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footballhell77
22-10-2003, 05:46:AM
Hello well im just wondering what you guys think about american sporting final events vs any top soccer final. Well for example this years world series no one really cares about it cuz they wanted to see the 2 underdogs play and also in the last nba finals no one cared becuz of the 2 teams that were in it. But in soccer's last world cup im sure no one didnt wanna see 2 underdog teams in the world cup final becuz it would be a very disappointed world cup to most people. So why is this, becuz in soccer now matter whos in the final of a big tournament most of the people would care to watch but its different in american sports. Can anyone explain?

Punkt
22-10-2003, 06:01:AM
what i don't understand is why americans tell that NBA or NFL champions are "World Champions"...

#1 Stunna
22-10-2003, 06:04:AM
Originally posted by Punkt
what i don't understand is why americans tell that NBA or NFL champions are "World Champions"...

months ago i thought about starting a thread about that, but i forgot about it. But to be honest, in American football they would be world champions. I want to know if they called the LA Galaxy "World Champions" when they won the MLS championship. :p

Voltaic Borusse
22-10-2003, 06:09:AM
Originally posted by Punkt
what i don't understand is why americans tell that NBA or NFL champions are "World Champions"...

It's funny that you bring that up, cause I was thinking the same exact thing when I heard someone talking about the Baseball World Series.

shokz
22-10-2003, 06:22:AM
Apparently it involves Canadian teams, no reason to call it a "World Series" though, thats just plain lame, bloody baseball. :f***:

xxxFLYERxxx
22-10-2003, 06:35:AM
When the Yankees win the world series, they will be the best baseball team in the world. You think some baseball team from Europe will beat the Yankees? No. Same with other sports. The NBA, NFL, NHL: it doesnt get any better.

Antonius_III
22-10-2003, 06:35:AM
Are you guys for real?????????What kinda retarded statement is no1 cared to watch tha superbowl n the world series????????????:kader: Ask yourself that question n think how retarded that sounds?:rolleyes: ????There is no other championship series/ game on International television where evry team is from the same country!!!!!!!!!!! The question u should ask is who dosnt care about the super bowl/ world series/ nba finals!!!!!!!!!!!!! And anotha thing what was tha whole world chamion question????? there are only 2 major football leagues in the world and the othas in europe but lets face it u guys The Suk!!!!!!!!!I wish one of you guys would go to The bronx (NYC) and a stupid question like that!!!If u guys look up Pan-American/Olympic Games History yall will see no other country in the world has as many medals in any sport as America (cept soccer n rugby cuz no1 here play that) so i think its safe to say we are the world champions in basketball, football, and baseball!!!!!!!!:rockman: :mrpimp:

footballhell77
22-10-2003, 06:51:AM
NHL dont call there teams world champions tho cuz that would be stupid

footballhell77
22-10-2003, 06:56:AM
nope you are not real world champions tho not because no one else plays that dont mean you can call yourself world champs thats just plain stupid. Anyways thats the typical american way. And 1 of the big reasons they hate soccer is becuz they will never beat the world at their own game and be the realest of world champs:crazyboy:. ANd i didnt say no one cared about watching superbowl cuz superbowl is all hyped up and people watch becuz of commercials and becuz they think its cool but dont get me wrong there are alot of american football fans who watch it becuz they love the game. But what i was sayin is that most people dont really care about some championship games becuz they dont like the teams who are involved. Cuz most people said a boston red sox vs cubs world series would be more interesting so im just asking i didnt stated that no one care im just goin off what i heard on espn

footballhell77
22-10-2003, 06:59:AM
Also there is a good point in saying that becuz they could beat other teams in the sport and no other team play then they can call themselves world champions. But im sure when modern day football started in england and a team won their division or whatever they had back then i dont think they said they were world soccer champions. But like i said its typical american ignorance:crazyboy: :crazyboy:

footballhell77
22-10-2003, 07:01:AM
and another thing i dont see college teams who play american football calling themselves world champions they say national champions eventho they are the only ones who play too so its really the same in some ways. Yea im postboosting too so what IM THE WORLD CHAMPION of postboosting so dont tell me nothing lol:mrpimp: :crazyboy: :rockman:

Punkt
22-10-2003, 07:02:AM
Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
When the Yankees win the world series, they will be the best baseball team in the world. You think some baseball team from Europe will beat the Yankees? No. Same with other sports. The NBA, NFL, NHL: it doesnt get any better.

you're wrong. these leagues are played just with american and some canadian teams... so they aren't world champions... they are just NORTH-AMERICAN champions because they doesn't play with teams of other countries.
why NBA have the right to call "World Champion". the real world champions are from FIBA competitions. the international basket federation. NBA is just an american league.
this situation is a typical american thought: they are the world and the others don't matter...

footballhell77
22-10-2003, 07:06:AM
YES EXACTLY any 1 league who plays a certain sport no matter if its the ass kisking competition cant call themselves world champions even if they can beat the rest of the world. Im sure a nfl could beat another american football team who plays in a dif country thats if they are any. Cuz NFL europe is all played by mostly americans lol. But eventho they could beat eveyone else THEY DIDNT PLAY OR BEAT THEM DID THEY !!!!!! so they dont have the right to call themselves world champs

footballhell77
22-10-2003, 07:08:AM
Not even the teams that wins the eufa champions league call themselves world champions eventho they could beat any team from another continent!!! GET MY FU'CKING POINT!

xxxFLYERxxx
22-10-2003, 10:04:AM
Originally posted by Punkt
you're wrong. these leagues are played just with american and some canadian teams... so they aren't world champions... they are just NORTH-AMERICAN champions because they doesn't play with teams of other countries.
why NBA have the right to call "World Champion". the real world champions are from FIBA competitions. the international basket federation. NBA is just an american league.
this situation is a typical american thought: they are the world and the others don't matter...

Go ahead and find a team outside of the U.S that can beat the San Antonio Spurs. You wont be able to. San Antonio Spurs are the best team in the NBA, therefore the best team in the world, therefore World Champions.

Edit: The best prospects from all over the world come to the US to play their sport. NBA,NHL,MLB,NFL are the premier leagues for their sport.

Punkt
22-10-2003, 10:30:AM
Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Go ahead and find a team outside of the U.S that can beat the San Antonio Spurs. You wont be able to. San Antonio Spurs are the best team in the NBA, therefore the best team in the world, therefore World Champions.


you don't get it? i know that it's very difficult a rest of world team beat the spurs (not impossible) but it's only an opinion... if they want to be world champions they have to play with teams of other parts of the world... do you get it now?
In football the Champions League winner didn't call himself world champions...
like i told you NBA is just an american organization. don't have the right to act like if they was the only basket played in the planet...just that.

Jedi Mind Trick
22-10-2003, 10:39:AM
Originally posted by footballhell77
Hello well im just wondering what you guys think about american sporting final events vs any top soccer final. Well for example this years world series no one really cares about it cuz they wanted to see the 2 underdogs play and also in the last nba finals no one cared becuz of the 2 teams that were in it. But in soccer's last world cup im sure no one didnt wanna see 2 underdog teams in the world cup final becuz it would be a very disappointed world cup to most people. So why is this, becuz in soccer now matter whos in the final of a big tournament most of the people would care to watch but its different in american sports. Can anyone explain?

dude, first of all, try using the edit button.

as for this year's world series, nobody's interested in it because once again, it's the yankees. unless you're a yankees fan, everyone else is sick and tired of watching the yankees win year after year. most people wanted to see boston vs. chicago b/c those clubs not only have huge followings, but haven't been in the world series in so long. something like 95 years for the cubs. and just as long for the red sox, since they've won one.

for basketball, nobody cares about the finals because the west is so much better than the east. whether it's the lakers or spurs or kings or whoever, they're just better than the eastern teams. so the real "finals" are in the western conference finals.

and for the world cup, it's different because you're dealing with whole nations and countries. not just local professional teams. and soccer is the world's most popular sport. whoever was in the final, millions of people will probably watch regardless.

now..as far as your other 27 posts, i think it's retarded too how they call it the "world champions" and stuff. but, in reality the best basketball league and baseball leagues and american football leagues are in america. players from all over the world come to play here, not like soccer, where player flock to different top level leagues in several countries. so in a sense, they are the "world champions." as for college, top college sports are governed by the ncaa (national collegiate athletic association), and thus, they are national champions...since they're champions of colleges and universities in the nation/country.

and what the hell are you talking about americans hate soccer because they'll "never beat the world at their own game and be the realest of world champs"...first of all realest isn't a word. and THEIR OWN game? was soccer started or invented in america? i've already had this discussion with you. soccer is the number 1 or 2 most participated youth sport in the country. it's not as popular here as in europe or the rest of the world, because of the much more mainstream exposure to other sports.

and you know what? you always make threads like these just to show your spitefulness about "the american way" or how much you hate things here in america. what, did you run out of complaints about the mls? know your facts. fall back nucca. one.

footballhell77
22-10-2003, 11:35:PM
when i said america cant beat the world at its own game i meant soccer as the worlds own game not soccer as america's game. And yes you do have a point in things you said and some are right but they still are silly for calling themselves world champions eventho the best players come to play here so what. The best players go to play in europe and they have the champions league with the best top teams and the winner isnt known as the world champions so its the same thing.:mrpimp:

shokz
22-10-2003, 11:36:PM
Originally posted by Jedi Mind Trick
dude, first of all, try using the edit button.


hahaha!.

footballhell77
22-10-2003, 11:38:PM
and you know what? you always make threads like these just to show your spitefulness about "the american way" or how much you hate things here in america. what, did you run out of complaints about the mls? know your facts. fall back nucca. one. [/B][/QUOTE]

Ok what did i complained and said about the MLS? everyone says it sucks and they all bash it and well its an ok league but its boring to watch thats all i said about that mls league. And what did you mean about me showing my spitefulness about the american way? lol Dude i just dont like american sports and all i wanted to know was why people wasnt interested in the world series so much. Then somoene else started the whole world championship thing it wasnt me. I just said what i felt and like i said it a stupid reason to call yourself world champs when the world isnt really involved or care for that matter

Antonius_III
23-10-2003, 03:01:AM
im tired of yall people from europe hatin on americans!!!!!!! this is ridiculous 97% of you havent even been to america!!!!!!when you go to basketball and american football forums 1/3 of the threads dont say europe and england are ignorant!!!!!! I want all yall losers to come live here in america and then lets here what yall have to say about how ignorant we are!!!!!! Anotha How Can America Beat evry1 at the "worlds game" if we jus got in to the world cup like 30 yrs. ago!!!!!! So i think yall need go kick roks cuz yall jus soundin stupid!! :f***:

rpvankasteren
23-10-2003, 04:07:AM
I lived in Chicago for a year, and yes, people around there are ignorant of what happens outside of the US. You don't know how hard it was for me to find any info on what happened outside of the US. Thank god for BBC America.

jackie4
23-10-2003, 10:55:PM
I agree with the points made about the NBA and NFL champions being declared world champions but I DO know why the championship of North American baseball is called the World Series.

The reason is that when there was a baseball championship at first it was sponsored by a US newspaper called The New York World and therefore it was named the World's Series. The name stuck but became more commonly known since then as the World Series.

jackie4
23-10-2003, 11:00:PM
Originally posted by Antonius_III
im tired of yall people from europe hatin on americans!!!!!!! this is ridiculous 97% of you havent even been to america!!!!!!when you go to basketball and american football forums 1/3 of the threads dont say europe and england are ignorant!!!!!! I want all yall losers to come live here in america and then lets here what yall have to say about how ignorant we are!!!!!! Anotha How Can America Beat evry1 at the "worlds game" if we jus got in to the world cup like 30 yrs. ago!!!!!! So i think yall need go kick roks cuz yall jus soundin stupid!! :f***:

But are Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland ignorant or do all americans think the UK and England are the same thing?:f***:

jackie4
23-10-2003, 11:02:PM
Oh btw the Americans didn't first get to the World Cup 30 years ago.

The USA reached the semi finals in 1930

footballhell77
23-10-2003, 11:31:PM
yea he dont know what hes talking about man

Jedi Mind Trick
24-10-2003, 01:26:AM
yet, i believe that 1990 was the first time the usa made it to the world cup through the CONCACAF qualifiers in 40 years.