This thread it's about the transfers of the players in the Portuguese Superliga. At this moment we have the following transfers:

FC PORTO:

Bosingwa (from Boavista)
Capucho(to Rangers)
Ricardo Silva (to Boavista)
Ricardo Sousa (to Boavista)

SL BENFICA:

Alex (from Moreirense)
Ronald Garcia (from Alverca)

If someone knows more transfers please post them.

Is Capucho move to Rangers official then? It's not on the Rangers official site yet...:confused:

SPORTING CP
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Staff

[coach] Fernando Santos (from AEK)
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Players

[forward] Nikolaidis (from AEK)
[defender] Stephen Cladwell (from Newcastle)
[defender] Carlos Gamarra (negotiations with Inter)
[defender] César Prates (to Galatasaray)

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everything for now...

Caldwell just signed a new contract with the Magpies for another 12 months. At least until June 30 2004 he won't be off St. James' Park.

Jardel may be off to Santos or Palmeiras.

João Pedro surprisingly snubbed Braga to sign for last year's sensation Leixões. The contract is until 2006.

Pedro Moita signed for Paços Ferreira for two years. One of the best players in the Portuguese Third Division last season. I'm paying special attention to this young lad...

Pedro Mendes is on the verge of leaving Guimarães to play for champions FC Porto. Negotiations are about to be completed. Few details left.

Since Pedro Moita declined the offer from Sporting CP because i didn't want to play in Sporting B I just say one thing:

He think he is much important... so i think he will not to be a good player...

I read Celta is going to sell McCarthy to Oporto

Originally posted by ricardo
I read Celta is going to sell McCarthy to Oporto

I heard rumours about that too and i expect that becomes a reality cause McCarthy it's a fantastic player. Celta's coach must be blind or don't understand nothing about football putting him on the bench.

Originally posted by Vazza
Is Capucho move to Rangers official then? It's not on the Rangers official site yet...:confused:

It's official, the newspapers in Portugal showed images from Capucho with Rangers shirt. Capucho have signed a two years contract with Rangers.

Originally posted by feliycora
Since Pedro Moita declined the offer from Sporting CP because i didn't want to play in Sporting B I just say one thing:

He think he is much important... so i think he will not to be a good player...

No one wants to play in the Portuguese Second Division B.

It's a very very phisychal competition, where technique doesn't matter.

Why do you think Carlos Martins was sent off twice in 4 weeks while playing for Sporting B?!

Why do you think B team players are sent off very early and very regulary?!

Young players want to develop and play football, not play somekind of rugby or whatever! They prefer being loaned out than playing for the B squad.

Cristiano from Benfica will play for SC Braga
Cabral should follow him is 99% sure.

Ricardo will most likely be with us next year (H)

Looks like Porto and Boavista are again making the wisest signings so far...Bosingwa and Ricardo Sousa are great aquisitions!

I'm looking forward to seeing Alex play for Benfica next year, but will he get much playing time when Nuno Gomes and Mantorras (the REAL star of Benfica!) are healthy again???

I'm starting to lose a little faith in Camacho also...he hasn't officially renewed his contract with Benfica yet and he's already making some dumb decisions! Like putting Ednilson on the transfer block!? Yet, he wants Bossio (worst keeper ev-er!) to extend his contract! :rolleyes:

But all the players in Sporting B have the possibility to be promoted to A team... thats the point! he is a young player... it's place was in B team, for show his talent, then he would be promoted.... but he only want fame... ****ty player!

It's not possible to show your talent/skills if you're playing rugby-like football...

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Ricardo, a wonderful signing it would be. And a good decision to LOAN OUT Moreira, for him to not stop his developing. Ricardo will be sold in a few years time, and then Moreira will show up again, more mature and experienced, and take Benfica's goal place.

And I agree with shinji: Bossio staying?! Ednilson out?! Bad decisions by Camacho.

But I'm sure Ednilson will fight to get his place back in the squad by December. He's the kind of player everyone would want at their roster.

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Cabral, Ednilson and Fehér maybe heading towards Beira-Mar on loan for the season. Current president and candidate Mano Nunes is trying to be re-elected, and to beat his opponent (who has already deals to sign Guimarães keeper Palatsi and Betis forward João Tomás), he's trying to sign some players to rival.

I know, I couldn't beleive it when I read that about Ednilson! This is starting to remind me of other great talents we've let go over the years (Deco, Maniche, etc...)

....don't be too surprised to see Ednilson wearing Blue & White in the next year or two! :rolleyes:

I still think Benfica will make at least one really big signing for next season...not necissarily Rui Costa, but maybe Pauleta? And if Camacho stays, I have a feeling we might get one or two Real Madrid cast-offs (please let it be McManaman!!!! hehe :D )

Originally posted by ::shinji::
I know, I couldn't beleive it when I read that about Ednilson! This is starting to remind me of other great talents we've let go over the years (Deco, Maniche, etc...)

....don't be too surprised to see Ednilson wearing Blue & White in the next year or two! :rolleyes:

I still think Benfica will make at least one really big signing for next season...not necissarily Rui Costa, but maybe Pauleta? And if Camacho stays, I have a feeling we might get one or two Real Madrid cast-offs (please let it be McManaman!!!! hehe :D )

I like Ednilson, hope Benfica throw him away like DECO, maybe FC PORTO can pick him. :D Camacho will not stay maybe Pacheco, about Pauleta keep dreeming... you Lamps are always dreaming... save your money cause it's not that much. :D

Mario Sergio is coming to sporting...that's oficial too.

he is a right back,U-21 international

with him and Miguel Garcia(currently in toulon) Sporting problems in the right side of the defense are over

nikolaidis is already a free player...i hope he come to sporting too

as you may have noticed...him a sporting suporter...but today i'm starting to worry about benfica....come on....in 15 days they're back to work and they're still without a manager???

i should be smiling for that...but they're gonna play in the 3rd qualifying round of the CL:kader:

if things stay like that benfica will be humiliated by some top european club

by the way...porto have only one option for the right wing position (marco Ferreira)

who will porto buy to join him?

Porto has marco ferreira, candido costa as right wingers, and derlei, bosingwa, paulo ferreira and Manuel Jose can be RW too...did i miss someone? :confused:

btw, i hope Paredes wont join Sporting because he's my favourite player in the world and im still annoyed with porto because they let him go:f***: and for such a low price...

The Paredes affair was a funny one.

Pinto da Costa was all cocky because he had rejected a 15 million euro offer from Barcelona to buy the Paraguayan, but ended up selling him to Reggina for 4,8 million.

But we can't deny that Paredes is an excellent player...

regina wont loan paredes to sporting and sporting do not have enought money to buy him.....he's an excelent defensive midfielder but i just don't see him play in portugal in the next season

Ronaldo may go to Liverpool while Quaresma is likely to move to Man U if they can't secure Ronaldinho.

Jose Antonio Camacho stays in Benfica :D

Yep, it's confirmed. Camacho stays with Benfica.

No details have been announced, yet.

After that "Rui Costa intention" rumour (that Spanish paper Marca released), what may happen next?

Ricardo, we can take him 60% for granted.

Junior, won't come almost for sure. His agent say he won't, although he says he would like the idea.

Polga, is a possibility amongst others.

Rui Costa, the eternal dream. A miracle (aKa help from Adidas) could bring him

Originally posted by ::shinji::
I know, I couldn't beleive it when I read that about Ednilson! This is starting to remind me of other great talents we've let go over the years (Deco, Maniche, etc...)

....don't be too surprised to see Ednilson wearing Blue & White in the next year or two! :rolleyes:

I still think Benfica will make at least one really big signing for next season...not necissarily Rui Costa, but maybe Pauleta? And if Camacho stays, I have a feeling we might get one or two Real Madrid cast-offs (please let it be McManaman!!!! hehe :D )

And where will Benfica get the money to pay his wage??????

Rui Costa have said 32543254365 times that the wage isn´t a problem to his return

Originally posted by Punkt
Rui Costa have said 32543254365 times that the wage isn´t a problem to his return


I think you're mystaken he said only 32543254363:crazyboy: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Punkt
Rui Costa have said 32543254365 times that the wage isn´t a problem to his return

The biggest financial effort would be the transfer. And to convince AC Milan to sell one of its greatest players, if not the greatest.

Looking dark already? And we didn't even talked about numbers...

1. According to Marca, Milan would want 12 Mill Euros. Too cheap, Berlusconi is crazy enough to push it to 20/25 Mill.

2. His wage is one of the highest in AC Milan's wage bill. It's said to be around 350.000 €/month. And it's impossible he would drop more than 50% of his current salary to come to Benfica. His hearth is big, but not that big...

3. The shirt number 10, is still Zahovic's. And Camacho doesn't have any plan to sell him. A bust-up because of a number between those two?!

4. Paying around 150.000 €/month to a substitute (which Zahovic would be) is suicide in the current market conjuncture.

Adidas may help, but they won't work out miracles.

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Looks like Porto and Boavista are again making the wisest signings so far...Bosingwa and Ricardo Sousa are great aquisitions!

I'm looking forward to seeing Alex play for Benfica next year, but will he get much playing time when Nuno Gomes and Mantorras (the REAL star of Benfica!) are healthy again???

I'm starting to lose a little faith in Camacho also...he hasn't officially renewed his contract with Benfica yet and he's already making some dumb decisions! Like putting Ednilson on the transfer block!? Yet, he wants Bossio (worst keeper ev-er!) to extend his contract! :rolleyes: Saying Porto and Boavista making the wisest signings means nothing. The transfer window hasen't even opened yet.

Camacho has now renewed, and I have total faith in him. I think this Ednilson thing is just to get the kid going. It's what he did with Armando and Fehér. He said that they may be traded then they both started playing good, besides loaning out Ednilson maybe good for a season or so. There is no way in hell that he'll break into the starting 11 with Tiago and Petit there.

Originally posted by calve11
[B]Saying Porto and Boavista making the wisest signings means nothing.

I know, that's why I said "so far"


Camacho has now renewed, and I have total faith in him. I think this Ednilson thing is just to get the kid going. It's what he did with Armando and Fehér. He said that they may be traded then they both started playing good, besides loaning out Ednilson maybe good for a season or so. There is no way in hell that he'll break into the starting 11 with Tiago and Petit there.

Camacho isn't planning on loaning Ednilson, he's going to be released...just like Armando and Feher (who according to you started playing well, even though I've never seen it). Feher might as well be a Beira Mar player already and there's already been serious talk of Armando and Ednilson going to Braga, not on loan either..

Tiago won't stay at Benfica I guarentee it, too many big Italian clubs interested in him. Yes, Ednilson would have a lot of competition at Benfica, but so will Alex with Sokota, Nuno Gomes, and Mantorras there, but we still bought him..

Beira-Mar's new president wants to bring Ednilson, Cabral, and Feher all to the club as loans.

why would Benfica want to loan Cabral? he sucks and he's old...

Fehér went out with a bang and that hat-trick will keep him without being sold for another season. Armando did well, he plays like Miguel but is obviously not as good as him, but still he's good off the bench. And yes recently, like H45V said, Cabral, Ednilson and Fehér will most likely be loaned out to Beira-Mar.

BTW, Alex is a winger...

i think ednilson is a good sub for petit/tiago i don't why camacho doens't want him

by the way...probably ricardo is on his way to benfica...and i've heard moreira is not entering the deal with boavista...wich means he will be a substitute next season...or seasons

that's terrible for a young player like moreira...at his age he needs regular first team football to develop himself

if ricardo is really coming to benfica i think they should seriously consider on loan moreira

Glad to hear that Camacho stays cause perhaps he couls throw away Roger and Ednilson and send Moreira to the bench, all good things for FCP. Btw hope if Roger and Ednilson comes out of Benfica can go to FC PORTO like Maniche and DECO. :P

Roger on the bench:crazyboy: biggest joke in football history, so typical in Benfica(H)

btw, Armando and Paulo Madeira were the worse players ive seen playing for benfica Paulo Madeira:kader: EVERY armando cross goes to the public, i dont know how he managed to be in Benfica:rolleyes:

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Glad to hear that Camacho stays cause perhaps he couls throw away Roger and Ednilson and send Moreira to the bench, all good things for FCP. Btw hope if Roger and Ednilson comes out of Benfica can go to FC PORTO like Maniche and DECO. :P Don't kid yourself fanboy. Benfica and Camacho are going to have a good run at the title next year, and you know it.

Originally posted by calve11
Don't kid yourself fanboy. Benfica and Camacho are going to have a good run at the title next year, and you know it.

They're gonna fight for the title just like the last year... :p What i know is that our team is much more stronger than Benfica, and if we buy Benni McCarthy and keep Deco and Postiga, Porto will win the title again without any chance... ;)

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Tiago won't stay at Benfica I guarentee it, too many big Italian clubs interested in him. Wow, that's a pretty ignorant guarantee :rolleyes:

Simão e Tiago seguros

A garantia de permanência de duas das jóias portuguesas do Benfica, Simão e Tiago, parece ter sido um passo fundamental para a renovação de José António Camacho. Seria essa uma das exigências do técnico espanhol? Pelas palavras do treinador, ontem, manhã bem cedo, quando deixava finalmente La Toja, parece óbvio que sim... «Os jogadores portugueses não saem. Isso é seguro!». A convicção deixa poucas dúvidas...



Mouta:
Uh oh big bad Benni McCarthy, oh I'm so scared! Nuno Gomes and Mantorras are both better than him. If Roger stays/gets back in form he's almost as good as Deco. Also with Ricardo (one of Europe's best goalkeepers right now) and Junior almost here, our team could very much win the title. Porto had a Cinderella-like season which will not repeat itself. You guys will not have another 86 point season, trust me.

Pintinho, go fetch Ednilson! GO! GO! GO! GO! :mrpimp:
It seriously gets too easy to bring in quality players for free with Benfica around. :evil:

Nuno gomes and mantorras beter than McCarthy?

how many goals did McCarthy scored in a few games for porto last season?
and how many did Nuno scored this season?

i think it's stupid if roger and ednilson get out,who will be the subs for zahovic and petit/tiago?
andrade?:crazyboy:

Originally posted by calve11
Wow, that's a pretty ignorant guarantee :rolleyes:

Simão e Tiago seguros

A garantia de permanência de duas das jóias portuguesas do Benfica, Simão e Tiago, parece ter sido um passo fundamental para a renovação de José António Camacho. Seria essa uma das exigências do técnico espanhol? Pelas palavras do treinador, ontem, manhã bem cedo, quando deixava finalmente La Toja, parece óbvio que sim... «Os jogadores portugueses não saem. Isso é seguro!». A convicção deixa poucas dúvidas...



Mouta:
Uh oh big bad Benni McCarthy, oh I'm so scared! Nuno Gomes and Mantorras are both better than him. If Roger stays/gets back in form he's almost as good as Deco. Also with Ricardo (one of Europe's best goalkeepers right now) and Junior almost here, our team could very much win the title. Porto had a Cinderella-like season which will not repeat itself. You guys will not have another 86 point season, trust me.

You Lamps keep dreaming... McCarthy scored 12 goals in 11 games more than Mantorras and Nuno Gomes in a whole season. Btw hope Roger don't stays but DECO it's much better than him. Considering your words i think we can expect a DREAM TEAM v. 3.0 by Benfica like in the last years. :D

I dont know if Deco is better than Roger, but im sure Nuno Gomes is 10 times worse than Benni, u must really be a fanatic to say Gomes is better than McCarthy...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by calve11

Mouta:
Uh oh big bad Benni McCarthy, oh I'm so scared! Nuno Gomes and Mantorras are both better than him. If Roger stays/gets back in form he's almost as good as Deco. Also with Ricardo (one of Europe's best goalkeepers right now) and Junior almost here, our team could very much win the title. Porto had a Cinderella-like season which will not repeat itself. You guys will not have another 86 point season, trust me. [/B]

this statements are so typical amoung benfica fans...they really know about football :evil:

only in the Never land Nuno Gomes can be better than McCarthy, and Roger...it's his life dream to have 1/4 of Deco's quality.

Nuno is an overall better player than McCarthy, I'm not talking just about goals. NG is an awesome team player and sets up lots of goals, Nuno's passing and teamwork is far more superior than McCarthy's. You Portistas are still nagging him on how bad he was through most of the season, but did you guys see him before he was injured? He restored his form and was probably our most valuable player the last part of the season.

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
They're gonna fight for the title just like the last year... :p What i know is that our team is much more stronger than Benfica, and if we buy Benni McCarthy and keep Deco and Postiga, Porto will win the title again without any chance... ;)

The last time somebody said something like that Sporting ends in the first place...every year Sporting isn't in the 1st line to win championship, they managed to win the League:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: ...so, keep strugling each other and Sporting will be the best in the end:mrpimp: :mrpimp:

Sporting could have a shot if they keep Carlos Martins, Quaresma, Ronaldo and maybe if Niculae could stay healthy (which I doubt). However I don't think Fernando Santos is much of a coach.

Fernando in 1 month has done more smart moves than Boloni in 2 years on the transfer market.

just heard in Sic Noticias that Helder Postiga can be on his way to Totenham...they said that he's already in London for medical examination :( :(

hélder postiga linked to spurs, thats not a big deal, b/c everybody under the damn sun has been linked to them. hell, even i might have been linked to them in a previous life. as for y'all saying (benfica/sporting/fcp) will win the title, im gonna stay out of that debate until theres about a week or two to go before the season starts.

I actually believe this one. FCP were listening to offers for Postiga around the E14M. Totenham offered E12M and as far as I know FCP have accepted it.

I only hope we keep OUR players!

Tottenham officialy confirmed negotiations with FC Porto over the transfer of Hélder Postiga. The fee is said to be around €12M.

It's said there is a deal in principle.

So, big Benni McCarthy is back at FCP. Great player, in deed.

And don't compare him with Nuno. They are different in many ways.

Originally posted by CarlosAlex
I only hope we keep OUR players! We will :)

Also McCarthy is good, but I think FCP would have been better off with Postiga...

Originally posted by calve11
We will :)

Also McCarthy is good, but I think FCP would have been better off with Postiga...

Postiga will be a great player but now McCarthy it's more efficient, he scored 12 goals in 11 games and Postiga only 13 in the whole Season.

i just hope postiga to get a regular first team place....he will be one of our strikers for the euro2004 an if he will be as a sub for the entire season its very bad

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Postiga will be a great player but now McCarthy it's more efficient, he scored 12 goals in 11 games and Postiga only 13 in the whole Season.

mccarthy better than postiga?
my godness... :crazyboy:

Originally posted by Punkt
mccarthy better than postiga?
my godness... :crazyboy:

Like i said before Postiga it's a great player, no doubt of that, but he still have to progress in some aspects like the finishing and the heads. McCarthy is a player that have more experience and score much more goals, that's why i say that's better than Postiga, probably in a few years Postiga it's better but in this moment i really prefer McCarthy...;)

You honestly prefer McCarthy over Postiga? :confused: :|

Originally posted by calve11
You honestly prefer McCarthy over Postiga? :confused: :|

Surelly, McCarthy is more efficient, Postiga is too young he missed a lot of goals he could have been the best striker of Superliga.

More news about Sérgio Conceição.

In MaisFutebol:

Done agreement has one month
F.C. Porto: Sergio Conceição is per 2 years

The agreement between the F.C. Porto and the Inter Milan for the transference of Sergio Conceição is made has about one month.

The commitment still depends on a rightness of mounts of money between the Portuguese International and the Inter, but, in accordance with what Maisfutebol selected, the commitment will be per two seasons. Exactamente the contract time that Sergio Conceição has to fulfill.

The transference has been mediated for the entrepreneur Pablo Barbosa, mandatado for the effect for the Italian club. D'Onofrio Luciano is now to try to unblock what it lacks, the rightness between Sergio Conceição and the Inter.

It equips it of Milan is responsible on the part substantial of the commanded ones of Sergio Conceição. In exchange, the F.C. Porto goes to yield half of the porting rights of a young player of the club, probably Bruno Alves, one central office.

The subject could be definitively closed in the next days.

I'd love to see more players like Conceição and Rui Costa return to Portugal...it's such a huge step to improving to overall image and quality of the league. Soon we're gonna have some of the most state of the art stadia in Europe, it would be great to have great players to play in them :D

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Postiga will be a great player but now McCarthy it's more efficient, he scored 12 goals in 11 games and Postiga only 13 in the whole Season.

Pena had 11 great games as well, and then... :(

we should have kept Postiga for at least one more year! :kader:

If Sérgio Conceição and Rui Costa were back in Portugal, we would be even more seen from outside.

Even if Conceição going to Porto is more realistic than Rui Costa going to Benfica, it's already a great step, bringing our successful players back home.

And they're not old enough for us to say "they're just here to get some bucks before retiring!". Both have prooven the opposite.

Originally posted by bmpv666
Pena had 11 great games as well, and then... :(

we should have kept Postiga for at least one more year! :kader:

Don't compare Pena to McCarthy... :crazyboy:

Just read that McCarthy will most likely NOT be in Porto next season.

Not really news but Rui Costa again said he wants to come back to Benfica.

He wants to come back, not now... unfortunately.

But to return in 2005 or 2006, no thanks.

Originally posted by 3m1n3m
He wants to come back, not now... unfortunately.

But to return in 2005 or 2006, no thanks. I know not this year, he's listed as indespensible by Milan, and even if he was for sale it'd be a waste of money for Benfica to get him.

I don't think Rui Costa comeback soon to Benfica, first his salary it's too high and second Milan is not interested in sell it.

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
I don't think Rui Costa comeback soon to Benfica, first his salary it's too high and second Milan is not interested in sell it. I know he won't! He won't break into our midfield when he's older anyways. Roger (if he stays) and Tiago will be world class at the time of 2005-2006. Also we could afford his salary after E2004, and when Rui comes back Zaho's gone foresure, so that is not a problem. The problem is his transfer fee that may cost 15 to 25 million Euros.


Also nobody's mentioned it, but Benfica's interested in ex-Real Madrid captain Hierro. I'd like to see him here, as he'll bring tons of experience to our squad ahead of our Champion's League campaign. He's also still a great defender and would be good in the middle with say Ricardo Rocha.

http://www.record.pt/getimage.asp?tb=IMAGENS&id=41719

http://www.record.pt/noticia.asp?id=260622&idCanal=17

Woohoo!!!!!!!!(H) :rockman: one of my favourite young players is signing for porto, his name is RICARDO FERNANDES, and i never undrstood why boloni,after an amazing pre-season, never let him play:rolleyes:

He makes terrific passes and he's a free-kick master:mrpimp:

Porto is on fire after signing bosingwa now its ricardo's turn and...we get rid of Clayton:evil:

Whilst Porto celebrates Fernandes, Benfica has guaranteed (according to A Bola) that Brazilian International and World Cup winner Júnior will be part of the squad next season. Also Benfica is looking at and will most likely sign one of the following central defenders: Hierro (Spanish International), Polga (Brazilian International) and Pochettino (Argentine International).

Originally posted by calve11
Whilst Porto celebrates Fernandes, Benfica has guaranteed (according to A Bola) that Brazilian International and World Cup winner Júnior will be part of the squad next season. Also Benfica is looking at and will most likely sign one of the following central defenders: Hierro (Spanish International), Polga (Brazilian International) and Pochettino (Argentine International).

I think u are going in the wrong way definitely... Hierro and Junior are over the 30's and the others are not amazing players, far away from that cause only Polga is not too much old. I still think the best policy is buying young players like Porto is doing, btw Ricardo Fernandes is a good midfielder and Clayton don't stand a chance with Cesar Peixoto and Derlei in our squad, so that's a good swap. ;)

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
(...)I still think the best policy is buying young players like Porto is doing(...)

agree!! and not only they are young, but above all they are Portuguese! :rockman: :D

Originally posted by bmpv666
agree!! and not only they are young, but above all they are Portuguese! :rockman: :D

What kind of young players is FC Porto buying ?????

Sporting already buy tue U21 International Mário Sérgio, right-back of 21 years-old...


BTW : the right policy in Portugal is FORMATION !!!!!! And Sporting RULEZ!!!!!! We do have an youth Academy functional and installations and organization !!!!!!:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

The news of the day s that we got rid of Clayton and Capucho in the same offseason! (H) :rockman:

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
What kind of young players is FC Porto buying ?????

Sporting already buy tue U21 International Mário Sérgio, right-back of 21 years-old...


BTW : the right policy in Portugal is FORMATION !!!!!! And Sporting RULEZ!!!!!! We do have an youth Academy functional and installations and organization !!!!!!:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

it's true...but the "kids" play for a season or 2 in the main team and they sell them...the problem is that we do not have money to buy good players...or to keep our good ones


in that Clayton-Fernandes deal...i think we don't need Clayton...we got Ronaldo,Quaresma(?),Luis Filipe,Tello,Lourenço...even João Pinto could play as a left forward...

here's mu Sporting team for next season

GK - Nelson
LB - Rui Jorge
CD - Beto
CD - Gamarra (if not....Quiroga)
RB - Mario Sergio
DM - Rui Bento
MC - Carlos Martins
AMC - João Pinto
LF - Ronaldo
RF - Quaresma(or Luis filipe...if quaresma leaves)
ST - Niculae (and i hope João Paiva stays in the team)

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
I think u are going in the wrong way definitely... Hierro and Junior are over the 30's and the others are not amazing players, far away from that cause only Polga is not too much old. I still think the best policy is buying young players like Porto is doing, btw Ricardo Fernandes is a good midfielder and Clayton don't stand a chance with Cesar Peixoto and Derlei in our squad, so that's a good swap. ;) How are we going the wrong way, by signing an awesome left back and a world class central defender? We're looking to make a strong run in the CL and dethrone FC Porto. Junior is 30 I think. He stays for 1 to 3 years than we'll have other great left backs lined up to take his spot. Carvalhinho is good and Tiago Gomes is awesome (U17 Champ).

Hierro would be great in the central with a pacey central defender like Ricardo Rocha in the middle, an elite central defence. Also he'll sell some jersies and it'll be good to have him around for the centennial, plus it'll bring some publicity to the Portuguese Liga/Benfica.

Polga's not a great player? He's an awesome defender, very smart and can produce some offence. Also he's a guarantee call for Brasil every single match.


Man I can't wait 'till the start of the season! :rockman: :wootman:

Is it true Sporting is asking only 10 million for Quaresma?
At that price and now that Lendoiro's just got fresh tv money...
Quaresma at Riazor :p

i don't think Quaresma will leave now...

today's newspapers are talking about Sporting interested in Helton(GK from Leiria) in think it would be great if he comes to alvalade.

also nikolaidis is on is to PSG...now sporting are looking for another striker.....they say João Tomás and Silva are possibilities

silva is wanted by sporting Porto and Benfica

It's good to see our bigger clubs investing in Portugal's younger players for a change....it wasn't too long ago that some of our best young talent stayed at little clubs or sat on the bench while very mediocre foreign players got the playing time (still happens I guess, but not as much..)

Originally posted by Mihalcea
i don't think Quaresma will leave now...

today's newspapers are talking about Sporting interested in Helton(GK from Leiria) in think it would be great if he comes to alvalade.

also nikolaidis is on is to PSG...now sporting are looking for another striker.....they say João Tomás and Silva are possibilities

silva is wanted by sporting Porto and Benfica

João Tomás had a lot of injuries this season (:kader: ) and Silva isn't the striker that Sporting needs. a good buy should be Nacional's Stricker Adriano (23 years old) and Defensive miedefielder Paulo assunção ( remember that DM of Sporting had a lack of quality - Rui Bento, or old - paulo Bento-)...BTW Clayton is a very good player, left-footed and when he was called to FC Porto 11 he's done a good job


CLAYTON
Games played : 12
Games completes : 1
Total Time Played : 555 minutes
Games in 11 : 6
goals scored : 2
Yellow card : 5

Originally posted by ::shinji::
It's good to see our bigger clubs investing in Portugal's younger players for a change....it wasn't too long ago that some of our best young talent stayed at little clubs or sat on the bench while very mediocre foreign players got the playing time (still happens I guess, but not as much..)

Yeah, I agree with you 100%, but there's still one club that hasn't learned the lesson (hint: Drulovic, Zahovic, Roger, Panduru, Feher, Deane, Thomas, etc., etc...) :kader:

Speaking of which, I read today that the Ricardo move is still not 100% secure. Are we in for a surprise?

Apparently, Porto gave up on Benny, but the real negative news is that we're after... Silva and Olisabede. :|

Ricardo is owned by Benfica, but he has yet signed a contract. He's supposed to do this on Monday, then be presented to the media with Junior next week :)


BTW, 8 players from our starting 11 are Portuguese. The only reason we're chasing these other guys is because they're being let go on a free! Camacho already said that if he prefers Portuguese players on his squad. I mean we need a left back, so we got a Brazilian..... Name a good Portuguese left back ;)

Originally posted by calve11
Name a good Portuguese left back ;)

Nuno Valente, Hugo Luz, Mário Silva, Jorge Ribeiro, Carvalhinho... do you want more?

nuno valente? oh my god...

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Nuno Valente, Hugo Luz, Mário Silva, Jorge Ribeiro, Carvalhinho... do you want more?

Definately Jorge Ribeiro! Best left-back in Portugal. I still don't understand why he's not the national team's starting LB :confused:

Originally posted by Punkt
nuno valente? oh my god...

Sure, who's in Portugal National Team? Nuno Valente played the most games in Porto and made a great season, it's one of the best left defenderes in Portugal, Great in defense and great in attack, you are really fanatic, open your eyes...

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Definately Jorge Ribeiro! Best left-back in Portugal. I still don't understand why he's not the national team's starting LB :confused: I agree, but he won't come back to Benfica. I can't believe we let him go :kader:

Nuno Valente, Hugo Luz, Mário Silva, Jorge Ribeiro, Carvalhinho Riiiiiiight. None of those players are near the level of Junior. Although it's nice of you to include Carvalhinho :) . He's our future LB.

Originally posted by calve11
I agree, but he won't come back to Benfica. I can't believe we let him go :kader:


I can..:(

The left-back position is, together with the left wing one, the most fragile in Portuguese football, nowadays. It's hard to find someone like Paulo Ferreira for the left side.

Ok, Nuno Valente has prooven me wrong. He's a good player. Mário Silva, doesn't play much. Bad temperement, but fast. Tiago Carvalhinho, still has to develop much. Jorge Ribeiro, wanted to get out of Benfica so much, he ended in Division 2. Makes me remember of some PSG midfielder than has been rejected by Marítimo :rolleyes:

The solution was to look out of Portugal, and Júnior seems to be a good signing, in my perspective. Although I don't quite like much loan signings, I have to agree with this one.

And with Geovanni here for one more year, now we need to confirm the pending moves. I'm starting to get scared about Ricardo not signing.

But... selling Ednilson to FC Kaiserslautern for €500k?!?!?! THIS IS A RIP OFF!! UNETHYCALL!! UNFAIR!!

Yeah I read about this Ednilson transfer on Mais Futebol, and I'm still.......very surprised and dissapointed! E500,000 for a player with such potential is robbery. Please tell me this isn't true!!!!!!

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Sure, who's in Portugal National Team? ...


ANSWER : Rui Jorge, from SPORTING!!!!:crazyboy: :crazyboy: :crazyboy:

I've read in A Bola that Paulo Rink is coming to Academica...for shore

that's good news...he's 30 years old but still a good player

Apparently the Gamarra to Sporting deal is very close to being finished, only detail that's been a hassle is the wage being offered by Sporting.

Anyone know how the Pedro Mendes to Porto deal is going?

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
Anyone know how the Pedro Mendes to Porto deal is going?

It's almost done.It will depends of what players to go to VSC Guimarães. there's a lot of talk that Ricardo Fernandes will be included in the change +an amount of money...:o :o :o

Pedro Mendes is now a Porto player according to Record

btw McCarthy won't be playing for Porto next season, all because of McCarthy's agent who wanted to get more money than that he deserved with the business...I wonder...the agents are suposed to defend their client's interests or their own interests? :kader:

Originally posted by bmpv666
btw McCarthy won't be playing for Porto next season, all because of McCarthy's agent who wanted to get more money than that he deserved with the business...I wonder...the agents are suposed to defend their client's interests or their own interests? :kader:

This character Rob Moore has ****ed up Benni's career.

In 2000 and 2001, his proposed transfer to Middlesbrough collapsed due to him wanting his own share of the transfer fee.

Last summer, again Rob Moore, wanted a really big share of the transfer fee Porto would pay to Celta. Again, transfer aborted.

Now, this.

And still McCarthy hasen't found a new agent :rolleyes:

Originally posted by 3m1n3m
This character Rob Moore has ****ed up Benni's career.

In 2000 and 2001, his proposed transfer to Middlesbrough collapsed due to him wanting his own share of the transfer fee.

Last summer, again Rob Moore, wanted a really big share of the transfer fee Porto would pay to Celta. Again, transfer aborted.

Now, this.

I guess he is better than JOSÉ VEIGA that owns 30 players of Benfica...and all players transfers are behind footballers agents; THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT OF THEYR SHARE ( i belive 10-15% of it) and they are legallized by FIFA!!!!!

Originally posted by calve11
And still McCarthy hasen't found a new agent :rolleyes:

I totally agree with you, i still cannot understand why McCarthy keep this Agent, he's screwing up his career.

Benfica has taken Roger off the transfer list and the Brazilian WILL play with Benfica this season! Thank God! Hopefully Ednilson will be next!

i don't know how mccarthy's agent has this power! if mccarthy wants to play in Porto and both clubs have agreed the transfer how can an agent block the transfer?
this agents are the cancer of football.

dário will play in ukraine next season. :crazyboy:
great transfer for him, because he will play in Champions League.
i think he deserves;)

Originally posted by Punkt
i don't know how mccarthy's agent has this power! if mccarthy wants to play in Porto and both clubs have agreed the transfer how can an agent block the transfer?
this agents are the cancer of football.

I agree with you, i think that the agents have too much power, they just want money, they ****ed up many transfers, they put bad ideas in player's heads. That's why FC PORTO and CELTA are negotiating with McCarthy's lawyer.

Porto can't pay McCarthy's wages at Celta so he is going to lose money if he goes to Portugal and his agent wanted Celta to pay the difference but he failed :)

Sérgio Conceição won't be playing for Porto next season, and guess who's fault is...Sérgio's agent!! i'm getting sick of this guys! :kader:

read it here (in Portuguese):

http://www.record.pt/noticia.asp?id=264748&idCanal=17

By the way, Porto will come to play the Teresa Herrera tournament the frist days of August, I hope they won't sell anyone till then :)

Originally posted by bmpv666
Sérgio Conceição won't be playing for Porto next season, and guess who's fault is...Sérgio's agent!! i'm getting sick of this guys! :kader:

read it here (in Portuguese):

http://www.record.pt/noticia.asp?id=264748&idCanal=17

Wasn't Luciano D'Onofrio Pinto da Costa's ex-boyfriend?! Lol.

He was responsible for Vitor Baía's return to Porto, back in October 2000.

But in recent years, agents are trying to earn even more money that their players.

Benni's Rob Moore, Sérgio's D'Onofrio and Júnior's Oliveira Júnior. José Veiga also went to Italy to get his own share of Júnior's transfer to Benfica (if it ever takes place).

BTW, to ALVALADE-XXI, José Veiga doesn't only own Benfica players. He also owns 40% of Sporting's youth players and a considerable number of senior squad members. And if you go 300 kilometres up, you'll see Jorge Mendes owning about 14 players of Porto's Main squad (which are 25), excluding B Team, U-19 players and on-loan players.

This is normal, nowadays. But you only seem to care about Benfica, Benfica, Benfica. And if you don't believe me at all, check Veiga's Superfoot (http://www.superfoot.pt) and Mendes' Gestifoot (http://www.gestifute.com). Hope your doubts are cleared after this.

Originally posted by 3m1n3m
Wasn't Luciano D'Onofrio Pinto da Costa's ex-boyfriend?! Lol.

He was responsible for Vitor Baía's return to Porto, back in October 2000.

But in recent years, agents are trying to earn even more money that their players.

Benni's Rob Moore, Sérgio's D'Onofrio and Júnior's Oliveira Júnior. José Veiga also went to Italy to get his own share of Júnior's transfer to Benfica (if it ever takes place).

BTW, to ALVALADE-XXI, José Veiga doesn't only own Benfica players. He also owns 40% of Sporting's youth players and a considerable number of senior squad members. And if you go 300 kilometres up, you'll see Jorge Mendes owning about 14 players of Porto's Main squad (which are 25), excluding B Team, U-19 players and on-loan players.

This is normal, nowadays. But you only seem to care about Benfica, Benfica, Benfica. And if you don't believe me at all, check Veiga's Superfoot (http://www.superfoot.pt) and Mendes' Gestifoot (http://www.gestifute.com). Hope your doubts are cleared after this.

Veiga made a very big mystake with Sporting...he already lost Hugo Viana, Ricardo Quaresma, cristiano ronaldo, Beto, amoung others.

BTW : be awake, that in the near future he's gonna lose others, like Carlos Martins, joão Paiva, Custódio...i know this by a very safe and confidence source...be aware and when it happens you'll remember my words. Veiga is ****ed up with Sporting and FC Porto, so he's got a very litlle way ahead. In another hand he's gonna start to sell the players of Benfica in a very near future. Another thing : Tiago Mendes "belongs" to Barbosa...:crazyboy:

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
Veiga is ****ed up with Sporting and FC Porto, so he's got a very litlle way ahead. In another hand he's gonna start to sell the players of Benfica in a very near future. Another thing : Tiago Mendes "belongs" to Barbosa...:crazyboy:


he only sell the players if benfica want to sell because he only represent them don't own them!

stupid and useless conversation...u dont even know what or who controls the players or the clubs..if u dont know the whole story dont comment it, its ridiculous and pointless...anyway, sorry for the speech:crazyboy:


but u can be sure that there could be an alien chiefing the whole football structure that we, common people, would be the last to know if we ever knew it at all...we just know what they want us to know...

and no, im not drunk;) (H)

Wow, seems like all the fans of FC Porto (with the exception of Goo Goo Boy) and Sporting are not fans, you guys are simply Anti-Benfica idiots :rolleyes:

Anyways Pedro Mendes is now a player for Porto. We all knew it was going to happen, but I think FCP lost a great talent in Bruno Alves....

Originally posted by calve11
Wow, seems like all the fans of FC Porto (with the exception of Goo Goo Boy) and Sporting are not fans, you guys are simply Anti-Benfica idiots :rolleyes:


No, we are not Anti-Benfica idiots, we simply tell some things that u don't like to hear... Face the reality, if u benfica fans respect us than we could have more respect to your club...

The Pedro Mendes deal didn't involve a PERMENANT move for Bruno Alves, he's just been loaned for a season.

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
No, we are not Anti-Benfica idiots, we simply tell some things that u don't like to hear... Face the reality, if u benfica fans respect us than we could have more respect to your club...

what do you mean for respect? we don't disrespect any porto fans here. we don't open anti-porto threads...
respect is a word that you don't know the meaning

Manoel, ex-gil vicente plater, is about to sign for Marítimo...Adriano and Rossato are very close to be in Sporting's roster next year, and Cambiasso is one of the propositions by Real Madrid to be included in the Beto transfer to the Spanish Champs; the only thing that can be against this trade is the high wage of Cambiasso -a litlle bit larger than the 75 000 € of HEAD-salary that Sporting wants to implement . In the other hand there's a lot of talks about the transfer of Rodrigo Costa , Center back from Munchen 1860, who's wage is 50 000 €, and the transfer is about 1,2 million €. Custódio, Carlos Martins, Lourenço and Garcia will be , definitely, be promoted to Sporting's first team.(H) :rockman: :mrpimp: :D

Cambiasso??? you must be kidding:crazyboy:

Originally posted by Punkt
what do you mean for respect? we don't disrespect any porto fans here. we don't open anti-porto threads...
respect is a word that you don't know the meaning :clapwap: :rockman:

McCarthy will be playing for Porto next season!! YUUPIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :D

http://www.record.pt

:confused:

I know O Record posts a lot of B.S. but now they're saying that Maritimo have signed forward Arnold Bruggink from PSV!? If this is true, that's a really big signing for a club with limited means like Maritimo!

I think this upcoming season in the superliga is going to be the most exiting in ages....some of the smaller clubs like Belenenses, Maritimo, and Academica seem to be getting ready for a serious attempt at the top spots and that extra UEFA cup placement..

Originally posted by ::shinji::
:confused:

I know O Record posts a lot of B.S. but now they're saying that Maritimo have signed forward Arnold Bruggink from PSV!? If this is true, that's a really big signing for a club with limited means like Maritimo!

I think this upcoming season in the superliga is going to be the most exiting in ages....some of the smaller clubs like Belenenses, Maritimo, and Academica seem to be getting ready for a serious attempt at the top spots and that extra UEFA cup placement..

Marítimo is not so small as you might think...they have a lot of financial support of BIG names and governament. Such as Sá Company, Joe Berardo, plenty of emigrants that send their donations from all around the world...another names that will be in Marítimo next season is Bino (ex-Tenerife), Manoel (ex.Gil Vicente) and they are in negotiatons with Sporting to some loans of "excedents" from the "toulon Dream Team", such as Garcia, Santamaria, Djaló, Lourenço, amoung others. All those teams are investing cause next year there will be 4 teams in U.E.F.A. cup...another team that is making a huge effort is Sporting Braga...

Originally posted by bmpv666
McCarthy will be playing for Porto next season!! YUUPIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :D

http://www.record.pt

Yes now the lamps can fear even more our team and i think we have a better team than last year (is that posible? :p).

Wasn't Ricardo in Benfica already? :p Seems to me another great failure by Benfica... see this http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/futb/mf_editoria?mf_edi=327&mf_id=82698&mf_club=0&num_jog=0&p_sondagem=0&p_voto=0

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Yes now the lamps can fear even more our team and i think we have a better team than last year (is that posible? :p).

i fear postiga more than benni.

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Wasn't Ricardo in Benfica already? :p Seems to me another great failure by Benfica... see this http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/futb/mf_editoria?mf_edi=327&mf_id=82698&mf_club=0&num_jog=0&p_sondagem=0&p_voto=0

mouta mas para ti a contratação do ricardo não ia ser um erro do benfica? não foste tu que disseste que ia atirar o moreira para o banco e blá blá blá?
mas agora que a contratação não vai ser feita tb é falha? ep
a és bue coerente. conheces akele ditado "preso por ter cão e preso por não ter"?


PS: se calhar tás a falar cedo demais... tem cuidado com essas euforias.

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
Marítimo is not so small as you might think...they have a lot of financial support of BIG names and governament. Such as Sá Company, Joe Berardo, plenty of emigrants that send their donations from all around the world...another names that will be in Marítimo next season is Bino (ex-Tenerife), Manoel (ex.Gil Vicente) and they are in negotiatons with Sporting to some loans of "excedents" from the "toulon Dream Team", such as Garcia, Santamaria, Djaló, Lourenço, amoung others. All those teams are investing cause next year there will be 4 teams in U.E.F.A. cup...another team that is making a huge effort is Sporting Braga...

yes you're right. maritimo is the sensation of the pre-season lol
great signins especially bruggink. (H)
and manuel cajuda is a great manager.

Originally posted by Punkt
mouta mas para ti a contratação do ricardo não ia ser um erro do benfica? não foste tu que disseste que ia atirar o moreira para o banco e blá blá blá?
mas agora que a contratação não vai ser feita tb é falha? ep
a és bue coerente. conheces akele ditado "preso por ter cão e preso por não ter"?


PS: se calhar tás a falar cedo demais... tem cuidado com essas euforias.

Continuo a achar que é um erro mas só me rio da palhaçada que é o Benfica, pois andaram 2 semanas a dizer que já era do Benfica e ainda não tava contratado. Pudera, queriam dar-lhe o mesmo ordenado do que no Boavista, é só por isso que digo que é falha. Euforia? De que? Tanto me faz se lá tá o Ricardo ou o Moreira pois é um sector onde o Benfica não precisa de se reforçar.

Originally posted by Punkt
i fear postiga more than benni.

Good to you, keep your opinion while McCarthy continues to score. :p

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Continuo a achar que é um erro mas só me rio da palhaçada que é o Benfica, pois andaram 2 semanas a dizer que já era do Benfica e ainda não tava contratado. Pudera, queriam dar-lhe o mesmo ordenado do que no Boavista, é só por isso que digo que é falha. Euforia? De que? Tanto me faz se lá tá o Ricardo ou o Moreira pois é um sector onde o Benfica não precisa de se reforçar.

não foi o benfica que disse que já estava contratado foram os jornais. o benfica apenas disse que tinha chegado a acordo com o boavista e que tavam a negociar com o jogador.
se tanto de faz as contratações do benfica porque tás sempre para aqui a falar delas?

Mouta, you're such a fanboy. McCarthy was a fluke with Porto and he's been sitting on the bench for a year. Say all you want, but Postiga is better than McCarthy. Postiga went for 4 times the price Big Fluke Attack went for, has that hinted anything to you? He's still a good player, but as a Benfiquista I'm happy to see Postiga out and Benni in ;) .

Originally posted by ::shinji::
:confused:

I know O Record posts a lot of B.S. but now they're saying that Maritimo have signed forward Arnold Bruggink from PSV!? If this is true, that's a really big signing for a club with limited means like Maritimo!

I think this upcoming season in the superliga is going to be the most exiting in ages....some of the smaller clubs like Belenenses, Maritimo, and Academica seem to be getting ready for a serious attempt at the top spots and that extra UEFA cup placement.. I agree! Hopefully these teams will give more competition on a weekly basis to the big three. Who knows they may do well in the UEFA Cup next season too :) .

Originally posted by calve11
Who knows they may do well in the UEFA Cup next season too :) .

After almost seeing an all-Portuguese UEFA Cup final, I think it's damn well possible they'll do VERY well in UEFA next season too! :)

Originally posted by calve11
Mouta, you're such a fanboy. McCarthy was a fluke with Porto and he's been sitting on the bench for a year. Say all you want, but Postiga is better than McCarthy. Postiga went for 4 times the price Big Fluke Attack went for, has that hinted anything to you? He's still a good player, but as a Benfiquista I'm happy to see Postiga out and Benni in ;) .

U always say the same, i'm a fanboy... can't u see i'm just giving my honest opinion? I really think McCarthy is better than Postiga and no i'm not crazy. First of all i was a great fan of Postiga but like i said a few time ago i think Postiga still misses a lot of goals and he have to increase his head skills, when he do all this things then he can be one of the best strikers in the world, but remember he is only a young player. At this moment i really think McCarthy it's more effective and scores more goals so it's better to us, and btw being in the bench don't mean that he's not a good player, Celta coach simply don't like him and we portistas thank him a lot. When the season starts and u see FCP playing you'll see what i mean... ;)

Things have turned completely!

-Ricardo looks more distant to sign for Benfica.

Although negotiations are not canceled, they have taken a huge step back. But considering the words from his agent Nuno Baptista, I can only see Ricardo heading to a foreign country, for Baptista to get his own share of the transfer fee. Because in Portugal, money for agents is over. Why do you think Veiga isn't doing business with Benfica so often like a year or two ago (only was involved in Junior's negotiations, but not even that is confirmed)? Or why do you think Jorge Mendes is in such rush to transfer Ricardo Quaresma to Spain (=fresh cash)?

But I still believe Ricardo will make his brilliant saves in a Benfica shirt next season. The player and Boavista's president said it themselves; negotiations have stopped, have not been canceled. I still hope words have its weight, nowadays.

-Benni has signed a 4 year contract with FC Porto.

Personally, I only like Benni signing for Porto, so I can watch him play more and more often. I really like him. He's a great player indeed (yes, for me, the club a player plays for doesn't matter). The bad side of it, is that he may **** Benfica's campaign this year :p

calve11 you must review your SL Benfica titles cause Iberian Cup it's not an official trophy, about Latin Cup it also unoffiicial but i know that existed between 1948 and 1957 before the official UEFA competitions so they can't be included as official titles. Btw Latin Cup was so unofficial that the clubs that played it was not the Champions of their countries cause FC Porto never played it even when he won Portuguese Championship. Even CF Belenenses played it. Barcelona and Real Madrid also won the Latin Cup but they don't included them in the official titles so take your conclusions... The official titles are:

Portuguese League
Portuguese Cup
Portuguese Championship
Portuguese Supercup
UEFA Cup
Cup Winners Cup
Intertoto Cup
European Champions Cup
Champions League
European Supercup
Intercontinental Cup

Hope now you know the official titles and don't call me fanatic, i'm just a football fan with a lot of information.
:p

Good job! And it's still pretty funny how you were arguing with me before on how Porto's the most successful team in Portugal :D :D :D .

I'll enjoy watching Porto next season. They're not gonna have a repeat of last season, watch ;) . I believe that if Ricardo, a left back (Junior?), a central defender (Hierro?) comes, we will be able to dethrone Porto....watch.....

Originally posted by calve11
Good job! And it's still pretty funny how you were arguing with me before on how Porto's the most successful team in Portugal :D :D :D .

I'll enjoy watching Porto next season. They're not gonna have a repeat of last season, watch ;) . I believe that if Ricardo, a left back (Junior?), a central defender (Hierro?) comes, we will be able to dethrone Porto....watch.....

Everytime u speak that Benfica is able to beat this FCP team i have a big laugh, can't u see that Benfica isn't able to compete with FC Porto at this time? Even if u sign all that players we still have a better team so keep dreaming... :D And btw i think it's really difficult to repeat this season but we can win the league and go really far in the CL... i still have faith in winning the European Supercup too. ;)

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]

Intertoto Cup

Hope now you know the official titles and don't call me fanatic, i'm just a football fan with a lot of information.
:p

If you are really informed, you should know that Intertoto Cup isn't a trophy, is a competition that the ones who win it (there are 4 or 8 winners, I'm not sure at the moment), go to the UEFA Cup.

Yeah, that's right... check ma sig lataa

Originally posted by 3m1n3m
If you are really informed, you should know that Intertoto Cup isn't a trophy, is a competition that the ones who win it (there are 4 or 8 winners, I'm not sure at the moment), go to the UEFA Cup.

I'm really informed and i can say to u that Intertoto Cup is an official competition, where 3 teams win and that 3 teams go to the UEFA Cup. Each one of those teams receives a little trophy from UEFA so that's a trophy... ;) btw u can check what i'm saying at http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/IntertotoCup/AllTimeStatistics/index.html

Originally posted by CarlosAlex
Yeah, that's right... check ma sig lataa

Man i know that u like to inform all the people here in the forums but that sig is really not necessary...:p u can see the years FCP have won that trophies in my sig. ;) btw i have a suggestion to you, why don't u give a link in your sig to a site where u can put that kind of information? That's much better than having a sig with that size... :D

André (ex-Académica) is Boavista's new player for the next 4 seasons...a good player!!!!

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
calve11 you must review your SL Benfica titles cause Iberian Cup it's not an official trophy, about Latin Cup it also unoffiicial but i know that existed between 1948 and 1957 before the official UEFA competitions so they can't be included as official titles. Btw Latin Cup was so unofficial that the clubs that played it was not the Champions of their countries cause FC Porto never played it even when he won Portuguese Championship. Even CF Belenenses played it. Barcelona and Real Madrid also won the Latin Cup but they don't included them in the official titles so take your conclusions... The official titles are:

Portuguese League
Portuguese Cup
Portuguese Championship
Portuguese Supercup
UEFA Cup
Cup Winners Cup
Intertoto Cup
European Champions Cup
Champions League
European Supercup
Intercontinental Cup

Hope now you know the official titles and don't call me fanatic, i'm just a football fan with a lot of information.
:p


BTW, he forgot to includ "Taça Amizade" trophy that Benfica won against fiorentina in 2001 (:crazyboy: :rolleyes: ) AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
BTW, he forgot to includ "Taça Amizade" trophy that Benfica won against fiorentina in 2001 (:crazyboy: :rolleyes: ) AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!AH! Buddy, how are you talking you're a Sporting fan! You're an idiot and you've been spamming anti-Benfica **** all over this forum since you've arrived. I simply took the trophies that we won (according to www.sl-benfica.com) and put them in my sig.

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
BTW, he forgot to includ "Taça Amizade" trophy that Benfica won against fiorentina in 2001 (:crazyboy: :rolleyes: ) AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!

LOL :p I think that we can start adding to the titles of our teams all the pre-season throphies... :crazyboy:

Candido Costa will go to Derby County on loan

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
BTW, he forgot to includ "Taça Amizade" trophy that Benfica won against fiorentina in 2001 (:crazyboy: :rolleyes: ) AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!AH!

you are so idiot :rolleyes:
by the way the "taça amizade" is played in paris and benfica won it against club brugge in 2001. idiot

Funny Calve should mention those 3 players...

Ricardo-Most likely staying in Boavista for another season
Junior-Not going to Benfica unless god himself comes and gives the devil himself 20 million dollars
Hierro-Not only is he too expensive, but a complete waste of time hes too damn old to keep up with Porto's defence.

Originally posted by calve11
I simply took the trophies that we won (according to www.sl-benfica.com) and put them in my sig.

Well that site is not official... i've already told here the official throphies so i don't spend more time with that issue. Like i said before and u benfica fans don't seem to understand is that FCP is the portuguese team with more international trophies, so don't come here saying that Latin and Iberian Cup are real trophies... :p BTW u can check what i'm saying in the official website of UEFA.

Originally posted by Punkt
you are so idiot :rolleyes:
by the way the "taça amizade" is played in paris and benfica won it against club brugge in 2001. idiot

Man u don't have to insult nobody, can't u just expose your opinions and at the same time respect the others? Well i think u all benfiquistas do the same, when u hear something that it's true and u don't like then u start insulting and saying that everyone is anti-benfica... :p

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
Funny Calve should mention those 3 players...

Ricardo-Most likely staying in Boavista for another season
Junior-Not going to Benfica unless god himself comes and gives the devil himself 20 million dollars
Hierro-Not only is he too expensive, but a complete waste of time hes too damn old to keep up with Porto's defence. Ricardo - He will come to Benfica, but even if he doesn't I'll still be happy with Moreira.
Junior - Even if he doesn't come, we will still get a left back whether you like it or not.
Hierro - Oh yeah, too damn old, the guy's way better than Jorge Costa. Pair him up with Ricardo Rocha and you'll see how good our defense is.


Sporting's going downhill again. Selling Quaresma.... and getting RochemCRAP in return... thats robbery but then again you guys have never been the sharpest too in the shed.

Selling Ronaldo for.... Salas :D :D :D ... or Zalayeta... OMG :p


But then again I think I'm gonna stop posting here as much as I do, it's not fun AT ALL to post here and support Benfica.... you anti-Benfica idiots aren't that fun to argue with either. It seems here that all us Benfiquistas are doing is defending our club (except for shinji, I think he's learned to ignore these ignorant posters), and all the other clubs 'fans' ([mouta-FCP], Hugo-45-Viana, ALVALADE-XXI, INFESTA...) do is cut up our club, opening threads as soon as a bad report on Benfica comes out. Man this site was a whole lot better before the anti-Benfica nation got here...

Bah... dont be so pessimistic Calvie.... cheer up!!! ;)

Originally posted by calve11


But then again I think I'm gonna stop posting here as much as I do, it's not fun AT ALL to post here and support Benfica.... you anti-Benfica idiots aren't that fun to argue with either. It seems here that all us Benfiquistas are doing is defending our club (except for shinji, I think he's learned to ignore these ignorant posters), and all the other clubs 'fans' ([mouta-FCP], Hugo-45-Viana, ALVALADE-XXI, INFESTA...) do is cut up our club, opening threads as soon as a bad report on Benfica comes out. Man this site was a whole lot better before the anti-Benfica nation got here...

U really like to say that everyone here is anti-benfica... like i said before if u benfica fans don't like to hear some trues then don't come here saying some kind of things that are completely wrong.
:rolleyes: Btw my only club is FCP, i just discuss about some things to defend my club, so support your club and don't say stupid things...

Originally posted by Punkt
you are so idiot :rolleyes:
by the way the "taça amizade" is played in paris and benfica won it against club brugge in 2001. idiot


those Benfica's fans are so stupid ... where's your pre-season victories ???? It's getting hard, no ???? Since The Drº Dias da Cunha put the mouth on the "papers" the "HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY" that Benfica seems to had to the transfers, is gone !!!! Fake money, with a fake SAD...or should i say, BES/GOVERNAMENT money ????? BTW don't call names to ALVALADE XXI, cause you don't know him...you'll get burned!!!!!!

Niculae gets injured again, he's gonna stop two months...:p Bad luck again for him.

If this news ever interests you (not likely), there has been movement on the transfer market, involving Portuguese football.

Ricardo Quaresma is off to Barcelona. He will sign a contract until 2009, and Sporting will receive 10 million euros plus Rochemback on loan. And with a part of that money, Sporting is negotiating Silva's transfer as we speak, with the presence of Boavista president João Loureiro and Sporting PLC Chairman Ribeiro Telles.

Calve-Ricardo was only rumored to go to Benfica. Benfica just tried to play their cards in the press to make it seem as if he was wearing their shirt already. The negotiations have lead nowhere.

Hierro is DAMN old, if you don't want to admit that, it is not I who is arrogant but yourself. A player who is 35 and not a goalkeeper is too old.

And Junior won't be going to Benfica because Parma will only sell him off and are not going to loan. Benfica don't have the money to buy him.

And how the hell are you gonna say Im digging into your club? I'm saying what's the truth. You dug more into my club in that one post then I have into yours.

Silva (ex-Boavista forward) is already player of Sporting to next 3 seasons...it's a good BENCH player.

Originally posted by calve11

But then again I think I'm gonna stop posting here as much as I do, it's not fun AT ALL to post here and support Benfica.... you anti-Benfica idiots aren't that fun to argue with either. It seems here that all us Benfiquistas are doing is defending our club (except for shinji, I think he's learned to ignore these ignorant posters), and all the other clubs 'fans' ([mouta-FCP], Hugo-45-Viana, ALVALADE-XXI, INFESTA...) do is cut up our club, opening threads as soon as a bad report on Benfica comes out. Man this site was a whole lot better before the anti-Benfica nation got here...

another example of a typical benfica fan, still thinking that his club his the best in the world and his as big has it was 25/30 years ago, and that's why he can't stand hearing and reading stuff that is against his club...you've got to chill out, do you think i care if everyone says bad at FC Porto? is just don't care, i live in Lisbon, and i'm daily surrounded by Benfica and Sporting fans so that's why i don't even try to argue cause i know i'll be spending my energies in a very unproductive way.
just because there are some guys saying that your club sucks and etc (that's normal u should get used to it), can't be a reason for you to stop posting here ;)

pax :D

Benfiquistas have enormous genitals..

Originally posted by rusi_88
Is Deco moving anywhere from Porto?

There are rumours that Barcelona is trying to sign him but he already said that he wants to stay at Porto, also Porto President said that Deco will stay next season. Hope he just stays at FC Porto cause Barcelona in the next season won't be in Champions League and also i think it's better for him staying at least one more season, his value can increase after EURO-2004 and that time can be the best to sell a player like Deco but who knows... ;)

Originally posted by bmpv666
another example of a typical benfica fan, still thinking that his club his the best in the world and his as big has it was 25/30 years ago, and that's why he can't stand hearing and reading stuff that is against his club...you've got to chill out, do you think i care if everyone says bad at FC Porto? is just don't care, i live in Lisbon, and i'm daily surrounded by Benfica and Sporting fans so that's why i don't even try to argue cause i know i'll be spending my energies in a very unproductive way.
just because there are some guys saying that your club sucks and etc (that's normal u should get used to it), can't be a reason for you to stop posting here ;)

pax :D

Very good speech... ;)

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Benfiquistas have enormous genitals..

what a post... :rolleyes: :crazyboy:

Calve-Ricardo was only rumored to go to Benfica. Benfica just tried to play their cards in the press to make it seem as if he was wearing their shirt already. The negotiations have lead nowhere.
You have got to be kidding me :rolleyes: :rolleyes: . How many times has Joao Loureiro said that Benfica and Boavista have com to terms on the transfer!!! All Ricardo has to do now is sign a contract and he is ours... Damn man, you get dumber everyday or what? :rolleyes:


another example of a typical benfica fan, still thinking that his club his the best in the world and his as big has it was 25/30 years ago, and that's why he can't stand hearing and reading stuff that is against his club...you've got to chill out, do you think i care if everyone says bad at FC Porto? is just don't care, i live in Lisbon, and i'm daily surrounded by Benfica and Sporting fans so that's why i don't even try to argue cause i know i'll be spending my energies in a very unproductive way.
just because there are some guys saying that your club sucks and etc (that's normal u should get used to it), can't be a reason for you to stop posting here

pax Actually, I don't think Benfica is the best club in the world. Actually I still think Porto's the strongest team in Portugal also. All I'm saying is that this season will be different, and I think that we will be challenging for the title this season under Camacho. Most FCP fans like before stated by someone (forget who) let the UEFA Cup get to their heads. They think they're in this fairy world or something, where everything is blue and white ( :-puke: ) and that there team can't be touched. It's been said over and over, and it's even been admitted by some of my family members and friends (Portistas), the season Porto had was a once in a lifetime thing...


Benfiquistas have enormous genitals.. http://www.xboxaddict.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_rofl.gif

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
what a post... :rolleyes: :crazyboy: Yep..that was a classic (H)

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Benfiquistas have enormous genitals..

in their arse!!!!!:crazyboy: :crazyboy: :crazyboy:

Silas signed for Wolves...

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Benfiquistas have enormous genitals..
I'm not in the mood for listening to a Benfiquista homosexual story. Thanks for the offer though.

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
I'm not in the mood for listening to a Benfiquista homosexual story. Thanks for the offer though.

LOL :crazyboy:

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
I'm not in the mood for listening to a Benfiquista homosexual story. Thanks for the offer though.



Speaking of Benfiquistas, why don't you call yourself a "Benfisportista" like you used to at xtratime.com? lol :confused:

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
Silva (ex-Boavista forward) is already player of Sporting to next 3 seasons...it's a good BENCH player.

Not really. I really rate him. He's a great player for our league. He can turn a match to his team's side. He's a decisive player, not being a striker, but scoring as many goals as almost many opportunities he has.

But the sale of Ricardo Quaresma is an outrage to Sporting. I still hope they use that money in a wise way, trying to avoid some useless loan signings (yes, there's money spent on loan signings), like Marcos Paulo (how many times did he play? 2? 3?), Vitaly Kutuzov (who yesterday joined Serie B Catania) and João Paulo (who had a wonderful career in front of him before joining Sporting's sub bench). The loan of Fábio Rochemback won't justify the 6 million euros Barça paid for Quaresma.

Next stop, Anderson Polga. Great player, I think. Was supposed to negotiate with Benfica, but he was a double-faced. Said he didn't want to go to Benfica to stay with Gremio for some more time, and now, is on the verge of joining Sporting. Didn't like his attitude, but I sure like him as a player.


If Sporting confirm Polga's signing, and a GOOD replacement for Quaresma, they will have a team to fight for next year's title.


Sorry if I wasn't suppose to say anything about Sporting because I'm Benfiquista. I might get flamed by ALVALADE-XXI because I gave my opinion about Sporting's transfer options.

Right... we're not homosexuals... in fact you were the sick minded bastards that brought it up ;)

Anyways, Gilberto of Gremio (left-back) may be coming to Benfica. I don't know much about him so I asked my Brazilian friend about him. He said he's got awesome technique and pace, but still needs to brush up on his defending skills. I think he was part of Brasil's Confederations Cup squad... I'll have to double check that tho..

Simão Sabrosa is FURIOUS...he was relegated of he's Captain Condition of Benfica and now he refuses to play as a sub-captain...no doubt he is a wonderful player, but he doesn't have any "brain" on he's MORON HEAD!!!!!! What a stupid thing to do...the papers said that he phone to Benfica's Sad Dirctor (LFV) to be transfered imediatly...what the **** is this...


BTW 3m1n3m, do you remmber my "predictons" some time ago about benfica's players that "belongs" to Zé Veiga ???? Be aware, because Simão "Affaire" will be the dead of Benfica this season, as Jardel was in Sporting last one... :kader: :kader: :kader:

Na man, its not as bad as the media are saying. Camacho is a great leader, and will get all this sorted out. Simão won't leave Benfica, I can assure you that..

It'll be sorted out...

Serginho sign a three year contract with FC Porto... :) it's not an outstanding player but it's a good player for sure.
http://www.record.pt/noticia.asp?id=271724&idCanal=17

Agreed. Serginho's a solid player, but he's not that great.

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
Simão Sabrosa is FURIOUS...he was relegated of he's Captain Condition of Benfica and now he refuses to play as a sub-captain...no doubt he is a wonderful player, but he doesn't have any "brain" on he's MORON HEAD!!!!!! What a stupid thing to do...the papers said that he phone to Benfica's Sad Dirctor (LFV) to be transfered imediatly...what the **** is this...


BTW 3m1n3m, do you remmber my "predictons" some time ago about benfica's players that "belongs" to Zé Veiga ???? Be aware, because Simão "Affaire" will be the dead of Benfica this season, as Jardel was in Sporting last one... :kader: :kader: :kader:

Why do you care so much about Benfica?

The situation is solved and closed. Just read Simão's statement in his official website.

There was too much "sururu" created around this whole situation. Of course it was serious, but not that serious.

And don't talk about José Veiga. If he wants he can just **** up Sporting at any time, by giving some "advice" to the young stars, and then, bye bye.

ALVALADE-XXI you should dedicate yourself to "Tarot". Your predictions are far away from reality :p j/k

BTW, Porto signed Serginho. Not a good signing. Like most brazilians, he's too inconsistent. He can play a brilliant match, and in the next three or four, doesn't do anything right. He's just like Clayton. Can't understand this signing.

Miguelito from Rio Ave is young, portuguese, youth international, consistant and is really cheap in every aspect. Why didn't Porto sign him? Well, Benfica thanks you :) Oh, and congrats for getting André Vilas-Boas. Excellent signing.

Originally posted by calve11
Right... we're not homosexuals... in fact you were the sick minded bastards that brought it up ;)

Odd, I don't remember mentioning genitals.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Speaking of Benfiquistas, why don't you call yourself a "Benfisportista" like you used to at xtratime.com? lol :confused:
Whoa, dude, that's the first time I heard that one. C'mon you come up with original stuff all the time on the grafix forum. :p

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
I'm not in the mood for listening to a Benfiquista homosexual story. Thanks for the offer though. You had the idea of the homosexuals, not us you sick minded pinleiro.



What's all this about a Benfisportista...? :confused:

Today's papers say the Captain controversy (eventhough it wasen't as big as the papers said) is over. Also....


:read: Simão não quer sair :read:

Also, Barça want Deco... a lot :)

Hey, Calve, if you manage to find me an OFFICIAL site for the Iberian and Latin cup then I'll consider considering Benfica as having 50 official trophies. :rolleyes:

And keep denying the fact that I didn't start it. When you have a man talking about genitals, it's pretty self-explained that there's some homosexual lovin' goin on. It's not perverted, it's common sense.

Originally posted by calve11
Today's papers say the Captain controversy (eventhough it wasen't as big as the papers said) is over. Also....


:read: Simão não quer sair :read:

Also, Barça want Deco... a lot :)

Well even with "Simulão" :p Benfica don't stand a chance. About Deco i can tell u that he's gonna stay, Barcelona is trying but Porto want to keep him so... ;)

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
Hey, Calve, if you manage to find me an OFFICIAL site for the Iberian and Latin cup then I'll consider considering Benfica as having 50 official trophies. :rolleyes:

And keep denying the fact that I didn't start it. When you have a man talking about genitals, it's pretty self-explained that there's some homosexual lovin' goin on. It's not perverted, it's common sense.

About the official trophies i agree with you. The other thing that u are arguing i think u should leave it... we are not here to talk about homosexuals. :rolleyes:

mouta please tell me where do you bought your crystal ball.

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
Hey, Calve, if you manage to find me an OFFICIAL site for the Iberian and Latin cup then I'll consider considering Benfica as having 50 official trophies. :rolleyes:
Dude, all I did was take the trophies from www.sl-benfica.com and put them in my sig, now stop being such a bitch that resorts to lame responses because you know nothing about football. :rolleyes: You're so pathetic. Anyways why would you be arguing with me about how many trophies Benfica has? We are hands down the greatest team ever out of Portugal.

As for the homosexual discussion we all know you want to continue, I'm leaving it at you were the first one to mention it.

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Well even with "Simulão" :p Benfica don't stand a chance. About Deco i can tell u that he's gonna stay, Barcelona is trying but Porto want to keep him so... ;) I don't understand this "Simulão" ****. FCP are the master divers and what the world saw at the UEFA final is what we were seeing all season. Deco especially.

As for Deco leaving, I agree that FCP will keep him. Plus why would they sell him when they would ony get HALF of his transfer fee money? And if the reports are true that FCB are preparing a E15M bid, then they foresure will not get him.


Ok, you always say we don't stand a chance. Well I'll say something else. FCP don't stand a chance at repeating last years season. Just ask your very own Nuno Valente and Costinha. ;)

Originally posted by Punkt
mouta please tell me where do you bought your crystal ball.

What makes u say that? :rolleyes:

This isn't about transfers, but I recently found this article.

June 09, 2003

Empty feelings after the event
By Alison Roberts



WHEN THE EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP IS over and the foreign fans have gone home, Portugal will be left not only with a hangover. It will also have ten new or refurbished stadiums, most of which are unlikely ever to be full again. The big three clubs will have no trouble filling their giant arenas for top games, and Boavista can pack in 30,000 for Oporto derbies. But in the other host cities, the outlook is rather different.
In Guimarães, 30 miles northeast of Oporto, Vitória are renowned for having among the most devoted of local fans. The town has none of the Benfica, Porto or Sporting Lisbon supporters’ clubs found in virtually every Portuguese town. But with a population of fewer than 60,000, Guimarães cannot hope to fill the 30,000-capacity Afonso Henriques Stadium to which finishing touches are now being put.

The highest attendance at a Vitória game in the past decade was less than 16,000, and the average gate last season was 9,000. Portuguese football federation officials say that they expect the tournament to whet the appetite of Portuguese fans and attendance at league games to surge in the seasons that follow.

“It was not the club’s decision to have a stadium with a 30,000 capacity,” Fernando Cruz Fernandes, Vitória’s director of sports facilities, said. “But we’re convinced that in the future, the new stadiums will be used by many more spectators because they offer comfort and safety that will attract more people.”

Vitória are trying to kick-start that process by marketing season tickets for fixed seats — a novelty here — on the assumption that demand will increase. “We’ve already felt that,” Fernandes said. “We’re very satisfied with the demand.”

Supporters seem more sceptical. “Gates will increase, but not in this first phase,” Idalécio Guimarães, an organiser of Insane Guys, a semi-official supporters’ association, said. “People will take a while to get used to the new season tickets.”

Officially, the stadium is being renovated and expanded, but this is practically a new construction. The pitch was lowered four feet to fit in extra seats, a giant new south stand was built, and everything other than the skeleton of the west and east stands is new. Including video and audio equipment and security systems, some €30.5 million (£19.8 million) is being spent on the project.

“It may be debatable whether all this sports infrastructure is needed, but the event will bring enormous advantages,” Fernandes said. “An event on this scale brings publicity for the region that would otherwise be difficult to achieve.”

Josías Carvalho, the council official overseeing the project, says voters are solidly behind it. “It’s a big financial effort, but that takes account of the fact that this is an area where people like football a lot,” he said.

Unlike in other Portuguese host cities, where the club is footing most of the bill, here the council is paying all but the 25 per cent supplied by central government. The project does include the redevelopment of areas around the stadium but many locals see the funding arrangement as yet another example of uncomfortably close links between politics and sport in the town.

“A few years ago, Vitória paid for fancy new lighting with money that they had asked the council for to pay for sewers,” Eduardo, owner of a sandwich bar, said. “Club and council have a very close relationship.” Like most locals, he is pleased that Guimarães is hosting two Euro 2004 games, but he thinks it’s wrong to build so many new stadiums. “But there are so many things to get worked up about in Portugal, I’m not going to demonstrate about this,” he said.

Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,27-707211,00.html

Whatta you guys think about this?

Originally posted by calve11
Dude, all I did was take the trophies from www.sl-benfica.com and put them in my sig, now stop being such a bitch that resorts to lame responses because you know nothing about football. :rolleyes: You're so pathetic. Anyways why would you be arguing with me about how many trophies Benfica has? We are hands down the greatest team ever out of Portugal.


Well like i said one time that site is unofficial so take your conclusions. About Benfica being the greatest team ever in Portugal by hands down i think that deserves a laugh, cause everyone knows the diference in titles between the "3 grandes" is not that big and u also should know it... check my sig and compare to yours, you'll see that the diference is very short, comparing to what u say. ;) (of course without including the Iberian and Latin Cup cause they are not official...)

Originally posted by calve11
I don't understand this "Simulão" ****. FCP are the master divers and what the world saw at the UEFA final is what we were seeing all season. Deco especially.

Ok, you always say we don't stand a chance. Well I'll say something else. FCP don't stand a chance at repeating last years season. Just ask your very own Nuno Valente and Costinha. ;)

I agree with u about the UEFA Cup final but in another way, the world saw what we were seing all season, FCP the best team of Portugal and one of the best in Europe an also in the world, that diving story is only told by the people who are jealous of our titles so give me a break about that... About Benfica don't stand a chance u know why i say that, we have probably a better team than last year, your team is almost the same of the last year so take your conclusions... ;)

Benfica

Champion's Cup - 2
Portuguese Cup - 26
Portuguese Super Cup - 3
League Titles - 30


Dude that's 10 more trpohies than Porto...

Originally posted by calve11
This isn't about transfers, but I recently found this article.

June 09, 2003

Empty feelings after the event
By Alison Roberts



WHEN THE EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP IS over and the foreign fans have gone home, Portugal will be left not only with a hangover. It will also have ten new or refurbished stadiums, most of which are unlikely ever to be full again. The big three clubs will have no trouble filling their giant arenas for top games, and Boavista can pack in 30,000 for Oporto derbies. But in the other host cities, the outlook is rather different.
In Guimarães, 30 miles northeast of Oporto, Vitória are renowned for having among the most devoted of local fans. The town has none of the Benfica, Porto or Sporting Lisbon supporters’ clubs found in virtually every Portuguese town. But with a population of fewer than 60,000, Guimarães cannot hope to fill the 30,000-capacity Afonso Henriques Stadium to which finishing touches are now being put.

The highest attendance at a Vitória game in the past decade was less than 16,000, and the average gate last season was 9,000. Portuguese football federation officials say that they expect the tournament to whet the appetite of Portuguese fans and attendance at league games to surge in the seasons that follow.

“It was not the club’s decision to have a stadium with a 30,000 capacity,” Fernando Cruz Fernandes, Vitória’s director of sports facilities, said. “But we’re convinced that in the future, the new stadiums will be used by many more spectators because they offer comfort and safety that will attract more people.”

Vitória are trying to kick-start that process by marketing season tickets for fixed seats — a novelty here — on the assumption that demand will increase. “We’ve already felt that,” Fernandes said. “We’re very satisfied with the demand.”

Supporters seem more sceptical. “Gates will increase, but not in this first phase,” Idalécio Guimarães, an organiser of Insane Guys, a semi-official supporters’ association, said. “People will take a while to get used to the new season tickets.”

Officially, the stadium is being renovated and expanded, but this is practically a new construction. The pitch was lowered four feet to fit in extra seats, a giant new south stand was built, and everything other than the skeleton of the west and east stands is new. Including video and audio equipment and security systems, some €30.5 million (£19.8 million) is being spent on the project.

“It may be debatable whether all this sports infrastructure is needed, but the event will bring enormous advantages,” Fernandes said. “An event on this scale brings publicity for the region that would otherwise be difficult to achieve.”

Josías Carvalho, the council official overseeing the project, says voters are solidly behind it. “It’s a big financial effort, but that takes account of the fact that this is an area where people like football a lot,” he said.

Unlike in other Portuguese host cities, where the club is footing most of the bill, here the council is paying all but the 25 per cent supplied by central government. The project does include the redevelopment of areas around the stadium but many locals see the funding arrangement as yet another example of uncomfortably close links between politics and sport in the town.

“A few years ago, Vitória paid for fancy new lighting with money that they had asked the council for to pay for sewers,” Eduardo, owner of a sandwich bar, said. “Club and council have a very close relationship.” Like most locals, he is pleased that Guimarães is hosting two Euro 2004 games, but he thinks it’s wrong to build so many new stadiums. “But there are so many things to get worked up about in Portugal, I’m not going to demonstrate about this,” he said.

Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,27-707211,00.html

Whatta you guys think about this?

I think that article is based in statistics and that is not a valuable reason to say that the EURO-2004 stadiums are gonna be almost empty after the competition. Probably after the EURO the medium attendance at the stadiums is going to increase cause with better conditions the persons really want to go seing the games live... :D

Originally posted by calve11
Benfica

Champion's Cup - 2
Portuguese Cup - 26
Portuguese Super Cup - 3
League Titles - 30


Dude that's 10 more trpohies than Porto...

Benfica have 61 official trophies, FCP have 51, and Sporting 41. Do u think there's a lot of diference?? Well i think in the next years we can have more titles than Benfica, if we keep winning like in the last 20 years soon we'll be the portuguese club with more trophies. :rockman:

Barely anybody goes out to watch games live in Portugal. It's a shame...

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Benfica have 61 official trophies, FCP have 51, and Sporting 41. Do u think there's a lot of diference?? Well i think in the next years we can have more titles than Benfica, if we keep winning like in the last 20 years soon we'll be the portuguese club with more trophies. :rockman: LMAO! Good luck on the treble this year :D :p :crazyboy: :evil:


You still wondering why punkt wants to know where you got your crystal ball? :D

I just want to say it's a shame they took Simão's diapers... err... I mean... armband away from him. I think Simão has all rights to leave after that HUGE incident. He's as angry as one should be, so I hope he can take the issue to the international human rights comittee. :rolleyes:

Ah well, just to remind you of my post a couple weeks ago saying that Ricardo wasn't already signed. Man, Benfica can't even hire their own fans to play for them. :evil:
Seriously, give the kid some money, because he deserves it 100%. :hump:

As for Simão, he doesn't want to leave, he's just emotionally hurt. He's still the fan favourite and he'll be the captain in 1-3 years...


Well we got the Ricardo transfer all worked out, its now only the contract. I think SLB was trying to take advantage of what he stated earlier about him being a Benfiquista his entire life. I disagree with it and he should be paid very good. I seriously think he's still going to be our gk this season.

Originally posted by calve11
LMAO! Good luck on the treble this year :D :p :crazyboy: :evil:


You still wondering why punkt wants to know where you got your crystal ball? :D

U benfiquistas are all the same, can't you see that after the revolution of 1974 we are the biggest club in Portugal? BTW i don't need a crystal ball, only a blind person can't see that FCP is going to catch Benfica in titles in the next years, with this team i have reasons to believe that no one can stop us, and i'm not a fortuneteller... :p

Can't you see since Portugal was a country Benfica is the biggest team ever? Streaks come to an end, you think that Porto's gonna continue this streak forever. If you do, you know nothing, plain and simple ;) .

Originally posted by calve11
Can't you see since Portugal was a country Benfica is the biggest team ever? Streaks come to an end, you think that Porto's gonna continue this streak forever. If you do, you know nothing, plain and simple ;) .

I know much more about football then u, so don't come here trying me to teach some things. I know that Benfica was the best portuguese team in the 60's and the 70's, after that FC Porto is the best team in our country, that is the reality not an illusion. BTW i really think we'll keep winning in the next years cause we have a better president, better coach and also better team. (H)

Originally posted by calve11
Can't you see since Portugal was a country Benfica is the biggest team ever? Streaks come to an end, you think that Porto's gonna continue this streak forever. If you do, you know nothing, plain and simple ;) .
That's impossible to say because Porto has actually been around longer then Benfica anyway.

And also when Portugal became a country there was no soccer clubs lol, which makes your comment that much more stupid, and without further foundation. And how is this Porto thing a streak? Yeah they won, but it isn't a streak. When a team is better then you it's not considered a streak, it's considered a loss for your team, simply as that, deal with it.

Originally posted by calve11
Benfica

Champion's Cup - 2
Portuguese Cup - 26
Portuguese Super Cup - 3
League Titles - 30


Dude that's 10 more trpohies than Porto...
I say it's amazing that all of a sudden you have 26 Portuguese Cups, that kinda goes against that SO GOOD SLB SOURCE YOU FOUND YOURSELF IN YOUR SIG!!!:p ;) :D :crazyboy:

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
That's impossible to say because Porto has actually been around longer then Benfica anyway.

And also when Portugal became a country there was no soccer clubs lol, which makes your comment that much more stupid, and without further foundation. And how is this Porto thing a streak? Yeah they won, but it isn't a streak. When a team is better then you it's not considered a streak, it's considered a loss for your team, simply as that, deal with it.

Really nice comment, i think those benfiquistas don't put in their minds that at this moment Benfica is miles away from Porto. They have one big problem, they don't know how to deal with their losses, so i think they just have to face the reality and say that FCP is the biggest club in Portugal since the 80's.;)

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
That's impossible to say because Porto has actually been around longer then Benfica anyway.

And also when Portugal became a country there was no soccer clubs lol, which makes your comment that much more stupid, and without further foundation. And how is this Porto thing a streak? Yeah they won, but it isn't a streak. When a team is better then you it's not considered a streak, it's considered a loss for your team, simply as that, deal with it. Read you idiot, I said SINCE, not WHEN. Since Portugal has been a country (I was exaggerating, meaning EVER).


I know much more about football then u, so don't come here trying me to teach some things. I know that Benfica was the best portuguese team in the 60's and the 70's, after that FC Porto is the best team in our country, that is the reality not an illusion. BTW i really think we'll keep winning in the next years cause we have a better president, better coach and also better team. If you know a lot more you wouldn't be arguing with me about Portugal's most succesfull team, sob. You're an idiot! All I'm saying is that Benfica's the best team out of Portugal....EVER! So don't make **** up about the Portuguese Revolution, because the fact is you guys are still the SECOND best team in Portugal, face it, troll. Also what you think doesn't mean JACK ****, like I said, you guys are still 2nd.


You'll see FCP come crumbling down this year, mark my words...

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
I say it's amazing that all of a sudden you have 26 Portuguese Cups, that kinda goes against that SO GOOD SLB SOURCE YOU FOUND YOURSELF IN YOUR SIG!!!:p ;) :D :crazyboy:

It was much more easy if he had done a copy paste of his sig :p btw the source for that trophies is laughble.

Ok I changed my sig.. Now everyone should be happy since they care so much. Especially that Benfisportista Hugo (a mate told me about you :D )

Originally posted by calve11
Read you idiot, I said SINCE, not WHEN. Since Portugal has been a country (I was exaggerating, meaning EVER).


If you know a lot more you wouldn't be arguing with me about Portugal's most succesfull team, sob. You're an idiot! All I'm saying is that Benfica's the best team out of Portugal....EVER! So don't make **** up about the Portuguese Revolution, because the fact is you guys are still the SECOND best team in Portugal, face it, troll. Also what you think doesn't mean JACK ****, like I said, you guys are still 2nd.


You'll see FCP come crumbling down this year, mark my words...

U and the others benfiquistas only do that, insult when you don't have reason and don't know what to say. Keep that spirit, u will be much more years without winning any kind of trophies and i'll be here to see your club going into the bottom (even more?):p

Originally posted by calve11
Ok I changed my sig.. Now everyone should be happy since they care so much. Especially that Benfisportista Hugo (a mate told me about you :D )

Your sig is still wrong, Benfica have 23 Cups not 26. Nice sources u must have... :crazyboy:

Originally posted by [dfm]
U and the others benfiquistas only do that, insult when you don't have reason and don't know what to say. Keep that spirit, u will be much more years without winning any kind of trophies and i'll be here to see your club going into the bottom (even more?):p Actually I do have reasons, read them. I'm just insulting because I'm tired, got in a fight with my gf, and I have to go to work at 7 in the morning. :f***:

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
U benfiquistas are all the same,...

well, I think I disagree with that one...

Personally, I only care about what happens on the pitch....club politics, money issues, ancient history etc. I leave those discussions to those who want to waste their time talking about it..

I don't deny that Porto has the best team in Portugal, probably will again this year seeing how the transfer scene is turning out. I have to remain hopeful though..

Originally posted by calve11
Actually I do have reasons, read them. I'm just insulting because I'm tired, got in a fight with my gf, and I have to go to work at 7 in the morning. :f***:

Insulting the others is not the best away when u are discussing about football, i think u should review your comments. If u want to defend your club just do it, but in a reasonable way not insulting.

Originally posted by calve11
Read you idiot, I said SINCE, not WHEN. Since Portugal has been a country (I was exaggerating, meaning EVER).

"Since Portugal" means, when it started Benfica was automatically the biggest club. Since doesn't magically mean EVER now all of a sudden. You were better off admitting you were wrong.

Originally posted by calve11
Ok I changed my sig.. Now everyone should be happy since they care so much. Especially that Benfisportista Hugo (a mate told me about you :D )
Whoa, let's bring up the Benfisportista comment I've only heard so many times, and a word that I haven't described myself as for months. Get over it man, plus you don't even know the full story, so just keep out of it, don't try and fix your arguement through my mistakes on a different forum.

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
Whoa, let's bring up the Benfisportista comment I've only heard so many times, and a word that I haven't described myself as for months. Get over it man, plus you don't even know the full story, so just keep out of it, don't try and fix your arguement through my mistakes on a different forum.


Eh, when I read the name Hugo I thought it was meant for me. Was wondering what went through calve's head to call me that... :confused:


Well, anyway, isn't that Simão an annoying little brat? It's not about him being a Benfica player or whatever, it's about being the most self-centered prima-donna since Capucho. And what's with him accusing Helder, a true leader and someone that played for that club when he was just a baby, of manipulating his team mates?? HELLO??? Maybe he does have lots of influence over them - a very good reason to be the team's captain, imho.

Enough of that. So, will Deco leave for Barça or what? :lui:

Dude I was exaggerating, you don't have to take all the definitions and **** into account. Anyways I had to mention the Benfisportista thing, it's new to me and I found it funny. From Benfisportista to anti-Benfica in months... that's great!


Benfica's now looking at a couple left backs. Athirson, Gustavo Nery, Gilberto and Leandro are all possible reinforcements. All of them are good, I was hoping it was going to be Athirson but we won't get him off Juventus.

Originally posted by INFESTA
Eh, when I read the name Hugo I thought it was meant for me. Was wondering what went through calve's head to call me that... :confused:


Well, anyway, isn't that Simão an annoying little brat? It's not about him being a Benfica player or whatever, it's about being the most self-centered prima-donna since Capucho. And what's with him accusing Helder, a true leader and someone that played for that club when he was just a baby, of manipulating his team mates?? HELLO??? Maybe he does have lots of influence over them - a very good reason to be the team's captain, imho.

Enough of that. So, will Deco leave for Barça or what? :lui: Nope not to you man. I was pissed yesterday anyways, I think taking my anger out on the computer isn't the best way to do it... :p

Yeah Simão doesn't have the best attitude, but he's still young and I think, hope he'll grow out of it. I agree with you about Hélder, he should be the captain and I find it hard to believe he would 'fix' the election. I read that Simão and Hélder aren't pissed at eachother anymore, and I hope so because we can't have this stupid **** affecting our play especially because of the CL qualifiers. Soon after this the ridiculous rumours of Simão wanting to leave flew, but he published on his website that he wants to stay and he's having a great time with Benfica.

About Deco, he'll only leave if FCP receive an offer of around 23-30 Million Euros. I heard a Riquelme swap was in the cards but this will be confusing because Deco's agent owns 50% of his pass, correct?

It may be blasphemy, but I've never been a huge fan of Simao for various reasons.....anyhow, I still beleive that Mantorras is the real star of this team and hopefully we'll see some great things from him this season.

No, it wasn't from Benfisportista to Anti-Benfica in months.

I just had to have that Benfica label as the fact that my dad would beat me to death if he knew I was a Sportista. (Just like all the other crazy Benfiquistas would do to their sons:rolleyes: )

Originally posted by ::shinji::
It may be blasphemy, but I've never been a huge fan of Simao for various reasons.....anyhow, I still beleive that Mantorras is the real star of this team and hopefully we'll see some great things from him this season.
I know I mean, Mantorras is the one gettin all the herpes, how dare people say Simao is better!!;)

Calve, you gonna bitch at my rear end because I said something bad about Simao now? :p

Originally posted by calve11
Nope not to you man. I was pissed yesterday anyways, I think taking my anger out on the computer isn't the best way to do it... :p

Yeah Simão doesn't have the best attitude, but he's still young and I think, hope he'll grow out of it. I agree with you about Hélder, he should be the captain and I find it hard to believe he would 'fix' the election. I read that Simão and Hélder aren't pissed at eachother anymore, and I hope so because we can't have this stupid **** affecting our play especially because of the CL qualifiers. Soon after this the ridiculous rumours of Simão wanting to leave flew, but he published on his website that he wants to stay and he's having a great time with Benfica.

About Deco, he'll only leave if FCP receive an offer of around 23-30 Million Euros. I heard a Riquelme swap was in the cards but this will be confusing because Deco's agent owns 50% of his pass, correct?


R.I.P. VASQUES, one of the greatest players ( 5 violinos) that Portugal as ever seen:( :( :(

To stop all this argue about "who is the best" there's all the OFFICIALS trophys :


S.L.BENFICA :

CAMPEONATO DA 1ª LIGA : 35/36; 36/37; 37/38 (3)
CAMPEONATO NACIONAL/1ªLIGA/SUPERLIGA :41-42,42-43,44-45,49-50,54-55,56-57,59-60,60-61,62-63,63-64,64-65,66-67,67-68,68-69,70-71,71-72,72-73,74-75,75-76,76-77,80-81,82-83,83-84,86-87,88-89,90-91,93-94 (27)
TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 39-40,42-43,43-44,48-49,50-51,51-52,52-53,54-55,56-57,58-59,61-62,63-64,68-69,69-70,71-72,79-80,80-81,82-83,84-85,85-86,86-87,92-93,95-96 (23)
CAMPEONATO DE PORTUGAL : 29-30,30-31,34-35 (3)
SUPERTAÇA "CÂNDIDO DE OLIVEIRA": 79-80,84-85,88-89 (3)
EUROPEAN CHAMPION : 60-61,61-62 (2)
TAÇA LATINA :49-50 (1)
CAMPEONATO DE LISBOA : 1909-10,11-12,12-13,13-14,15-16,16-17,17-18,19-20,32-33,39-40 (10)


TOTAL DE TÍTULOS OFICIAIS : 72

AND NOW F.C.PORTO

CAMPEONATO DA 1ª LIGA : 34-35 (1)
CAMPEONATO NACIONAL/1ªLIGA/SUPERLIGA: 38-39,39-40,55-56,58-59,77-78,78-79,84-85,85-86,87-88,89-90,91-92,92-93,94-95,95-96,96-97,97-98,98-99,2002-03 (18)
TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 55-56,57-58,67-68,76-77,77-78,83-84,87-88,90-91,93-94,97-98,99-2000,2000-01,02-03 (13)
CAMPEONATO DE PORTUGAL :21-22,24-25,31-32,36-37 (4)
SUPERTAÇA "CÂNDIDO DE OLIVEIRA" : 80-81,82-83,83-84,85-86,89-90,90-91,92-93,93-94,95-96,97-98,98-99,2000-01 (12)
CAMPEONATO DO PORTO : 1914-15,15-16,16-17,18-19,19-20 (5)
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP : 86-87 (1)
EUROPEAN SUPERCUP :1987 (1)
INTERCONTINENTAL CUP : 1987 (1)
U.E.F.A. CUP : 2002-03 (1)

TOTAL TÍTULOS OFICIAIS : 56

SPORTING C.P.

CAMPEONATO NACIONAL/1ªLIGA/SUPERLIGA :40-41,43-44,46-47,47-48,48-49,50-51,51-52,52-53,53-54,57-58,61-62,65-66,69-70,73-74,79-80,81-82,1999-2000,01-02 (18)
TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 40-41,44-45,45-46,47-48,53-54,62-63,70-71,72-73,73-74,81-82,94-95,2001-02 (12)
CAMPEONATO DE PORTUGAL : 22-23,33-34,35-36,37-38 (4)
SUPERTAÇA "CÂNDIDO DE OLIVEIRA" : 81-82,86-87,94-95,1999-2000,01-02 (5)
CAMPEONATO DE LISBOA : 14-15,18-19,21-22,22-23,24-25,25-26,27-28,30-31,33-34,34-35,35-36,36-37,37-38,38-39,40-41,41-42,42-43,44-45,46-47 (19)
CUP WINNERS CUP : 63-64 (1)


TOTAL TÍTULOS OFICIAIS : 59

C.F."OS BELENENSES"

CAMPEONATO NACIONAL/1ªLIGA/SUPERLIGA :45-46 (1)
TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 41-42,59-60,88-89, (3)
CAMPEONATO DE PORTUGAL : 26-27,28-29,32-33 (3)
CAMPEONATO DE LISBOA : 28-29,29-30,31-32,43-44,45-46 (5)


TOTAL DE TÍTULOS OFICIAIS : 12

Uribe signed for Moreirense :crazyboy:

remember him? lol

BOAVISTA F.C.

CAMPEONATO NACIONAL/1ªLIGA/SUPERLIGA : 2000-01 (1)
TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 74-75,75-76,78-79,91-92,96-97 (5)
SUPERTAÇA "CÂNDIDO DE OLIVEIRA" : 78-79,91-92,96-97 (3)
CAMPEONATO DO PORTO : 13-14 (1)


TOTAL TÍTULOS OFICIAIS : 10

Originally posted by Punkt
Uribe signed for Moreirense :crazyboy:

remember him? lol

yEAH, HE WAS A JOKE (:crazyboy: :crazyboy: )

A.ACADÉMICA C.

TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 38-39 (1)

LEIXÕES S.C.

TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 60-61 (1)

V.F.C.SETÚBAL

TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 64-65,66-67 (2)
CAMPEONATO DE LISBOA : 26-27 (1)

TOTAL TÍTULOS OFICIAIS : 3

S.C.BRAGA

TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 65-66 (1)

C.F.ESTRELA DA AMADORA

TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 89-90 (1)

S.C.BEIRA-MAR

TAÇA DE PORTUGAL : 98-99 (1)

V.S.C.GUIMARÃES

SUPERTAÇA "CÂNDIDO DE OLIVEIRA" : 87-88 (1)

CARCAVELINHOS

CAMPEONATO DE PORTUGAL : 27-28 (1)
CAMPEONATO DE LISBOA : 1906-07,07-08,08-09 (3)

TOTAL TÍTULOS OFICIAIS : 4

S.C.OLHANENSE


CAMPEONATO DE PORTUGAL : 23-24 (1)

C.S.MARÍTIMO

CAMPEONATO DE PORTUGAL : 25-26 (1)

CASA PIA A.C.

CAMPEONATO DE LISBOA : 20-21,23-24 (2)

C.IMPÉRIO FUTEBOL

CAMPEONATO LISBOA :1910-11 (1)

SPORT PORTO E SALGUEIROS

CAMPEONATO DO PORTO : 17-18 (1)

S.C.ESPINHO

CAMPEONATO DO PORTO : 20-21(1)

Alvalade-XXI u must be crazy about that "official trophies", cause trophies like Campeonato do Porto and Campeonato de Lisboa are so official like Taça da Amizade... :rolleyes: if u check official websites about official trophies you will see that only Campeonato de Portugal, Campeonato da 1ª Liga/Campeonato da 1ª Divisão/Superliga, Taça de Portugal e Supertaça Când. de Oliveira are the "real trophies" in our country. If u get some real information in some websites about official portuguese competitions u won't say things like that. Also i have to say that Punkt sig is laughble, u all here are trying to create some trophies to add them to yours clubs... :p

Just to finish about the trophies here's the link to the site of FPF(Portuguese Football Federation) that gives me reason about this ;) http://www.fpf.pt/historial/provas_nacionais.html

BTW-Punkt in your sig it says Benfica's next friendly is the 17th, weren't they having a friendly against someone this weekend??

Originally posted by [dfm]
Alvalade-XXI u must be crazy about that "official trophies", cause trophies like Campeonato do Porto and Campeonato de Lisboa are so official like Taça da Amizade... :rolleyes: if u check official websites about official trophies you will see that only Campeonato de Portugal, Campeonato da 1ª Liga/Campeonato da 1ª Divisão/Superliga, Taça de Portugal e Supertaça Când. de Oliveira are the "real trophies" in our country. If u get some real information in some websites about official portuguese competitions u won't say things like that. Also i have to say that Punkt sig is laughble, u all here are trying to create some trophies to add them to yours clubs... :p

Just to finish about the trophies here's the link to the site of FPF(Portuguese Football Federation) that gives me reason about this ;) http://www.fpf.pt/historial/provas_nacionais.html

You must not forget that Campeonato de Liboa and Campeonato do porto were the 1st OFFICIAL club League structure in Portugal...in Lisbon it starts in 1906 and finish in 1947. They were OFFICIAL but now, they are closed, but they remain the first OFFICIAL Leagues in Portugal. From them then became the campeonato da Liga that enter the 2 best of Lisbon and Porto and others...but it doesn't had the League structure as we actually now. It was a sort of final phase of the Regional championships. The first Championship Portugal Wide was in 1938/39, when all the teams were put on only one competition all over the season, and it was creted the 2nd League too.

In the other hand, Campeonato de Portugal was a competition similar to Taça de Portugal that ends in the year of the born of Taça de portugal.All that trophyes were OFFICIALS...

If you want i can give all my web sources ( i own a huge database - about 80 gigabites- of all that kind of information)

Originally posted by [dfm]
Alvalade-XXI u must be crazy about that "official trophies", cause trophies like Campeonato do Porto and Campeonato de Lisboa are so official like Taça da Amizade... :rolleyes: if u check official websites about official trophies you will see that only Campeonato de Portugal, Campeonato da 1ª Liga/Campeonato da 1ª Divisão/Superliga, Taça de Portugal e Supertaça Când. de Oliveira are the "real trophies" in our country. If u get some real information in some websites about official portuguese competitions u won't say things like that. Also i have to say that Punkt sig is laughble, u all here are trying to create some trophies to add them to yours clubs... :p

Just to finish about the trophies here's the link to the site of FPF(Portuguese Football Federation) that gives me reason about this ;) http://www.fpf.pt/historial/provas_nacionais.html

and BTW , FPF give only informations about NATIONAL COMPETIONS!!!!

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
and BTW , FPF give only informations about NATIONAL COMPETIONS!!!!

We are talking about NATIONAL COMPETITIONS, not regional... :rolleyes: