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Rob
10-10-2003, 07:32:AM
Who is it?

PaPaGeorGeo
10-10-2003, 07:36:AM
Very hard to tell every club will have its good and bad moments. They can lose won week and become the worst club in the world then the next wekk they can win and become the best

Hendrik
10-10-2003, 07:38:AM
Inter in their domestic league

Arsenal in Europe :(

Virgo
10-10-2003, 07:38:AM
Barcelona - They still suck this season.

Man U - How they have so many fans across the world beats me.

RUSI
10-10-2003, 07:39:AM
Barcelona by the way they have played so far

santino
10-10-2003, 08:16:AM
Real Madrid! they make me sick! They to many "heros" on their team and they screw up......plus their central defence is terrible!!!!!!


ps. I feel a debate coming along, but oh well REAL SUCKS!!!!!!

Voltaic Borusse
10-10-2003, 08:20:AM
I believe Barca. is over-rated at the moment. Patrick Kluivert and all of the other players that have been their 5+ years are the reason as to why Barca. are playing poorly. Rikard is bound to get sacked.

PaPaGeorGeo
10-10-2003, 08:23:AM
Originally posted by santino
Real Madrid! they make me sick! They to many "heros" on their team and they screw up......plus their central defence is terrible!!!!!!


ps. I feel a debate coming along, but oh well REAL SUCKS!!!!!!

I think Roma is overated

Help?
10-10-2003, 08:24:AM
Barcelona are definietly overrated ATM.


And santino, your comment is just stupid. Just because the popular players agree to go there, doesn't mean that they are overrated or ****e. Their defense is pretty bad, but offense is one of the best. Plus this is overrated team thread, not the team that sucks in your opinion.

RUSI
10-10-2003, 08:24:AM
Originally posted by santino
Real Madrid! they make me sick! They to many "heros" on their team and they screw up......plus their central defence is terrible!!!!!!


ps. I feel a debate coming along, but oh well REAL SUCKS!!!!!!


Real are not overrated

look at the players.
sure it isnt the best defense in the world, but they have the offensive firepower to make up for it

Roma is also overrated

and Real do not "suck"

AhmedK
10-10-2003, 08:41:AM
yeah Barca. Real and Roma are both doing well. Im glad to see that clubs like Roma, Lazio, Parma, Ajax, Liverpool, Leverkusen are back to winning ways in there leagues..

IceBlu
10-10-2003, 08:50:AM
Inter and Arsenal.

People who haven't kept in touch with the Serie A tend to assume that Inter must have won heaps of titles.... but in reality they haven't done squat.

and Arsenal, lol what a joke.


i don't think Roma are overrated though.


and Real Madrid ?! lol. 9 CL titles - NUFF SAID.

Help?
10-10-2003, 08:51:AM
Originally posted by ahmedk
yeah Barca. Real and Roma are both doing well. Im glad to see that clubs like Roma, Lazio, Parma, Ajax, Liverpool, Leverkusen are back to winning ways in there leagues..
Liverpool? er.. They are midtable, with only 3 wins and more than 3 losses, i think.

bjmenge
10-10-2003, 08:57:AM
I'd agree with Barca, and I'd also say Man United, not necessarily because their football is overrated, but because they are overrated by marketers. In the States, they seem to be the only team that gets any exposure, outside of MLS sides, when there are countless other clubs that America should be exposed to.

Yasa_Fener
10-10-2003, 08:57:AM
Such a hard question.

bjmenge
10-10-2003, 09:00:AM
Originally posted by IceBlu
Arsenal, lol what a joke.
How exactly is Arsenal a joke? They may not have won mines worth of silverware, but they play some damn good football, and have quite a few world-class players. Seem to be a pretty good club, if you ask me.

IceBlu
10-10-2003, 09:01:AM
Originally posted by bjmenge
How exactly is Arsenal a joke? They may not have won mines worth of silverware, but they play some damn good football, and have quite a few world-class players. Seem to be a pretty good club, if you ask me.


hence overrated ;)

Bobby
10-10-2003, 09:04:AM
Arsenal are also the 'poorest' (money wise) of the 'big' clubs. Not very overreated when you think they have like a fifth (if lucky) of a team like Man Utd's money. And really only Arsenal fans highly rate Arsenal.

I'd say Inter.

bjmenge
10-10-2003, 09:09:AM
Originally posted by Ljungberg08
I'd say Inter.
Me too. :p

-William-
10-10-2003, 09:13:AM
Arsenal are over-rated :kader:

and Wolverhampton too

Voltaic Borusse
10-10-2003, 09:14:AM
How is Wolverhampton over-rated? :S

Bobby
10-10-2003, 09:15:AM
heh, this is wolves first spell in the top in years and years.

shokz
10-10-2003, 09:17:AM
Nearly 2 decades.

valioso
10-10-2003, 09:20:AM
i would say real madrid.. I get tired of hearing about "galacticos" and bs like that... they are a good team thats it.. and they lose games like everyone else..

Voltaic Borusse
10-10-2003, 09:31:AM
LOL, yeah. It seems like Real Madrid are always on the front page of as.com or marca.com . . . even if they lose, they are on the front pages everytime. I think it's sad how the media always focus their attention on them. It's sickening.

Andrew
10-10-2003, 09:33:AM
personally i think Barcelona, they have a great squad yet they are rubbish. Alot of Potential down the Toilet:kader:

Rob
10-10-2003, 09:47:AM
River Plate, living off there past.

PScott
10-10-2003, 09:51:AM
Originally posted by Rob
River Plate, living off there past. Thats a good one. Its not like they didnt win the last summer tournament of Argentina or anything.

Alistair
10-10-2003, 09:58:AM
Arsenal I think are way too overrated... They are all hyped up to be all that, especially in europe and don't seem to be getting very far..

m3th0d
10-10-2003, 09:58:AM
like the majority here, i'd also say inter and arse..

jani
10-10-2003, 01:50:PM
Inter are bad, yeap.. Bad they always do bad againts the big teams in Serie A but finish 2nd in the league because they always win againts the small teams.. This year I dont think Inter would even get a spot in the CL considering how good Roma and Lazio are doing... Even Adriano's Parma has been actually doing better since the departure of Mutu.. But I still miss seeing them playing together.. They were EXCELLENT!

Jedi Mind Trick
10-10-2003, 02:01:PM
inter milan and liverpool.

i was gonna say arsenal, but at least they've won trophies. though in europe, they've left a lot to be desired over the past few years. but considering the lack of financial pull they have compared to other heavyweights, i can't say they're the most overrated.

Bobby
10-10-2003, 02:04:PM
thank you, people automaticly think we have the money that the teams we compare ourselves with do, so they judge arsenal on that.

atleast someone else doesn't.

northstar
10-10-2003, 02:05:PM
You can argue Real Madrid's 9 CL titles is overated because many countires were under communist rule and therefore their clubs did not participate when they won the 5 back to back. Not overated for performance after that though, and no disrespect to Di Stefano. The CL was a small tournament back in those days.

Man Utd and Arsenal are overated in Europe

Inter in Serie A, and even Europe somewhat.

Barca is too but Barca is popular because of Catalan culture to a large degree IMO.

Jedi Mind Trick
10-10-2003, 02:10:PM
Originally posted by northstar
You can argue Real Madrid's 9 CL titles is overated because many countires were under communist rule and therefore their clubs did not participate when they won the 5 back to back. Not overated for performance after that though, and no disrespect to Di Stefano. The CL was a small tournament back in those days.

Man Utd and Arsenal are overated in Europe

Inter in Serie A, and even Europe somewhat.

Barca is too but Barca is popular because of Catalan culture to a large degree IMO.

you can argue that real madrid's 9 titles are blown out of proportion...but then you can say the same thing about every other club that has won one. but at the end of the day, there's no denying that real may be the most successful club of all time, and you still can't take away the trophies they've won in the recent past.

Silver_Boots
10-10-2003, 02:15:PM
We should count all of everyone's opinions to see what soccergaming's most overated club is. Would be interesting.
Anyway, I think Barcelona.

Fernandez
10-10-2003, 02:19:PM
it may be too early..... but chelsea are going to be overrated if they dun win anything zis season..... we might say that all most overrated clubs play in champs league continuously.... barca are truly overrated... especially if ronaldinho, the multi-million signing fails to help barca earn CL spot....

Jedi Mind Trick
10-10-2003, 02:22:PM
i don't expect chelsea to win anything this season anyways. i think they'll be more of a threat next season.

and there's a difference between overhyped and overrated.

Fernandez
10-10-2003, 02:28:PM
isnt chelsea the club whose players (but gk) are internationals?
johnson - england u-?
bridge, terry, j.cole, lampard - england int
gallas, desailly, makelele - french int
babayaro - nigerian int
melchiot, hasselbaink - dutch int
mutu - romanian int
veron, crespo - argentine int
gudjohnsen - icelandic int
geremi - cameroonian int
duff - irish int
macho - estonian int
sullivan - scottish int ....

and the list goes on....
arsenal and man utd have won trophies with their first teams all international.... why not chelsea?

Jedi Mind Trick
10-10-2003, 02:34:PM
Originally posted by fifafanv1
isnt chelsea the club whose players (but gk) are internationals?
johnson - england u-?
bridge, terry, j.cole, lampard - england int
gallas, desailly, makelele - french int
babayaro - nigerian int
melchiot, hasselbaink - dutch int
mutu - romanian int
veron, crespo - argentine int
gudjohnsen - icelandic int
geremi - cameroonian int
duff - irish int
macho - estonian int
sullivan - scottish int ....

and the list goes on....
arsenal and man utd have won trophies with their first teams all international.... why not chelsea?

yea so?

i just don't think they'll win the league or cl this year.

Fernandez
10-10-2003, 02:39:PM
so,we can call them overrated next season..... if they dun win anything...

Jedi Mind Trick
10-10-2003, 02:41:PM
what the hell are you talking about? i never said chelsea was overrated.

yim87
10-10-2003, 02:48:PM
nobody is expecting them to win trophies this year, hence they are not overrated..

Jedi Mind Trick
10-10-2003, 02:49:PM
Originally posted by yim87
nobody is expecting them to win trophies this year, hence they are not overrated..

exactly.

Bobby
10-10-2003, 02:50:PM
Nobody's really expecting Arsenal to win europe either....

Yet people call them overated

yim87
10-10-2003, 02:54:PM
arsenal is underachieving.. just like inter and barca.. good squad, good experience, good understanding, but can't convert them to titles somehow..

most players in chelsea however just got to know each other a months ago, they don''t understand each other, there is even a language barrier..:rolleyes:

Ubik Valis
10-10-2003, 04:35:PM
Originally posted by IceBlu



and Real Madrid ?! lol. 9 CL titles - NUFF SAID.

Haha! And this is coming from someone who dislikes Madrid aswell.........all you haters might aswell shut up now! (H) :mrpimp: :hump:

JJ
10-10-2003, 05:17:PM
Man Yoo of course... overrated pile of rubbish (H)

antithesis
10-10-2003, 05:46:PM
there's some unecessary hating going on here.

It is impossible to overrrate any club that wins or are runner-up in their domestic league on a consistent basis (ManU, Arsenal, Madrid, Juve, Inter). This board is too obssessed with the CL as a guide of a teams strength.

The most overrated club in my opinion is Newcastle.

Crusad3r
10-10-2003, 06:14:PM
Barça Overrated ?

Champions League 2000 : Barça reached semifinals losing to Valencia
Champions League 2002 : Barça reached semifinals losing to R.Madrid
Champions League 2003 : Barça reached Quarter Finals losing to Juventus in extra time.

In the last 4 years Barcelona was the best team of Europe playing Champions League, only ManU , Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Valencia did it better in overall.

Its funny they do it better so far in Champions League that in his domestic league, specially when in 2000 and 2001 they was defeated by a spanish team.

And i am a Real Madrid fan, could be easy to insult them in this moment :p

Dream Team
10-10-2003, 07:57:PM
Thanks Crusad3r :)

I think Barça is not overrated but some players of Barça are overrated (Kluivert, Overmars, Xavi,...)


IMO Inter

jani
10-10-2003, 08:02:PM
They have great players, but somehow they just dont do well enuf.. Thats why they are over-rated.. And they did go far, but they didnt win anything.. Thats the main point..

footballhell77
11-10-2003, 12:04:AM
you guys say chelsea wont win anything this season is a joke, i dont know if they could win the league or the champions league but im sure they could pull off the F.A. cup or worthington cup

footballhell77
11-10-2003, 12:06:AM
what about most over rated NATIONAL TEAM!! spain, england,holland:crazyboy:

footballhell77
11-10-2003, 12:10:AM
yes many people did expect arsenal to win trophy in europe this year becuz they were even favourites well maybe they arent favorites now after just 2 games but oh well, they have good players to match up with any team and the financial thing shouldnt really be a issue unless your tellin me Arsenal should get new players cuz most the players in the starting 11 sucks LOL jk

Lean
11-10-2003, 12:24:AM
Arsenal are not overrated, no way, come on... They dont have even half the money other clubs do, and still challenges for titles, on 2001-2002 they've won the double (if im not mistaken, of course, here in Brazil no TV channel covers the EPL, so i'm based in my memory, which sucks by the way..),last year they blew the EPL in the last games, and won the FA Cup, IMHO their only problem is Europe, and god knows why. Maybe their style of football, maybe its their manager, who knows... Now in the other hand, look at Barça's side, they should be topping the table or at least be near the top of it, and they are dissapointing their fans game after game, and they havent won nothing, good campaigns dont mean a thing at the end of the day if you ask me, that's why i think they're overrated. Also, Inter are completely overrated if you consider how much they've spent and how much they won.

antithesis
11-10-2003, 12:24:AM
Originally posted by footballhell77
yes many people did expect arsenal to win trophy in europe this year becuz they were even favourites well maybe they arent favorites now after just 2 games but oh well, they have good players to match up with any team and the financial thing shouldnt really be a issue unless your tellin me Arsenal should get new players cuz most the players in the starting 11 sucks LOL jk



you are being ridiculous.
I am yet to read anyone's opinion saying Arsenal are favourites to win the CL.

When you omit those who think Madrid, Milan, Juve, Bayern and ManU will win it, whom is left?
Arsene Wengers wife!!

Arsenal have never been overrated, so enough of this........

jani
11-10-2003, 12:38:AM
most overrated NT is of course, England.. I mean.. Their hype is crazy!!

Lean
11-10-2003, 12:49:AM
England, Spain, Portugal, Argentina (YES!!, they've won 2 world cups, one in their country, are always first seeded for some unknown reason although they didnt won bollocks since 1986.)

RUSI
11-10-2003, 12:53:AM
ARSENAL IS NOT OVERRATED!!!

England NT is though

valioso
11-10-2003, 12:56:AM
the reason I said Madrid is overrated... is not because of their performace on the pitch... yes they have the best players in the world, and they win... (if they didnt it would be a disaster)... but from being a good team.. to being called "galacticos" and "our of this world" and crap like that... thats just taking it too far...

santino
11-10-2003, 01:16:AM
"to being called "galacticos" and "out of this world" and crap like that... thats just taking it too far..."

Thank You.....that's what i was getting at...i was a little harsh i admit..but i don't like real thats why.........but ppl (especially ESPN commentators) make real sound like superheros.......they do lose..just like every other team..


anyways.. England NT and Inter are overrated

Look at Inter....all that money and nothing.......and cuper was supposed to be this great manager and hes done nothing

If cuper doesnt win anything this season he said hes gonna quit..but i think hell be fired be4 that.

Jedi Mind Trick
11-10-2003, 01:23:AM
Originally posted by footballhell77
yes many people did expect arsenal to win trophy in europe this year becuz they were even favourites well maybe they arent favorites now after just 2 games but oh well, they have good players to match up with any team and the financial thing shouldnt really be a issue unless your tellin me Arsenal should get new players cuz most the players in the starting 11 sucks LOL jk

i don't think anyone, including arsenal fans, expect arsenal to win the champions league.

i think real madrid is more overhyped than overrated.

valioso
11-10-2003, 01:26:AM
spain NT is overrated

Bobby
11-10-2003, 01:36:AM
Originally posted by footballhell77
yes many people did expect arsenal to win trophy in europe this year becuz they were even favourites well maybe they arent favorites now after just 2 games but oh well, they have good players to match up with any team and the financial thing shouldnt really be a issue unless your tellin me Arsenal should get new players cuz most the players in the starting 11 sucks LOL jk

No.

Just No.

Not even i expected them to win it.

footballhell77
11-10-2003, 02:19:AM
ok ok spain arent over rated they are under achievers:D

Jedi Mind Trick
11-10-2003, 02:23:AM
what'd you do to get a yellow...

PSVFOREVER
11-10-2003, 02:23:AM
yeah, Real Madrid is overrated, and Arsenal is overrated (atleast Wenger overrates them). And Holland

footballhell77
11-10-2003, 02:28:AM
dude idont know why i got a yellow card for, i dont really care. I also got a red card awhile back lol im tryin to beat viera's record for cards in a year:D :D . By the way how many cards can you get befor you get banned:confused: lol im gonna changed my sn to redcards R us- whenever i get another red card:mrpimp:

footballhell77
11-10-2003, 02:29:AM
What about Most underrated teams? lol like um stuttgart:D, i think AEK is under rated well they have an ok atleast last year they did

JeffBoy15
11-10-2003, 04:18:AM
Originally posted by Ljungberg08
Nobody's really expecting Arsenal to win europe either....

Yet people call them overated

While this is true, no one stated this to be their reason for voting Arsenal as overated

Bobby
11-10-2003, 04:19:AM
Originally posted by Jedi Mind Trick
what'd you do to get a yellow...

Kept starting stupid ass threads, thats what he did.

Jedi Mind Trick
11-10-2003, 04:20:AM
Originally posted by Ljungberg08
Kept starting stupid ass threads, thats what he did.

hahahaha...yes.

Bobby
11-10-2003, 04:34:AM
Ross County

shokz
11-10-2003, 04:35:AM
Arsenal are not over-rated(Coming from a Manchester United supporter, we know first hand Arsenal are capable at beating us on our own soil.

2001/02 EPL at Old Trafford, lost the title on our own ground that night.

2002/03 FA Cup knocked us out on our own soil.

They love coming to Old Trafford ;).

SB9Dragon
11-10-2003, 04:39:AM
LOL, you guys are really funny, Inter is overrated:rolleyes: IMO out of big teams in Europe Inter get the most trash, the most BS, and the most harrassed, by media and opposition fans...

ok I know the club hasn't won a big title for some years and the Scudetto even longer but must Inter really be so terribly bashed?? IMO Inter is one of the top underrated teams, who thought we could get so far in the CL? No one... who thought we could get so close to winning?? No one...

IMO one day, Inter will shutup all its critics (I doubt with Cuper) and lay the smackdown...but until then it will just continue to be the same usual trash:rolleyes:

Jedi Mind Trick
11-10-2003, 04:43:AM
Originally posted by SB9Dragon
ok I know the club hasn't won a big title for some years and the Scudetto even longer


there's part of your answer.

Hendrik
11-10-2003, 04:43:AM
A club that spends 462 million Euros in eight years and still don't win anything is just a joke.

IceBlu
11-10-2003, 05:08:AM
Originally posted by SB9Dragon
IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO



:rolleyes:

Punkt
11-10-2003, 05:12:AM
Inter is the most overrated.
i think Liverpool and Dortmund are overrated too.

Rob
11-10-2003, 05:13:AM
Originally posted by vince15
A club that spends 462 million Euros in eight years and still don't win anything is just a joke. Couldn't put it any better Vince.

Jedi Mind Trick
11-10-2003, 05:16:AM
Originally posted by IceBlu
:rolleyes:

IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO

Crusad3r
11-10-2003, 05:52:AM
spain NT is overrated. but in under-21 under-17, olympic games, etc ... Spain is top 3 of the world so far :P

Elder
11-10-2003, 05:56:AM
Overrated.........

Arsenal and AC Milan

Real Madrid and Chicago Fire :)

feliycora
11-10-2003, 06:00:AM
REAL MADRID

everyone says fantastic things about real: its the best team in the world in the world, etc...

i dont think so... its relative... they have the best attack... not the best team...

ko_Totti
11-10-2003, 06:09:AM
Real Madrid weren't overrated last season but now I think they are because many people say that Real's team right now is better than the one last season which is false in many ways. Everyone also thinks that Real Madrid are going to win the CL for the 10th time with no problems, while the truth is they have the same chance at winning it as the rest of the teams.

They are not special, they are just an ordinary club from Spain like Barcelona, Deportivo, Valencia.

northstar
11-10-2003, 06:09:AM
Arsenal are good in their dometic league but not good in Europe. And didnt Wenger say last season they will win CL and EPL double? You dont say that sort of stuff unless you really think you have a good chance or it just brings morale down big time when the failure happens.

Jedi Mind Trick
11-10-2003, 06:20:AM
i'm sure if wenger said that, it was just to bring more confidence into the team. the players and staff know that they're not a favorite to win the champions league. i'm sure they have the confidence that they will play well and be successful and advance further than previous seasons, but i don't think the players themselves expect to win.

Lean
12-10-2003, 01:51:AM
They're overrated by Wenger, just Wenger, not everybody else.

ogsimon
13-10-2003, 05:10:AM
I think wenger overrated arsenal way too much last season in europe, but in another sense i think teams rate arsenal highly everywhere, thus not playing their normal game at any time during the matches.

I mean the only teams that have come to highbury not to shut us out and play their game is depor and inter and juve, who arsenal promptly took apart. along with leverkusen.

I think this season though there is not much expectation of arsenal outside of highbury in europe.

IMO though we still dont have players performing to their best ie viera, pires and henry, when those perform then we will go far.

I think we miss one more ingredient and that is a centre forward. all the top teams have one but we dont.

Oh yeah and i think Valencia are way overrated, Inter, and Juventus ( excpt nedved), and English NT, and Italy national team

Rob
13-10-2003, 07:23:AM
Juventus are overated? There the defending Champions.
Runner ups in the Champs League

- Nuff Said.

Celt
13-10-2003, 07:55:AM
Man. U.
Undoubtedly.

L'pool
13-10-2003, 09:10:AM
England Nt are overated, they haven't won the world cup since '66. They should get a very good run in Euro 2004 to prove something.

LilPlayaJosh
13-10-2003, 09:12:AM
Originally posted by Elder
Overrated.........

Arsenal and AC Milan

Real Madrid and Chicago Fire :)

AC Milan overrated.... didnt they win the CL.
and I dont think Arsenal is overrated

jani
13-10-2003, 09:17:AM
Milan over-rated? hmm..

artur303
13-10-2003, 09:34:AM
I think Arsenal and Real Madrid are overrated.

Help?
13-10-2003, 09:50:AM
let's stay on topic people and say which teams are overrated in your opinion and not which teams you dislike.