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Paco de Lucia
29-05-2003, 10:14:PM
What is the chance that codemasters' new Club Football Series will give WE6 a run for its money?

It's hard to imagine it'll even come close, but it's still a bold concept (and nicely designed to part fans with more of their money to boot): a footy game for 17 individual European clubs.

Paco

OzzeG
30-05-2003, 12:45:AM
yeh it looks and sounds good, but it all depends on the gameplay. Like fifa its gonna have a much better database with official stuff but hopefully unlike fifa the gameplay will be reasonable at least.

culo
30-05-2003, 01:33:AM
sounds like a really stupid idea to me

i mean, a footy fan is gonna buy a great footy game like WE6 but a Celtic fan is not gonna buy a footy game about Rangers :rolleyes:

just a gimmick which will backfire

andremc11
30-05-2003, 01:44:AM
Originally posted by Paco de Lucia
What is the chance that codemasters' new Club Football Series will give WE6 a run for its money?

It's hard to imagine it'll even come close, but it's still a bold concept (and nicely designed to part fans with more of their money to boot): a footy game for 17 individual European clubs.

Paco

I think it will give Winning Eleven a run for its money.It has modelled its gameplay after Winning Eleven afterall.With those graphics-faces,kits,stadium.....etc.It will definetly give Winning Eleven arun for its money.I think it will be better though.I will definetly buy it if it gets great reviews.Even if it does'nt I will still buy it.I bought ISS 3.:rolleyes:

andremc11
30-05-2003, 01:54:AM
Originally posted by OzzeG
yeh it looks and sounds good, but it all depends on the gameplay. Like fifa its gonna have a much better database with official stuff but hopefully unlike fifa the gameplay will be reasonable at least.


Yea it has amazing visuals.The kits,faces,stadiums look great.I can't wait for this game.I will definetly be buying this game.It has good previews so far from Gamespot and IGN.They said the gameplay closely mimics that of the sublime Winning Eleven series.:D

iceboy
30-05-2003, 01:55:AM
Like danny said, It's really stupid to feature a few clubs and not have a generic version of club football. However, It looks pretty good, and better if it has We6 gameplay.

Last time someone posted a maldini that looks gayish in a screenshot but he looks exactly like that when i saw him in my local newspaper before the Champions league finals!

The problem is, by the time Club football, with WE6 gameplay, is released, we already will have WE7, which i believe will have the best gameplay ever.

andremc11
30-05-2003, 01:58:AM
Originally posted by culo
sounds like a really stupid idea to me

i mean, a footy fan is gonna buy a great footy game like WE6 but a Celtic fan is not gonna buy a footy game about Rangers :rolleyes:

just a gimmick which will backfire

To be honest I am not to fond of the idea either but I ain't choking it.I want to be able to play domestic league with any team I want.Not only with the specific team.I think the price should be reduced because of this.:rolleyes:I would definetly like Codemasters to release a Final Version in which you are able to play with any team you want.:D ;)

andremc11
30-05-2003, 02:08:AM
Originally posted by iceboy
Like danny said, It's really stupid to feature a few clubs and not have a generic version of club football. However, It looks pretty good, and better if it has We6 gameplay.

Last time someone posted a maldini that looks gayish in a screenshot but he looks exactly like that when i saw him in my local newspaper before the Champions league finals!

The problem is, by the time Club football, with WE6 gameplay, is released, we already will have WE7, which i believe will have the best gameplay ever.

I don't like the specific club feature either.I think that feature is mainly for hardcore club fans.:rolleyes:

Yes the visuals are impressive.Way better than Winning Eleven's.I think they are more on the verge of looking like Fifa's.The visuals look like they are better than Winning Eleven 7 also.Especially the faces,stadiums,crowds and kits.Not the body,Konami's bodies this year look superb.Konami are yet to move away from those plastic looking face textures.


Not neccesarily WE6 gameplay.It will have some WE6's gameplay as well as some of it own.So it might still be able to beat the Winning Eleven series.;) :(

jumbo
30-05-2003, 02:16:AM
comon ppl... Club what?

"gameplay modeled after WE"

sounds like EA...

anyways, who's gon care about WE6 wanna-be when WE7 is out?

?????????

WAKE UP! 7 UP!

The Warrior
30-05-2003, 02:24:PM
Yes guys....Club football will be surely better than WE7!!! 17 teams-buy your version
all the players 3d modeled
all the stadiums 3d modeled
chants recorded live
every style of players is in the game(motion capture)
250 teams to choose(+17)
variations of moves
TV style cinematics
Many cameras
and other.....We will see in Octomber!!!

WE7 will be the same as WE6FE...
:rockman:

The Warrior
30-05-2003, 02:38:PM
Earlier today we paid a visit to the invitation-only area of Codemasters' E3 booth to check out Club Football on the PlayStation 2 and Xbox. The game, as we've reported previously, is unusual in that 17 different club-themed versions will be available for each platform when the game ships in Europe this October. For the purposes of E3, Codemasters is showing Manchester United Club Football on the PS2 and Arsenal Club Football on the Xbox.

The first thing that struck us about both versions of the game is that, considering the fact that there's still five months of development time left, the game looks surprisingly polished. All the players from the teams that have been licensed for their own official versions of the game looked as realistic as those in a FIFA game, and the game's stadiums and presentation were also nearing the quality you'd usually expect of an EA Sports game. The similarities with FIFA pretty much end there, though, and Codemasters isn't embarrassed to admit that as far as gameplay is concerned, it's doing its best to emulate the formula of Konami's sublime Winning Eleven 6 (Pro Evolution Soccer 2 in Europe).

As fans of the Winning Eleven series, we were able to pick up and play Club Football without any instruction from the Codemasters representative we were going up against. Even Konami's system for automatically having defenders chase after the ball with a single button press was in place, and actually the only area of the gameplay in which the development team has gone with an entirely different system from that used by Konami is in the taking of free kicks. In Club Football, you'll basically get to choose a point at which you want to strike the ball, rather than using any arrows or such devices, and although it's sure to take some getting used to, the system appeared to work pretty well.

Club Football's biggest unique selling point is that if you're a fan of, for example, Manchester United, you'll be able to create a version of yourself in the game's editor and step out onto the pitch at Old Trafford alongside highly realistic models of your favorite players. When creating our character, we were amused to see that it's possible to create a player who'll look wholly out of place next to the athletic real-life players, so even if you have a belly that overhangs your shorts, there's a good chance you'll be able to create a player who actually resembles you physically.

If you're playing the Manchester United version of the game, you can also look forward to reading about the club's history, checking out player profiles, and unlocking movies showing some of the club's most significant goals in history. So, if you're a fan of one of the 17 club teams that will have its own version of Club Football, there are plenty of reasons why you might consider buying it--even as an alternative to a Winning Eleven game. If you're not a supporter of one of the 17 clubs, however, the same features that appeal to fans of the clubs will most likely put you off buying the game completely.

Club Football is currently scheduled for release in Europe in October, and although no North American release has been confirmed at this time, we're assured that trans-Atlantic crossings for at least the most popular club editions of the game are still under consideration. For more information on Club Football check out our previous coverage of the game.

By Justin Calvert, GameSpot

CANADIAN.10
30-05-2003, 08:37:PM
This will sound stupid but is this game coming to north america?

valioso
30-05-2003, 08:40:PM
i dont think so

Paco de Lucia
30-05-2003, 08:41:PM
Word from Codemasters is that there are no plans to release in US as of now.

CANADIAN.10
30-05-2003, 09:04:PM
Originally posted by Paco de Lucia
Word from Codemasters is that there are no plans to release in US as of now.

Okeeeeyyy than, how will they compete with Konami or EA if it is not global? :confused: I wouldn't care much or less about this game and so as most north americans who does not have a modded PL2.. How stupid can they get, pisses me off

culo
30-05-2003, 09:13:PM
Originally posted by The Warrior
"As fans of the Winning Eleven series, we were able to pick up and play Club Football without any instruction from the Codemasters representative we were going up against. Even Konami's system for automatically having defenders chase after the ball with a single button press was in place, and actually the only area of the gameplay in which the development team has gone with an entirely different system from that used by Konami is in the taking of free kicks. In Club Football, you'll basically get to choose a point at which you want to strike the ball, rather than using any arrows or such devices, and although it's sure to take some getting used to, the system appeared to work pretty well. " Gamespot

I can't help but feel that Codemasters have not had anywhere enough time to develop a gameplay engine as complex and sophisticated as that of WE6/PES2, particularly as, to the best of my knowledge, they don't have any background in footy action games or experience in this genre on which to draw.

Sure, the basic controls may be very similar to WE6 but there is far more going on under the hood than mere responses to button pressing. The tactical depth and huge complexity of the players attributes are what make WE6 so compelling and realistic and Codemasters will have achieved something astonishing if they can come close to matching it in their first attempt at a football action game.

Personally, I'll believe it only when I see it. And anyway, matching it is not really good enough - they need to surpass it and I think that will take a miracle.

It would also be interesting to see Codemasters response to the obvious jibe that the game will only appeal to fans of the club sides involved - that's an awful lot of potential buyers that they are happily turning their back on.