Hi. Here is my Hindebrand face. It is very early version. But i dont know what improve. Help me ;)

the textur is not the best i think and fix the eyes

work on the eyes and the hair. maybe you should search for other pics of him.
but it's a good start...
cheers

btw: great that you gave him a try. imo he's one of the best three german keepers (which automatically means he's one of the best five keepers in the world!)

wow, mate! this is awesome! congrats :rockman:

Hi. I made completly new texture and some updates in shape. What do u think ??

its ok

Its near to final version. Here it is

Last version is ok but fix eyes and mouth.

Hey J@QBEK

Honestly, i preferd the first try thousands and thousand of times.

May be all people think now..."This man is mad!!!"

I explain why: First of all, in the first try you had achieve modeled his expression, his own see. Seems that everybody is loking for a realistic texture, where to find until the face capilars....ehemmm....no dudes, because the important thing of the texture is not only the realism, indeed the texture must to talk, must to said at the first look, "hey...i reconizned this face"

Yes is cool to see a lot of details, but....are really necesary? i mean, this details are belongs really to this face?. I think that is an important thing to keep in mind. A clear example, the eyes. In the first pic i can really see his eyes (besides to add more or less detail in the texture), but in the last....is really necesary to exagerate the lower part of the eyes? NO...is more realistic, but, realistic refering to this face? NO...

I see a great aproching in the first pic, ovearll when you have the eyes of a person, you have all. Only a few retouchements that you has done, as the hair. But the rest, nose, eyes, mouth, including the head size are more correct in the first pic, almost in the shape....lets see the texture of them.

Sometimes, and this is 3D knowed thing, modellers we use our own skin, taken by scanner if we dont find a BIG pic,i mean, that if you have a correct shape, but the texture is not enought realistic, ok, then add real skin, blending with the texture, on the non important parts, where the texture dont affect to the expression of the face, but dont change the "HE" of his expression. This way hou have HIS personality and a cool texture.

This things happends with a lot of faces here...and we have the bad costum of to think that texture=pic of face player.

Do you think really, for example, in the Thierry Henry 2004 pic that the porus of his skin are taken of a Henry photo?...no...the technique that EA use is a normal 3D texture method, as i explained before, the important parts that give personality to a face are textured based on photo, may be using part of it, but not this entire photo, some parts are postprocessing later with other real skin texture, modificating them until achieve a good result, blendig, opacity, etc,,,

I could put a few pics about all of this, but may be is too long and big to put here, but i hope that you understand the what i mean and that it will be useful.

Anyway, good face, the first one sure.

Take care

neovico
Mind In Action

i agree with neovico 100%

yeah Neovico, thats right

Yes neovico i agree with you. but the texture is in my my opinion very important. Look at ChrisA legrottaglie face. The texture is taken from the picture. And face looks gr8. on the texture we can show many details. i dont know maybe 1st face is better, i like 1st and 3rd versions. but i agree with you and i think you right. i will make few versions then i will take the best. (but i've got problem i lost 1st face ..sic..)thx neovico. and i made texture from this pic :

http://www.dfb.de/dfb-team/team2006/team/n_hilde.jpg

first version was great. ;)

ye , neo , thats the professional way to make a face texture , you can search some maya face textures , they have similiar texture look , and the most part of it is from photoshop's building .
EA did that so .

Originally posted by J@QBEK
Yes neovico i agree with you. but the texture is in my my opinion very important. Look at ChrisA legrottaglie face. The texture is taken from the picture. And face looks gr8. on the texture we can show many details. i dont know maybe 1st face is better, i like 1st and 3rd versions. but i agree with you and i think you right. i will make few versions then i will take the best. (but i've got problem i lost 1st face ..sic..)thx neovico. and i made texture from this pic :

http://www.dfb.de/dfb-team/team2006/team/n_hilde.jpg well, chris was lucky that that legrottaglie pic has a good resemblance to what he's like when he's playing..

bah~ even if the base doesn't look like the player when he is playing, chris will still pull it off..

Ok ok im back to first version

If u like 1st version fere is update for 1st. It can be 1,5 v. ;) Sonn on FIFA POLAND if its good.

why upload your faces???Because they not finish Fix it so long which the face is finish!!!
The looks terrinle you can use another hair froom scholes or mendieta