It is an absolutely incredible game.
At first look neone can tell this game is meant to be for the upper consoles than the PC, I mean all the characteristics are there. Konami have done well though, because this game is near perfect.

If you want highly realistic: Animations, Commentary, Atmosphere, Gameplay, Cut Scenes: this game is for you. Fifa has nothing on ISS3, it blows fifa away in every concept other than graphics, but what is EYE CANDY if you can't EAT it.

Okay, the intro is fabulous, typical perfect intros of Konami soccer. I wont' give it away because it is too breathtaking. Once the intro is done, there are many options. FRIENDLY MATCH-whcih consists of 1st player vs CPU,mor than 1player v.s CPU, or v.s eachother. Also there are multiplayer setups, ICP or LAN. I have yet to try it yet, because I have been too involved in my N.America League. Okay, to the OPTIONS.

I was rather dissapointed of the lack of options. THere is a SETTINGS prompt, but all it allows you to do is -turn off commentary and AUTOSAVE everything you do, whether you want that on or off. There is no sound editing, no graphical editing, no resolution changing, because this game is a definite console game. The great things come down the list though. EDITING-yes, typical Konami again, perfect Player editing and team editing. I will show some screenshots of the Player editing features.

Okay,out of the options. Onto the Leagues and CUPS.
There are 3 or 4, i have to check, but most of them are self explanatory.

OKay, once into the game setup ,meaning when you set up the TIME,difficulty, and controls. I was rather dissapointed of the amount of time that cannot be changed, the options given are rather bare, 2minutes,5minutes and 7minutes.I guess this is to create a rather even gameplay environment ( ea take tips). After getting over that, you move onto the screen of the STANDINGS,SCORE RANKINGS,ASSIST RANKINGS and others.

TEAM setup-
This is highly in depth, i mean highly in depth. from formations, to position editing,to off.positoning, to line editing, to place kickers,captains,(what!? we can change captains, ohhh the brainwashing of FIFA) and more.

THE GAME!

Finally,into the game. The loading screen is just a black screen, at least for mine. There the crowd noise appears and Mr. Champion and the analyst,forgot his name, begin. Mr. Champion talks about exact detail of how many points your team has gotten in the past championships and how many the opponent has,brilliant. Okay, back to the start, the animation begins either in the tunnel or as they are walking out. This animation is brilliant, the body movements,motion capture is astonishing and exact, there are no robotic elements present. As the teams come out, the national anthem is played for both teams of course. Then the heads or tails.

THE GAME FOR REAL! :rockman:

The gameplay is smooth, absolutely magnificent, i'm running on a g4 ti 4200 and love it. I have it on Image Setting on PERFORMANCE, AA on 2x, AF on 8x and REFRESH RATE is on 85.
Okay,back to teh game. Here is a big tip that will save you from getting so many damn cards. DO NOT keep pressing the tackle button ( pass button) when without the ball and when the opponent is facing away from you, DO NOT, you will get a card almost every time, it is safer to hold it down ( like fifa) and strafe and keep switching players. I have one complaint in matters of realism ,only one. SKILL, there is wayyy too much fancy skill you hardly ever see. It's basically like, the cpu performs one, take Ariel Ortega for example. He is one on 3, does one RAINBOW, and gets by everyone, it is just higly unrealistic, you see this many many times, and it is highly frustrating, and when you try to do any of these skills, the cpu mostlikely steals it away, takes alot alot alot of practice.

OKay- Animations within the game are FABULOUS. The keeper when making a save, look exactly how a keeper should. In fifa, the keepers are doesn't freaking bend enough, and the movement is too fast like lighting. In ISS3, the keeper looks human, you can see the whole motion of him when he is making a save, his arms bend and either performs a catch or a punch, deflection, or misses it,lol.
Another great great part of animations, is the CUTSCENES. FABULOUS.
Near misses are followed by cinematics, cards are incredibly real, Jeff Agoos got one and him and Batigol looked as if they were about to bout it out, faces were pressed up against eachother lookin all pissed off,it was great. Another cinematics presented, is near chances, not shots, but passes, if a through pass is passed down the flank and it is too hard, that the other player is sprinting so bad to get it, there is a replay of it, and a cinematics of the person who passed it, either raising his arm in disgust or putting his head down depending on the time of the game and situation. The last brilliant animation i think...IS THE COACH.
That's right, coaches animation, wow. Depending on what happens, sometimes the coach will show his disgust or even celebrate with the players on the bench, thats' right, it is incredible. Konami has done an incredible job in mixing up the animations and cutscenes to be different than the game before.

Okay, finishing up here. Gameplay is amazing, crosses are realistic, none of this make the player run and if he's ahead of the defender it is most likely a goal ,pshh,none of that, the defender can be despearte and perform a overhead clearance, or the keeper can run out punch the ball away ( there's no watching the ball ****, like fifa, ahhh it feels so good). And oh another thing, winnign headers are fun too, because you are nto told by some stupid lighted up indicator whether or not you won the ball, you find out where the hell the ball goes obviously. And one last thing on my bickering about EA,lol. Free kicks, there is no stupid square in which you have to get the cursor between and if you do its an automatic goal, yahh,right...No way, it is oldschool World Cup 2002 style and Fifa 98 type free kick system, with swerves and ball flight, thats right, you dont knwo what can happen. OKay, ihave one last thign and it is shooting. Tip: do not hold down the shooting button, an easy tap should do the trick, if held down that bal is out the stadium,man. This is the hardest part, shooting is incredibly hard, specially from outside the box, teh directioning is hard to aim for, because it will either go high and wide or low and wide, its hard to tell, i have yet to master it. one thing i do like, is deflections goals. I have done many of these. A header from teh corner, keeper moving one way, and i do a overhead the other way and GOALLLLLLLL. ahh victory. Exactly how i feel about this game.

Just for fun, my ratings...

GRAPHICS- 8.0
GAMEPLAY- 10
LEARNING CURVE- 30min-1hr
REALISM- 9.5
LAYOUT- 7.0

OVERALL- 8.6

tHanks all, i am taking screenshot request, and i am going to put some up later as i get done with my own playing. Take it easy!

peace,
M.L

P.S: Did neone else uninstall FIFA when they played this?hehe...;)

Awesome review i cant wait to gettit. I guess all those other people who have gotten it and sed it was crap was probably comparing it to WE6:FE but i have no PS2 so all i have is Fifa..which was fun for abt a week. THanx Dude

Originally posted by SEPAKBOLA
It is an absolutely incredible game.
At first look neone can tell this game is meant to be for the upper consoles than the PC, I mean all the characteristics are there. Konami have done well though, because this game is near perfect.

If you want highly realistic: Animations, Commentary, Atmosphere, Gameplay, Cut Scenes: this game is for you. Fifa has nothing on ISS3, it blows fifa away in every concept other than graphics, but what is EYE CANDY if you can't EAT it.

Okay, the intro is fabulous, typical perfect intros of Konami soccer. I wont' give it away because it is too breathtaking. Once the intro is done, there are many options. FRIENDLY MATCH-whcih consists of 1st player vs CPU,mor than 1player v.s CPU, or v.s eachother. Also there are multiplayer setups, ICP or LAN. I have yet to try it yet, because I have been too involved in my N.America League. Okay, to the OPTIONS.

I was rather dissapointed of the lack of options. THere is a SETTINGS prompt, but all it allows you to do is -turn off commentary and AUTOSAVE everything you do, whether you want that on or off. There is no sound editing, no graphical editing, no resolution changing, because this game is a definite console game. The great things come down the list though. EDITING-yes, typical Konami again, perfect Player editing and team editing. I will show some screenshots of the Player editing features.

Okay,out of the options. Onto the Leagues and CUPS.
There are 3 or 4, i have to check, but most of them are self explanatory.

OKay, once into the game setup ,meaning when you set up the TIME,difficulty, and controls. I was rather dissapointed of the amount of time that cannot be changed, the options given are rather bare, 2minutes,5minutes and 7minutes.I guess this is to create a rather even gameplay environment ( ea take tips). After getting over that, you move onto the screen of the STANDINGS,SCORE RANKINGS,ASSIST RANKINGS and others.

TEAM setup-
This is highly in depth, i mean highly in depth. from formations, to position editing,to off.positoning, to line editing, to place kickers,captains,(what!? we can change captains, ohhh the brainwashing of FIFA) and more.

THE GAME!

Finally,into the game. The loading screen is just a black screen, at least for mine. There the crowd noise appears and Mr. Champion and the analyst,forgot his name, begin. Mr. Champion talks about exact detail of how many points your team has gotten in the past championships and how many the opponent has,brilliant. Okay, back to the start, the animation begins either in the tunnel or as they are walking out. This animation is brilliant, the body movements,motion capture is astonishing and exact, there are no robotic elements present. As the teams come out, the national anthem is played for both teams of course. Then the heads or tails.

THE GAME FOR REAL! :rockman:

The gameplay is smooth, absolutely magnificent, i'm running on a g4 ti 4200 and love it. I have it on Image Setting on PERFORMANCE, AA on 2x, AF on 8x and REFRESH RATE is on 85.
Okay,back to teh game. Here is a big tip that will save you from getting so many damn cards. DO NOT keep pressing the tackle button ( pass button) when without the ball and when the opponent is facing away from you, DO NOT, you will get a card almost every time, it is safer to hold it down ( like fifa) and strafe and keep switching players. I have one complaint in matters of realism ,only one. SKILL, there is wayyy too much fancy skill you hardly ever see. It's basically like, the cpu performs one, take Ariel Ortega for example. He is one on 3, does one RAINBOW, and gets by everyone, it is just higly unrealistic, you see this many many times, and it is highly frustrating, and when you try to do any of these skills, the cpu mostlikely steals it away, takes alot alot alot of practice.

OKay- Animations within the game are FABULOUS. The keeper when making a save, look exactly how a keeper should. In fifa, the keepers are doesn't freaking bend enough, and the movement is too fast like lighting. In ISS3, the keeper looks human, you can see the whole motion of him when he is making a save, his arms bend and either performs a catch or a punch, deflection, or misses it,lol.
Another great great part of animations, is the CUTSCENES. FABULOUS.
Near misses are followed by cinematics, cards are incredibly real, Jeff Agoos got one and him and Batigol looked as if they were about to bout it out, faces were pressed up against eachother lookin all pissed off,it was great. Another cinematics presented, is near chances, not shots, but passes, if a through pass is passed down the flank and it is too hard, that the other player is sprinting so bad to get it, there is a replay of it, and a cinematics of the person who passed it, either raising his arm in disgust or putting his head down depending on the time of the game and situation. The last brilliant animation i think...IS THE COACH.
That's right, coaches animation, wow. Depending on what happens, sometimes the coach will show his disgust or even celebrate with the players on the bench, thats' right, it is incredible. Konami has done an incredible job in mixing up the animations and cutscenes to be different than the game before.

Okay, finishing up here. Gameplay is amazing, crosses are realistic, none of this make the player run and if he's ahead of the defender it is most likely a goal ,pshh,none of that, the defender can be despearte and perform a overhead clearance, or the keeper can run out punch the ball away ( there's no watching the ball ****, like fifa, ahhh it feels so good). And oh another thing, winnign headers are fun too, because you are nto told by some stupid lighted up indicator whether or not you won the ball, you find out where the hell the ball goes obviously. And one last thing on my bickering about EA,lol. Free kicks, there is no stupid square in which you have to get the cursor between and if you do its an automatic goal, yahh,right...No way, it is oldschool World Cup 2002 style and Fifa 98 type free kick system, with swerves and ball flight, thats right, you dont knwo what can happen. OKay, ihave one last thign and it is shooting. Tip: do not hold down the shooting button, an easy tap should do the trick, if held down that bal is out the stadium,man. This is the hardest part, shooting is incredibly hard, specially from outside the box, teh directioning is hard to aim for, because it will either go high and wide or low and wide, its hard to tell, i have yet to master it. one thing i do like, is deflections goals. I have done many of these. A header from teh corner, keeper moving one way, and i do a overhead the other way and GOALLLLLLLL. ahh victory. Exactly how i feel about this game.

Just for fun, my ratings...

GRAPHICS- 8.0
GAMEPLAY- 10
LEARNING CURVE- 30min-1hr
REALISM- 9.5
LAYOUT- 7.0

OVERALL- 8.6

tHanks all, i am taking screenshot request, and i am going to put some up later as i get done with my own playing. Take it easy!

peace,
M.L

P.S: Did neone else uninstall FIFA when they played this?hehe...;)
Is ISS3 on 1cd

I have ISS 3 for PC also and I quite agree with the review
it's a great game
blows FIFA right out of the water

It comes on 2 cd's

I have the game too and I dont like it at all.
If you shoot the ball at goal, the ball goes so slow. And the passes arent accurate.
You gave gameplay a 10??
This is a bit biased it think. The gameplay isn't perfect at all.
Also the dribbeling is way better in fifa2003. Passig is better in fifa. Ive also seen some scripted pieces in ISS3. And if you tackle the keeper you get a yellow card??

Lets be honest, this game is so cheap. Konami can't always make games this ugly. The graphics are very outdated. Hello its the year 2003!

Iss3 has strong points over fifa and fifa has strong points over iss3
But overall fifa is better.

Well, shots on goal aren't slow at all here.
and, what is scripted?? Haven't noticed a thing so far
The only thing better about fifa are the graphics.

I don't say that the gameplay of it deserves a 10, hell, even WE6fe doesn't deserve 10
Every game has it's flaws.
Want a 10 for gameplay, then I suggest you call some friends, take a ball and play some football for real LOL

I'm not trying to flame or anything, just saying my thoughts


This is a bit off topic, but I sometimes wonder how many peeps here at the forum actually play football in real life??

Just curious that's all

Has anyone tried online play yet? Thats the most interesting bit for me personally

People who got this game, how scripted is the gameplay. Like in fifa 2003 when you cross the ball the recieving defenders will clear the ball the same way, same animation over and over. Did you noticed anything like that in ISS3?

firstly, loved reading the review even though, mostly, i don't agree with you!! :p

secondly, i dont own a console and have never seen the console version so I can only compare this to FIFA2003

i have been playing this game all day (sad i know!) and i would hardly describe it as fabulous!

ok the intro looks nice but no better than FIFA2003 and as far as i'm concerned an intro is worth sh*t as after you've seen it once you usually never want to see it again and would rather jump straight into the game by pressing START!

the lack of options from the main menu in ISS3 is disgraceful IMO. if you are used to EA Sports's slick presentation which always consists of menus for tweaking Video. Audio, and Game Setup you are in for a shock!

as SEPAKBOLA admitted there are only 2 (yes 2!) options you can configure from the main menu and there is no way to remove music or turn down the soundFX or most importantly no way of altering the GFX so you are forced to play at a low resolution!!

there are options to change weather, stadiums, controls etc but they are configured after you select a type of game (i.e. friendly)

what bugged me is that i want most settings on RANDOM (i.e. any Referee, any Stadium, any weather condition) but it won't save my changes so next time i'm in this option screen i have to reset them to my preferences!

the game itself i reckon is a bit poor. ok the FMVs before kick off are quite nice and do build an atmosphere but even the FMV GFX are much poorer than FIFAS cinematics so it looks a bit dated!

in the game the thing that you notice quite frequently is the way the commentary fails to keep up with the action but most of all the way it is badly pieced together i.e. listen to the way John Champion or Mark Lawrenson say the country's name and then make a comment, it is so bad it is funny! I actually remember the N64 version of ISS being exactly the same!!

I also had a problem with the speed of this game and the lack of camera views. the game just seems far too fast. I have knocked it down to speed 2 and it seems more realistic at that but on speed 9 or 10 it looks ridiculous like someone hit fast forward!

the gameplay is ok but not as good as FIFA2003. granted i like the way you can do one-twos (why did EA remove this feature in FIFA!?!) and heading is slightly better that in FIFA as you can control it more but overall it just feels too arcadey!

I found scoring to be slightly more difficult than in FIFA2003 but eventually it got easier. You have about as much control over your where your shot is going to end up as you do in FIFA also - which is not much! and the long pass button is virtually useless!! The setpieces are no better than FIFA in fact the Freekick style in FIFA2003 is much better I would say. Both games need to sort this area out thought IMO as there is more to a setpiece in real life than what you get to play with here! I want to be able to organise my wall how I want it and i want players to make dummy runs or for one player to runover the ball and another one hit it!

Another annoying thing about the GFX in this game is on the players shirts. instead of having the players names it just has 3 letters (i.e. 'ENG' for england) above the number of every player! why didnt they add the players names to their backs? I cant see how it would be a licence problem stopping them seeing as though they have the real players names on the team sheets and mentioned in the commentary!

by the way, I checked out the multiplayer feature today and it is not good!! OK so EAs Internet Matchup is not 100% perfect in FIFA2003 (altho its pretty damn good!) Konami have made the cheapest looking chatroom i ever saw, you have to see it to believe it, its just a webpage where you post your name so you cant really tell if people are online or not ...it sux!!

to be honest i really wanted to like this game as I was really looking forward to seeing a new footy game on the PC but overall I think fans of the recent FIFA series will probably find this game a bit of a joke to be honest, and not really a serious rival. FIFA just seems stronger in every area compared to this and the fact that FIFA games have club teams too puts it far above this game!

Overall, the only thing this game offers that FIFA2003 does not is the ability to navigate menus with your gamepad!! :P

My advice, If you own FIFA2003, dont bother with this, save your cash for FIFA2004 in October! :rockman:

no not as much as fifa scripted. But have you already tried to pass a ball forward when your alone at front. It cant be done, because the cpu automatically select the nearest player too pass too:kader:
So you cant low pass the ball in open space it always goes in the direction of a teammate.

Any other soccer game is better then fifa

how are the freekicks and penalty's in ISS3. And is in ISS3 a foot system(rivaldo is left footed and so on)

Originally posted by CANADIAN.10
Any other soccer game is better then fifa
So true . . .

( Except for graphics of course . . ., but who give a **** about Beck`s earings anyway !!!! )

Originally posted by Hans
So true . . .

( Except for graphics of course . . ., but who give a **** about Beck`s earings anyway !!!! )

Exactly, I play the tower cam anyway, I don't see their faces, boots, ear rings.... in much details.... fifa 2003 is soo scripted, it makes me sick. After I bought WE6i, I got rid of every fifa tool, patch and ofcourse fifa 2003 from my system. Don't wana see it. WE6i plays amazing for me. I mastered fifa less than 2 weeks. In ISS3 you can at least head the ball and I am guessing it is less scripted than fifa 2003 no matter what.

THIS is the kind of review I was waitting for.
Not just short comments that let you wondering about how you came to this world..... LOL
Even if this was a bad review it'd have been nice to read it because it was detailed. I liked this review and I'm :drevil: getting :drevil: it as I speak.
I'll make my own review soon as well, thanks Speakbola and thanks again.

See ya!

BTW, I'd like some screenshots of the Argentinian and Brazil squads, so that I can see how they get some of the faces.
And take some cutscenes screenies.

See ya!

I dunno I posted something similar to that before... but now I'm not so sure.

The dribbling annoys me very much. The faints do not work. R+X usually works, but when I try to do R+Z or R+A the comp takes the ball from me. There is no sudden change in direction - when I press say left the damn player takes like a second to change sides. Annoying.

The whole one-on-one thing is very dumb. Basically you just pick a direction and hold the key... OK, even if it was good, it would have been cooler if they allowed it someplace else from the sideline...

Shooting... For some reason I hit the post too often. Seriously. The keeper often does "Fifa" like saves i.e. saves stuff that doesn't seem saveable.

Free kicks employ the same system as the older fifas except here you can score.

I really hate the fact that the game is a port. Seriously, what the hell? I can't change my keys! WTF?! There is NO game these days that doesn't let you change keys.
A note: You CAN change the keys, but you can only bind the old keys i.e. Q,W,E,A,S,Z or X. You can't use, say, D. Is that a joke?

That brings me to the other problem - since it's a port the game doesn't allow changing the resolution. The engine sucks too. I have Pentium 4 2.4gighz, 1 gig ram and GeForce4 Ti. I can run BF42, Morrowind and Unreal 2 on max details. This PoS though, it lags! When there's a lot of players on the screen the game goes slowwwww. Ugh... I have to play with zoomed camera and lower details...

This game really reminds me of fifa. Maybe it's better, but it deffinitely isn't the thing I am waiting for. What I am waiting for is either a good emulator of PS2 or a good PC soccer game...

i just played it and its better than i thought it might be, obviously its no pes but i think its better than fifa and well be popular for pc people. I dont know any complicated controls yet just the basic ones, and ive got my gamepad working wahoo.

Originally posted by rado907
Shooting... For some reason I hit the post too often. Seriously. The keeper often does "Fifa" like saves i.e. saves stuff that doesn't seem saveable.



yea in my first couple of games i also hit the post very often. very weird. Scripted?:confused:

Originally posted by CANADIAN.10
Any other soccer game is better then fifa

Are you crazy?You have to be Fifa is a fantastic game.All Fifa really needs is gameplay.This game needs alot more.Other video don't come close.Excluding Winning Eleven 6.Which to be honest needs more improvements than Fifa.But it is my favorite footie game on PS2.:D ;)

Until Club Football comes out. :D :D


Wooo!:jambo:

Are they going to release it in na? I would love to give it a shot. After all I only play soccer games, nothing else.....

Fede as soon as you get the game I'll bet you will get the format cracked.I am trying hard but not there yet.Can anyone tell me the folder that contains the faces?:D ;) :confused:


Wooo!:jambo:

Originally posted by andremc11
Are you crazy?You have to be Fifa is a fantastic game.All Fifa really needs is gameplay.This game needs alot more.Other video don't come close.Excluding Winning Eleven 6.Which to be honest needs more improvements than Fifa.But it is my favorite footie game on PS2.:D ;)

Until Club Football comes out. :D :D


Wooo!:jambo:

I don't know what you're trying to say but WE6 has the gameplay and the graphics. FIFA graphics might be a little better (which I don't agree with that) but it is too scripted and boring.

Originally posted by CANADIAN.10
I don't know what you're trying to say but WE6 has the gameplay and the graphics. FIFA graphics might be a little better (which I don't agree with that) but it is too scripted and boring.

I agree with you on the scripted part.But boring........hah...... with all the patches Fifa does not get boring until the latest fifa game comes out.

Wooo!:jambo:

I know most people are buying ISS 3 because they want another footie game for PC besides Fifa.Because Fifa 2003 really disappointed them and because Konami made it,so its gameplay is suppose to be good.:D ;)


Wooo!:jambo:

BTW if anybody mods ISS3 please do something for the controls... For crying out loud the default ones sucks so bad.

Originally posted by andremc11
I agree with you on the scripted part.But boring........hah...... with all the patches Fifa does not get boring until the latest fifa game comes out.

Wooo!:jambo:

What patch are you talking about? Adding new kits, teams, stadiums, beckham's ear ring.......makes the game fun? I tryed about 3 gameplay patches and 3 of them disapointed me....

Originally posted by CANADIAN.10
What patch are you talking about? Adding new kits, teams, stadiums, beckham's ear ring.......makes the game fun? I tryed about 3 gameplay patches and 3 of them disapointed me....

That makes the game fun for me to see all those things I can control at my fingertips.It does not really make the game fun,it just feels good to know they are there.:D ;)


Wooo!:jambo:

Originally posted by rado907
BTW if anybody mods ISS3 please do something for the controls... For crying out loud the default ones sucks so bad.

I don't know if it could be done.:D ;)


Wooo!:jambo:

Originally posted by andremc11
That makes the game fun for me to see all those things I can control at my fingertips.It does not really make the game fun,it just feels good to know they are there.:D ;)


Wooo!:jambo:

Alright I understand, everyone got their own taste... ;)

Exactly what I was trying to say.;) :D


Wooo!:jambo:

Originally posted by rado907
BTW if anybody mods ISS3 please do something for the controls... For crying out loud the default ones sucks so bad.

You can change the controls you know. It aint in options which is rather dumb but it automatically gives you the option to do it beforeyou play a match.

After playing iss3 for a while i think it is in fact crap. The long balls are pathetic as they can only go a certain distance, which is 3/4 of the pitch in length. Shooting is repititive in that the same type of shot is hit all the time. It is also to tell that you are actually aiming the shots and it seems like they go in random directions. The game doesnt seem to flow, and in this respect i think its the same as fifa, and that is why i love PES so much coz it flows. It also seems like every foul is a yellow card. I dont know all the control combinations either so some of the stuff ive just said bout may be hidden somewhere. But at least we know as its on the PC it can be patched if they can be bothered :) (they fkn better be bothered) The only thing going for ISS3 is that its online and i think that most people will prefer fifa to this pile of poo. So for those that aint got it but soon are dont get your hopes up.

My same point.The game is in fact crap.Konami really were sleeping when they made this game.After playing it this morning the game has way too many bugs.Playing it more makes you want to give it the boot.:D ;)

After playing this terrible game on PC let me quote myself from one and a half month ago after having played it on PS2:

Originally posted by Zlatan#9
" immediately horrid, glitchy graphics abound."
"shimmering pitch texture"
"ISS3 brings all that response-lacking inaccuracy"
"it is possible to put some decent passing moves together"

And let me add some other things from my own experience playing this "game":

- All players have equally good technique and dribbling skills, ie Sol Campbell feints/dribbles as good as Bergkamp and Henry, Henchoz as good as Diouf, Keown as good as Ronaldo LOL

- The special moves are SO unrealistic, even more so when all players can do them.

- There's no shot- or crossmeters, just push the crossbutton and it crosses to whatever lenght. Really stupid.

- The referees suck monkeyballs, they book you ALWAYS when the opposing players falls even if you just barely touched him. It doesn't matter what type of ref you choose, all the same.

- AUTOMATIC kickoff. WTF is this lol

- Unrealistic goalies, poor/late reactions.

- You can't have a good floating passing game going on, it's impossible, the gameplay is so jerky, you just can't pass the ball around as you would want to.

- All players are good with both feet. Rivaldo or Roberto Carlos scores goals with their right foot on all goal chances they get wohoo! LOL

- During the cutscenes after you've scored you see Beckham sitting on the bench applauding even though he was on the pitch when the goal was scored.

- Don't get me started on the poor AI, your teammates and the opposition AI.. crazy.. who programmed this lol

- In one game you score at least 5 goals, no matter what difficulty setting is on.

- The shots are way too fast, they're faster than a fighterjet.

- Sometimes there's replays during the games, and I don't mean when the ball's gone dead, I mean during games! Here's what happened to me in a game: I sprint with Kewell on the left flank and whip a cross in to Viduka who heads it in the post, now right when I've hit the post the replays comes on, I'm like hey wtf is going on. So the replay runs on the above mentioned posthit but it's stops without a warning and returns to the game where the rebound of the posthit returns to Viduka but I can't get a shot at it because of a damn replay that was in the freaking way!! THIS IS CRAZY!!


Well, bottomline is that you obviously should NOT get this game!! It's HORRIBLE, just read gathered reviews at gamerankings.com! HOOOORRRRIBLE :f***:

Well, bottomline is that you obviously should NOT get this game!! It's HORRIBLE, just read gathered reviews at gamerankings.com! HOOOORRRRIBLE

Good point.;) :confused:


Wooo!:jambo:

It's not that bad.
It's no PES but it's no FIFA either (thank god)

Originally posted by Anaconda
It's not that bad.
It's no PES but it's no FIFA either (thank god)


You're right its no Fifa or PES it's worse than both.;) :p


Wooo!:jambo:

i stick to my opinion. Sure, iwas biased, but after playing fifa for too long it just felt good to get another PC soccer game and I think this game does flow. Yeah, there are alot of bugs and I dont expect a patch, but these are rather minor in my honest opinion. One more thing, the long passes can be controlled. You can switch teh whole leng of the field, look at your radar when u select a direction and there is a icon (little whitesquare on the radar) that directs to the player u want to pass to.) so there u go. OH and if you want a Beckham type long ball, press the Through Ball button twice, to make it longer and make your player that is going to get it run before it is released, hold down teh button and let go and press again. The shooting, i have yet to hit the post, just tap the shoot button hold on to it for so long. THis game is remarkable in everything but Graphics and Sound, that's my honest opinion, i hope people will be able to patch it and mod it a bit. Fede, I will make screenshots of Bra and Arg now.

peace
m.l

Dribbling in this game is a joke. Seriously, I'm used to seeing my player go up when I press the 'up' arrow. The faints are completely useless except for the 180... Which reminds me of some old fifa where you could go through the whole field doing 180s ;-).
Talking about Fifa here you can tackle the keeper. This is, in fact, the only way to get a red card.
This game is screwed up. I don't know how Konami could make such a piece of crap. For god's sake, I have the PSX ISS2 with epsxe installed on my comp right now and the difference is so huge it's unreal.

I'll prolly delete this crap today or tomorrow...

Originally posted by andremc11
You're right its no Fifa or PES it's worse than both.;) :p


Wooo!:jambo:

then go and play fifa and stop complaying about fifa bugs anymore! if u dont know how to play real soccer then go fishing!!

LOL u are all so funny: FIFA is for kiddies that don't even know how football is like so they want superplayers that can score from everywhere and can dribble half the pitch and score that's just not the deal in ISS, i just tried ISS3 for pc, and yes it's not that good as evolution for ps2 and even for ps1 but still is better than lame fifa!!

Originally posted by cimmerian
LOL u are all so funny: FIFA is for kiddies that don't even know how football is like so they want superplayers that can score from everywhere and can dribble half the pitch and score that's just not the deal in ISS, i just tried ISS3 for pc, and yes it's not that good as evolution for ps2 and even for ps1 but still is better than lame fifa!!

I'm sorry i would like you to play me in Fifa2003 and score from everywhere...you sound like a dude that has never ever touched Fifa2003...yes i am first to admit it has its failings...I used to own PES on PSX2 (so I am not talking from ignorance)...but like PES Fifa2003 also has its faults (be it gameplay faults)...but no way is it as bad as some of you pro Konami/anti EA people make out...I am disappointed ISS3 has turned out to be a turkey, but it seems certain people would still rubbish Fifa2003 even when compared to the most pants game they ever played.

oh yes i'm playing fifa since fifa96 and iss in ps1 since 1999, and yes man i can't score from everywhere but i can dribble a hole team with a player even if he is crappy and i also can't have the freedom that iss gives!

:kader:


God I cant believe how badly this game is being described by some of the lamers in here....whilst not being perfect I think it isnt as bad as what certain people are saying....


I have played Fifa since Fifa97 and it only becomes a good game after you add a few patches ...the original Fifa2003 game looks nothing like the one I have now...

If the patches become available for ISS3 and the few MINOR bugs ironed out then I think it will be a great addition to any footy fans game collection...

Stop this Fifa Vs ISS crap !!!

Originally posted by SEPAKBOLA
It is an absolutely incredible game.
At first look neone can tell this game is meant to be for the upper consoles than the PC, I mean all the characteristics are there. Konami have done well though, because this game is near perfect.

If you want highly realistic: Animations, Commentary, Atmosphere, Gameplay, Cut Scenes: this game is for you. Fifa has nothing on ISS3, it blows fifa away in every concept other than graphics, but what is EYE CANDY if you can't EAT it.

Okay, the intro is fabulous, typical perfect intros of Konami soccer. I wont' give it away because it is too breathtaking. Once the intro is done, there are many options. FRIENDLY MATCH-whcih consists of 1st player vs CPU,mor than 1player v.s CPU, or v.s eachother. Also there are multiplayer setups, ICP or LAN. I have yet to try it yet, because I have been too involved in my N.America League. Okay, to the OPTIONS.

I was rather dissapointed of the lack of options. THere is a SETTINGS prompt, but all it allows you to do is -turn off commentary and AUTOSAVE everything you do, whether you want that on or off. There is no sound editing, no graphical editing, no resolution changing, because this game is a definite console game. The great things come down the list though. EDITING-yes, typical Konami again, perfect Player editing and team editing. I will show some screenshots of the Player editing features.

Okay,out of the options. Onto the Leagues and CUPS.
There are 3 or 4, i have to check, but most of them are self explanatory.

OKay, once into the game setup ,meaning when you set up the TIME,difficulty, and controls. I was rather dissapointed of the amount of time that cannot be changed, the options given are rather bare, 2minutes,5minutes and 7minutes.I guess this is to create a rather even gameplay environment ( ea take tips). After getting over that, you move onto the screen of the STANDINGS,SCORE RANKINGS,ASSIST RANKINGS and others.

TEAM setup-
This is highly in depth, i mean highly in depth. from formations, to position editing,to off.positoning, to line editing, to place kickers,captains,(what!? we can change captains, ohhh the brainwashing of FIFA) and more.

THE GAME!

Finally,into the game. The loading screen is just a black screen, at least for mine. There the crowd noise appears and Mr. Champion and the analyst,forgot his name, begin. Mr. Champion talks about exact detail of how many points your team has gotten in the past championships and how many the opponent has,brilliant. Okay, back to the start, the animation begins either in the tunnel or as they are walking out. This animation is brilliant, the body movements,motion capture is astonishing and exact, there are no robotic elements present. As the teams come out, the national anthem is played for both teams of course. Then the heads or tails.

THE GAME FOR REAL! :rockman:

The gameplay is smooth, absolutely magnificent, i'm running on a g4 ti 4200 and love it. I have it on Image Setting on PERFORMANCE, AA on 2x, AF on 8x and REFRESH RATE is on 85.
Okay,back to teh game. Here is a big tip that will save you from getting so many damn cards. DO NOT keep pressing the tackle button ( pass button) when without the ball and when the opponent is facing away from you, DO NOT, you will get a card almost every time, it is safer to hold it down ( like fifa) and strafe and keep switching players. I have one complaint in matters of realism ,only one. SKILL, there is wayyy too much fancy skill you hardly ever see. It's basically like, the cpu performs one, take Ariel Ortega for example. He is one on 3, does one RAINBOW, and gets by everyone, it is just higly unrealistic, you see this many many times, and it is highly frustrating, and when you try to do any of these skills, the cpu mostlikely steals it away, takes alot alot alot of practice.

OKay- Animations within the game are FABULOUS. The keeper when making a save, look exactly how a keeper should. In fifa, the keepers are doesn't freaking bend enough, and the movement is too fast like lighting. In ISS3, the keeper looks human, you can see the whole motion of him when he is making a save, his arms bend and either performs a catch or a punch, deflection, or misses it,lol.
Another great great part of animations, is the CUTSCENES. FABULOUS.
Near misses are followed by cinematics, cards are incredibly real, Jeff Agoos got one and him and Batigol looked as if they were about to bout it out, faces were pressed up against eachother lookin all pissed off,it was great. Another cinematics presented, is near chances, not shots, but passes, if a through pass is passed down the flank and it is too hard, that the other player is sprinting so bad to get it, there is a replay of it, and a cinematics of the person who passed it, either raising his arm in disgust or putting his head down depending on the time of the game and situation. The last brilliant animation i think...IS THE COACH.
That's right, coaches animation, wow. Depending on what happens, sometimes the coach will show his disgust or even celebrate with the players on the bench, thats' right, it is incredible. Konami has done an incredible job in mixing up the animations and cutscenes to be different than the game before.

Okay, finishing up here. Gameplay is amazing, crosses are realistic, none of this make the player run and if he's ahead of the defender it is most likely a goal ,pshh,none of that, the defender can be despearte and perform a overhead clearance, or the keeper can run out punch the ball away ( there's no watching the ball ****, like fifa, ahhh it feels so good). And oh another thing, winnign headers are fun too, because you are nto told by some stupid lighted up indicator whether or not you won the ball, you find out where the hell the ball goes obviously. And one last thing on my bickering about EA,lol. Free kicks, there is no stupid square in which you have to get the cursor between and if you do its an automatic goal, yahh,right...No way, it is oldschool World Cup 2002 style and Fifa 98 type free kick system, with swerves and ball flight, thats right, you dont knwo what can happen. OKay, ihave one last thign and it is shooting. Tip: do not hold down the shooting button, an easy tap should do the trick, if held down that bal is out the stadium,man. This is the hardest part, shooting is incredibly hard, specially from outside the box, teh directioning is hard to aim for, because it will either go high and wide or low and wide, its hard to tell, i have yet to master it. one thing i do like, is deflections goals. I have done many of these. A header from teh corner, keeper moving one way, and i do a overhead the other way and GOALLLLLLLL. ahh victory. Exactly how i feel about this game.

Just for fun, my ratings...

GRAPHICS- 8.0
GAMEPLAY- 10
LEARNING CURVE- 30min-1hr
REALISM- 9.5
LAYOUT- 7.0

OVERALL- 8.6

tHanks all, i am taking screenshot request, and i am going to put some up later as i get done with my own playing. Take it easy!

peace,
M.L

P.S: Did neone else uninstall FIFA when they played this?hehe...;) Agree totally

ISS3 is a great game.

yes Iss 3 is nearly the best soccer game.
I hope it will be realese a patch forchange resolution by Konami.....
but its only hope :)