aparently the knee is not that bad

Different physios have different opinions.

Different managers too...

hey valioso can you post the link unless its in spanish:crazyboy:

Different owner too.....

Real Madrid bitches care more about a player that sells them 40.000 jerseys than someone who plays... Hey, I know Milito, trust me, he's alright, he can play. Madrid Greed...

So Madrid are in a hunt for a defender still? :confused:

Originally posted by harmattan
Real Madrid bitches care more about a player that sells them 40.000 jerseys than someone who plays... Hey, I know Milito, trust me, he's alright, he can play. Madrid Greed...

Cant believe you trust in what Independiente said, they was just angry cause are losing money.

Real Madrid did OK, cause Real Madrid play 70 matches per year. If in 3 medics revisions they found weird "things", they was not sure about his knee, they did took the correct decision.

Real Madrid should be ****ing stupid buying a player if they are not sure about his knee.

Real Madrid didnt wanted milito to sell shirts, RM wanted Milito to be a good defender. RM dont need players that are injured a whole year like Milito 2 years ago.

Argentinians say : "They bought Ronaldo so they musy but Milito now" is stupid , Ronaldo could be injured but RM still have Morientes Raul Guti Portillo for that position, if Milito is injured RM just have pavon

Independiente Staff acted so bad imho.

Originally posted by Crusad3r
Cant believe you trust in what Independiente said, they was just angry cause are losing money.

Real Madrid did OK, cause Real Madrid play 70 matches per year. If in 3 medics revisions they found weird "things", they was not sure about his knee, they did took the correct decision.

Real Madrid should be ****ing stupid buying a player if they are not sure about his knee.

Real Madrid didnt wanted milito to sell shirts, RM wanted Milito to be a good defender. RM dont need players that are injured a whole year like Milito 2 years ago.

Argentinians say : "They bought Ronaldo so they musy but Milito now" is stupid , Ronaldo could be injured but RM still have Morientes Raul Guti Portillo for that position, if Milito is injured RM just have pavon

Independiente Staff acted so bad imho.

Speak like that when you completely understand the situation. :| :|:kader:

First of all, the technicallity in Milito's medical was the knee which was examined in depth on the same machine used to check out Ronaldo. The results were superior to Ronaldo's. So why did Madrid sign Ronaldo and leave Milito out? Because there wasn't much financial gain to be made from Milito and the 4 million euros price tag was seen as too much of a risk for a player who wouldn't return any profit.

Milito picked up this injury 2 years ago, recovered, returned to football, won the Apertura 2002, won 4 Argentine caps and was named best footballer in Argentina for 2002. If ANY player managed to accomplish this, regardless of the cirumstances, they are worthy of a move abroad and too a big club.

Independiente lost money? He was sold to Zaragoza for the same amount Real Madrid were going to pay. :| Again, you know nothing about the situation.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by SnYper
Speak like that when you completely understand the situation. :| :|:kader:

First of all, the technicallity in Milito's medical was the knee which was examined in depth on the same machine used to check out Ronaldo. The results were superior to Ronaldo's. So why did Madrid sign Ronaldo and leave Milito out? Because there wasn't much financial gain to be made from Milito and the 4 million euros price tag was seen as too much of a risk for a player who wouldn't return any profit.

Milito picked up this injury 2 years ago, recovered, returned to football, won the Apertura 2002, won 4 Argentine caps and was named best footballer in Argentina for 2002. If ANY player managed to accomplish this, regardless of the cirumstances, they are worthy of a move abroad and too a big club.

Independiente lost money? He was sold to Zaragoza for the same amount Real Madrid were going to pay. :| Again, you know nothing about the situation.:rolleyes:
Well said.

LOL @Crusad3r

Are you all mad?

The Medic Test of Milito = Failed , so why Real Madrid must buy it ? Cause Ronaldo was bought in similar circunstances ? LOL 1st of all noone a **** about how was the revision medical of Ronaldo, Only Real Madrid know it.

This makes me sick cause everyone in Real Madrid wanted Milito, every ****ing Real Madrid fan was waiting to see Milito. Spanish TV showed when Florentino received the new of the failed medical test, and Florentino was very disapointed cause that. Real Madrid was happy with Milito, is a big player lost, he play for Argentina he is young and is VERY CHEAP. So if Real Madrid lost Milito is cause they dont wanna take the risk of having Milito and lose it cause a injury.

Real Madrid acted correctly with Milito, and took a big risk signing Ronaldo cause Real Madrid scores 30/40 goals per season, while Milito sorry, but he is not Ronaldo. Ronaldo deserve to takes any risk.

the 1st disapointed team here cause Milito is Real Madrid, so stop that , Independiente staff just talked like stupid hooligans.

I hope the best for Milito in Zaragoza, Independiente will get the same money maybe, yes but Independiente was angry cause they was fearing to get less money after the medical revision at Madrid.

Real Madrid acted correctly and is not forced to sign up a player that didnt passed the medical test. Real madrid now is in problems cause if wanna a good defender must spend more than 5€ millions that could cost Milito. and if u dont like B I G F U C K Y O U

And BTW Zaragoza signed Milito yes, but Milito still didnt visited Zaragoza to pass the medical test.

*edit, Milito this evening in Zaragoza but no news about the medical test.

Milito's injury is different from Ronaldo's one but it's true Real Madrid could have made the same that Zaragoza are going to do: if he gets an injury in the knee Independiente will pay his wage.
That's what they did with Ronaldo.

Originally posted by Crusad3r
Are you all mad?

The Medic Test of Milito = Failed , so why Real Madrid must buy it ? Cause Ronaldo was bought in similar circunstances ? LOL 1st of all noone a **** about how was the revision medical of Ronaldo, Only Real Madrid know it.

This makes me sick cause everyone in Real Madrid wanted Milito, every ****ing Real Madrid fan was waiting to see Milito. Spanish TV showed when Florentino received the new of the failed medical test, and Florentino was very disapointed cause that. Real Madrid was happy with Milito, is a big player lost, he play for Argentina he is young and is VERY CHEAP. So if Real Madrid lost Milito is cause they dont wanna take the risk of having Milito and lose it cause a injury.

Real Madrid acted correctly with Milito, and took a big risk signing Ronaldo cause Real Madrid scores 30/40 goals per season, while Milito sorry, but he is not Ronaldo. Ronaldo deserve to takes any risk.

the 1st disapointed team here cause Milito is Real Madrid, so stop that , Independiente staff just talked like stupid hooligans.

I hope the best for Milito in Zaragoza, Independiente will get the same money maybe, yes but Independiente was angry cause they was fearing to get less money after the medical revision at Madrid.

Real Madrid acted correctly and is not forced to sign up a player that didnt passed the medical test. Real madrid now is in problems cause if wanna a good defender must spend more than 5€ millions that could cost Milito. and if u dont like B I G F U C K Y O U
Man, you don't get it do you? How can they be right? RM bought Milito, then they said that his knee is ****ed up, so instead of signing him, they said to Independiente: "Milito is not fully fit, that's why we don't want to sign him, but he want him on loan".:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: . Yes RM asked him on loan, almost right after they cancelled the transfer. What does that say? It says that RM don't want to pay 4 million, but want to get the play for almost nothing and after a year, when they will have more money, buy a more known defender or buy him if he will be really great. But Independiente is not stupid and they didn't want to lose their player for atleast a year for nothing!

Crusad3r, your embarassing yourself. Quit while your ahead. Milito was in excellent physical condition, the only problem was the so-called knee problem Madrid's doctors found.

You answered proved why Madrid didn't buy him, he wouldn't return any revenue and the risk of injury was too much for Real Madrid. Whether or not Ronaldo got injured, Madrid would still sell plenty of his jerseys because of how marketable he is. Milito isn't and let's leave it at that.

I'm surprised a mod hasn't carded you, you have no intentions of putting together an argument, you just are looking to curse at people.:rolleyes:

Team A want to buy a player from Team B, in the medical revision the player from Team B is not OK for the Team A. so Team A refuse to buy that player fearing to buy a player that could be injured almost every season and to pay the wage of a injuried player it sux tbh(we have recent cases in R.Madrid like Alvaro or Prosinecki).

So Team A ask to have the player of Team B on loan, so if the player have medical problems Team A only will pay his wage one year, no more.

I think every team in the world should act like the Team A did. But the problem here is that Team A is called REAL MADRID, and dont care what they do, always there is ppl whining.

You all can say Real Madrid was stupid buying Ronaldo cause it was a big risk. This season he scored 30 goals between CL and spanish league.

You all can say that Real Madrid was stupid buyng Beckham cause is mainly for marketing and maybe was more needed a good defender.

But you all cant say R.Madrid refusing to buy Milito was stupid , sorry and the spanish press is agree with me, including the press from Barcelona LOL ! and if Barcelona press didnt make jokes about Real madrid is cause Real Madrid acted OK this time :)

Originally posted by Crusad3r

You all can say Real Madrid was stupid buying Ronaldo cause it was a big risk. This season he scored 30 goals between CL and spanish league.


so what if Milito has the best season of any defender next year...just like ronaldo did....but they didnt take ronaldo on loan

Maybe if you repeat it to yourself over and over it'll come true...

hehe, just kidding. RM probably aren't in the financial state to risk the loss of 5 million plus wages in case of an injury. Bottom line is it was RM's decision and weather it was right or not, they took it. I think Independiente made the right decision denying the loan and I'm sure Milito will do alright in Zaragoza.

Originally posted by tottiiii
so what if Milito has the best season of any defender next year...just like ronaldo did....but they didnt take ronaldo on loan

So you say if Real Madrid took the risk of buyng a player with medic problems, should do it every time, right?

Real Madrid took the risk cause Ronaldo recently was known as the best player of the world. Real Madrid didnt bought Ronaldo thinking in the marketing, Real Madrid got Ronaldo cause if he is a nice shape can score 30 goals in La Liga + 10 in CL , easily. Milito can do that ?

maybe there's more to it, but you have to admit Crusad3r's point makes sense.
I don't give a damn anyway, but Crusad3r basically said that he failed the medical and therefore they are not obligated to take the risk, it's irrelevant what they did with Ronaldo.
Makes sense to me.
What makes less sense is that they would dump him because he wasn't marketable. I think that's almost unbelievable, although you never know.
Even the cost of 4million seems cheap for a "player of the year".
Perhaps it just might be that the new coach did not want him and they looked for any excuse to null the contract. I am assuming this deal was made before the new coach came, although, come to think of it, Madrid don't seem to ask their coach's opinion which means I am writing crap.

I should stick to lambasting ManU.

Originally posted by Crusad3r
So you say if Real Madrid took the risk of buyng a player with medic problems, should do it every time, right?

Real Madrid took the risk cause Ronaldo recently was known as the best player of the world. Real Madrid didnt bought Ronaldo thinking in the marketing, Real Madrid got Ronaldo cause if he is a nice shape can score 30 goals in La Liga + 10 in CL , easily. Milito can do that ?

so Milito was injured the past 2-3 seasons and hardly played ?? surely he wasnt in as bad condition as Ronaldo..i know you were gonna say that about Ronaldo being a proven as one of the best players in the world and he is, but just like you say they took a risk on ronaldo b/c hes proven...Milito is very good im not saying in Ronaldo's caliber though, but looking at risk reward comparason...Milito wasnt as big of a risk as Ronaldo mainly b/c he wasnt injured nearly as bad as Ronaldo as well as being millions less than what Ronaldo cost them..i dont really know enough to say Madrid is at fault but its just a little fishy that there seems to be internal problems in madrid and then after announcing him they decide hes not fit enough to play....im not saying you are wrong in any matter...just saying its very hard to actually believe madrid or anyone else

no one knows what happened.. at first they said the knee.. then they said the heart.. then they said they would do more tests... and then they said they were not interested anymore.. for whatever the excuse..

Originally posted by Crusad3r
Team A want to buy a player from Team B, in the medical revision the player from Team B is not OK for the Team A. so Team A refuse to buy that player fearing to buy a player that could be injured almost every season and to pay the wage of a injuried player it sux tbh(we have recent cases in R.Madrid like Alvaro or Prosinecki).

So Team A ask to have the player of Team B on loan, so if the player have medical problems Team A only will pay his wage one year, no more.

I think every team in the world should act like the Team A did. But the problem here is that Team A is called REAL MADRID, and dont care what they do, always there is ppl whining.

SO, what do you think would Independiente get from that deal? Nothing, but losing one of their best players, now what would RM get from that deal? Probably some shirt sales and a great defender for free for a season.

Do you think Liverpool would win anything, if they would have loaned Michael Owen to Real Madrid? No, what about Real? THey would win a hell of a lot. Same with Milito. So, RM said that he didn't pass he test hoping that maybe Ind. would agree to loan him. I mean when you try to buy a player and then say that his knee with ****ed up, you don't try to get him on loan straight away. RM just wanted to get a good defender for nothing, but didn't work. Plus if Milito was the best defender in Argentina last year, then there was nothing wrong with his knee.

if he is not fit to play... then he is not fit to play wether paying him.. or on loan...

Originally posted by Help?
SO, what do you think would Independiente get from that deal? Nothing, but losing one of their best players, now what would RM get from that deal? Probably some shirt sales and a great defender for free for a season.

Do you think Liverpool would win anything, if they would have loaned Michael Owen to Real Madrid? No, what about Real? THey would win a hell of a lot. Same with Milito. So, RM said that he didn't pass he test hoping that maybe Ind. would agree to loan him. I mean when you try to buy a player and then say that his knee with ****ed up, you don't try to get him on loan straight away. RM just wanted to get a good defender for nothing, but didn't work. Plus if Milito was the best defender in Argentina last year, then there was nothing wrong with his knee.


Mate stop talking about the tshirts... there is no defenders in the world that sell more tshirts than Ronaldo Raul Beck, Zizou or figo, so really stop talking about Real Madrid. Do you think real madrid Cares if Milito or Cannavaro or Chivu or any defender is good for marketing, having 6 top world players in the team?

"RM just wanted to get a good defender for nothing, but didn't work"

This makes me laugh, sorry. Real Madrid is looking for a nice replacemente for Fernando Hierro since a lot of years ago. and do you think R.Madrid did not wanted to pay 5€ millions? It could be the cheapest transfer of Real Madrid in 4 or 5 years.

I think this is very easy, Milito signs a contract with R.Madrid for 5 years. What happen if that player is injured 2 or 3 years? As i told you we had some players with that problems some years ago. And that players was a big problem for Real Madrid, so this time Real Madrid prefered to avoid that.

Im 100% sure everyone in Real Madrid wanted Milito , especially costing only 5€ million.

The way i see it is that Real want top clas players in top form. So maybe Milito's knee was not good enough for them but good enouygh for Zaragoza. Shows the difference in class and expectations. Madrid want to win the CL and La Liga and if they need a neew defender to replace Hierro then they want someone in tip-top shape.

Originally posted by mufc_daddy
The way i see it is that Real want top clas players in top form. So maybe Milito's knee was not good enough for them but good enouygh for Zaragoza. Shows the difference in class and expectations. Madrid want to win the CL and La Liga and if they need a neew defender to replace Hierro then they want someone in tip-top shape.

but he was in good enough form to get him on loan..

Yeh thats odd.

Originally posted by Crusad3r
Mate stop talking about the tshirts... there is no defenders in the world that sell more tshirts than Ronaldo Raul Beck, Zizou or figo, so really stop talking about Real Madrid. Do you think real madrid Cares if Milito or Cannavaro or Chivu or any defender is good for marketing, having 6 top world players in the team?

"RM just wanted to get a good defender for nothing, but didn't work"

This makes me laugh, sorry. Real Madrid is looking for a nice replacemente for Fernando Hierro since a lot of years ago. and do you think R.Madrid did not wanted to pay 5€ millions? It could be the cheapest transfer of Real Madrid in 4 or 5 years.

I think this is very easy, Milito signs a contract with R.Madrid for 5 years. What happen if that player is injured 2 or 3 years? As i told you we had some players with that problems some years ago. And that players was a big problem for Real Madrid, so this time Real Madrid prefered to avoid that.

Im 100% sure everyone in Real Madrid wanted Milito , especially costing only 5€ million.
No, actually you started it. And if you said, weather Madrid cares about shirts or not, then the answer is no doubt "YES". Even their chairman said that he wants to buy 1 big name player per year, which means he wants to buy mostly players that sell shirts. And it doesn't matter if the player is bigger than Beckham, Raul, Zidane etc, aslong as he sells lots of shirts also. That's what Madrid wants.


RM does care if they get a big name player or not. They do care if they get Cannavaro or Nesta and it does matters to them. RM still haven't really give a good reason why they cancelled the deal. You are saying that Real doesn't want to risk 5 million for the best defender in argentina, that had a year long injury 3 years ago? Well, what is 5 million? They will get almost twice of that in 8 days in their Asia tour, while they spend 40, 50 and 60 million on others.


BTW what great player signed for Madrid a couple of years ago and had a 2-3 year long injury?

Originally posted by Help?
No, actually you started it. And if you said, weather Madrid cares about shirts or not, then the answer is no doubt "YES". Even their chairman said that he wants to buy 1 big name player per year, which means he wants to buy mostly players that sell shirts. And it doesn't matter if the player is bigger than Beckham, Raul, Zidane etc, aslong as he sells lots of shirts also. That's what Madrid wants.


RM does care if they get a big name player or not. They do care if they get Cannavaro or Nesta and it does matters to them. RM still haven't really give a good reason why they cancelled the deal. You are saying that Real doesn't want to risk 5 million for the best defender in argentina, that had a year long injury 3 years ago? Well, what is 5 million? They will get almost twice of that in 8 days in their Asia tour, while they spend 40, 50 and 60 million on others.


BTW what great player signed for Madrid a couple of years ago and had a 2-3 year long injury?

Make no sense to talk with you, since your arguments are stupid. i wont repeat my arguments again.

Valioso and MFUC_daddy: yes its weird R.Madrid request to have Milito on loan. Maybe cause

A) Real Madrid wanted Milito just one year to see the response of his knee after a whole season (70 matches in a year), if the response is OK RM can think about buying Milito, if the response is no good Real Madrid is not forced to pay Milito`s wage anymore cause Milito stay just one year in Real Madrid.

B) Real Madrid was not totally sure about the perfomance of Milito in the spanish league, so it asked only to have it on loan to see his perfomance.

C) Real Madrid wanted to save money ¿?

Personally i saw the face of Florentino Perez when he received the new of the failed medical test of Milito, and it was like "OMG! how unlucky we are! what a big problem now :/" So personally i Choose the case A, and who knows maybe B too, but thats something Real Madrid know.

I didn't read the entire post (couldn't be bothered) but you have some interesting logic here...

Argentinians say : "They bought Ronaldo so they musy but Milito now" is stupid , Ronaldo could be injured but RM still have Morientes Raul Guti Portillo for that position, if Milito is injured RM just have pavon

If you say that Real bought Ronaldo and even if he gets injured then they have backup...then why WOULDN'T they buy a defender? Cuz right now they have no-one (and hence no backup anyway)...understand my point?

lets see who they buy...im sure they will get someone....not that im concerned with the well being of that team....Lucio still seems like a good fit....but it would cost them a lot of money

I don't get the point arguing-a player was not found fully fit in medical tests,so he was rejected.Is it because there's Real Madrid involved?So,would you make this fuss if,instead of RM,the team was called e.g. "Local Pub FC" or something?It's not the first time transfers get called off because of this.And the fact Milito signed for Zaragoza means nothing,since Zaragoza is certainly not a top team and has less demands for the players they buy.And it's at least funny to compare the best forward in the world(Ronaldo) with a good and promising defender.