http://www.concacaf.com/view_article.asp?id=2168

sweet USA is in!!:rockman: :rockman:

Curb your enthusiasm. Last time we were invited to this tourny, the USSF turned down the invite. So this could be worthless.

I read somewhere that the US looked down on Copa America, and weren't willing to play in Peru in 2004.

damnit Caponedawg, i was gonna post this. :( :p

But anyway, hopefully the Kings of CONCACAF do as well as they did in 2001. Maybe now we'll be able to see a USA vs Mexico final :brow:

are you guys kidding me usa will get killed in the copa america becuz the south american team use their top players and i dont see why the ussf could look down on this competition becuz the gold cup is **** compared to the copa american and i dont think you guys will see no f*cking usa vs mexico game maybe a brazil vs argentina is more like it;)

Originally posted by footballhell77
are you guys kidding me usa will get killed in the copa america becuz the south american team use their top players and i dont see why the ussf could look down on this competition becuz the gold cup is **** compared to the copa american and i dont think you guys will see no f*cking usa vs mexico game maybe a brazil vs argentina is more like it;)
The only teams in South America right now that are clearly better than USA and Mexico are Brazil and Argentina. Of course we're gonna get killed by Brazil and Argentina. But as for our chances vs. the rest of the teams, I think both Mexico and USA will prove to be worthy opponents.

Now that I think about it though, Mexico DID Lose 3-1 to Peru... so I dunno... :p :D :evil:

Originally posted by footballhell77
are you guys kidding me usa will get killed in the copa america becuz the south american team use their top players and i dont see why the ussf could look down on this competition becuz the gold cup is **** compared to the copa american and i dont think you guys will see no f*cking usa vs mexico game maybe a brazil vs argentina is more like it;) Ignorance is Bliss.:)

Originally posted by Run DMB
The only teams in South America right now that are clearly better than USA and Mexico are Brazil and Argentina. Of course we're gonna get killed by Brazil and Argentina. But as for our chances vs. the rest of the teams, I think both Mexico and USA will prove to be worthy opponents.

Now that I think about it though, Mexico DID Lose 3-1 to Peru... so I dunno... :p :D :evil:

I wouldn't look past Uruguay, maybe Ecuador (on a good day give you some trouble), Colombia (if they feel like playing), Paraguay, Chile (tied Argentina at home for the WCQ), heck why not even Peru (reasons stated above.)

Originally posted by PScott
Curb your enthusiasm. Last time we were invited to this tourny, the USSF turned down the invite. So this could be worthless.

They'll be there. There were afraid to go because of the situation in Colombia. Many teams did not take their best players, hell Argentina pulled out of the tournament. All the teams will bring all their top players and I believe the US will accept the invitation.

Stunna, aren't we automatic invites into the tournament?

Originally posted by Run DMB
Now that I think about it though, Mexico DID Lose 3-1 to Peru... so I dunno... :p :D :evil:

It was a friendly match. I'm not trying to take anything away from Peru's victory. They did well but we've done very well to hold our own in the Copa America. We'll be alright.

Mexico is automatic, just have to wait and see if the Americans will go to Peru.

Originally posted by LOCOlombia
Mexico is automatic, just have to wait and see if the Americans will go to Peru.

I thought so. Thanks. :mrpimp:

Originally posted by LOCOlombia
I wouldn't look past Uruguay, maybe Ecuador (on a good day give you some trouble), Colombia (if they feel like playing), Paraguay, Chile (tied Argentina at home for the WCQ), heck why not even Peru (reasons stated above.)
Yeah, South America has a lot of quality national teams which would be tough opposition. Paraguay and Urugually especially. Colombia, like you said, 'if they feel like playing'. But they're not teams we would get killed by, as footballhell77 suggested.

For the record, USA has defeated Ecuador, Uruguay and Parguay within the last two years. Granted, those were all friendlies and they don't really count but at least they tell you something about where the teams are at. I'm really looking forward to this tournament (if USSF accepts the invitation). And it better be televised in the US or some heads are gonna roll. :f***:

Originally posted by Run DMB
And it better be televised in the US or some heads are gonna roll. :f***:

I'm pretty sure that Univision, Telefutura, and Galavision will broadcast the matches.

Originally posted by ManU2000
It was a friendly match.
I know. I couldn't resist. :$ :) :p

I just had to bring it up.

What happens if Mexico or the US wins it?

Originally posted by ImmUniTy
What happens if Mexico or the US wins it?
Some coaches will get fired. ;)

But seriously, if Mexico or the US wins it that means a CONCACAF team won a CONMEBOL tournament. That is obviously an impossible statement and it will create a paradox, which will then cause the entire universe to collapse.

That's my theory. :mrpimp:

Originally posted by ImmUniTy
What happens if Mexico or the US wins it?

Then we win the tournament. :crazyboy:

What do you mean though? :confused:

Its just logic they will be invited back to the next COPA America but I mean. They arent even from the South Amercian Division. I dunno :crazyboy:

Originally posted by ImmUniTy
Its just logic they will be invited back to the next COPA America but I mean. They arent even from the South Amercian Division. I dunno :crazyboy:

If the US or Mexico happens to win the tournament, they win. But as to who will represent South America in the Confederations Cup, if the 2nd place team is from South America, they will represent the region as the US and Mexico are invitees. Is that what you meant?

I just hope so. :D

i wanna see usa and mexico face top teams in europe LIKE france, italy, england, spain, holland with their top stars

i hope both USA and Mexico accept the invitation;it will be nice to have them in the cup again;although the copa America lately has been losing interest,in the last copa Argentina didnt participate and some teams like Paraguay take the young players to prepare them for the future whci is not bad but takes some emotion away

vs. Brazil and Argentina i say we play a 10 man back line. Take a point and walk off looking smug. :p

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
vs. Brazil and Argentina i say we play a 10 man back line. Take a point and walk off looking smug. :p
Yeah, here's my line-up:

--------------------------Howard---------------------------



-----Gibbs------Pope------Bocanegra----Vanney------
Cherundolo----------Mastroeni-----------------Convey



-------------------------------------------O'Brien-----------
-----------Reyna--------------------------------------------



--------------------------Donovan--------------------------


;)

I hope the USA accepts the invite. The more games they play, the more experience they get. Plus, I would love to see Mexico get beat again by the US. You Mexico fans really need to get over the fact that the US has owned Mexico for 3 years now. Sure, they didn't win the Gold Cup, but Mexico didn't even have to travel one minute for their games. That tournament setup was bogus and clearly set up to benefit Mexico.

But otherwise, I think the USA would handle itself just fine in the tourny.

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
Maybe now we'll be able to see a USA vs Mexico final :brow:

Dont Get too ahead of yourself, U.S.A. and Mexico fans

you are not playing pussy teams like Cuba or Honduras any more

hey!! Cuba is awesome!!

:rockman:

Originally posted by rusi_88
Dont Get too ahead of yourself, U.S.A. and Mexico fans

you are not playing pussy teams like Cuba or Honduras any more

Obviously, but we've been either 2nd or 3rd the past couple of tournaments (mostly 3rd :crazyboy: ). Don't count us out. ;)

Same goes for the US. We are basically at the same level so no one should underestimate them.

Here is an idea, how bout since USA turned it down, how bout inviting Australia, since we never get to compete in an actual respectable confederation tournament, it would be prefect to get ready for WC qualifies, and bring closer links to the confederations

Originally posted by danza108
Here is an idea, how bout since USA turned it down, how bout inviting Australia, since we never get to compete in an actual respectable confederation tournament, it would be prefect to get ready for WC qualifies, and bring closer links to the confederations
Because inviting a team from Oceania makes soooo much more sense, than inviting one from CONCACAF. :rolleyes:

It's not our fault the Aussies are stuck in a **** confederation. :D

Last time we were in Copa America we beat the Argies and finished 4th. But that was back in the day though.

Originally posted by bjmenge
Because inviting a team from Oceania makes soooo much more sense, than inviting one from CONCACAF. :rolleyes:

It's not our fault the Aussies are stuck in a **** confederation. :D

But if the Americans arent goin to accept, there is still room for wildcard entry, and ideal for maybe an Australian invite. I remember watchin all those times on the 'On the World Game' with Johnny Warren saying Australia needs to participate more in other federations competitions, through wildcard entries, such as Asian Cup or CONCAF Gold Cup (The previous few have had Brazilian U23 and South Korea, right?). Like COPA America always invites teams from CONCAF, so maybe if the Americans arent goin to accept, it would be good to look at the Australians. Like the last one, Hondurus, Costa Rica, mexico all played, with the exception of Mexico, i think Australia is about the level of those countries, if not better, it could boast the competition level and give a new experience for Australia

If the US turns down the invite, I see Costa Rica coming back, I wonder why they never invite Spain.

The USSF better accept this invitation as it would be a good experience for our players.

If the USSF declines, Costa Rica will probably get invited.

Originally posted by Elder
I hope the USA accepts the invite. The more games they play, the more experience they get. Plus, I would love to see Mexico get beat again by the US. You Mexico fans really need to get over the fact that the US has owned Mexico for 3 years now. Sure, they didn't win the Gold Cup, but Mexico didn't even have to travel one minute for their games. That tournament setup was bogus and clearly set up to benefit Mexico.

But otherwise, I think the USA would handle itself just fine in the tourny.
Well US fan if you guys can afford your own US stadium then you would not be complaining right? Did you guys get STUNNED when you didn't make it to the finals in the Gold Cup? I would say the same thing to you. Your Gold Cup chances were set when your 100%Immigrant team played in US territory but your excuse is because why? Oh yeah cuz you had to travel from stadium to stadium Good excuse Loser! Viva Mexico Cabrones!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by rusi_88
Dont Get too ahead of yourself, U.S.A. and Mexico fans

you are not playing pussy teams like Cuba or Honduras any more
Yeah just like your team Real Madrid thougth you were playing a pussy team like Osasuna last year (Managed by a Mexican Javier Aguirre) and what happened you got your ass SHUTOUT 1-0 Baby :Bow: . Oh! and what about Barcelona? they thought they were playing a pussy team like America (Mex.) and what happened? Just an other shutout Amigo 2-0. So what you Gonna say now Loser?

Originally posted by USA Supporter
The USSF better accept this invitation as it would be a good experience for our players.

If the USSF declines, Costa Rica will probably get invited. :confused: WHO? Never heard of them. Are they the water boys or what?

Originally posted by Blanco150
Yeah just like your team Real Madrid thougth you were playing a pussy team like Osasuna last year (Managed by a Mexican Javier Aguirre) and what happened you got your ass SHUTOUT 1-0 Baby :Bow: . Oh! and what about Barcelona? they thought they were playing a pussy team like America (Mex.) and what happened? Just an other shutout Amigo 2-0. So what you Gonna say now Loser?

So by your saying just cuz Osasuna beat us in 1 game we suck:rolleyes:

Wow now let me ask your something else who won the league?!?!?!? Real Madrid biatch.:mrpimp:

Who gives a **** about barca they suck anyways.:mrpimp:

Originally posted by rusi_88
Dont Get too ahead of yourself, U.S.A. and Mexico fans

you are not playing pussy teams like Cuba or Honduras any more

i guess i did get ahead of myself by saying USA would be in the final. :p

But Mexico has already been to 2 finals, and we would have won the 2001 Copa America if we wouldnt have been cheated. 3 of our starters were sent off in the semifinal game (c'mon, we're not even that dirty).

But i hope USA and Mexico get far so people can start giving CONCACAF a little more credit than they currently do.

i remember some years ago CONMEBOL wanted to invite Portugal and Spain to Copa America. :)

If two of those three was Blanco and Bogertti I'd have to disagree with your "c'mon, we're not even that dirty" statement.(H)

i wont be surpriced, if mexico makes it far, even if the US accepts the invite they can beat most south american teams, so i see both teams makin it at least to the 2nd round (of cource Mexico will make it further :p (H) )

Originally posted by BRAZIL'S_#9
If two of those three was Blanco and Bogertti I'd have to disagree with your "c'mon, we're not even that dirty" statement.(H)

Believe it or not it wasnt them, it was (though u might not know them) Aspe, De Nigris and amoeother player that i cant remember.

But it could have been Borgetti, but none of the Uruguayan defenders were pushing him around like the Brazilian defenders in the Gold Cup. :p

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
Believe it or not it wasnt them, it was (though u might not know them) Aspe, De Nigris and amoeother player that i cant remember.

But it could have been Borgetti, but none of the Uruguayan defenders were pushing him around like the Brazilian defenders in the Gold Cup. :p

I still remember that goal Borgetti scored against Uruguay in the last Copa America. Was incredible. :rockman: :rockman: (H)

why is this guy talking about mexican teams cuz they won against some spanish team in a FRIENDLY WOW thats so cool lol mexican teams suck they maybe be ok and all but any argentine or brazilian club would be more respect from me anyways. Even those mls teams could beat them boys from mexico so shut up

Originally posted by TottiNZidaneR#1
So by your saying just cuz Osasuna beat us in 1 game we suck:rolleyes:

Wow now let me ask your something else who won the league?!?!?!? Real Madrid biatch.:mrpimp:

Who gives a **** about barca they suck anyways.:mrpimp:
I know you will never say how you felt when OSASUNA kicked your ass cuz Real Madrid think they could beat anybody and think they are the big kaka. But I tell you this Im very proud of the Coach of Osasuna (JAVIER AGUIRRE) cuz he's Mexican and he showed you guys what kind of strategy us Mexicans got to SHUT YOU GUYS OUT :rockman: 1-0 Baby!!!!!!!!!!(H)

Originally posted by footballhell77
Even those mls teams could beat them boys from mexico so shut up

Do you have any scores to prove that? :rolleyes:

Morelia(MEX) 6 - Columbus Crew(USA) 0

LA Galaxy(USA) 1 - Necaxa(MEX) 4

From 1997:
Cruz Azul 5-3 Los Angeles Galaxy

Necaxa 2, Los Angeles 1

:mrpimp:

Yes they can but they haven't done too well so far.

I've got some more scores, just for you.

Santos(MEX) 2-1 KC Wizards (USA)

Pachuca(MEX) 3-0 SJ Earthquakes(USA)

Morelia(MEX) 2-0 Chicago Fire(USA)

Morelia(MEX) 6-1 KC Wizards(USA)

;)

Originally posted by footballhell77
why is this guy talking about mexican teams cuz they won against some spanish team in a FRIENDLY WOW thats so cool lol mexican teams suck they maybe be ok and all but any argentine or brazilian club would be more respect from me anyways. Even those mls teams could beat them boys from mexico so shut up
It's like you talking out of your ButtWhole Amigo you dont know anything about soccer if your talking about MLS. Who the HEll is MLS? They cant even reach our TOE nails. MLS Sucks! We have Club Champions Competition over here in North America and the MLS teams tried to play us and what happenned? We WHOOPED ASS! Two Mexican teams ended up in the final and they just decided not to play because it would be a waste of time. If only the MLS would give us competition but Oh well lets go to Spain and WHoop some ass right BARCELONA? 2-0 Aguilas America (MEX).:Bow:

these guys still tlaking about that 2 to 0 score againt barcelona when they played in mexico lol :kader: Barcelona aint that good anyways and they played in mexico so what if america won WHO CARES

we will see if a mexican team wins the copa libertodores

sstupid mexico :kader: :kader: i hate mexico as a team but not mexicans but dont get me wrong they are a ok team and all but i still hate them and they still wont win the copa libertedores anyways:mrpimp: :mrpimp: :mrpimp: :mrpimp:

Originally posted by footballhell77
sstupid mexico :kader: :kader: i hate mexico as a team but not mexicans but dont get me wrong they are a ok team and all but i still hate them and they still wont win the copa libertedores anyways:mrpimp: :mrpimp: :mrpimp: :mrpimp:

Do you know ANYTHING at all about Mexican football?

Originally posted by footballhell77
these guys still tlaking about that 2 to 0 score againt barcelona when they played in mexico lol :kader: Barcelona aint that good anyways and they played in mexico so what if america won WHO CARES
What you trying to say NIKE. YOU SCARED TO GO TO MEXICO and PLAY a Soccer Match? Altitude is your excuse to? Let me make it esiear for you. How about if we go and play in SPAIN? Is that better? Will send you Las CHIVAS RAYADAS DE GUADALAJARA better. They are all 100% Mexican they dont need any foreign players to win titles. Does 10 All-Time titles sound good to you? It's a record over here in Mexico. Im pretty sure your team needs foreign players to win a title right?:rockman:

dude i dont have a team LIKE I SAID I WATCH GOOD FOOTBALL i just enjoy seeing good team play i dont have a team if i did im sure my foreign based squad would take out your mexicanos anyday LOL :crazyboy:

i wonder why the mexican league dont have european based players tho mmhhh:confused: lol:D

Originally posted by footballhell77
i wonder why the mexican league dont have european based players tho mmhhh:confused: lol:D
DONT NEED THEM!!!!:D :rolleyes: We do have Spain guys though. They are not very good either.

Originally posted by ManU2000
Morelia(MEX) 6 - Columbus Crew(USA) 0

LA Galaxy(USA) 1 - Necaxa(MEX) 4

Cruz Azul 5-3 Los Angeles Galaxy

Necaxa 2, Los Angeles 1

Santos(MEX) 2-1 KC Wizards (USA)

Pachuca(MEX) 3-0 SJ Earthquakes(USA)

Morelia(MEX) 2-0 Chicago Fire(USA)

Morelia(MEX) 6-1 KC Wizards(USA)
Nice list, I like this one better:

LA Glaxy 4-1 Santos

DC United 2-0 Leon

DC United 1-0 Toluca ('98 Champions Cup final)

San Jose Earthquakes 1-0 Pachuca

Chicago Fire 2-1 Morelia

Kansas City Wizards 2-0 Santos Laguna

Columbus Crew 2-0 Monarcas Morelia

:read:

Oh yeah you also forgot to mention the CONCACAF Cup is scheduled in a way which is screwing over USA teams. It starts early so Mexican teams, which are well into their season face American teams which are in pre-season. That's really a fair way to compare two leagues. :rolleyes:

Having said that, I still think the Mexican league is better. But not as much better as some people are trying to make it out to be.

The MLS isn't bad really. I would like to see some of the teams play in the Libertadores just to see how good they really are.

Just for the record, I don't hate the MLS so lighten up a little. :mrpimp:

Originally posted by ManU2000
The MLS isn't bad really. I would like to see some of the teams play in the Libertadores just to see how good they really are.
I would too... except the f*ckers rejected us! :D

:f***:

It's understandable I guess, since it took them so long to allow Mexican clubs in the competition.

Originally posted by Run DMB
I would too... except the f*ckers rejected us! :D

:f***:

It's understandable I guess, since it took them so long to allow Mexican clubs in the competition.

MLS will get its chance eventually. Well, at least I think it will.

Originally posted by Run DMB
Nice list, I like this one better:

LA Glaxy 4-1 Santos

DC United 2-0 Leon

DC United 1-0 Toluca ('98 Champions Cup final)

San Jose Earthquakes 1-0 Pachuca

Chicago Fire 2-1 Morelia

Kansas City Wizards 2-0 Santos Laguna

Columbus Crew 2-0 Monarcas Morelia

:read:

Oh yeah you also forgot to mention the CONCACAF Cup is scheduled in a way which is screwing over USA teams. It starts early so Mexican teams, which are well into their season face American teams which are in pre-season. That's really a fair way to compare two leagues. :rolleyes:

Having said that, I still think the Mexican league is better. But not as much better as some people are trying to make it out to be.
EXCUSES EXCUSES DUDE Just face the fact that you guys SUCK dont make up excuses and just deal with it ANUS!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Blanco150
EXCUSES EXCUSES DUDE Just face the fact that you guys SUCK dont make up excuses and just deal with it ANUS!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?s=&postid=388689

STOP TRYING TO BACK UP MLS LOOK AT THE STATISTICS MEXICAN LEAGUE RULES ALL OF YOU LOSERS.

Originally posted by Blanco150
EXCUSES EXCUSES DUDE Just face the fact that you guys SUCK dont make up excuses and just deal with it ANUS!!!!!!!!!!
I think we have a Mexican version of USA Supporter. What an idiot.

Hey Blanco...
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?s=&postid=393419

Originally posted by Blanco150
STOP TRYING TO BACK UP MLS LOOK AT THE STATISTICS MEXICAN LEAGUE RULES ALL OF YOU LOSERS.
Umm, how old is the Mexican League? How old is MLS? I'd say for being less than 10 years old, MLS is doing pretty damn good. Now **** off, until you come up with something worthwhile and intelligent to say.

:alex: GRRRRRRRRRR! Hey that was a COOL picture SO right back atcha LOSER!!!!:rockman:

is this tourney televised on tv in the us?

Originally posted by ManU2000
I'm pretty sure that Univision, Telefutura, and Galavision will broadcast the matches.

;)

Originally posted by FC_Steaua_1947
is this tourney televised on tv in the us?
NOPE!

Shut the **** up. Everybody has had enough of your ****.

All the other mexicans (Manu2000 and Stunna) are arguing with intelligence and respect. You should try the same.

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Shut the **** up. Everybody has had enough of your ****.

All the other mexicans (Manu2000 and Stunna) are arguing with intelligence and respect. You should try the same.

i just love how this turned into a Mexico/USA bashing thread. :p

And now u guys know what we go through with "USA Supporter"...annoying isnt it? ;)

And thanks for the praise Flyer :mrpimp: :D

Just look at his user name. That's all you have to say when dealing with this assclown.

Originally posted by Caponedawg
Just look at his user name. That's all you have to say when dealing with this assclown.
Which one? :confused:

They're both ass clowns.

Blanco

IMO the US should definately go since this is a perfect warmup for the Worldcup, since there is a bigger supply of harder teams in Conmebol...

Originally posted by SB9Dragon
IMO the US should definately go since this is a perfect warmup for the Worldcup, since there is a bigger supply of harder teams in Conmebol...

thats true, thats why Mexico hates playing in CONCACAF tournaments, club wise and with national teams.

Originally posted by Blanco150
I know you will never say how you felt when OSASUNA kicked your ass cuz Real Madrid think they could beat anybody and think they are the big kaka. But I tell you this Im very proud of the Coach of Osasuna (JAVIER AGUIRRE) cuz he's Mexican and he showed you guys what kind of strategy us Mexicans got to SHUT YOU GUYS OUT :rockman: 1-0 Baby!!!!!!!!!!(H)

Uh must i remind you from the world cup 2002 USA 2-0 Mexico it shows how the USA SHUT YOU GUYS OUT:rockman: (H) Oh yea.

The reason why USA/Mexico is always a big game is because of the rivalry and the fact they're the only two "good" teams in NA.

Originally posted by TottiNZidaneR#1
Uh must i remind you from the world cup 2002 USA 2-0 Mexico it shows how the USA SHUT YOU GUYS OUT:rockman: (H) Oh yea.

quit living in the past. :rolleyes: :p :(

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
quit living in the past. :rolleyes: :p :(

They never will.

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
quit living in the past. :rolleyes: :p :(

I aint lving in the past. that blanco idiot would not shut up about the RM game so i had to remind him of WC 2002 to shut him up.:)

is everyone arguing how America has owned Mexico for the past 3 years? Sorry Mexico fans, but it is true, whether or not you won the gold cup without having to travel and being in your home stadium the whole time. :D

Originally posted by Elder
is everyone arguing how America has owned Mexico for the past 3 years?

whats a longer time span, cuz i'm not sure. 3 years or from the beginning of soccer up until 3 years ago? So dont base your "owned" statement on 1 WC match and a few pointless friendlies. When USA has done as much as Mexico then u can talk.

Originally posted by Elder
Sorry Mexico fans, but it is true, whether or not you won the gold cup without having to travel and being in your home stadium the whole time. :D

USA was also home, they just couldnt use that home field advantage to their...well...advantage. :p

didn't Mexico win the cup once?

Originally posted by koishki
didn't Mexico win the cup once?

The Gold Cup, World Cup or Copa America?

Gold Cups: 4
Copa Americas: 0 (2 second places)
World Cups: 0

whats a longer time span, cuz i'm not sure. 3 years or from the beginning of soccer up until 3 years ago? So dont base your "owned" statement on 1 WC match and a few pointless friendlies. When USA has done as much as Mexico then u can talk.

Sorry man, but I don't care about "past" history. That is because it is in the PAST. And the US did win in the world cup which matters the most. I know Mexico had a good team in the past and dominated CONCACAF, but that just isn't the case anymore, you need to realize it.

USA was also home, they just couldnt use that home field advantage to their...well...advantage.


I hardly consider Miami "home." And they did have to travel to that game, unlike Mexico who just sat in Mexico City. It wasn't a fair way to organize the tournament. I think they should do it in one place, or close to one place so that the teams have a fair advantage.

Originally posted by Elder
Sorry man, but I don't care about "past" history. That is because it is in the PAST. And the US did win in the world cup which matters the most.

then i dont care about past history either, i care what has happened in the last couple of months...like Mexico winning the Gold Cup and USA getting 3rd place.

Originally posted by Elder
I know Mexico had a good team in the past and dominated CONCACAF, but that just isn't the case anymore, you need to realize it.

Believe me, Mexico is still dominating, its just that now they have USA giving them a run for their money. So now CONCACAF is run by 2 counrties

Originally posted by Elder
I hardly consider Miami "home." And they did have to travel to that game, unlike Mexico who just sat in Mexico City. It wasn't a fair way to organize the tournament. I think they should do it in one place, or close to one place so that the teams have a fair advantage.

Then what would u consider USA's home? U could put Mexico to play in any Mexican city, and the results would be the same.

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
World Cups: 0
No, really? :rolleyes:














j/k ;) :p

Then what would u consider USA's home? U could put Mexico to play in any Mexican city, and the results would be the same.

Do you know anything about Miami? It's not a place for American soccer fans, let's put it that way. I actually don't know where home for the US is. Anywhere that isn't on the coast I would assume.


then i dont care about past history either, i care what has happened in the last couple of months...like Mexico winning the Gold Cup and USA getting 3rd place.

But Mexico didn't have to play the US so it is a tainted victory as it relates to this discussion. And really, what was more important? Getting beat at the World Cup 2 - 0 or winning the Gold Cup while not having to play the US? Come on now, just admit it...

Believe me, Mexico is still dominating, its just that now they have USA giving them a run for their money. So now CONCACAF is run by 2 counrties

The US is stealing their money at this point. Again, I think Mexico has one win in the past 3 years or so. Just look it up!

Originally posted by Elder
Do you know anything about Miami? It's not a place for American soccer fans, let's put it that way. I actually don't know where home for the US is. Anywhere that isn't on the coast I would assume.

i wasnt saying that Miami is their home, i wanted your opinion ob what USa's home was, cuz i sure as hell dont know

Originally posted by Elder
But Mexico didn't have to play the US so it is a tainted victory as it relates to this discussion. And really, what was more important? Getting beat at the World Cup 2 - 0 or winning the Gold Cup while not having to play the US? Come on now, just admit it...

its a continental tournament, its not Mexico's fault USA wasnt able to beat Brazil. We beat the best team in the final *best considering they eliminated USA in the cup)

Originally posted by Elder
The US is stealing their money at this point. Again, I think Mexico has one win in the past 3 years or so. Just look it up!

USA victories: 9
Mexico victories: 27

i wasnt saying that Miami is their home, i wanted your opinion ob what USa's home was, cuz i sure as hell dont know

me neither, we are homeless!!



its a continental tournament, its not Mexico's fault USA wasnt able to beat Brazil. We beat the best team in the final *best considering they eliminated USA in the cup)

That's a good point, but again, Mexico didn't have to travel and our discussion is one the US and Mexico playing each other. Not Mexico and the US playing Brazil.

Originally posted by Elder
whats a longer time span, cuz i'm not sure. 3 years or from the beginning of soccer up until 3 years ago? So dont base your "owned" statement on 1 WC match and a few pointless friendlies. When USA has done as much as Mexico then u can talk.

Sorry man, but I don't care about "past" history. That is because it is in the PAST. And the US did win in the world cup which matters the most. I know Mexico had a good team in the past and dominated CONCACAF, but that just isn't the case anymore, you need to realize it.

USA was also home, they just couldnt use that home field advantage to their...well...advantage.


I hardly consider Miami "home." And they did have to travel to that game, unlike Mexico who just sat in Mexico City. It wasn't a fair way to organize the tournament. I think they should do it in one place, or close to one place so that the teams have a fair advantage.
EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES BOOHOO LOSER!!!! Make your own stadium then so you can stop making EXCUSES!!!:rolleyes:

EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES BOOHOO LOSER!!!! Make your own stadium then so you can stop making EXCUSES

Who do you think made the stadium in Miami? Mexico? And what excuses? YOU STILL LOST IN THE WORLD CUP TO THE US 2- 0!!! Just get over your Mexican asses and realize that the USA has finally caught up to you and is surpassing you in the soccer world. Wow, the Gold Cup, you should be so proud!!

Then stop making excuses for why USA lost the Gold Cup/ You IDIOT! Get over the USA win okay AMIGO! Yes you Guys won Congratulations! USA finally does something. MEXICO CONCACAF KING!!:rockman:

Then stop making excuses for why USA lost the Gold Cup/ You IDIOT! Get over the USA win okay AMIGO! Yes you Guys won Congratulations! USA finally does something. MEXICO CONCACAF KING!!

Well at least you have pride in your team. But you are still an a**hole.

Originally posted by Elder
Then stop making excuses for why USA lost the Gold Cup/ You IDIOT! Get over the USA win okay AMIGO! Yes you Guys won Congratulations! USA finally does something. MEXICO CONCACAF KING!!

Well at least you have pride in your team. But you are still an a**hole.
YES whatever AMIGO have a great day :-puke:ELDERUSSF

USA in their last 7 games against Mexico: 5-1-1

I don't care what Mexico did when Hugo Sanchez played. I care what they have done recently, and what they have done is consistently gotten their asses kicked by the United States.

Also, you should support your own country. I doubt any of the Mexico fans here are actually from Mexico. You don't see people in other countries rooting for the USA, so why do we have these idiots here who root for other countries? It is just pathetic.

USA in their last 7 games against Mexico: 5-1-1

And that one loss came in Mexico city during World Cup qualifying. But if I remember right most of those games were shutouts for the USA, but 2-0 most of the time.

and what they have done is consistently gotten their asses kicked by the United States.

And that is why the Mexico fans are so disturbed and lash out by calling people idiots and losers.



Also, you should support your own country. I doubt any of the Mexico fans here are actually from Mexico. You don't see people in other countries rooting for the USA, so why do we have these idiots here who root for other countries? It is just pathetic.

Because most of the immigrants to this country don't give a rats ass about it and just come here for the opportunities. I don't know if there is anything wrong with that, but supporting the country in which you live might be nice once in awhile.

Originally posted by Elder




Because most of the immigrants to this country don't give a rats ass about it and just come here for the opportunities. I don't know if there is anything wrong with that, but supporting the country in which you live might be nice once in awhile.

Well i am an immigrant as well cuz my dad and mom came here or the opportunitites for me when i get older as i am now. I do support the US team thou never the less.

Originally posted by Elder
Because most of the immigrants to this country don't give a rats ass about it and just come here for the opportunities. I don't know if there is anything wrong with that, but supporting the country in which you live might be nice once in awhile.

:rolleyes:

So I guess I don't give a rat's ass then. Is that what you really think? Yeah, my parents came here looking for a better life. I love Mexico AND the US, what's wrong with that? Its just that I have always supported the Mexican National team, from when I was really young up until now and until the day I die. The US is my second team.

So I guess I don't give a rat's ass then. Is that what you really think? Yeah, my parents came here looking for a better life. I love Mexico AND the US, what's wrong with that? Its just that I have always supported the Mexican National team, from when I was really young up until now and until the day I die. The US is my second team.

Just read what I wrote here ---> I don't know if there is anything wrong with that from my previous post. I don't care what teams you support, but it seems to me that most Mexican fans are so belligerant towards anything other than their home team and can't face the fact that the USA has dominated them recently. That's all.

I personally love watching Holland and Germany play, but would never root for Holland over the US if they played against each other.

Originally posted by Elder
I don't care what teams you support, but it seems to me that most Mexican fans are so belligerant towards anything other than their home team and can't face the fact that the USA has dominated them recently.

Fair enough, its no secret that the US has played well against Mexico. I'm not going to deny that. We're going to go back to the way things were soon though. (H) ;)

USA and México are great teams, so i think they have great chances to win SouthAmerican championships...i would say that USA and México gonna "kick arse" all over the place.:rockman: :rockman:

WELCOME TO SG CALMIMERO

am i the only one that's glad there actually is a competitive rivalry between the us and mexico?

m i the only one that's glad there actually is a competitive rivalry between the us and mexico?

i love it, and it makes WC qualifying more interesting.

Fair enough, its no secret that the US has played well against Mexico. I'm not going to deny that. We're going to go back to the way things were soon though.

that could well be true my friend. the US is going to have a very young team now, and they will need to grow up fast.

Originally posted by Elder
that could well be true my friend. the US is going to have a very young team now, and they will need to grow up fast.

The same could be said about Mexico as well. We have some young players who do well in the league but just don't have the international experience. Qualifying for the next World Cup will be very interesting. :mrpimp:

Originally posted by ManU2000
The same could be said about Mexico as well. We have some young players who do well in the league but just don't have the international experience. Qualifying for the next World Cup will be very interesting. :mrpimp:

this is exactly what i'm saying! i'm glad we can now discuss this in a civil matter instead of insulting and barking at one another.

anyhow, i'm not very familiar with mexico's younger generation of internationals. but it will indeed be interesting, as the us team is starting their transition phase to a younger generation. it will be interesting to see how youngsters like donovan, beasley, convey, bocanegra, twellman, buddle, gibbs, martino, etc. do, as well as how the rivalry will continue to fold. one.

anyhow, i'm not very familiar with mexico's younger generation of internationals. but it will indeed be interesting, as the us team is starting their transition phase to a younger generation. it will be interesting to see how youngsters like donovan, beasley, convey, bocanegra, twellman, buddle, gibbs, martino, etc. do, as well as how the rivalry will continue to fold. one.

I think the younger US players are just going to get better. Gibbs, as far as I am concerned should be in the back with Bocanegra, Berhalter (maybe) Convey, and Cherundelo. With 3 of those guys already playing in Germany, that is a good sign. I think Convey and Boca will be in europe by next year.

Twellmen hasn't showed anything to me yet, Beasley will be in europe next year, and Donovan should try to go back. The German league is a very tough league and can maybe turn our players into some hard nose guys.

Don't know much about the Mexican national team, so someone inform us on the younger players.

Originally posted by Jedi Mind Trick
am i the only one that's glad there actually is a competitive rivalry between the us and mexico?

I am. It is a good rivalry and I always get excited for US-Mexico matches. I hope we have another friendly soon since we won't play them in qualifying for a while but it is unlikely.

Originally posted by USA Supporter
I don't care what Mexico did when Hugo Sanchez played. I care what they have done recently, and what they have done is consistently gotten their asses kicked by the United States.


i just love it how u only care about stuff that has happened around the time US began to dominate...what a coincidence. :rolleyes:

In that case i only care about the beginning of 2003 to now...we won the Gold Cup, USA ended up in 3rd place :tolleyes:

Originally posted by USA Supporter
Also, you should support your own country. I doubt any of the Mexico fans here are actually from Mexico. You don't see people in other countries rooting for the USA, so why do we have these idiots here who root for other countries? It is just pathetic.

whats pathetic here is how unaware u are about what country is south of here. And most of us have parents born and raised in Mexico, and probably grew up in border states. And we were raised around Mexican soccer. Who gives a fu*k if any of us were born in Mexico or not, culturally we were raised as if in Mexico, and Mexican soccer is a part of that cultural upbringing.

so stfu, and dont speak on what u know nothing about.

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
whats pathetic here is how unaware u are about what country is south of here. And most of us have parents born and raised in Mexico, and probably grew up in border states. And we were raised around Mexican soccer. Who gives a fu*k if any of us were born in Mexico or not, culturally we were raised as if in Mexico, and Mexican soccer is a part of that cultural upbringing.

so stfu, and dont speak on what u know nothing about.

well said Stunna (Y)

funny :D typical blind patriotic american supporter :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Elder
I think the younger US players are just going to get better. Gibbs, as far as I am concerned should be in the back with Bocanegra, Berhalter (maybe) Convey, and Cherundelo. With 3 of those guys already playing in Germany, that is a good sign. I think Convey and Boca will be in europe by next year.

Twellmen hasn't showed anything to me yet, Beasley will be in europe next year, and Donovan should try to go back. The German league is a very tough league and can maybe turn our players into some hard nose guys.

Don't know much about the Mexican national team, so someone inform us on the younger players. [/B] Gibbs over Pope. That's an... er um.... interesting idea. No thanks though. Berhalter over Pope. Ok now you're just yanking my chain right. Please tell me you're joking.

i agree. pope's still got a few years left in him and is a likely candidate to be the next captain. but i think elder was saying by the time 2006 comes around, if pope isn't playing, gibbs and bocanegra in the center of the defense will look very formidable.

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
i just love it how u only care about stuff that has happened around the time US began to dominate...what a coincidence. :rolleyes:

In that case i only care about the beginning of 2003 to now...we won the Gold Cup, USA ended up in 3rd place :rolleyes:

whats pathetic here is how unaware u are about what country is south of here. And most of us have parents born and raised in Mexico, and probably grew up in border states. And we were raised around Mexican soccer. Who gives a fu*k if any of us were born in Mexico or not, culturally we were raised as if in Mexico, and Mexican soccer is a part of that cultural upbringing.

so stfu, and dont speak on what u know nothing about.

:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

Exactly right. I know the guy is a moron but try to ignore him. Everything he says is a bunch of bullsh*t. :mrpimp:

Originally posted by Jedi Mind Trick
i agree. pope's still got a few years left in him and is a likely candidate to be the next captain. but i think elder was saying by the time 2006 comes around, if pope isn't playing, gibbs and bocanegra in the center of the defense will look very formidable. A lot of people dont know this, but Pope is immortal. Just thought id like to clue you guys in.


Seriously I shít you not.

heh :D

Brad Friedel IMMIGRANT
Brett Emerton IMMIGRANT
Tugay IMMIGRANT
Clint Mathis IMMIGRANT
Eddie Pope IMMIGRANT

Tim Howard: You will always be a MENSO!
If you want to get TECHNICAL, you yourself are an IMMIGRANT you IDIOT! Unless your from an INDIAN tribe? Which I doubt. About USA vs. Mexico IDIOT in the WC Qualifier I remember I was in my beautiful ranch in JALPA JALISCO MEXICO watching that game and if do recall correctly the score was 1-0 in favor of Mexico I still remember the goalkeepers knees buckling and the header by BORGETTI stunned all the Americans (ALL IMMIGRANTS) so get your facts straight before you say anything else IDIOT!
:Bow: MEXICO! MEXICO! MEXICO!

Originally posted by PScott
Gibbs over Pope. That's an... er um.... interesting idea. No thanks though. Berhalter over Pope. Ok now you're just yanking my chain right. Please tell me you're joking.
Alberto Medina (Striker)
Rafael Medina (Defender)
Luis Perez (Middle)
Rergis (Striker)
and many more I just dont remember right now.:rockman:

Originally posted by Blanco150
and many more I just dont remember right now.:rockman:

"Parejita" Lopez
Jair Garcia
Tomas Banda
Juan Carlos Medina
Juan Pablo Garcia
Fernando Arce
Diego Martinez
Moises Muñoz
Jesus Corona

just to name a few :D

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
"Parejita" Lopez
Jair Garcia
Tomas Banda
Juan Carlos Medina
Juan Pablo Garcia
Fernando Arce
Diego Martinez
Moises Muñoz
Jesus Corona

just to name a few :D
GOOG LIST STUNNA!
Hey I wish you the best of LUCK! I'm going for Toluca too. But Im hardcore CHIVAS! How did you get that banner you post all the time of TOLUCA?

Originally posted by Blanco150
How did you get that banner you post all the time of TOLUCA?

check your private messages

Gibbs over Pope. That's an... er um.... interesting idea. No thanks though. Berhalter over Pope. Ok now you're just yanking my chain right. Please tell me you're joking.

i don't expect to see Pope playing at all in the next world cup. Isn't he getting older? All I know is he keeps getting hurt and that just rushes it along. I would like to see a younger team in 2006, especially considering the US plan for winning the World CUp is 2010.

Brad Friedel IMMIGRANT
Brett Emerton IMMIGRANT
Tugay IMMIGRANT
Clint Mathis IMMIGRANT
Eddie Pope IMMIGRANT

Tim Howard: You will always be a MENSO!
If you want to get TECHNICAL, you yourself are an IMMIGRANT you IDIOT! Unless your from an INDIAN tribe? Which I doubt. About USA vs. Mexico IDIOT in the WC Qualifier I remember I was in my beautiful ranch in JALPA JALISCO MEXICO watching that game and if do recall correctly the score was 1-0 in favor of Mexico I still remember the goalkeepers knees buckling and the header by BORGETTI stunned all the Americans (ALL IMMIGRANTS) so get your facts straight before you say anything else IDIOT!
MEXICO! MEXICO! MEXICO!



I like how you don't know who those players listed are at the top of this post. But anyway, maybe you should lay off the "Idiot" stuff. That 1-0 win was the last time in 3 years that Mexico beat the USA, and during that same round of Qualifying you might remember, a 2-0 win in columbus was the game that knocked out campos. He was made to look like a fool by some rednecks from Georgia.

Personally, I wish home teams would always win. That way nobody goes home unhappy.

I made your KNEES buckle too!:) :D :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Blanco150
Brad Friedel IMMIGRANT
Brett Emerton IMMIGRANT
Tugay IMMIGRANT
Clint Mathis IMMIGRANT
Eddie Pope IMMIGRANT

Tim Howard: You will always be a MENSO!
If you want to get TECHNICAL, you yourself are an IMMIGRANT you IDIOT! Unless your from an INDIAN tribe? Which I doubt. About USA vs. Mexico IDIOT in the WC Qualifier I remember I was in my beautiful ranch in JALPA JALISCO MEXICO watching that game and if do recall correctly the score was 1-0 in favor of Mexico I still remember the goalkeepers knees buckling and the header by BORGETTI stunned all the Americans (ALL IMMIGRANTS) so get your facts straight before you say anything else IDIOT!
:Bow: MEXICO! MEXICO! MEXICO!

i see what you mean by saying everyone's technically an immigrant. but brad friedel, clint mathis, and eddie pope were born in the us dude. and what do emerton and tugay have to do with the us?

I am the son of an Immigrant. Does that make me an immigrant? Technically your definition is wrong. Considering that man wasn't conceived in America, but more likely in Africa somewhere, I guess the indians were once immigrants also. The first generation who comes to settle in another country is the immigrant.

By your definition, Mexicans may also be immigrants and should root for Spain instead of mexico. Why don't the Brazilian fans root for Portugal? The point is, it doesn't matter.

About Tugar and Emerton. He doesn't realize that they play for Blackburn Rovers and thinks they are Americans just because the US guy listed them.

INDIANS were the first people who ever lived in US territory before anybody else came.
Mexicans always lived in Mexico but Spainiards came to our country trying to take over but we refused to let ourselves and got back what we had. So Spainiards are trying to be like us.
It does not matter you are TECHNICALLY still immigrant if your parents came from somewhere else. I consider myself Mexican immigrant but I was born in California USA (Used to be MEXICAN territory). But because US law says if you are born in US your US citizen. Thats fine with me. It gives me all the benifits. In Mexico I get all the benefits just by having Mexican born parents thats what the Mexican law says. So if your INDIAN your a true US Citizen TECHNICALLY SPEAKING. But the law will say different cuz the white man wrote the law.;)

Bravo, I hate to be the one to tell you, but you really have no idea what you are talking about.

Just look up the defenition. And I really don't think the Spaniards wanted to be like Mexicans. I think they wanted your riches, and then wanted mexicans to be like Spaniards.

And sorry, but California is part of the USA, not Mexico. Therefore you are not an immigrant. Since I was also born in California, I guess I am mexican by your standards.

And how do you know the indians were the first to ever live in US territory? Maybe it was bigfoot.

... So anyway, back to Copa America... I'm hoping Uruguay will field a first team instead of more locals they want to show so they can sell to Europe.

wait...the first people that ever lived in america, didn't they cross over from russia? maybe i'm wrong.

anyways, blanco, please don't get into the whole "white man law" ish. and your parents may be immigrants and you might be from an immigrant family, but you're just as american as the next person. there's no such thing as a true us citizen anymore.

Originally posted by Elder
Bravo, I hate to be the one to tell you, but you really have no idea what you are talking about.

Just look up the defenition. And I really don't think the Spaniards wanted to be like Mexicans. I think they wanted your riches, and then wanted mexicans to be like Spaniards.

And sorry, but California is part of the USA, not Mexico. Therefore you are not an immigrant. Since I was also born in California, I guess I am mexican by your standards.

And how do you know the indians were the first to ever live in US territory? Maybe it was bigfoot.
I could tell you the whole history of MEXICO Amigo but Im here to talk about SOCCER so I will skip you question and let me just tell this. Spainiards fell in love with MEXICO and chose to stay here that is why some of us are called "Mestizos" cus some Spainiards married our Great great great great great great GRANDMOTHERS.
Also in Mid 1800's California, Arizona, New Mexico and some other northern states belonged to Mexico but our Stupid ass President back in those days decided to sell it to USA. Adios Amigo!

Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
... So anyway, back to Copa America... I'm hoping Uruguay will field a first team instead of more locals they want to show so they can sell to Europe.

i hope so too, cuz i didnt like how in 2001 Uruguay used a bunch of back ups. Cuz c'mon, u know they're not taking the cup seriously when they send in Carlos Maria Morales. :p

So, do you guys think we will see great upsets in this new version? I'm basing this after the first games of qualifying, Chile tied Argentina at home, Uruguay won their first game lost second, Bolivia spanked Colombia:( , Brazil barely won against Ecuador. Of course, all this if all the teams field their full squads, Brazil will probably continue their long tradition of u-23 selecaos, or I'm I getting to far ahead of myself here, and we still have a long time till July...:kader:

wow...USA & Mexico are the most common that are invited into such of this tourney. :mrpimp:

It's gonna be GREAT !! :p

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
i hope so too, cuz i didnt like how in 2001 Uruguay used a bunch of back ups. Cuz c'mon, u know they're not taking the cup seriously when they send in Carlos Maria Morales. :p

He was the only player that was playing outside of Uruguay at the time. And he didn't play all that well either.

Originally posted by LOCOlombia
So, do you guys think we will see great upsets in this new version? I'm basing this after the first games of qualifying, Chile tied Argentina at home, Uruguay won their first game lost second, Bolivia spanked Colombia:( , Brazil barely won against Ecuador. Of course, all this if all the teams field their full squads, Brazil will probably continue their long tradition of u-23 selecaos, or I'm I getting to far ahead of myself here, and we still have a long time till July...:kader:

I seriously doubt Brazil will not use their U-23 squad. Argentina and Uruguay will probably use only local players AGAIN, and I don't see the rest of the sides calling up their Euro based players. No one takes the cup seriously any more... :(

I think they should make it every 4 years instead, and bump it up to 16 teams.

I think you're right, and we will see a trend forming, that only the host country will take it seriously and have a slighty stronger squad than the rest with their domestic teams. But on the point of bumping it to 16 teams, i don't want to see that happening, the tradition will be lost.

Originally posted by Blanco150
Brad Friedel IMMIGRANT
Brett Emerton IMMIGRANT
Tugay IMMIGRANT
Clint Mathis IMMIGRANT
Eddie Pope IMMIGRANT

Tim Howard: You will always be a MENSO!
If you want to get TECHNICAL, you yourself are an IMMIGRANT you IDIOT! Unless your from an INDIAN tribe? Which I doubt. About USA vs. Mexico IDIOT in the WC Qualifier I remember I was in my beautiful ranch in JALPA JALISCO MEXICO watching that game and if do recall correctly the score was 1-0 in favor of Mexico I still remember the goalkeepers knees buckling and the header by BORGETTI stunned all the Americans (ALL IMMIGRANTS) so get your facts straight before you say anything else IDIOT!
:Bow: MEXICO! MEXICO! MEXICO!

Yeah, none of us are from here unless we are Native American so what is your point? However, I consider myself to be an American since my family has lived here for over 100 years. I don't see myself as an Irishman or a Spainard or the other nationalities in my backround. Anyway, in my signature, only 3 of the guys are Americans anyway. Emerton is Australian and Tugay is Turkish.

Wow, I like how you bring up the 1 game Mexico won in their last 7 against us. Maybe this picture will bring up a memory of a USA/Mexico match:

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/soccer/worldcup2002/img5439890.jpg



Do you know where that is from?










Well, if you don't, I'll tell you. That is Brian McBride celebrating during the USA's 2-0 win against Mexico in the 2002 World Cup.

Originally posted by USA Supporter
Yeah, none of us are from here unless we are Native American so what is your point? However, I consider myself to be an American since my family has lived here for over 100 years. I don't see myself as an Irishman or a Spainard or the other nationalities in my backround. Anyway, in my signature, only 3 of the guys are Americans anyway. Emerton is Australian and Tugay is Turkish.

Wow, I like how you bring up the 1 game Mexico won in their last 7 against us. Maybe this picture will bring up a memory of a USA/Mexico match:

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/soccer/worldcup2002/img5439890.jpg



Do you know where that is from?










Well, if you don't, I'll tell you. That is Brian McBride celebrating during the USA's 2-0 win against Mexico in the 2002 World Cup.


:clapwap: Beautiful comeback :clapwap:











:rolleyes: :rolleyes: NOT!!

Originally posted by USA Supporter
Yeah, none of us are from here unless we are Native American so what is your point? However, I consider myself to be an American since my family has lived here for over 100 years. I don't see myself as an Irishman or a Spainard or the other nationalities in my backround. Anyway, in my signature, only 3 of the guys are Americans anyway. Emerton is Australian and Tugay is Turkish.

Wow, I like how you bring up the 1 game Mexico won in their last 7 against us. Maybe this picture will bring up a memory of a USA/Mexico match:

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/soccer/worldcup2002/img5439890.jpg



Do you know where that is from?










Well, if you don't, I'll tell you. That is Brian McBride celebrating during the USA's 2-0 win against Mexico in the 2002 World Cup.



Mexicans in this board, this is the reason Mexico will always be the best in CONCACAF. Americans, Guatemalans, Salvadoreans, Hondurans, etc.. will always celebrate victory's over us like they've just won the World Cup. But anyways they could celebrate their wins while we win Cups.

Originally posted by ForzAmerica
Mexicans in this board, this is the reason Mexico will always be the best in CONCACAF. Americans, Guatemalans, Salvadoreans, Hondurans, etc.. will always celebrate victory's over us like they've just won the World Cup. But anyways they could celebrate their wins while we win Cups. Yeah, cause Mexico is always winning world cups. Sheesh they have so many, why do they even play anymore.

You Mehicans better enjoy it while it lasts. Too late maybe?

Ask yourself what has the US won? Nuff Said.

Originally posted by ForzAmerica
Ask yourself what has the US won? Nuff Said. What has Mehico won.

The question you posed is moot. We were discussing the match up of America vs Mehico.

Anyways since you Americans like stats.
Brazil has not beaten Mexico in almost four years. Does that mean we own Brazil?? are we better than Brazil??? The answer is No. And dont give me that we dont play each other often BS. We play Brazil atleast twice a year.

Originally posted by ForzAmerica
Anyways since you Americans like stats.
Brazil has not beaten Mexico in almost four years. Does that mean we own Brazil?? are we better than Brazil??? The answer is No. And dont give me that we dont play each other often BS. We play Brazil atleast twice a year. Have you played and beat them in a World Cup?

Originally posted by PScott
What has Mehico won.

The question you posed is moot. We were discussing the match up of America vs Mehico.

Mexico has won the CONCACAF Gold Cup FOUR times, The Confederations Cup ONCE, and TWENY times CONCACAF Champions Cup. And do you really think by saying 'Mehico' it will disrespect anyone? what are you 12?

Originally posted by PScott
Have you played and beat them in a World Cup?


No but we did play them in this years CONCACAF Gold Cup 2003 Final. Where was the US? :rolleyes:

Really. Those are good numbers. No one is denying that Mehico was better than the USA. Well now, now things have changed. Our national team has just recently even had pro players. Since then, we have undeniably progressed faster than most could have ever imagined, and really there is no sign of regression in the near future. So you Mehicanos can do the math.

Originally posted by ForzAmerica
No but we did play them in this years CONCACAF Gold Cup 2003 Final. Where was the US? :rolleyes: You beat a great U23 team where the US lost. That doesnt freaking matter. It was a U23 team. Yeah it was a bad loss for the USA, but that doesnt equate it to actually beating Brazil.

Heres the bottom line:

USA currently does have Mexicos number.

-The world cup is the highest stage. In 2002, Mexico and the US met in the second round. Both teams had a fair chance to win, both teams had time to prepare. US beat Mexico 2-0. We took the early lead, and like most teams in the world, began to defend. Mexico put on the pressure, we had a counterattack and Donovan scored. We won 2-0 fair and square. Therefore, US is up on Mexico. You always hear people saying, when can Mexico get their revenge on the US? The gold cup means ****. None of the top teams had their A team, and Mexico and the US never played, so the US is still up on Mexico. ----This is all true, and i stand by this 100%

The Mexican fans on this board just can't admit that other countries in the region are becoming as good, or better than they are. You never hear them talking about how Costa Rica beat them in Mexico City 2 years ago.

Mexico, in my opinion, is not progressing as a nation soccer wise. The US and many of the other countries are very quickly and Mexico had better watch out before it's too late. How many coaches has Mexico had lately? How many different players? We all kno wyou won the Gold Cup, whcih was rigged in your favor, but you still didn't play the US in that tournament. The US lost to Brazil, what a surprise! They never win against Brazil. But what is not suprising is that the Mexican team can't can't beat the US anymore.

End of story, now go cry in your nachos.

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
We won 2-0 fair and square.

thank god there wasnt a handball by the USA in the box that wasnt called and probably could have dramatically changed the outsome of the game. :rolleyes:

:crazyboy: (H) :mrpimp:

Originally posted by Elder
End of story, now go cry in your nachos.

i prefer crying in my tacos. :crazyboy:

Its a stupid arguement really. Both sides are good, and we just have to wait untill they meet again.

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Its a stupid arguement really. Both sides are good, and we just have to wait untill they meet again.

i agree USA has improved, nut i dont think either side is better, they each have their strengths and weaknesses, and noth are gonna start turning more heads.

I would love to see a Mexico & USA combo against another team, anyone interested in coming up with a mock lineup for a USA/Mexico team? :D

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
thank god there wasnt a handball by the USA in the box that wasnt called and probably could have dramatically changed the outsome of the game. :rolleyes:
Why you bringin up ol shít?:p

I like tacos too, but give me some hot sauce instead.

About the handball... That is just the way the ball bounces. While it maybe should have been called, the handball in the USA - Germany game was so blatently obvious and really did stop a goal from going in, it should have been called. So the calls were even in the end.

-----friedel-----





donovan

Someone else will have to fill in the rest.

Originally posted by PScott
-----friedel-----





donovan

Someone else will have to fill in the rest.

i was thinking of using 5 Mexicans and 6 Americans (since u guys won in the WC)

We'll do a 4-4-2 formation

Originally posted by Elder
I like tacos too, but give me some hot sauce instead.

About the handball... That is just the way the ball bounces. While it maybe should have been called, the handball in the USA - Germany game was so blatently obvious and really did stop a goal from going in, it should have been called. So the calls were even in the end. The Germany one was less blatant than the JOB one. The Germany one really could have gone either way. Ive moved past the Germany handball. Well other than the occassional night terror every now and then.

We'll put in 2 players at a time (these r my two)

...............................Friedal............ .........

...........D.........Marquez.........D.........D.. ............

............M...........M...........M............. M

..................Donovan.........Borgetti

Originally posted by Elder
The Mexican fans on this board just can't admit that other countries in the region are becoming as good, or better than they are. You never hear them talking about how Costa Rica beat them in Mexico City 2 years ago.

I agree, National Teams have been improving but they are not yet on our level.

Originally posted by Elder
Mexico, in my opinion, is not progressing as a nation soccer wise. The US and many of the other countries are very quickly and Mexico had better watch out before it's too late. How many coaches has Mexico had lately? How many different players? We all kno wyou won the Gold Cup, whcih was rigged in your favor, but you still didn't play the US in that tournament.

Mexico is in the top ten best Leagues in the world, how is that not progressing? You would say that in 1995 and people would laugh at you. Now as for coaches i agree, most of them have been ****ing crap at choosing the right players. For example Meza called alot of Toluca players who were all ****in crap with the national team. Aguirre called alot of Pachuca players. And now Ricardo Lavolpe is calling alot of Atlas and Toluca players. Its not that our coaches are bad but their player choices are ****in moronic. Either way if the Gold Cup was rigged its not Mexicos fault the US was eliminated by a Brazilian youth-23 team 2:1 which BTW should've been 4:1 if it wasnt for the ****in refs dissallowing 2 legit goals.

Originally posted by Elder
The US lost to Brazil, what a surprise! They never win against Brazil. But what is not suprising is that the Mexican team can't can't beat the US anymore.

If the US is better than Mexico dont you think they would've beaten Brazil? The US has faced Brazil Twice this year while Mexico has faced them three times. We beat them twice and tied once while the US lost both.

Originally posted by ForzAmerica

If the US is better than Mexico dont you think they would've beaten Brazil? The US has faced Brazil Twice this year while Mexico has faced them three times. We beat them twice and tied once while the US lost both. It's called matchups. Some teams match up better against others. Its like how Bolton pretty much owned ManU last year. Even though they owned ManU, everyone knows Bolton would get killed by Arsenal. Or something like that.

Originally posted by PScott
It's called matchups. Some teams match up better against others. Its like how Bolton pretty much owned ManU last year. Even though they owned ManU, everyone knows Bolton would get killed by Arsenal. Or something like that.

DAMN YOU Bolton!!!!!!!!!!:f***:

:crazyboy: :D

...............................Friedel............ .........

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........D...... ...D..............

............Arellano...........M...........M...... .......M

..................Donovan.........Borgetti

Chava Carmona and "El Cabrito" Arellano are my two players.

look, this thread is going nowhere.

mexico fans: sure you've been the dominant powerhouse in north america for ages. we all know that. sure you won the gold cup at home (where pretty much every team has a hard time playing due to altitude) against the brazilian u-23 team we couldn't beat. i'll give you credit for that. but times have changed, and i'm sure you understand that too. we'll just see what happens from now on.

us fans: we know where we stand. we know that we're moving in the right direction, and by taking the right steps, we know we can be a force to be reckoned with.

stand up nucca. one.

Originally posted by Jedi Mind Trick
look, this thread is going nowhere.

mexico fans: sure you've been the dominant powerhouse in north america for ages. we all know that. sure you won the gold cup at home (where pretty much every team has a hard time playing due to altitude) against the brazilian u-23 team we couldn't beat. i'll give you credit for that. but times have changed, and i'm sure you understand that too. we'll just see what happens from now on.

us fans: we know where we stand. we know that we're moving in the right direction, and by taking the right steps, we know we can be a force to be reckoned with.

stand up nucca. one.

well said! :D :mrpimp:

Friedel.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........D...... ...O'Brien..............

............Arellano...........M...........M...... .......Beasley

..................Donovan.........Borgetti

Doesn't O'Brien play as a defensive mid? :confused:

actually, i think o'brien's best position is in the center of the midfield...not necessarily a defensive mid. i think he plays as a left back for ajax..not sure since he's always injured...

Originally posted by Jedi Mind Trick
actually, i think o'brien's best position is in the center of the midfield...not necessarily a defensive mid. i think he plays as a left back for ajax..not sure since he's always injured...

oh, alright then

Originally posted by Jedi Mind Trick
actually, i think o'brien's best position is in the center of the midfield...not necessarily a defensive mid. i think he plays as a left back for ajax..not sure since he's always injured...

I have never seen him play cuz of his injures:kader: that must suck for him

my final pick:

............................................Friede l.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........D...... ...O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................M........ .........Beasley

..............................Donovan.........Borg etti

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
my final pick:

............................................Friede l.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........D...... ...O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................M........ .........Beasley

..............................Donovan.........Borg etti

You missing two players there:crazyboy: :D :mrpimp:

Originally posted by TottiNZidaneR#1
You missing two players there:crazyboy: :D :mrpimp:

i know, those are to be filled out by someone else

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
We'll put in 2 players at a time (these r my two)

That's how it works. ;)

Originally posted by TottiNZidaneR#1
I have never seen him play cuz of his injures:kader: that must suck for him

yea, he's always got tough luck.

Originally posted by Jedi Mind Trick
look, this thread is going nowhere.

mexico fans: sure you've been the dominant powerhouse in north america for ages. we all know that. sure you won the gold cup at home (where pretty much every team has a hard time playing due to altitude) against the brazilian u-23 team we couldn't beat. i'll give you credit for that. but times have changed, and i'm sure you understand that too. we'll just see what happens from now on.

us fans: we know where we stand. we know that we're moving in the right direction, and by taking the right steps, we know we can be a force to be reckoned with.

stand up nucca. one.

whoa! im impressed someone actually has a smart comment .....kudos! (Y)

............................................Friede l.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........D...... ...O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................Reyna.... .............Beasley

..............................Donovan.........Borg etti



I chose Reyna because he is a good leader, and passes the ball so damn well. You really hardly ever see him miss a pass.

Originally posted by Elder
............................................Friede l.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........D...... ...O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................Reyna.... .............Beasley

..............................Donovan.........Borg etti



I chose Reyna because he is a good leader, and passes the ball so damn well. You really hardly ever see him miss a pass.

any American have a good Left Center defender?

............................................Friede l.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........Bocaneg ra.........O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................Reyna.... .............Beasley

..............................Donovan.........Borg etti

Originally posted by PScott
............................................Friede l.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........Bocaneg ra.........O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................Reyna.... .............Beasley

..............................Donovan.........Borg etti

now thats what i call a team!

:rockman:

Originally posted by PScott
............................................Friede l.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........Bocaneg ra.........O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................Reyna.... .............Beasley

..............................Donovan.........Borg etti

That's pretty much the North American All-Star team. :mrpimp:

Originally posted by ManU2000
That's pretty much the North American All-Star team. :mrpimp:

yup...i doubt any Canadian would make the team. :D :mrpimp: :crazyboy:

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
yup...i doubt any Canadian would make the team. :D :mrpimp: :crazyboy:

hahahaha, that's cruel man. :D :crazyboy:


But it's true. (H) :mrpimp:

i would pick Owen hagreaves, but he decides to play for England instead.

how about that guy radzinkzy or staltieri? whoever plays with Werder Bremen ins Deutschland.

Nope neither of them would be in my nort america team.

Originally posted by Elder
i would pick Owen hagreaves, but he decides to play for England instead.

how about that guy radzinkzy or staltieri? whoever plays with Werder Bremen ins Deutschland.

Radzinsky maybe. As for Staltieri, from what I saw during the Gold Cup, nah. (H)

That's when he's compared to some of the other strikers in North America. I would put Wanchope, McBride ahead of Staltieri and there is surely more after those two.

I was just watching fox sportsworld, has anyone seen that Nike commercial with Tim Howard in it? boy is he a rising star, why is Freidel on our list?

Did you happen to watch the world cup of 2002? Thats why Friedel is on our list.

Yeah, I almot failed Biology because of the World Cup. But have you seen the Freidel of 2003 English Premier League? He's lost a bit, but I think he will get it back.

Have you seen Blackburn Rover's supposed defense this year? Yashin would concede 2 goas a game with that backline.

Originally posted by PScott
............................................Friede l.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez.........Bocaneg ra.........O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................Reyna.... .............Beasley

..............................Donovan.........Borg etti
Pope instead of Bocanegra. And I say this as a Fire fan.

A year or two from now, Bocanegra will probably be better. But right now, Pope is our best central defender.

they have been like a leaky faucet. but Freidel did get burned by 2 goals against Man City. At least Kellerhas 3 clean sheets in a row now.

@Elder - Well you pick the your keeper, and ill pick the best keeper.

@RunDmb - I swear, it came down to a flip of a coin(mentally, i didnt actually get out a coin and flip it.:) ). I really do think Boca is THAT good. Not only did he play magnificent in the back this year, he had 4 goals and 3 assists this year.

Originally posted by PScott
@RunDmb - I swear, it came down to a flip of a coin(mentally, i didnt actually get out a coin and flip it.:) ). I really do think Boca is THAT good. Not only did he play magnificent in the back this year, he had 4 goals and 3 assists this year.
Haha... I was hoping it was that close of a decision.

Here's what I think:

if we're talking just about defensive abilities, Pope wins. He and Bocanegra have very similar abilities when it comes to defending, but Pope has twice as much experience, which makes him the better defender. Because he's less experienced, Boca is more prone to making mistakes.

offensively, I would say Bocanegra delivers a little more than Pope; four goals this year certainly is impressive, but if Pope hadn't missed most of the NT matches, I could guarantee it would have been something like 2 for Boca, 2 for Pope. Boca is slightly better on set pieces though. When it comes to passing I would say the same thing. Bocanegra is better at passing the ball.

So the question really is what do you look for in a defender. If you want a guy you can always rely on defensively, Pope is better. If you want someone who is more likely to add to the offense, it's Bocanegra.

I'm just hoping we're gonna have them together during World Cup qualifying. :)

This is the official USFF/MFD Stars of North America line-up

............................................Friede l.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez......Bocanegra( or Pope).........O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................Reyna.... .............Beasley

..............................Donovan.........Borg etti

it is set in stone! :crazyboy:

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
any American have a good Left Center defender?
How about Agoos? :confused:



















:crazyboy:

Originally posted by bjmenge
How about Agoos? :confused:
For a second I thought you were serious. :D

:kader:

This is the official USFF/MFD Stars of North America line-up

............................................Sanche z.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez......Bocanegra( or Pope).........O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................Morales.. ...............Medina A.

..............................Blanco.........Borge tti

:rockman:

Since 98’ Hmmm Let’s see
9Games = 5Wins - 3 Losses – 1Tie MEXICO Rules! I could go more back if you want?

14/02/98 Los Angeles MEX 1-0 USA Copa De Oro
13/03/99 San Diego MEX 2-1 USA COPA U.S.A. 99
01/08/99 Mex D.F. MEX 1(0)-0(0) USA (GOL DE ORO) COPA CONFEDERACIONES
25/10/00 Los Angeles USA 0-2 MEX AMISTOSO
28/2/01 Ohio USA 2-0 MEX HEXAGONAL ELIMINATORIO
01/7/01 Mex D.F. Mex 1-0 USA HEXAGONAL
ELIMINATORIO
03/04/02 Denver USA 1-0 MEX AMISTOSO
17/06/02 Corea Mex 0-2 USA COPA DEL MUNDO 2002
08/05/03 Texas USA 0-0 MEX AMISTOSO

Since 99’ Hmmm Let’s see
8Games= 4 Wins – 2Losses – 2Ties MEXICO Really Rules!!

03/07/99 Ciudad Del Este MEX 1-2 BRASIL COPA AMERICA
13/07/99 Luque MEX 0-2 BRASIL COPA AMERICA
04/09/99 MEX D.F. MEX 4-3 BRASIL COPA CONFEDERACIONES
07/3/01 Guadalajara MEX 3-3 BRASIL AMISTOSO
12/7/01 Colombia. BRASIL 0-1 MEX COPA AMERICA 2001
30/04/03 Guadalajara, JAL. MEX 0-0 BRASIL AMISTOSO
13/07/03 Mex D.F. MEX 1-0 BRASIL COPA ORO 2003
27/07/03 Mex D.F. MEX 1-0 *Gol de oro BRASIL COPA ORO 2003
:Bow:Mexico Rules! and the numbers show it!!!

Originally posted by Blanco150
14/02/98 Los Angeles MEX 1-0 USA Copa De Oro
13/03/99 San Diego MEX 2-1 USA COPA U.S.A. 99
01/08/99 Mex D.F. MEX 1(0)-0(0) USA (GOL DE ORO) COPA CONFEDERACIONES
25/10/00 Los Angeles USA 0-2 MEX AMISTOSO
28/2/01 Ohio USA 2-0 MEX HEXAGONAL ELIMINATORIO
01/7/01 Mex D.F. Mex 1-0 USA HEXAGONAL
ELIMINATORIO
03/04/02 Denver USA 1-0 MEX AMISTOSO
17/06/02 Corea Mex 0-2 USA COPA DEL MUNDO 2002
08/05/03 Texas USA 0-0 MEX AMISTOSO
Hey dumbass, nobody is even arguing about this anymore. We stopped arguing two pages ago, and you seem to be the only one dense enough not have figured that out.
Originally posted by Blanco150
13/07/03 Mex D.F. MEX 1-0 BRASIL COPA ORO 2003
27/07/03 Mex D.F. MEX 1-0 *Gol de oro BRASIL COPA ORO 2003
ROTFLMAO!

So if Brazil played the Mexico U-23 and torched them 6-0 you'd count that as if they beat the Mexican national team 6-0. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Blanco150
This is the official USFF/MFD Stars of North America line-up

............................................Sanche z.....................

...........Carmona.........Marquez......Bocanegra( or Pope).........O'Brien..............

.......................................Torrado.... ........................

............Arellano.....................Morales.. ...............Medina A.

..............................Blanco.........Borge tti

:rockman:
How about...




















...NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW (H)

Originally posted by Blanco150
Since 98’ Hmmm Let’s see
9Games = 5Wins - 3 Losses – 1Tie MEXICO Rules! I could go more back if you want?

14/02/98 Los Angeles MEX 1-0 USA Copa De Oro
13/03/99 San Diego MEX 2-1 USA COPA U.S.A. 99
01/08/99 Mex D.F. MEX 1(0)-0(0) USA (GOL DE ORO) COPA CONFEDERACIONES
25/10/00 Los Angeles USA 0-2 MEX AMISTOSO
28/2/01 Ohio USA 2-0 MEX HEXAGONAL ELIMINATORIO
01/7/01 Mex D.F. Mex 1-0 USA HEXAGONAL
ELIMINATORIO
03/04/02 Denver USA 1-0 MEX AMISTOSO
17/06/02 Corea Mex 0-2 USA COPA DEL MUNDO 2002
08/05/03 Texas USA 0-0 MEX AMISTOSO

Since 99’ Hmmm Let’s see
8Games= 4 Wins – 2Losses – 2Ties MEXICO Really Rules!!

03/07/99 Ciudad Del Este MEX 1-2 BRASIL COPA AMERICA
13/07/99 Luque MEX 0-2 BRASIL COPA AMERICA
04/09/99 MEX D.F. MEX 4-3 BRASIL COPA CONFEDERACIONES
07/3/01 Guadalajara MEX 3-3 BRASIL AMISTOSO
12/7/01 Colombia. BRASIL 0-1 MEX COPA AMERICA 2001
30/04/03 Guadalajara, JAL. MEX 0-0 BRASIL AMISTOSO
13/07/03 Mex D.F. MEX 1-0 BRASIL COPA ORO 2003
27/07/03 Mex D.F. MEX 1-0 *Gol de oro BRASIL COPA ORO 2003
:Bow:Mexico Rules! and the numbers show it!!!

let it rest man. nobody cares anymore.

Originally posted by Blanco150
Since 98’ Hmmm Let’s see
9Games = 5Wins - 3 Losses – 1Tie MEXICO Rules! I could go more back if you want?

14/02/98 Los Angeles MEX 1-0 USA Copa De Oro
13/03/99 San Diego MEX 2-1 USA COPA U.S.A. 99
01/08/99 Mex D.F. MEX 1(0)-0(0) USA (GOL DE ORO) COPA CONFEDERACIONES
25/10/00 Los Angeles USA 0-2 MEX AMISTOSO
28/2/01 Ohio USA 2-0 MEX HEXAGONAL ELIMINATORIO
01/7/01 Mex D.F. Mex 1-0 USA HEXAGONAL
ELIMINATORIO
03/04/02 Denver USA 1-0 MEX AMISTOSO
17/06/02 Corea Mex 0-2 USA COPA DEL MUNDO 2002
08/05/03 Texas USA 0-0 MEX AMISTOSO

Since 99’ Hmmm Let’s see
8Games= 4 Wins – 2Losses – 2Ties MEXICO Really Rules!!

03/07/99 Ciudad Del Este MEX 1-2 BRASIL COPA AMERICA
13/07/99 Luque MEX 0-2 BRASIL COPA AMERICA
04/09/99 MEX D.F. MEX 4-3 BRASIL COPA CONFEDERACIONES
07/3/01 Guadalajara MEX 3-3 BRASIL AMISTOSO
12/7/01 Colombia. BRASIL 0-1 MEX COPA AMERICA 2001
30/04/03 Guadalajara, JAL. MEX 0-0 BRASIL AMISTOSO
13/07/03 Mex D.F. MEX 1-0 BRASIL COPA ORO 2003
27/07/03 Mex D.F. MEX 1-0 *Gol de oro BRASIL COPA ORO 2003
:Bow:Mexico Rules! and the numbers show it!!!

IIIIIIIIgggggggggggggggoooooooooooooorrrrrrrr

IGOR BISCAN!

IIIIIIGGGGGGOOOORRRRR, IGOR IGOR IGOR IGOR BISCAN!

IIIIIGGGGGOOOOORRRR BISCAN!!!!!!!!!

Looks like Bobby's just asked for the men in white coats to knock on his door :D

Just wanted to piss all you USSF fans off and tell you the real truth. So I did my job I rest my case;)

You remind me of Special edd from Crank yankers.

Hey everyone, I had to post this on another thread because Blanco has been lying. Here are the REAL stats for the past 13 years of USA vs Mexico games.


Actually Blanco, I decided to do some of my own research and found out that you LIED on your statisctics. It doesn't surprise me, but I will now giveyou the real stats from the past 13 years!!

3/12/91 -- USA 2-2 Mexico TIE
7/5/91 -- USA 2-0 Mexico WIN
7/25/93 -- USA 0-4 Mexico LOSS
10/13/93 -- USA 1-1 Mexico TIE
6/4/94 -- USA 1-0 Mexico WIN
6/18/95 -- USA 4-0 Mexico WIN
7/17/95 -- USA 0-0 Mexico (4-2 Pens)WIN
6/16/96 -- USA 2-2 Mexico TIE
1/19/97 -- USA 0-2 Mexico LOSS
4/20/97 -- USA 2-2 Mexico TIE
11/2/97 -- USA 0-0 Mexico TIE
2/15/98 -- USA 0-1 Mexico LOSS
3/13/99 -- USA 1-2 Mexico LOSS
8/1/99 -- USA 0-1 Mexico LOSS
6/11/00 -- USA 3-0 Mexico WIN
10/25/00 -- USA 2-0 Mexico WIN
2/28/01 -- USA 2-0 Mexico WIN
7/1/01 -- USA 0-1 Mexico LOSS
4/3/02 -- USA 1-0 Mexico WIN
6/17/02 -- USA 2-0 Mexico WIN WC
5/8/03 -- USA 0-0 Mexico TIE


So to sum it up for you Mexican fans, especially the ones who lie here is how it break down. Since 1991 the totals are...

Wins: USA - 9
Mexico - 6

Ties - 6

Total goals scored: USA - 25
Mexico - 18

USA Shutouts: 11
Mexico Shutouts: 8[B]

USA Losses Since 2000 - 1
Mxico Losses Since 2000 - 5



Now then, judging by these results, Mexico fans can now shut the hell up about their dominance over the USA National Team.

Good luck trying to argue these stats. I noticed how you switched around some of these scores to favor mexico in your post. NICE TRY


Now that we all know Blanco is a liar, let us please ignore all of his posts.

blanco, please explain yourself.

Check out my new THREAD. I know you saw it but just to tell others who read the error femexfut.org.mx did