Wow what a game ,we were down 2-0 at Milan and suddenly as soon as Ancellotti replace the overpaid Del piero ,Trezeguet scores one beautiful goal and the secon at the 90th minute by the best italian offensive midfield today ,thats right ,Antonio Conte .
Its funny how when Del piero was on ,I never heard his name once and then as soon as Trezeguet replaces him ,Trezguet scores .I hope in our next game against Milan ,Ancelotti will have the balls to put Kovacevic or Trezeguet instead of that overrated Del Piero .

what a tragic result for milan letting a 2-0 lead slip away, especially giving up the equalizer away in the 90'. i'm sure milan is dissapointed especially after losing in bologna in their last match.

Im a juventus fan and i gotta say that its great for us to get a point in milan ,cause its hard to beat the big clubs at their home .But Milan have some problem in defense ,other than maldini ,Costacurta wasnt great and Junior was also average .Our defense didnt play good either ,but we didnt have our best defensemens Ciro Ferrara and Paolo Montero .We didnt even had Zambrotta who is much better than that crap Bachini .I hope that Ancellotti will have the balls to bench Del Piero and put Trezeguet or Kovacevic on in our next game against Milan .After Del Piero was replaced by Trezeguet ,everything changed .You should of seen us at the bar as soon as Conte scored ,it was a riot ,all the screaming and yelling of joy ,thats what football/soccer is all about.

i think that trezeguet should start against the big clubs, but maybe bringing in del piero later in games in which juve is winning may help in bringing him back into form.

Milan were ripped off at the end- there was an unintentional handball in the box wen Shevchenko tried to cross the ball in - in WC98 when Chile VS Italy Baggio did the same thing - an unintentional handball was called and a penalty given.
But not against Juve -no penalty- wat a joke - they always need the ref to help them -how pathetic.
was a good game tho - milan jsu got ripped off by the ref against Juve - surprise surprise

[This message has been edited by Edmundo22 (edited 10-22-2000).]

The rules says that if a player intentionaly touches the ball with his hands than its a pk,if its not intentionally then it should be called .The juventus defensemen didnt intentionaly touched it so it shouldnt be a pk .

I meant if a player does not touch the ball with his hands unintentionally then it shouldnt be a pk .

Conte Italy's best offensive midfielder??? Besides the fact that he plays another role, even if he played offensive midfield, I see Totti and Fiore lying on the floor laughing their, well, boots off...

paolo if thats true
then the score at WC98 was Chile 2 v Italy 1
cos the chiliean defender did not intentinally touch the ball with his hand ..baggio kicked it into his hand.

Mistakes do happen .Why do you think Portugese players were upset when Xavier touched the ball in the penalty area??IT was because they said that he didnt intentionaly touch it .Refs arent perfect you know .

Totti is more of a striker than midfield ,I meant that he is Italy's best offensive central midfield .Fiore is not really offensive.Infact Conte has more goals than any other players in midfield for Italy.

yep mistakes do happen
im just pointing out that Juve didnt deserve the draw with Ac Milan ..and Italy didnt deserve the draw with Chile - it was the ref who helped those teams.

Fiore is not offensive...STOP POSTING IF THAT IS WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT ITALIAN FOOTBALL.

To Edmundo:Why did Milan deserve to win .Like i said b4 ,the defensemen of Juventus who touch the ball with his hands wasnt intentionally so it didnt deserve to be called as a pk .2nd ,Juventus deserved to have at least a draw ,overall Juve played better than Milan .

To Zambrotta :What the hell dont you understand ,i said that Conte is better in scoring than Fiore ,but i did not say that Conte is better overall than Fiore .If you look at both players statistics ,you will se that Conte has more goals .

You said: "Fiore is not really offensive" - this is wrong. Look who scored more goals last year and look who has by FAR more assists. Who is faster, can dribble and is younger?

I meant that he scores more goals than any other italian player in midfield .If you see Conte's goals last season(Including cup matches and international matches),he was in first place .

Zambrotta: u say that one of the reasons Fiore is better is because hes younger? Are u saying that Baresi sucked at the age of 36 or whatever just because he was old for soccer player? as far as im concerned, it doesnt matter how old u are....if ur good enough, age is not important

yeah, but there is no aspect in which Conte is better than Fiore - at least offensivley.

And if I have 2 equally skilled players, I'd rather go with the younger one. Nesta and Totti are 24, but they play with the wits of a veteran.

yeah i forgot that the Ref from WC98 who done the Chile Italy game was thrown out of fifa after that penalty kick that he gave to Italy.
ac milan were to complacent at the end juve deserved the draw.

[This message has been edited by Edmundo22 (edited 10-23-2000).]

yes i am a nig juve fan but they should start trezeguet and then sub in del piero. i think it will help him. i also think we got lucky and conte is great. but i think he grows more hair every year.

Finally someone else thinks bachini crap, but yeah it probably would be smarter to start trezeguet, but ancelotti should als o try different pairings like del piero + trezeguet, or pippo + trezeguet, we know that kovacevic + del piero work, same with pippo and kovacevic, but it is still early in the season and i still think that del piero will rise to become a starter and a leading goal scorer

and if you are on the superstitous side your right del piero with his hair long has not scored as much as he has with short hair

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