sunday the portuguese superliga will have another big classic: porto vs benfica (the last to be played at estádio das antas.)
post here your bets and thoughts about the game and the two teams.:hump:

Porto has only been impressive vs. Sporting recently, and during part of the Milan game....so if we play well, our defence doesn't fall asleep, and McCarthy continues to be a lazy bastard, then I think we can sneak away with a draw....hopefully...

Keep dreaming... FC Porto in home games is an impressive team. Most of the FC Porto games this year was away and we aren't in our best perfomance yet outdoors, but in our house we crush all the teams, Benfica will be the next victim. My prediction 4-0. And btw McCarthy can't play he was punished for 2 games.

ATM Porto is obsviouly the best team (even not playing very well in some games) but that do not gives us the victory so i think we have to play as a team like last year in some important games. Benfica's team is good but not enough to beat us, i think at our home we can't lose any point against our main rivals.
I don't like to predict the result of the games but one think i can say for sure, i think Porto will win this game if he plays at his "normal" level, of course i would like to crush Benfica :p but i don't mind if we win just for one single goal, what counts in this games is the victory and the 3 points. ;)

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Keep dreaming... FC Porto in home games is an impressive team. Most of the FC Porto games this year was away and we aren't in our best perfomance yet outdoors, but in our house we crush all the teams, Benfica will be the next victim. My prediction 4-0. And btw McCarthy can't play he was punished for 2 games.
I wonder how sad can you get ? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
And btw McCarthy can't play he was punished for 2 games.

Oh yeah, for being a violent piece of sh!t.....I forgot about that!

I can see the game ending 2-2. BUT, with Luisao and Rocha doing the only work for Benfica's defence I say 4-3 Porto.

Originally posted by Tiago_10
I wonder how sad can you get ? :rolleyes:

I'm being realistic. Benfica has no chances to even draw. They will be crushed. I don't know if we'll won 4-0 but at least Benfica will pass a bad time, i still believe that if Porto plays in his best performance we can score 4 goals. Now i say HOW SAD CAN YOU GET? :rockman:

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Oh yeah, for being a violent piece of sh!t.....I forgot about that!

Wrong ::shinji::

Any fouls against:

Beto
JVP
Simulao
Tiago (FCP)
Miss Nuno Gomes

are more than justified.


That is all.

«No FC Porto vale tudo. Quando têm um adversário de valor como o Benfica, são exímios a produzir um clima hostil. Foi o caso do jogo em 91, que se revestia de grande importância. Estava em causa a luta pelo título e eles prepararam tudo de maneira a intimidar o Benfica. Não podíamos respirar no balneário, porque tinham despejado lá um produto tóxico. Mas no fim tramaram-se... Foi uma grande alegria para todos nós!»

César Brito

«Tivemos de nos equipar no corredor, porque dentro do balneário não se conseguia estar. Eles tinham espalhado ácido nos esgotos e, estranhamente, as janelas não se podiam abrir. Saímos todos com irritação na vista. Nas paredes da cabina e do túnel de acesso ao campo havia umas fitas pretas e vermelhas impregnadas de um líquido mal cheiroso.»

Pacheco

«Em 1991 ganhámos o jogo mas, dentro e fora do campo, tivemos uma tarde complicada. Viveu-se um ambiente de terror em volta do espectáculo. O nosso balneário tinha sido infestado com um produto irritante, havia patas de galinha e um guarda quezilento que dava pelo nome de Abel... No final do encontro, o Fezas Vital [antigo presidente e, na altura, responsável pela Comissão Central] e o vice-presidente Jorge de Brito tiveram de sair disfarçadamente do estádio dentro duma ambulância! Eu assisti ao jogo na companhia do Rui Bento. Destinaram-nos um camarote mal situado e de condições precárias. Fomos agredidos verbalmente durante todo o encontro. Quando o Benfica marcou o segundo golo, virei-me para o Rui e disse-lhe: «eh pá, vamos embora antes que isto dê para o torto...»

José Carlos


mais palavras para que?

fonte: www.slbenfica.pt

Originally posted by PortoMarco
Wrong ::shinji::

Any fouls against:

Beto
JVP
Simulao
Tiago (FCP)
Miss Nuno Gomes

are more than justified.


That is all.
No wonder our league is in such bad shape. No foul is "justified," simply because of the player.:kader:

Oh no, it's big bad Porto. Honestly all these comments make me sick, including some made by Benfiquistas. I can see the same happening from last season, the ref blatantly robbing Benfica, but if it's not that I think we can have a win/draw.

Originally posted by Punkt
«No FC Porto vale tudo. Quando têm um adversário de valor como o Benfica, são exímios a produzir um clima hostil. Foi o caso do jogo em 91, que se revestia de grande importância. Estava em causa a luta pelo título e eles prepararam tudo de maneira a intimidar o Benfica. Não podíamos respirar no balneário, porque tinham despejado lá um produto tóxico. Mas no fim tramaram-se... Foi uma grande alegria para todos nós!»

César Brito

«Tivemos de nos equipar no corredor, porque dentro do balneário não se conseguia estar. Eles tinham espalhado ácido nos esgotos e, estranhamente, as janelas não se podiam abrir. Saímos todos com irritação na vista. Nas paredes da cabina e do túnel de acesso ao campo havia umas fitas pretas e vermelhas impregnadas de um líquido mal cheiroso.»

Pacheco

«Em 1991 ganhámos o jogo mas, dentro e fora do campo, tivemos uma tarde complicada. Viveu-se um ambiente de terror em volta do espectáculo. O nosso balneário tinha sido infestado com um produto irritante, havia patas de galinha e um guarda quezilento que dava pelo nome de Abel... No final do encontro, o Fezas Vital [antigo presidente e, na altura, responsável pela Comissão Central] e o vice-presidente Jorge de Brito tiveram de sair disfarçadamente do estádio dentro duma ambulância! Eu assisti ao jogo na companhia do Rui Bento. Destinaram-nos um camarote mal situado e de condições precárias. Fomos agredidos verbalmente durante todo o encontro. Quando o Benfica marcou o segundo golo, virei-me para o Rui e disse-lhe: «eh pá, vamos embora antes que isto dê para o torto...»

José Carlos


mais palavras para que?

fonte: www.slbenfica.pt

Coitadinhos dos meninos. Não se devem lembrar do que já nos fizeram na Luz, dessas não falam. Ainda aqui à tempos o Pôncio Monteiro contou uma bem forte. Até parece que a Luz é o céu. Os adeptos do Benfica foram os únicos que matram adeptos de outras equipas até ao momento e quase mataram a equipa de hóquei do FC Porto à pedrada e bastonada. Tenham vergonha. Só fala quem tem que se lhe diga...

Originally posted by calve11
Oh no, it's big bad Porto. Honestly all these comments make me sick, including some made by Benfiquistas. I can see the same happening from last season, the ref blatantly robbing Benfica, but if it's not that I think we can have a win/draw.

What a losers... same argument every year. Last year Benfica was crushed in Antas and in Luz but like you had no arguments you had to talk about the referree... Benfica will be crushed again this year.

Originally posted by Punkt
«No FC Porto vale tudo. Quando têm um adversário de valor como o Benfica, são exímios a produzir um clima hostil. Foi o caso do jogo em 91, que se revestia de grande importância. Estava em causa a luta pelo título e eles prepararam tudo de maneira a intimidar o Benfica. Não podíamos respirar no balneário, porque tinham despejado lá um produto tóxico. Mas no fim tramaram-se... Foi uma grande alegria para todos nós!»

César Brito

«Tivemos de nos equipar no corredor, porque dentro do balneário não se conseguia estar. Eles tinham espalhado ácido nos esgotos e, estranhamente, as janelas não se podiam abrir. Saímos todos com irritação na vista. Nas paredes da cabina e do túnel de acesso ao campo havia umas fitas pretas e vermelhas impregnadas de um líquido mal cheiroso.»

Pacheco

«Em 1991 ganhámos o jogo mas, dentro e fora do campo, tivemos uma tarde complicada. Viveu-se um ambiente de terror em volta do espectáculo. O nosso balneário tinha sido infestado com um produto irritante, havia patas de galinha e um guarda quezilento que dava pelo nome de Abel... No final do encontro, o Fezas Vital [antigo presidente e, na altura, responsável pela Comissão Central] e o vice-presidente Jorge de Brito tiveram de sair disfarçadamente do estádio dentro duma ambulância! Eu assisti ao jogo na companhia do Rui Bento. Destinaram-nos um camarote mal situado e de condições precárias. Fomos agredidos verbalmente durante todo o encontro. Quando o Benfica marcou o segundo golo, virei-me para o Rui e disse-lhe: «eh pá, vamos embora antes que isto dê para o torto...»

José Carlos


mais palavras para que?

fonte: www.slbenfica.pt

Quem ler isto até pensa que o Porto e os seus adeptos são o diabo à face da terra e que o Benfica e sua "gente" são todos uns santinhos (que só lhes falta as auréolas :crazyboy: ). Enfim, sempre que o FCP joga com o SLB lá têm eles de vir com estas conversas da treta, o Porto faz isto, faz aquilo, mas curiosamente eles até ganharam esse jogo (com uma sorte incrível diga-se de passagem) e acabaram por ser campeões esse ano... Pq será que vocês não conseguem manter a conversa a nível de futebol jogado apenas? Será que com tantos anos de jejum não têm mais nada que fazer senão recordar as vossas vitórias da treta e forjar factos para nos fazer passar como mal-feitores?

Another thread heading nowhere?...

About the game:

Benfica playing in defence like against Belenenses, losing 7-0 would be because Porto weren't in their days.

But if those defensive mistakes are overwritten, then I can say Benfica could fight for the result.

Mouta: I would only use the word 'crush' after the game. No matter whats the team that wins. If you prefer to use it before the game, then you will have to hold the 'weight' of that after the match. Porto may win, just like Benfica, but crush... maybe after the match, not before.

Originally posted by 3m1n3m
Another thread heading nowhere?...

About the game:

Benfica playing in defence like against Belenenses, losing 7-0 would be because Porto weren't in their days.

But if those defensive mistakes are overwritten, then I can say Benfica could fight for the result.

Mouta: I would only use the word 'crush' after the game. No matter whats the team that wins. If you prefer to use it before the game, then you will have to hold the 'weight' of that after the match. Porto may win, just like Benfica, but crush... maybe after the match, not before.

That's the way man, we have to discuss just about FOOTBALL, not some less important things that some people gives more value than the game played in the pitch. :rolleyes:
BTW, i have to tell u that you're one of the most honest and realistic persons around here, congratulations for that (i really mean that, i'm not being sarcastic). ;) (H)

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
What a losers... same argument every year. Last year Benfica was crushed in Antas and in Luz but like you had no arguments you had to talk about the referree... Benfica will be crushed again this year.

benfica was crushed last year? what game are you talking about?
last year was 2-1 and two years ago 3-2. i don't see any crushing here...

I personally love this thread. (H)

Originally posted by Punkt
benfica was crushed last year? what game are you talking about?
last year was 2-1 and two years ago 3-2. i don't see any crushing here...

The result means nothing. If you remember Porto missed a lot of goals. FC Porto can crush like last year in Luz and Alvade and only score 1 goal...

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
The result means nothing. If you remember Porto missed a lot of goals. FC Porto can crush like last year in Luz and Alvade and only score 1 goal...


ahaha crushing is a 5 or 6-0 result not a 2-1 result. porto missed a lot of goals? why they didn't score if they crush like you said? last year game was pretty closed until the referee sent off eder in that pathetic decision...

the history tells that the result was 2-1. if porto crushed or not is just your personal opinion...

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
I'm being realistic.

i think that in football this word doesn't exist. before the world cup i could say that france will get at least to the semifinals and i was being realistic...

football doesn't have logic.:boyaka:

Originally posted by Punkt
ahaha crushing is a 5 or 6-0 result not a 2-1 result. porto missed a lot of goals? why they didn't score if they crush like you said? last year game was pretty closed until the referee sent off eder in that pathetic decision...

the history tells that the result was 2-1. if porto crushed or not is just your personal opinion...

Why don't you talk about the game of Luz and Alvalade...?

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Why don't you talk about the game of Luz and Alvalade...?

benfica lost. porto didn't crush... if geovanni scored in that big chance in the beginning of the second half the history would be different... but porto's victory was fair...

like i've said to you porto won 1-0... the crush thing is your opinion...

Why wont you speak also about the fake dive of Deco(?) that made Eder be badly expelled and which freekick gave you the victory goal with a stupid mistake from Moreira?

Mouta don't forget Porto had at LEAST a man advantage in both games for enough time(combined from both games) to have played against a ten man side for 1 entire game, and still couldn't get more then 2 goals... which IMO is a little bit pathetic.

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
Mouta don't forget Porto had at LEAST a man advantage in both games for enough time(combined from both games) to have played against a ten man side for 1 entire game, and still couldn't get more then 2 goals... which IMO is a little bit pathetic.

Did you forgot the penalties last year in Alvalade and this year in Antas?

Originally posted by Virgo
Why wont you speak also about the fake dive of Deco(?) that made Eder be badly expelled and which freekick gave you the victory goal with a stupid mistake from Moreira?

And why don't you talk about the other players that weren't sented off by tackling DECO several times...

Originally posted by Punkt
«No FC Porto vale tudo. Quando têm um adversário de valor como o Benfica, são exímios a produzir um clima hostil. Foi o caso do jogo em 91, que se revestia de grande importância. Estava em causa a luta pelo título e eles prepararam tudo de maneira a intimidar o Benfica. Não podíamos respirar no balneário, porque tinham despejado lá um produto tóxico. Mas no fim tramaram-se... Foi uma grande alegria para todos nós!»

César Brito

«Tivemos de nos equipar no corredor, porque dentro do balneário não se conseguia estar. Eles tinham espalhado ácido nos esgotos e, estranhamente, as janelas não se podiam abrir. Saímos todos com irritação na vista. Nas paredes da cabina e do túnel de acesso ao campo havia umas fitas pretas e vermelhas impregnadas de um líquido mal cheiroso.»

Pacheco

«Em 1991 ganhámos o jogo mas, dentro e fora do campo, tivemos uma tarde complicada. Viveu-se um ambiente de terror em volta do espectáculo. O nosso balneário tinha sido infestado com um produto irritante, havia patas de galinha e um guarda quezilento que dava pelo nome de Abel... No final do encontro, o Fezas Vital [antigo presidente e, na altura, responsável pela Comissão Central] e o vice-presidente Jorge de Brito tiveram de sair disfarçadamente do estádio dentro duma ambulância! Eu assisti ao jogo na companhia do Rui Bento. Destinaram-nos um camarote mal situado e de condições precárias. Fomos agredidos verbalmente durante todo o encontro. Quando o Benfica marcou o segundo golo, virei-me para o Rui e disse-lhe: «eh pá, vamos embora antes que isto dê para o torto...»

José Carlos


mais palavras para que?

fonte: www.slbenfica.pt

É o que tenho dito ultimamente neste e noutros foruns, nomeadamente as pressões a que estão sujeitos os árbitros. Conheço alguns ex-árbitros e ex-fiscias de linha que falam do clima de imposição psicológica a que estão sujeitos...episódios como esses são frequentemente ocultados pelas "belas peças jornalísticas" made in Portugal. Basta ver a influência que o FC Porto tem a nível dos "mídia", especialmente no Canal 1 Desporto e Sport Tv ( e últimamente na TVI), onde tentou-se "santificar", despudoradamente, a atitude de Benny McCarthy no jogo com o Sporting. Outras situações que foram "meticulosamente" ignoradas (salvo a SIC), têm a ver com atitudes anti-desportivas praticadas pela generalidade dos atletas do FC Porto, que acreditam ter "salvo-conduto" para a prática da sua enorme panóplia de comportamentos violentos ( vide os casos Rochemback, Jorge Costa, João Paulo, e a impunidade que esses atletas granjeiam por esse país fora)

Resta-me dizer que, provavelmente, serei banido deste forum, mas tal não me impedirá de voltar com outros "nicks" e IP's. Agora naõ tenho dúvidas que existe muita descriminação xenófoba neste forum, visto que a maior parte dos moderadores não passam de adolescentes sem a mínima noção de justiça.

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
É o que tenho dito ultimamente neste e noutros foruns, nomeadamente as pressões a que estão sujeitos os árbitros. Conheço alguns ex-árbitros e ex-fiscias de linha que falam do clima de imposição psicológica a que estão sujeitos...episódios como esses são frequentemente ocultados pelas "belas peças jornalísticas" made in Portugal. Basta ver a influência que o FC Porto tem a nível dos "mídia", especialmente no Canal 1 Desporto e Sport Tv ( e últimamente na TVI), onde tentou-se "santificar", despudoradamente, a atitude de Benny McCarthy no jogo com o Sporting. Outras situações que foram "meticulosamente" ignoradas (salvo a SIC), têm a ver com atitudes anti-desportivas praticadas pela generalidade dos atletas do FC Porto, que acreditam ter "salvo-conduto" para a prática da sua enorme panóplia de comportamentos violentos ( vide os casos Rochemback, Jorge Costa, João Paulo, e a impunidade que esses atletas granjeiam por esse país fora)

Resta-me dizer que, provavelmente, serei banido deste forum, mas tal não me impedirá de voltar com outros "nicks" e IP's. Agora naõ tenho dúvidas que existe muita descriminação xenófoba neste forum, visto que a maior parte dos moderadores não passam de adolescentes sem a mínima noção de justiça.

You showed the guy you are, now i had nothing more to say just that Infesta or other mod should make some about guys like you. And i got a card because of you...

Mouta, we're talking about FCP not SCP, remember that, you might seem able to mount a good arguement next time.

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
You showed the guy you are, now i had nothing more to say just that Infesta or other mod should make some about guys like you. And i got a card because of you...
You got a card because you nearly egged him on. If you just ignored him, you wouldn't have a card right now.

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
You showed the guy you are, now i had nothing more to say just that Infesta or other mod should make some about guys like you. And i got a card because of you...

Ok, i ask moderators to retire your Yellow card, i cannot read your tears anymore

Originally posted by ALVALADE-XXI
É o que tenho dito ultimamente neste e noutros foruns, nomeadamente as pressões a que estão sujeitos os árbitros. Conheço alguns ex-árbitros e ex-fiscias de linha que falam do clima de imposição psicológica a que estão sujeitos...episódios como esses são frequentemente ocultados pelas "belas peças jornalísticas" made in Portugal. Basta ver a influência que o FC Porto tem a nível dos "mídia", especialmente no Canal 1 Desporto e Sport Tv ( e últimamente na TVI), onde tentou-se "santificar", despudoradamente, a atitude de Benny McCarthy no jogo com o Sporting. Outras situações que foram "meticulosamente" ignoradas (salvo a SIC), têm a ver com atitudes anti-desportivas praticadas pela generalidade dos atletas do FC Porto, que acreditam ter "salvo-conduto" para a prática da sua enorme panóplia de comportamentos violentos ( vide os casos Rochemback, Jorge Costa, João Paulo, e a impunidade que esses atletas granjeiam por esse país fora)

Resta-me dizer que, provavelmente, serei banido deste forum, mas tal não me impedirá de voltar com outros "nicks" e IP's. Agora naõ tenho dúvidas que existe muita descriminação xenófoba neste forum, visto que a maior parte dos moderadores não passam de adolescentes sem a mínima noção de justiça.

great theory m8, i think u should offer yourself to help Nuno Markl in "O homem da conspiração" from Sic Radical... :rolleyes:

btw go check what "xenofobia" means in the diccionary

about the game, i'm not very pleased with the latest porto performance against Partizan, i hope they improve against benfica, i believe they will. my prediction: a win to porto naturally
;) , the result doesn't matter, could even be by just one goal...
trully i don't really think that benfica can win, maybe a draw if they play VERY well, or if porto makes another crappy game...

and i just hope i can see the game on the telly, the cable guys should be here saturday morning to install the sporttv :D

And again one thread become off-topic thanks to the "usual" persons, let's keep the discussion only at the football level (i know it's hard for some people since they have nothing more to say than some stupid bullsh*ts).

Also i want to say one more thing, crush a team is not only scoring 4 or 5 goals, one team can crush another (means much more attacks, shots, ball possesion, corners, crosses, etc) and only score 1 or 2 goals, that's the case of some FCP games last year and some other games between other teams that i remember.

P.S.- Alvalade-XXI i would thank to god if you get banned out of here, i will definitely not miss u if that happen. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by [dfm]
P.S.- Alvalade-XXI i would thank to god if you get banned out of here, i will definitely not miss u if that happen. :rolleyes:
Gee, with saying things like that to provoke him you'd wonder how you ever got a yellow card.:rolleyes:

This is kinda recent and it kinda looks like crush... :evil:

LOLOL

I hope a nice game, not a boring one and without any bad reefree interference!!! I want it to be fair!!! :rockman:

Punkt, Last year porto crushed Benfica and didnt score more because Deco and Candido Costa were showing off stupidly....but the 3-2 game was close and the best Porto-Benfica ive seen with some great goals:D (i also liked the 5-0 game(H) )

Originally posted by K3nzo
This is kinda recent and it kinda looks like crush... :evil:

LOLOL

I hope a nice game, not a boring one and without any bad reefree interference!!! I want it to be fair!!! :rockman:


Oh boy, that pic reminds me of the wonderful double Paredes-Andrade the two masters of fair-play and precision when tackling:)


The Invicta will never forget u and im sure you'll never forget us either Carlos Paredes, winner of the Dragao d'ouro twice(athlete and football player of the year) in the same year:rockman:

Word's game: :D

Ricardo Carvalho (Porto): "we want to prove in the field that we are the better team in portugal!"

Nuno Gomes (Benfica): "we can get a good result in Antas!"

(H)

more tomorrow :crazyboy:

PS: alguém joga na liga record? podiamos criar uma mini-liga do SG o que acham? :bouncy:

"And why don't you talk about the other players that weren't sented off by tackling DECO several times..."


1 - 1 wrong that decided a game doesnt make up for 1 right and I dont remember well the tackles on Deco, and I dont really believe Mouta, the enlightned, the beholder of the truth, and his propaganda machine;

2 - Poor Deco that never made a tackle in his life and didnt diserve it. He ****ing ended Luis Figo brilliant career with his tackle to him, he hasnt played **** since that injury. I wouldnt be sad if someone made him break a leg, well after the Euro, so he could see how it bites.

Originally posted by Virgo
He ****ing ended Luis Figo brilliant career with his tackle to him, he hasnt played **** since that injury

Keep yourself informed. Figo was injured already and Deco just gave him a simple touch. I know about some stars that injured other players but you always have to talk about FC Porto players...

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Keep yourself informed. Figo was injured already and Deco just gave him a simple touch. I know about some stars that injured other players but you always have to talk about FC Porto players...

a simple touch? lol :gavin:

now a two feet tackle is a simple touch OMG
figo didn't recover from this tackle and we can thanks to deco the good World Cup that figo played :s***:

haja paz que o pais esta em crise e quem ganha os milhões são eles.

Originally posted by [dfm]
That's the way man, we have to discuss just about FOOTBALL, not some less important things that some people gives more value than the game played in the pitch. :rolleyes:
BTW, i have to tell u that you're one of the most honest and realistic persons around here, congratulations for that (i really mean that, i'm not being sarcastic). ;) (H)

If we aren't honest with ourselves, we can't be honest with everyone else.

I quite don't see much of a win from Benfica to be honest. We would need a new César Brito here :p A draw there would already be a good result. But I don't remember ever wanting my team to play to get a draw... ;)

With Deco and Costinha still struggling for phisycal form, Benfica has to win the ball possession in midfield, and then explore every free inch of the field to get the ball there. If this doesn't happen in the opening 15 minutes, then we may lost the game by then. And if we score early like last year, we can't defend the result: we have to fight to get another goal, and so on. If this all happens, then we may think about returning home (with no parties at the disco after the game :rolleyes: ) with the 3 points.

But with Ricardo Carvalho having such excellent perfomances, Benfica may struggle to get the ball to the striker. Deco and Costinha need minutes in their legs, and Pedro Mendes may be in here for a surprise. Lets see if Luisão can handle Jankauskas. After all, those 'twin towers' will be one of the treats of the match :p

Word's game:

José Mourinho (Porto): "Porto must pressure and dominate Benfica to win"

José António Camacho: "Benfica is ready to win in Antas. The game is difficult to both sides. i don't think porto is the favourite"

Camacho saying Porto aren't favorites is laughable. It's obvious their favourites. If he had said that the game is going to be even, it'd be more on the spot, but saying Porto aren't favorites is like saying Madail has a brain somewhere in his head.

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
but saying Porto aren't favorites is like saying Madail has a brain somewhere in his head.


LLLLOLLLL :crazyboy:

i think camacho said that because we wanted to moralize (sp?) the players. obviously porto are the favourites.

Players called from both teams:

FC PORTO
Goalkeepers: Baía e Nuno.

Defences: Paulo Ferreira, Secretário, Jorge Costa, Ricardo Carvalho, Pedro Emanuel, Ricardo Costa e Nuno Valente.

Midfielders: Costinha, Bosingwa, Pedro Mendes, Maniche, Ricardo Fernandes e Deco.

Forwards: Derlei, Jankauskas, Marco Ferreira e Hugo Almeida.


BENFICA:
Goalkeepers: Moreira and Bossio.

Defenders : Miguel, Hélder, Luisão, Argel, Cristiano and Ricardo Rocha.

Midfielders: Zahovic, Carlitos, Tiago, Aguiar, Petit, Andersson, Simão and Pereira.

Forwards: Sokota e Fehér.

Alex isn't called

i bet in this starting elevens:

PORTO

------------------Baia--------------

P.Ferreira-Carvalho-J.Costa-N.Valente

---------------Costinha--------------

--------P.Mendes-----Deco-------------

-Maniche-----Jankauskas---Derlei





BENFICA:

--------------Moreira---------------

Miguel-Luisão-Argel-R.Rocha

--------Petit-------Tiago----------

Pereira-----Zahovic------Simão---

---------------Sokota----------------

Benfica need to replace Argel, he's the weakest link on Benfica, IMO.

IMO, derby matches have no favourites, I feel that FC Porto and Benfica each have an equal chance to win. However, if I were putting money on this match, I would back FC Porto, and here is why: Camacho needs to quit considering every player under the sun. It may have worked for Spain, where everyone with a Spanish passport was eligible, but it sure as hell won't work at club level, where you can select from 25, 30 players at the max. It's clearly obvious that Roger, Bossio, "Robocop" Aguiar, and Zahovic are not the calibre of player that is required for a club as big as Benfica.

Now for my score prediction: FC Porto 3:0 Benfica

LOL, with so many replies I thought the game was ended but it hasn't started yet, when will it be played?

Originally posted by ricardo
LOL, with so many replies I thought the game was ended but it hasn't started yet, when will it be played?

sunday 19h30 portuguese time 20h30 CET :)

Originally posted by Punkt
i bet in this starting elevens:

PORTO

------------------Baia--------------

P.Ferreira-Carvalho-J.Costa-N.Valente

---------------Costinha--------------

--------P.Mendes-----Deco-------------

-Maniche-----Jankauskas---Derlei


Wrong positions in FC PORTO, should be this way:


PORTO

------------------Baia--------------

P.Ferreira-Carvalho-J.Costa-N.Valente

---------------Costinha-----------------

--------Maniche-----PedroMendes

------------------Deco---------------

------Jankauskas---Derlei--------------

or:

------------------Baia--------------

P.Ferreira-Carvalho-J.Costa-N.Valente

---------------Costinha-----------------

--------Maniche-----Deco--------------

Bosingwa---Jankauskas---Derlei----

The player I love to see for FC Porto is not Deco or Derlei, but Bosingwa. I got to know him through Total Club Manager (full talent :rockman: ) and I saw him in the UEFA last year for Boavista. (against Celtic, or I think it was Boavista) I am an admirer of the kids abilities and so I'll try to find the game on Eurosport or something!

I also like Miklos Fehrer if he i playing, he's a classic! (H)

yeah, Bosingwa is a great player......I like Miki Feher too, but I don't think he's as good as Sokota..

Bosingwa is a good player, but Im a bit frustrated that Mourinho prefers him to Peixoto (who I feel is a much better player)

Miki sux. Deal with that.

I dislike both of them.

Originally posted by PortoMarco
Bosingwa is a good player, but Im a bit frustrated that Mourinho prefers him to Peixoto (who I feel is a much better player)

Miki sux. Deal with that.

you prefer peixoto??? bosingwa is a complete player much better that peixoto by far :confused:

Peixoto is a better offensive player, and in the 4-4-2 would solve Porto's obvious flanking problems this season.

I do agree that Boswinga is a more complete player though, since he can play a bevy of positions.

I think it would be fitting to beat Porto 8-2. Just like we did in the first game ever in Antas.. you know, just to send it off the right way..

Originally posted by AcillateM
haja paz que o pais esta em crise e quem ganha os milhões são eles.

Most sensible comment of the entire thread.

Yeah, calve11, you can count on those 8-2... Oh, look, there's santa in a leather jacket...

Here's my pediction: Benfica will get some nasty counterattacks in the first half and might eventually score. As we all know, Simulação Sabrosa is deadly with his dives to the pitch, so we have to watch out for him. Nuno Valente will have to face Miguel, which also kind of worries me. Apart from that, Benni is sidelined which, of course, only makes our attack stronger. :p

I think that we'll drive Benfica to the floor on the second half, though, especially if it rains tonight. We're clearly the strongest team, both mentally and physically, so I expect those lampiões to have a tough time. There is also the chance something similar to what happened to Sporting against us might happen this time to Benfica. Ahh, how I'd love that to happen...

Either way, Porto will win it by a two goal margin or we'll draw. Just hope we get a good football game with zero controversy, so those lampinholas can shut up for once and accept defeat. :p :D
Good game, everybody! :)

OFICIAL LINEUPS

PORTO
-----------------Baia------------------

P.Ferreira-J.Costa-Carvalho-N.Valente

----------Maniche---Costinha----------

-------------------Deco----------------

-R.Fernandes-Jankauskas-Derlei


BENFICA:

------------Moreira-----------

Miguel-Argel-Luisão-R.Rocha

Zahovic-Tiago-Petit-Simão

-------Fehér----Sokota-------


20 minutes to kick off

GOOD LUCK BENFICA :clapwap: :clapwap:

Halftime:

FC Porto 1-0 Benfica :kader:

We were actually not doing too bad until Miguel's stupid little maneuver..:rolleyes:

hows it doing right now

Porto just made it 2-0 thanks to an Argel own goal :nape:

Two defensive blunders gives Porto 2 goals...

congrats to benfica, they've played well, better than most of us was expecting :)
though your defense is crap at the moment, camacho must do something about it

about porto, they played well to, mainly porto's defense, very solid, even when benfica was controling the game our defense didn't allowed many goal chances by benfica (about 3 or 4 in all game)

and with this win porto's again were it should be :p in the FIRST place :rockman:

Originally posted by bmpv666

and with this win porto's again were it should be :p in the FIRST place :rockman:
TIED with Maritimo, get that part straight.:p

One more easy win. FCP was superb in defense. We made many wrong passes but even playing in 50% of our best perfomance we won easily. If we played like against Sporting it would have been 4-0. :D

Originally posted by INFESTA
Either way, Porto will win it by a two goal margin
Hmn... Nostradamus?;) :p

Once again, we capitulate to the Northern Enemy, this time by a 2-0 scoreline. I'm speechless. That is now five straight Superliga matches that we have lost to FC Porto, and when you guys visit the Luz later this season, we should may as well gift-wrap no. 6, because we show no heart when it matters most.

BTW, Hugo-45-Viana, your sig looks sweet. After all Homer does bleed vermelho e verde.

i think benfica played well especially in the first half but we pratically offered the 2 goals to porto with 2 stupid defensive errors... also benfica didn't have lucky in crucial moments of the game like in that header of sokota that hitted the bar (great cross from Pereira)

PS: the red card to Ricardo Rocha was pathetic. now i know why portistas called deco the artist, and maniche? he stamped petit and even a yellow card isn't showed...
:kader:

best benfica players: tiago and pereira

WAY TO GO MIGUEL!!!! I bet he's signing for Real Madrid to replace Salgado right about now


Anyway Porto is not winning anything in Europe playing like they did today.

****y game by porto and Benfica played well...all i can say is that porto isnt playing **** this year, the only good exhibition was against sporting all other games were crap...tonight porto seemed an italian team, defending and being cynical when attacking(and diving, Deco just Dives and misses passes all the time)...
Congrats to Benfica, porto was just lucky, porto players dont have last year's attitude no more...like in the end, against 10men instead of trying to make the 3rd they were just playing like clowns with the ball with no objective at all....

I like the warrior attitude that made us win 4trophes last year, not this cynical primadona ****....

We didn't made an outstanding game, far away from that, but i think we played better and our victory is more than deserved (even with a little bit of luck in that first goal), Benfica made a good game but again their defence was crap (fortunatelly for us :p). I also have to say that the referee was OK, the cards were well showed, i admitt that Deco made a dive but Ricardo Rocha was sent off because of his behaviour, it was a red card and not a second yellow, with this i have to conclude that this game was won with no controversy at all. ;)

P.S.- I agree with that comment of Goo Goo, Porto played in a stupid way in the last 15 minutes, we should have tried to score the 3rd goal instead of that "Olés", i know that is a pleasure to make such things against our rivals :p but we don't need that kind of things. :kader:

Well at least someone is honest for a change. I compare Goo Goo Boy to Mouta's post and I see a football lover, and an anti-benfica guy.

Hmn... looks like the top teams are on a downfall...

03-04 Champions-Beira-Mar?;) :p

Originally posted by Punkt
i think benfica played well especially in the first half but we pratically offered the 2 goals to porto with 2 stupid defensive errors... also benfica didn't have lucky in crucial moments of the game like in that header of sokota that hitted the bar (great cross from Pereira)

PS: the red card to Ricardo Rocha was pathetic. now i know why portistas called him the artist, and maniche? he stamped petit and even a yellow card isn't showed...
:kader:

best benfica players: tiago and pereira
i agree 100% with u ! Maniche should've been sent off ! how in the world didnt anyone see that :kader: also ricardo rocha was right he didnt even TOUCHED deco, although he shouldnt've reacted like that. I wont even talk about the goals a present and an own goal OMG btw didi u see how costinha entered with both feet against simao, and he hit him by simao's back , joao pinto was sent off for less in the 2002 world cup... If there was any justice in football it should've been at least a draw...

goo goo boy congratulations for your excellent analysis. you are the prove that there are porto fans that can watch a game without any kind of anti-benfica thoughts.:clapwap:

PS: os portugueses sao mesmo os campeões do SG forum. já repararam que todos os threads sobre o futebol portugues sao sempre dos mais concorridos? :)

Originally posted by Virgo
Well at least someone is honest for a change. I compare Goo Goo Boy to Mouta's post and I see a football lover, and an anti-benfica guy.

I was gonna say the same...

well, i love football, i love porto, but im anti-cynicism, anti-divers and anti-italian kind of football, so tonight porto was really bad and not noble at all, as our town requires those players to be...and btw, im not anti-any club im just portista and i like portuguese clubs to win and to play good football ive had enough of catenaccio

Originally posted by Punkt


PS: os portugueses sao mesmo os campeões do SG forum. já repararam que todos os threads sobre o futebol portugues sao sempre dos mais concorridos? :)

exactly, we own this place! :D

The best sig maker-Portuguese(shinji)
The best philosopher-Portuguese(Infesta)
The best fan-Portuguese(GooGoo)
The best kit-maker-Portuguese(Googoo)

Feels good to be on top:hump: ;)

Tell Benfica to stop trying to get me to be there Coach in CM4. (H)

Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
The best sig maker-Portuguese(shinji)
The best philosopher-Portuguese(Infesta)
The best fan-Portuguese(GooGoo)
The best kit-maker-Portuguese(Googoo)

Feels good to be on top:hump: ;)


don't forget the best prediction league too!

OK, I kinda misconstrued my facts concerning SLB's winless streak against FC Porto. I meant 5 consecutive matches without a win, rather than 5 straight losses. I apologise for the error.

Now, I need to go to my friend's house to pick up one of his FC Porto scarves. Yes, that is my punishment: wear a FC Porto scarf for one whole week. Wish me luck!

Originally posted by Avalanche1996
OK, I kinda misconstrued my facts concerning SLB's winless streak against FC Porto. I meant 5 consecutive matches without a win, rather than 5 straight losses. I apologise for the error.

Now, I need to go to my friend's house to pick up one of his FC Porto scarves. Yes, that is my punishment: wear a FC Porto scarf for one whole week. Wish me luck!
At the end of the week you could always spray paint it red or set it on fire or something.;) Just food for thought!:p

or better yet, wipe his ass with it! :D

Thought I'd let you Portuguese people know, that your country-man Ronaldo had a hell of a game today versus Arsenal, probably deserved Man of the Match, gave Ashley Cole alot of problems. :rockman: He does one stepover too many though, but his crosses are good. :rockman:

here are the game data:

FC PORTO - Vítor Baía; Paulo Ferreira, Ricardo Carvalho, Jorge Costa e Nuno Valente; Costinha, Maniche (Bosingwa, 81m), Deco, Ricardo Fernandes (Pedro Mendes, 63m); Jankauskas (Hugo Almeida, 86m) e Derlei;

BENFICA - Moreira; Miguel, Luisão, Argel e Ricardo Rocha; Petit, Tiago (Fernando Aguiar, 73m), Zahovic (Cristiano, 82m) e Simão; Sokota e Fehér (João Pereira, 58m);

Goals: 1-0, Derlei, 30m; 2-0, Argel, 52m (own goal)

Cards: Yellow to Ricardo Carvalho (26m), Jorge Costa (37m), Ricardo Rocha (40m), Costinha (49m), Luisão (51m), Miguel (81m), Petit (89m). Red to Ricardo Rocha (80m).

and a foto...

Originally posted by Virgo
Well at least someone is honest for a change. I compare Goo Goo Boy to Mouta's post and I see a football lover, and an anti-benfica guy.

Yeah i know you love soft FC PORTO fans... but the true is that i've watched the whole match, the resume and the 1rst half in RTP Africa. FC Porto had 7 real chances of scoring in the whole game (plus the 2 goals) against 2 of Benfica. FC Porto made a good 1rst half, good passes, good chances. In the 2nd Half we scored the 2nd goal and cause we have more games than this ones we controled the game, with the beautiful "óles" and so on. All i care is that we played about 50% of our best performance and we won 2-0 without chances. 3 points and the 1rst place. :rockman:

PS: Maybe now Benfica supporters knows that they don't have any chance to compete with us...

Ok, ive had time to relax now and this is what I have to say. Pity my dear Porto. On paper we are much better than last season's team, but on the pitch we are awful. I am actually trembling for the Madrid match next week, playing like this will get us hammered.

I hate to say it cause I love him, but Deco should have been sold this summer. PDC suceeded in keeping Deco's feet at Antas, but his head is already at Barcelona.

Oh by the way, I hope these recent run of results could help dispel the myth that "Porto is Deco". Deco is playing like a gimp and having no overall impact on our games and yet we keep on winning.

Miguel is so great and like I predicted last week....Benfica's defense gave us the win.

Deco linked to Barca? :S (:/) I don't like Barcelona, but he;ll still be one of my favourite players in the world. :rockman: It just gives me a reason to actually watch Barca If deco plays, since we don't get Portuguese football over here in the UK.

Originally posted by [mouta-FCP]
Yeah i know you love soft FC PORTO fans...

There is no such thing as soft FC porto fans...they are RUDE and VIOLENT (look at the agression in Deco)