachers sent me home.....and that kids is the story of why Ahmed is better than Kader and Dragan.(H)



Vagegast (i always want to call you azizi so i just say your nic) the noords carry pala flags around just because Ajax wave some isreali flags sometimes, but the fact is Ajax has five muslims on the team as well as one player with a Muslim grandfather (ibrahimovic) and it may soon become 7 muslims on the team if Ajax but the Turk and the Iranian guys they have been watching,while noord has only 1...the point is words dont always mean much......:$ doesnt make sense really...what i wrote.

Originally posted by ahmedk
wigger [................] called me an egyptian nigger

*cough.......

Yeah yeah...I know. I read it in the paper yesterday, but I thought I'd make the argument. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Joe
Yeah yeah...I know. I read it in the paper yesterday, but I thought I'd make the argument. :rolleyes:

Yes race does exist, but maybe/ maybe not biological. - the article didnt support your argument which had nothing to do with this debate - race isnt racism as such.

Feyenoord fans are funny, going back to the picture below. The only reason I support them is because of the represent the working class region of Rotterdam and the country, but also im a fan of Emerton and Van Hoojidonk.

Racism exist - I dont deny that feyenoord fans are racist - that comes with the territory I guess - but racism does exist in football, mostly in the English and Dutch league.

Originally posted by Joe
Yeah yeah...I know. I read it in the paper yesterday, but I thought I'd make the argument. :rolleyes:

And you also blocked me on AIM :kader:

Is it because I'm Polish? :(

Originally posted by Nimreitz
I make fun of all white guys in the NBA and assume that being white makes you suck at basketball.
(Y) :D

Shawn Bradley :rolleyes:

Well after sept 11 i did get some small stuff but the people who called me osama, muzzy are now my mates we joke around with each other now. There was this one wigger kid who called me an egyptian nigger,it didnt make me mad but i was 3 days away from going on vacation to egypt so i just punched the kid a couple of times than the teachers sent me home.....and that kids is the story of why Ahmed is better than Kader and Dragan.(H)



Vagegast (i always want to call you azizi so i just say your nic) the noords carry pala flags around just because Ajax wave some isreali flags sometimes, but the fact is Ajax has five muslims on the team as well as one player with a Muslim grandfather (ibrahimovic) and it may soon become 7 muslims on the team if Ajax but the Turk and the Iranian guys they have been watching,while noord has only 1...the point is words dont always mean much......:$ doesnt make sense really...what i wrote. [/QUOTE]

i already mentioned i think, after 9/11 we had a fight with some white kids calling us (arab-looking, but some were spanish) terrorists. it turned into a fight, we didnt get suspended though...most of the white kids did.

what i'm trying to point out is that its a disgrace for these cockroaches to be waiving around the palestinian flag. a disgrace.

Originally posted by K-Man
Is it because I'm Polish? :(

Mod fight :junior:

Originally posted by K-Man
Yeah... the worst part is that I am Polish, it was in Poland, and it was by Polish people :| Basically my skin wasn't white enough for them.... :S A lot of beef with the skinhead ****s, some fights, nigger insults etc....

Here everyone's really cool about me being Polish :D I guess it's sort of exotic, so people ask me about life in PL a lot, chicks dig the Polish accent ;)

But just between my friends we racially insult each other :wootman: Like taking the piss of 'Hispanic border hoppers', 'Asian riceboys', or 'Mid Eastern bombers' and all the stereotypical ghetto stuff about blacks :p Like in my Eng. class that Korean and Syrian dude always give each other so much **** :junior: That's all for laughs though, and I know that neither of them mean it...
You know I got the same experience. I am a native Indonesian but ever since I was a kid I went to Christian schools which are dominated by Chinese ethnic. So I talk, act even look kinda Chinese. So some times ago, I was driving my old VW Beetle car, and I passed by a public school which was dominated by native ethnic, a stupid guy suddenly crossed the road without even looking at me. So I push the horn, it was so hard, that every single native ethnic student there yell at me ( translated from Indonesian language ) : "YOU ****IN` CHINESE !!!!!! GO **** WITH PIGS !!!!!", well I drove away from the scene to avoid more problems. Anyway, everytime I remember that it`s kinda funny . . .

Well, I guess not everyone can coupe racist comments. It`s not everyone`s type of joke. Me and my friends just wanna show that despite the race difference we have, we are still able to be friends and make an ironic joke out of it. :D

Everyone (of an ethnic minority) gets the odd comment, I do, I don't there is anyone who hasn't....

I get some **** for being Polish which is surprising, but then I get some **** from my Polish friends for being too American. I can't figure it out.