I wouldn't risk Rio if he has not recovered from that injury and I don't think Ronaldo will play as Fergie has said he won't play him twice a week. So Fletcher could start.


Howard

G Neville - Silvestre - O'Shea - Fortune

Fletcher - Butt - Keane - Giggs

Scholes - Ruud

I would play Scholes with Ruud upfront instead of Giggs, Giggs is more suited to the left flank.


Christ sake, we need to bounce back and get the 3 points. :rockman:

Brum could win it, they look strong.

Birmingham is strong enuff for a draw 2-2 dude

brum could win against arsenal too..... but man u 3-0.... have you heard of the mu backlash? which arsenal could not do.... fletcher first goal and scholes double....

my line-up i think...

------------------Howard--------------------
P.Neville - O'Shea - Silvestre - Fortune
Fletcher ----------Keane---------Giggs
----------Scholes---------Ronaldo----------
----------------v. Nistelrooy-----------------

Ronaldo will score and own goal, and Howard will get angry and go off for it, pulling the pot noodles from Ronaldo's head, and using words most people have never heard. Brum to win 56-0

/fifafanv1 style pick.
:p

well, our reserve beat them last night, hopefully our first-team do the same tomorrow.

birmingham are fourth. they won't lose 3-0.

it might be one of those bolton type games for man u, but i still thinkthey'll produce the goods.

man utd 2 - 1 birmingham city
van nistelrooy lazaridis
scholes

Originally posted by fifafanv1
brum could win against arsenal too..... but man u 3-0.... have you heard of the mu backlash? which arsenal could not do.... fletcher first goal and scholes double....

my line-up i think...

------------------Howard--------------------
P.Neville - O'Shea - Silvestre - Fortune
Fletcher ----------Keane---------Giggs
----------Scholes---------Ronaldo----------
----------------v. Nistelrooy-----------------

After Arsenal lose 3-0 to Inter, they produced a backlash at OT. LOL, whacking up RvN is fun

Originally posted by senght
After Arsenal lose 3-0 to Inter, they produced a backlash at OT. LOL, whacking up RvN is fun

oh and what a disgrace Keown was. :f***:

Keown is a lovely player who only means good. Now focus on Brum.

Originally posted by soccerbest
oh and what a disgrace Keown was. :f***:

Keown was just too happy and "too intoxicated"
Good one on RvN that was

Originally posted by bk146
birmingham are fourth. they won't lose 3-0.

it might be one of those bolton type games for man u, but i still thinkthey'll produce the goods.

man utd 2 - 1 birmingham city
van nistelrooy lazaridis
scholes

this is the best i have heard so far from an arsenal fan.
i'l stick with him.2-1 to united.

all the other arsenal fans gotta learn from this guy

i learnt from bobby and anti, except this post just happened to be an exception.

and dont get me wrong, i just hope my prediction goes awfully astray. :p :)

Originally posted by www.www.com.com
this is the best i have heard so far from an arsenal fan.
i'l stick with him.2-1 to united.

all the other arsenal fans gotta learn from this guy

Oh when Manure fans are predicting Pool5 Ars 0, and u are expecting us to predict a win for Manu? Im fair and Ill think its a draw.

i want man utd to lose 9000-0, and piss to flood Old toilet.

But i predict with my head, not my heart.

2-2

Man United 2-1 Birmingham

Ruud van Nistelrooy x2.

Luciano Figueroa

My head say's 2-2, with Figueroa getting a 2nd.

I'm off downtown.

Fletch's been called up...its been a while since we had a decent Scottish International..... he will be bigger than becks....

Becks had blonde hair.... Fletch also had blonde hair.... Becks wore number 24.....Fletch is wearing number 24....

and he will date someone from girls aloud.

I think it will be a 2-2 draw

Originally posted by fifafanv1
Fletch's been called up...its been a while since we had a decent Scottish International..... he will be bigger than becks....

Becks had blonde hair.... Fletch also had blonde hair.... Becks wore number 24.....Fletch is wearing number 24....

Becks had 24 when he was young?

Manchester United 2-1 Birmingham

Van Nistelrooy
Scholes

Lazaridis

2-3

Van Nistelrooy
Giggs


Dunn
Forssell
Lazaridis

3-1 to man utd
X2 ruud
x1 ronaldo

2-0 to man u. Giggs, Ruud.

And ljunberg08 how come you always predict a united player scoring an own goal?:confused: :p :o

Originally posted by veron28
2-0 to man u. Giggs, Ruud.

And ljunberg08 how come you always predict a united player scoring an own goal?:confused: :p :o

u chelsea fan:crazyboy: me liverpool fan:crazyboy: :crazyboy:

Originally posted by veron28
2-0 to man u. Giggs, Ruud.

And ljunberg08 how come you always predict a united player scoring an own goal?:confused: :p :o

cause it'd be a good laugh, and i'd record it, and make an avatar out of it. and a sig.

Early night I think, if theres a decent film on.

Looking foward to the game tommorow(as usual), I hope Its our day tommorow, cya lads. (H)

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
cause it'd be a good laugh, and i'd record it, and make an avatar out of it. and a sig.

make one of keown own goal against bolton which handed us the title. :crazyboy:

I think it'll be a 1-1 draw.

ManUre 1 - 2 Birmingham :rockman:

Originally posted by bk146
it might be one of those bolton type games for man u, but i still thinkthey'll produce the goods.

man utd 2 - 1 birmingham city
van nistelrooy lazaridis
scholes

That sounds about right. Birmingham are a good team. I wouldn't be surprised if they beat us. :confused:

Man Utd 2 Birmingham 0
Giggs and Ruud..
I think howard will keep the clean sheet :)

Birmingham are my favorite EPL side since last season and I am really glad that they are doing so well and looking very strong. I think it will be a very tough game, probably a draw, but Birmingham can win it for sure.

2-2

It is basically Soccerbest's line-up except I made some changes to the backline on the assumption that Rio is fit to play.

If Solskjaer was back you can replace Fletcher and you have the best Man U team.

Originally posted by ko_Totti
If Solskjaer was back you can replace Fletcher and you have the best Man U team.

Yup.

2-2

Fletcher adds that youth in the side.... and like o'shea, he is an international....

i like birmingham city, i hope its a good game also hope its a draw;)

Originally posted by ko_Totti
If Solskjaer was back you can replace Fletcher and you have the best Man U team.

right, shame he got injured, otherwise he would be the one playing on the right. :(

Originally posted by ManU2000
It is basically Soccerbest's line-up except I made some changes to the backline on the assumption that Rio is fit to play.

Hey man, I'm just wondering where you found that image of the starting line-up?:confused:

My bet is BBC's fantasy footie thing, or Yahoo's. :confused:

Originally posted by boosted
Hey man, I'm just wondering where you found that image of the starting line-up?:confused:

Check this website out. You can make your own line-up.

BBC Sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3161330.stm)

It is the BBC. Pretty cool program. (H)

It was a wild guess. (H)

Originally posted by shokz
It was a wild guess. (H)

Your a good guesser. I wish I had that kind of gift so that I could pass some of my Calculus tests. :mrpimp:

And who gave you guys that link *Cough*

Man United should be able to win here but Bruce has the Blues playing well. Is Savage Playing??

Thanks PaPaGeorGeo. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


















:crazyboy: (H)

(6) (6) (6)

3-1 to united
ruud,ruud,fortune

I'd love to go unbeaten at home In the Premiership for a season, like in 95/96.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/3123628.stm

There is a good chance this could be the weekend, where everyone will have lost atleast one game.

Birmingham - Good runs don't last forever, they might even beat us.
Arsenal - Liverpool Home Advantage, Arsenal have enough quality to take 3 points though.
Chelsea - Likely to stay undefeated domestically this weekend, but it could happen vs Boro.

Im tipping Boro to hold Chelsea to a draw. Look at Besiktas lol

another hattrick by ruud:rockman: :mrpimp:

shokz, ferdy is a doubt.... i think gary will be axed with phil playing there.... o'shea might move to half-back with lucky fortune playing the left full-back...butt or djemba might return to midfield..... but no ronaldo...

The crap about players being axed came out of the rumour mill, Fergie has already set the record straight.

Nobody will get axed.

I think Ferdinand has been deemed fit.

i see manutd match because of ronaldo......
i see his tricks and do it when i'm playing....
i'm currently not cut my hair so i can make it something like ronaldo...
i love manutd and ronaldo....:)



__________________________________________________ ______
AC Milan
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Manchester United
__________________________________________________ ______:rockman:

http://play.www.planetfootball.servecast.net/downloads/sky/manutd.ram

Found it in the source of the radio page on mu.tv

Real ONE/Player Is required.

When does this game start??

Started over 20 minutes ago mate.

already started
0-0 21st min

Ok Cheers

Hows Man U?

We've had alot of possession.

"Fletcher is showing some promising signs" (H) :)

taylor sent off..... penalty...ruud must score to lead with 8 goals....and he scores...

Penalty.

Scholes brought down, red card for Taylor.

van Nistelrooy takes on an empty goal..

rofl, damn, they are alloud to make a sub, be funny to see a player go in goal. (H)

1-0. Ruud Ruud Ruud!.

PENALTY!!! :rockman:
Taylor is sent off!
:mrpimp:
come on Ruud

EDIT: 1-0!!! RUUUDDD VAAAAN NISTELROOOOYYY (H)

kinda scrappy half..... who said that fletcher is inexperienced.... that alex has to watch his sentences.... not fergie...but redknapp minus the red.... ferdy should have scored his 1st goal for mu....

Man U deserved to go 1-0 up in the first half. They ahd 4 shot on goal 3 on target...Just saw the stats. Hope Bir buck up.

they lost lazaridis..... dun think of any chance.... i prefer mu to play 11 v 11 though...

Fletcher brought down in the box - No penalty.

scholes with a goal....outside the area...2-0

Scholes 2-0.

:)

wot a rocket by Scholes!! :hump:
ruud nearly scores his 2nd.. Bennett saved with his legs..

bloody hell i have to wait till 10:30 to see preimership highlights on itv

Originally posted by DIOUF11
bloody hell i have to wait till 10:30 to see preimership highlights on itv

Same.

I want to do me new avatar, looks like I'll be changing my avatar after the Scholes goal. (H)

http://score.planetfootball.com

It was a professional foul then on Scholes. :)

No mate, its not live. I'm just listening to MU Radio and watching Gillete Soccer Saturday, and watching the Sky Sports Live Score Centre @ http://score.planetfootball.com

giggs...3-0... scorers against bolton...

3-0!

Giggsy(assisted for Diego). (H)

Come on Diego get your self a goal mate. :mrpimp:

man utd linup ---- anyone?

Diouf, Get on http://score.planetfootball.com Click on Man United 3-0 Birmingham, then click on Man United again. (H)

Oh dear, fighting in the Birmingham end.

Diego came close, unlucky. :(

Great result as we will keep up with Arsenal. I can't watch the game now or even the replay later. I'll just have to watch the review show on Monday then.

DAMN YOU FSW!!!!!!!!!!!!:kader: :kader: :f***: :crazyboy:

and most of you predicted a 2-2 draw.. yeah right (H) :mrpimp: :p

Originally posted by shokz
Oh dear, fighting in the Birmingham end.

Do you know what happened? :confused:

Man United's commentators were going on about it, punches etc.

Theres really no need for it.

lacklustre, but flattering... we didnt dominated.... and our passes were inaccurate..... fletcher puts on another good show..... the thing that made my day is man city losing....

Originally posted by shokz
Man United's commentators were going on about it, punches etc.

Theres really no need for it.

Between the players?

Originally posted by fifafanv1
lacklustre, but flattering... we didnt dominated.... and our passes were inaccurate..... fletcher puts on another good show..... the thing that made my day is man city losing....
I know, especially to Wolves with Irwin in the team!:p . Ahh, too bad Liverpool lost.

Originally posted by shokz
Diouf, Get on http://score.planetfootball.com Click on Man United 3-0 Birmingham, then click on Man United again. (H)
thanx:rockman:

Originally posted by ManU2000
Between the players?

No mate, Birmingham fans.

I should've made my post sound a bit more clearer. :) my bad.

Originally posted by shokz
No mate, Birmingham fans.

I should've made my post sound a bit more clearer. :) my bad.

Oh, its cool.

A weird Premiership weekend so far.

Newcastle win.
Wolves win.
Bottom 4 Clubs won today.

We end Birmingham's undefeated run in The Premiership.

Liverpool put in there best performance so far this season despite defeat.

Reidy proves the Leeds board(aka twats with wigs) wrong.

Shearer hits 250th Milestone goal.

Originally posted by shokz
Wolves win.


This is the shocker of the weekend. Good for them though. It was about time. :mrpimp:

we havent polished our fire-starters(we are devils you kno..w)

great result but not much cause arsenal won.so that'll keep them on the high till 2 weeks now.
the red card decision was a disgrace but still united deserved it
arsenal did not deserve the win but still that superb pires strike makes it deserving.
like shokz says,a wierd week

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39413000/jpg/_39413152_rvn_gi_300x245.jpg

A simple win in the end, but when Birmingham had 11 men United struggled to break them down.

The penalty awarded was a penalty, according to the commentator, and Scholes 25-yard drive was terrific. Giggs added one late on so it's good to see the Welshman back on the scoresheet once more.

The sending off I'm not sure. I'll have to look at the replays first. But the commentator and the analyst both agreed that according to the rules of the game Taylor should have walked, so that's fine by me.

well-done man u

Giggs have not scored in away matches for ????

It's not that long, actually. I remember when he didn't score at OT for over a year, but still scored lots away, that was something, but so far 3 goals all home for him.

Originally posted by Digitarius
A simple win in the end, but when Birmingham had 11 men United struggled to break them down.

The penalty awarded was a penalty, according to the commentator, and Scholes 25-yard drive was terrific. Giggs added one late on so it's good to see the Welshman back on the scoresheet once more.

The sending off I'm not sure. I'll have to look at the replays first. But the commentator and the analyst both agreed that according to the rules of the game Taylor should have walked, so that's fine by me.

I will always argue for commonsense. That was literally a splitsecond foul.

Even if you have some ridiculous rule like never awarding a red if the penalty is scored and with it the team leads.
Anything but a sendingoff and a penalty for a bang bang play like that.

On another note, ManU fans criticize Forlan way too much, the guy has a smoothness to his control and passing that not many players have.

Maybe if Forlan played a lil more, people would see that he really is a good player. Fergie just changes the tactics around a lot.

Birmingham just crumbled after that red card. Good wn for Man U tho.

the red card is a disgrace..... from a man u fan...it would be a red card if scholes was wide and one-on-one while trying to cut in, push the ball inside and get tripped by gk is a red card...

Fletcher is good!

Play Ronaldo on the left and Fletcher on the right once Giggsy and Solskjaer retire. Then look for another young player like Ronaldo who can play on both flanks as reserve. :)

It was reasonably early over here, so I watched a little of it...

Yes, the red card shown was very poor, if the goalies around the world are getting penalised for defending their goal, you think about it...

And I'm sick of teams winning over penalties and getting praised for a good game when their only upwind was the silly player doing somthing stupid in the first place, seems a lot like AFL umpires over here :D

Originally posted by Alex Knapp
Damn,i hope giggs retirment plan is a long way away.:(
me too, he is the best left midfielder in the world....

The red card was well deserved, the GK was the last man, and he cought Scholes on the legs. Rules are rules, it was a professional foul, and a red card is a must.

but its a disgrace.....and we also had the privelege to take on a savageless...no pun intended birmingham...

Why is it a disgrace. :confused:

scholes was going wide.... he was not cuttin' in... i would rather see man u win 1-0 against 11-man than 3-0 against 10....

Originally posted by fifafanv1
scholes was going wide.... he was not cuttin' in... i would rather see man u win 1-0 against 11-man than 3-0 against 10....

That doesnt matter, he was the last man, it was a goal scoring opportunity, Scholes was denied that opportunity with a foul, If you watch the replay carefully, you can see that he went in after Scholes put the ball to his left.

Keeper or Outfield player.

Full marks to the referee. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by fifafanv1
scholes was going wide.... he was not cuttin' in... i would rather see man u win 1-0 against 11-man than 3-0 against 10....

no I would rather see us win big in matches to boost our goal differences.

Originally posted by shokz

Full marks to the referee. :rolleyes:

If anything the referee should be banned from all soccer related activities for the rest of his life...full marks is a discrace because, well god he's the bloody goalkeeper, he can do whatever he feels like.

But then again, what's the point of getting a Man Utd. fan to see it from a Birmingham point of view :rolleyes: ;) :p

Yea.

IMO it was sorta harsh to give a red card, but it was a last man foul... I would have given a yellow, though FIFA is asking for no leniency... or is that not a word??

The penalty was fair and clear-cut, but the red card, while a technically correct decision, was slightly harsh on Birmingham, and in previous seasons where referees were not under as much pressure to adhere to the rulebook, it might have warranted a yellow at worst. United went on to win the match easily and the next two goals were great to watch. Giggs was showing glimpses of his form of old - running at defenders, showing his pace and easing past them and displaying magnificent close control. Scholes and Keane ran the game, but my only gripe has to be with Phil Neville - his passing was terrible. It's no use being a great ball-winner if you're going to give it away in a second. He did everything else right - covering all areas of the pitch, marking up, etc. It's just his passing that let him down.

I found out something, I went into the source of http://score.planetfootball.com/scorecentre.html

and found this.

http://score.planetfootball.com/Scorecentre.swf

Can download it now, It will ask to permit your firewall, so it does indeed work. :rockman: without needing to goto the page. :rockman: It is 188k, or check your Internet Temporary Files Folder.

I was in the far end from the penalty decision and it looked like a pen from where I was sitting. The replay on ITV's bog-standard version of MotD confirmed what I thought, though it was harsh to send the keeper off though as it was more of a clumsy challenge, however under the laws of the game he had to go. Was it Cisse that got booked for arguing with the ref over it?

United's performance was good though, if not spectacular. Birmingham started bright enough but only threated twice throughout the entire match. Contrary to popular belief the red-card did not change the flow of the game. United were beginning to dominate before then, but after the red card it was going to be difficult for the Brummies to get back in the game.

Giggs has to be man of the match. His running with the ball terrorized the Birmingham defense as he seemingly turned his opponents with ease and he rounded off a good goal after a well-timed and placed pass from Diego Forlan. The only area Giggs was lacking was in his final ball, all to often he managed to get through the defense and a good final ball or cross is all that was needed and it often went astray.

The Birmingham fans have to be the worst away fans I've ever seen though, especially when they ended up fighting amongst themselves towards the end. They made a good sing-song before the kick off and then seemed to burn themselves out in the first 5mins of the game. The only time we heard them after that was for one of their numerous (stupid) handball shouts and when they cheered the mentioning of their name by the announcer telling them that they have to wait until United fans have left the ground before going. The handball shouts were taken the piss out of in the end by the United fans who sarcastically shouted handball every time the ball went for a Birmingham throw-in and their player picked the ball up, escalating to a short burst of handball every time a Brum player touched the ball.

A solid performance by United in the end, just what was needed following the defensive errors of mid-week and the approaching International break.

I vote Scholesy as man of the match. Giggs had a good game but Scholes was the creative spark for us.

will always argue for commonsense. That was literally a splitsecond foul.

Rules are rules. The referee has to abide to them. It is not the man in black's fault, but the rulebook.

Anything but a sendingoff and a penalty for a bang bang play like that.

I can totally understand the lack of need for the sending off, but a penalty? Of course it should be a penalty. You already said that it was a 'foul' and if a foul is committed in the penalty area, should it not be a penalty? The answer is obvious.

If anything the referee should be banned from all soccer related activities for the rest of his life

What? For following the rules? So what about if he, as you suggested, breaks them? Then what are the rules for? Wiping our arses?

Was it Cisse that got booked for arguing with the ref over it?

Yes, I think so.