I've just read a few post now saying the same thing about real slow game speeds even from a guy with 2.5Ghz , 512 DDR Ram,Radeon 9500 pro machine. This cant be happening can it my PC meets the recommended specs but if a 2.5Ghz beast is having trouble us lower end guys are screwed. I just hope this isnt true that Konami have done a ISS 3 on us. If they have there is no excuse for this and I wont buy the full version.

Its not simply that to players and game moves in slow mo...that would be bad enough but the actuall functioning of the game is unbelievably slow. Button reaction times are useless, the game, to put is simply, is unplayable. I simply cannot play a football game when the players on the pitch do not respond to your commands.
Ive got to say...all that fuss about this game....its utter crap.
My Drivers are up to date (i just checked) i have a GeForce 4, 2 Ghz, 256 Ram and it plays terrible.

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
Its not simply that to players and game moves in slow mo...that would be bad enough but the actuall functioning of the game is unbelievably slow. Button reaction times are useless, the game, to put is simply, is unplayable. I simply cannot play a football game when the players on the pitch do not respond to your commands.
Ive got to say...all that fuss about this game....its utter crap.
My Drivers are up to date (i just checked) i have a GeForce 4, 2 Ghz, 256 Ram and it plays terrible.

Have you ever played We7 in PS2?

I dont own a ps2, why do you ask?

It seems like pes3 is reliant on a top end graphics card, and doesnt care so much about cpu or ram.
Any chance your GeForce 4 is actually an MX? :rolleyes:

Yes it is a Geforce 4 MX 440...

thats where your problem lies, your card isnt really much faster than a Geforce 2.

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
Yes it is a Geforce 4 MX 440...
Yeah, it's really dodgy on Nvidia's part labelling that card a Geforce 4. Souped up Geforce2 basically (:/) . Better than a GF3 on Nvidia's tech paper but not in practice.

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
Ive got to say...all that fuss about this game....its utter crap.

I understand you're upset right now so I'll pretend you didn't say that :p

Seems the bottleneck for PES3 is definitely going to be the gfx card

Its frankly ridiculous that i can run games like Homeworld 2, Call of Duty and such, games with superior graphics and yet this game, with cartoon like textures is apparently out of my reach?
FIFA 2004's graphics are far better than this game and yet it runs far better...somethings not adding up if its my card...im not convinced.

I'll give you an example of what i mean.
I just tried it again...dumbed the graphics down to 1024X728, beckham with the ball, making a run up the flank, press long pass and across to cross it in, long pass decides not to work and beckham turns the way im pressing...ok i think, we'll go this way then:rolleyes: , Owen is making a run thru the middle, pass! pass! i push frantically...beckham is not listening, continues to trot towards goal...ok, shoot! shoot! i command...nope, beckham doesnt feel like it, Beckham ends up running across the face of goal with the keeper standing there watching him from 4 feet away, beckham trots past the far post and NOW the long pass kicks in and he thumps the ball away from goal and out about 50 yards back up the pitch.
Now tell me this isnt crazy on at least 2 levels.
1. My player, over whome i am supposed to be god, does not respond to certain commands for lags of up to 30 seconds.
2. The goal keeper stood there and watched Beckham trot past him 4 feet from his line!!!

Im finding it hard as to how you are defending this game.....

you are so right man.. on ISS3 this was the same and now im afraid in pes3, too (still downloading:rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
...Im finding it hard as to how you are defending this game.....
Easy...nothing like this is happenig to me...have you tried at 640x480?

It is not like ISS3, because this uses a completely new engine (renderware) so it will be totally different.

this year Konami actually scrapped renderware and created their own game engine from scratch.

Well ok, but dont you think it is just a little bit crap when, if your graphics card isnt what they want, nearly but not quite the game is there for unplayable?
ive just tried again, set the graphics to 800x600, medium detail.
The game run a lot faster yet is is just as unplayble as before. The players are still completely unresponsive, if i press forwards once, simply tap it the player will continue to run fowards until he loses the ball or runs out of bounds, cant pass, cant shoot cant do anything...
For a game that is supposed to be compedative with FIFA it is simply idiotic to make it completely unworkable on a system that has more than the recommended in all areas bar not quite being there in the graphics cards.
Unless there is a solution im missing this game is a complete flop.

Originally posted by Han
It is not like ISS3, because this uses a completely new engine (renderware) so it will be totally different.


lets see ;) 1hour 4 min @20kb/s

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
... this game is a complete flop.
Sorry, to you maybe but to me a complete success.

Just tried it at 1280x1028 and ran smooth as...has got to be the GFX card as no other game will run smooth on my system at that resolution..diff thread so my specs again
Athlon 1.333
356 mb Sdram
Geforce 4 ti4400

ROFL!!!! Looks like you'll have to play fifa then... :rockman:


Guess the so-called: :drevil: greatest game ever isnt so great after all...

Im just really disapointed, not just for me but for the majority of people out there who will not be able to play it...it seems like bad business to make the game so selective.
I was looking forward to playing it after seeing some of the goal clips on these forums, and from what i played the potential looks fine...im not doubting its a good game but for me simply not to be able to play it on a machine like mine;
Athalon 2 Ghz
256 Ram
GeForce 4 MX 440

is really not right...i dont know of any game out at the moment that performs so badly on my machine ( i hire out plenty of games..) and there are ones out that should be far more taxing on the machine than this.

Originally posted by alochner
ROFL!!!! Looks like you'll have to play fifa then... :rockman:


Guess the so-called: :drevil: greatest game ever isnt so great after all...

explain to me what you mean mate...

Smudger, just some (silly (?) ) questions:
Did you run setting.exe and config your gamepad?
Do you have 5 gig HD space? (See readme.txt for the specs)
Maybe somewhere behind these questions your solution can be found...

the port must be badly done. according to PC Gamer UK, the port is done by some Hong Kong company, the same ppl that ported ISS3...

I'm using AMD XP 2000+ , Geforce 4 TI 4200 , 512 MB DDR RAM.

The game ran perfectly without any kind of slow down,stutter,frame skipping etc on 1024x768 , High Quality and Quincunx AA. I even tried it on the wide cam-type, still no slow down.

So it must be your pc if the game slowdown.

Originally posted by Han
Smudger, just some (silly (?) ) questions:
Did you run setting.exe and config your gamepad?
Do you have 5 gig HD space? (See readme.txt for the specs)
Maybe somewhere behind these questions your solution can be found...

Not using a game pad, using a keyboard.
at the moment i have 11.7 Gb free on my hard drive.

im betting its my graphics card. I didnt know that a GeForce 4 MX is a crap card...it certainly doesnt seem to be for anything else bar this.
but unlike what that cretin alochner seems to be implying i really like FIFA 2004 and i guess i will go back to playing that.
Its a bad sign for those people who dont even have GeForce 4's, im betting the ones u guys have are pretty expensive too. For a game with such a large target audience they sure have catered for a very small percentage of them...like i said, seems really bad business to me.

This is the first time for me playing PE3 or any of the Konami line....and I am not convinced....great let down

:f***:

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
im betting the ones u guys have are pretty expensive too. For a game with such a large target audience they sure have catered for a very small percentage of them...like i said, seems really bad business to me.
same as always with gfx cards...about AU$300 will get you an excellent card, double your money and you will get the best card, but not double the performance...honestly if you're planning on playing the next gen of PC games (directx9 spec - Half life 2 etc) you'll need to replace your card.

yeah...but while i can run FIFA 2004 well im not gong to invest in anything just yet...if i find other games that i cant pay then maybe i'll consider it (im not a big half-life fan anyway) but until then i'll live without pes3.

Half life2 just 1 example of Directx9 tech
Have you tried turning v-sync off, as suggested in the other thread?

Konami not making this easy to get more new customers. This is crazy. They can't market this product well. :kader:

I am still waiting for their demo :f***:

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
Im just really disapointed, not just for me but for the majority of people out there who will not be able to play it...it seems like bad business to make the game so selective.
I was looking forward to playing it after seeing some of the goal clips on these forums, and from what i played the potential looks fine...im not doubting its a good game but for me simply not to be able to play it on a machine like mine;
Athalon 2 Ghz
256 Ram
GeForce 4 MX 440

is really not right...i dont know of any game out at the moment that performs so badly on my machine ( i hire out plenty of games..) and there are ones out that should be far more taxing on the machine than this.

Leedz your Geforce is definitly the bottle kneck, I´m running on a XP 1800 on a ATI 8500Le and its running very smooth. This game is awesome, the menus could have used the mouse for better acess.

Geforce 4 MX is not a very good gfx, try to upgrade the 8500 is quite cheap these days. U$80 tops

The main problem still resides in the interface.
on 800x600 high detail it runs fine, smooth and fast enough.
Im beginning to wonder if the game pad im getting for xmas might not solve a lot of these issues. the keyboard is very unresponsive.
also it seems like my players, especially off the ball have a mind of thier own...what is the default AI settings for man marking and such, because this combined with my inability to controll my players means that attackers can just stroll through my defence while they appear to run AWAY from them left and right...
how much would a graphics card have to do with getting signals from the keyboard to the game?

I must say that I am disappointed with the severity of the slow-down.

My PC isn't exactly state of the art any more (Athlon 1.4, Geoforce 2 64mb, 256mb RAM), but it's able to run most games with little problem. In particular, racing sims like Nascar 2003, with 42 other cars on track, resolution 1024 x 768, most gfx turned on and it runs at a steady 30-50 fps....no problemo.

But the slow down with this PES3 demo is crazy. At 640 x 480 with minimum gfx detail, it runs smooth enough except around penalty boxes when it starts to become problematic. But I haven't had to play those sort of resolutions since about 1998 on my old P166.

At 800 x 600 with mid gfx, it's a disaster....about 1 fps. Dunno what sort of coding they've done but I'm sure they could have optimised it in such a way that a PC of my spec would be able to run the game at 1024 x 768 with no problems.

I've cancelled my pre-order...I'll stick with WE7 on PS2.

Given that it's nothing but a PS2 port and they haven't given it any sort of non-PS2 characteristics (they haven't even bothered to remove the bloody PS2 controller symbols :rolleyes: ), I can see little point in owning this if you already have the PS2 version.

I hope this isn't a sign of things to come in future PES games on PC.

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
also it seems like my players, especially off the ball have a mind of thier own...what is the default AI settings for man marking and such, because this combined with my inability to controll my players means that attackers can just stroll through my defence while they appear to run AWAY from them left and right...

welcome to the world of KCET AI

you'll soon get to learn that this game isn't as perfect as some would have you believe

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
Im beginning to wonder if the game pad im getting for xmas might not solve a lot of these issues. the keyboard is very unresponsive.

That's what I thought when I posted the question about the gamepad config..
I have a playstation gamepad, with an USB force feedback connection (USB cable connected to my playstation gamepad).
Even with my slowmotion geforce 2 mx 400 it responses very good :)

Well, look at GTA3 - they had problem with that conversion, getting it to run on your average PC. Hopefully KCET will learn from their mistakes this time round.

IMPORTANT TIP!!
Turn off V-Sync - i tried this, and saw a huge difference in the slow down. I have a powerful system anyway, but still experienced slow down with all anti-aliasing features turned up. Turning off V-Sync solved this straight away.

Originally posted by culo
welcome to the world of KCET AI

you'll soon get to learn that this game isn't as perfect as some would have you believe

Don´t leave player changing in auto, switch to manual.

It might not be perfect but its the best out there, at least you just cant dribble the whole defense using some lame as sping move. It takes skill to open the defence

the problem it is not in the video card, but in the audio .
in fact it goes slow, when one ago approaches in the opposing area and the public noise to us


sorry for my english

the problem it is not in the video card, but in the audio .
in fact it goes slow, when one ago approaches in the opposing area and the public noise to us





for eliminate the problem, open the directX dialog, go in sound window,and minimizze the acceleration

basicaly acceleration or not acceleration
and the game work nearly fine

i fixed it by just freeing up more memory. now it runs runs smooth as silk.:)

Hearing guys who got super pcs having problems, I am guessing its not the game then, probably needs some system tuning, thats all. I still have 1.5 hrs to go, then I will test it with my pc. 1.6 GHz, GeForce4 MX 420, 400MB SDRAM....

I'm amazed at how many people have been ripped off by nVidia by buying the GF4 MX. Any benchmark ever done on it showed how completely crap it was.

Originally posted by Gobby
I'm amazed at how many people have been ripped off by nVidia by buying the GF4 MX. Any benchmark ever done on it showed how completely crap it was.

Don´t even talk about it, people though they would be buying a GF4 with DX8, but it was just a DX7 card. Plus at the time it costed the same as a 8500, which is a pretty good and cheap DX8 card :)

How do I check the FPS in the game?

The slow down isn't caused by your systems....it's an option I think. I run the game in windowed mode and it runs fine though, probably because the increase in FPS countearcts the slow down. The game should run fine in the final build...

runs amazingly smooth here
with only 1.1ghz, 512mb and radeon9700

maybe you guys should try the solution of Dej
lower the audio harware accelaration

type dxdiag in execute bar and go to sound and click the slider.

Yep, audio acceleration helped as well.

how do you do it??

On the minimun requeriments it says:

- Nvidia GeForce 3 or Ati 8500

So if you have a gf2 or a gf4 mx440 its pretty obvious it will run bad....

Exactly!! I don't get all this moaning from people who don't have the minimum spec! That is there for a reason you know. And even then, has any game ever worked well on the 'minimum' spec?!

Originally posted by calkcy
how do you do it??

Under XP Goto Start->Run->Type dxdiag
Click sound tab and reduce the sound acceleration slider
Exit
Easy :)

Originally posted by bananadude1
Exactly!! I don't get all this moaning from people who don't have the minimum spec! That is there for a reason you know. And even then, has any game ever worked well on the 'minimum' spec?!

I have a 8500LE, minimum, and its running pretty sweet! I only get slowdowns once I get a card from the judge, weird, or when I get a freekick near the box. But I think thats because my CPU is underclocked, XP1800 at 1160Mhz hehehe

Well from what I can see only people with very old comps or very ****ty cards like the GF4mx (regretfully I have MX too ;-/. at least the comp is powerful) have problems.

I have a Geforce4 MX, and the game runs absolutely fine. Turn off sound acceleration, should do it for you.
You want more FPS - turn down details.
And more? Hit ALT-ENTER and you get windowed mode...

Its works fine in other cameras, but with wide camera angle doesn't work properly, slows down when lots of players on the field. I also got a ****ty gforce 4 mx. I tryed everything thats been said here in the forums but no luck. I guess I need to buy a new vid card, its worth it for this game. Any other suggestions?

Originally posted by EugeneF
I have a Geforce4 MX, and the game runs absolutely fine. Turn off sound acceleration, should do it for you.
You want more FPS - turn down details.
And more? Hit ALT-ENTER and you get windowed mode...
yeah i did that ;-)
runs way better now

It seems that to play this game you must have a game pad, either that or there is still something wrong. Players are still incontrollable tho the game speed runs fine. Ive uninstalled this demo and unless, when the full release comes out there are a lot of relieved people on here without uber graphics cards saying they can still play it, i wont be buying this.
Konami have done a crap job of trying to convert me to their line, i would like to think i have a decent machine but its not good enough for them evidently.

You must try to understand that what makes ps2 a power consol is not its 333 MHz something or 16ram it's the gfx chip and if you would like to compare it to something in pc line of gfxcard it would be at least Geforce 3 as the read me says...

Geforce 2 or even sadder is if you got a geforce 2 mx :/ those cards just can't boost enough power to make a ps2 converted title play great on your pc or at least not that well...
Just be happy that you can play it or hope for some magic to happen in the final game :)

I cant play it...thats the kicker, i wish i could show you what i mean, but after dumbing down the graphics so it ran faster the players got more uncontrollable...
after kick off if i press, backwards for example the player will run back towards his own goal almost to the penalty box before i can get him to change direction, then its a 90degree turn at best, he then runs to the sideline and out. It is literally unplayble and it seems it has nothing to do with the graphics...

Which out of these would be the most recommended, keep in mind im not looking to spend too much...

http://www.abcd.com.au/Osiab/Asp/Frameset.asp


edit: forget it, stupid link doesnt work...

GeForce 4 Ti4200 128mb $244 (bit expensive..)
GeForce FX5200 128mb $154 (ok...)
ATI Radeon VE 64mb $89 (good price but crap card?)


still looking...

Oz_Leeds_Fan

You're having some weird PC configuration clash there...haven't seen anyone else complain about response times.
What's your specs in full? (mobo, Soundcard everything)

Here's a search for input lag...might wanna trawl through that
http://www.google.com/search?q=input+lag&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

First link on list http://www.theavonlady.org/theofpfaq/trouble/inputdelay.htm has a few directx tweaks and info about adjusting the pre-render setting of Geforce cards..might be worth a try

From what I've read you should steer clear of the FX5200...kinda new generation of Mx cards(major corners cut in the architecture)
www.beyond3d.com is the best place to check out gfx cards.

Edit:fixed links

Thanks Glory, your being really helpfull. I appreciate it my friend.
engine is an AMD Athlon XP 2000+, MMX, ~1.7Ghz.
256mb Ram (i think its the not so good one...DDR or SD...can never remember which is which)
Direct X 9.0b
Card: you know that one
Sound: VIA AC'97 Audio (WAVE) (what it says in dxdiag...)
not sure what else you want...whats mobo?

Perth Glory please check your PM :)

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
Thanks Glory, your being really helpfull. I appreciate it my friend.
engine is an AMD Athlon XP 2000+, MMX, ~1.7Ghz.
256mb Ram (i think its the not so good one...DDR or SD...can never remember which is which)
Direct X 9.0b
Card: you know that one
Sound: VIA AC'97 Audio (WAVE) (what it says in dxdiag...)
not sure what else you want...whats mobo?

Mobo = motherboard - version and make (check you manual to find out what chipset you are running eg. mine is Via KT-133A - Via have made some dodgy motherboard chipsets, mine included)
AC97...onboard sound can be a real problem.

I think my system is pretty similar to yours and I had major problems with WINXP & geforce2mx & onboard sound. I eventually replaced the Vid card and bought a SBlive.

You might have a similar problem...I would try disabling the onboard sound in your bios.

Han Will do :)

im looking at new cards atm...think i may try and save up and get something...Im getting Ram for xmas, and a gamepad.
atm im looking at 9600pro...the 9700 looks nice but its a little expensive..

Which one out of these would be better, i dont get all the brand differences so maybe someone in the know can enlighten me...
http://www.techbuy.com.au/search.asp?what=BeginSearch&srchQuery=Radeon+9600&page=1&fromSearch=1&srchCat=&srchManuf=ALL&srchSortBy=3&srchNumRecs=20&x=54&y=9

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
im looking at new cards atm...think i may try and save up and get something...Im getting Ram for xmas, and a gamepad.
atm im looking at 9600pro...the 9700 looks nice but its a little expensive..
Any Ati cards from 9500 up are excellent...will also last a long while in your machine with their dx9 capabilities(pixel shaders etc).
I'd stay away from the Geforcefx cards though..Nvidia really seems to have dropped the ball with their FX line.

Type of Ram really matters aswell. Unfortunately when I got my PC, DDR ram was insanely expensive so bought SDRAM. Now DDR ram is cheaper than SDRAM, much faster and my old SDRAM really struggles in todays games.

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
Which one out of these would be better, i dont get all the brand differences so maybe someone in the know can enlighten me...
http://www.techbuy.com.au/search.asp?what=BeginSearch&srchQuery=Radeon+9600&page=1&fromSearch=1&srchCat=&srchManuf=ALL&srchSortBy=3&srchNumRecs=20&x=54&y=9

I think you'll find they all stick very close to ATI's reference design. You'll find they will differ in features eg dual monitor out, Vidin/out,game bundles etc.
Best to stick the exact make and model you're thinking of getting into google and check out the reviews.

Those prices are pretty good btw...wonder how rich santa is feeling :)

just to add something to this, on my XP1800+, Windows XP, 512Mb RAM and GeForce3 Ti450 card, the game runs sweet as a nut at 1024x768, no slowdown, on jitters, nothing...

Close-ups during yellow cards or whatever are in slow motion, but I can't decide if it's meant to do that or not...

i played this game at 1280 1024 and it runs perfectly
i only have p3 1.3G, 256SDR and r9500.

Perth, I have SDRAM too :(
Did you found my second PM?? ;)

Originally posted by Han
Perth, I have SDRAM too :(
SDRAM is good enough for PES3( I have 356 mb sdram), it seems the emulation of the PS2 gfx chip is the killer.
Did you found my second PM?? ;)
Nope, but now I have :)

You can buy a Geforce4 Ti4200 64Mb for 70 quid in the UK.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd3N1YmNhdGVnb3J5X3NlYXJjaA==&cat_uid=17

and a Radeon 9600 for 90.47

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=49372

But allways do your research before buying a new card!!!!!

Originally posted by v6solid
I'm using AMD XP 2000+ , Geforce 4 TI 4200 , 512 MB DDR RAM.

The game ran perfectly without any kind of slow down,stutter,frame skipping etc on 1024x768 , High Quality and Quincunx AA. I even tried it on the wide cam-type, still no slow down.

So it must be your pc if the game slowdown.
Will I Have A Good Game with this video card?
Radeon 9k
512MB DDr Ram
Athlon Xp 2.2k+

Is the game capped at 60FPS, i can't seem to get anything higher than that. Here's my rig:

AMD Athlon 3000+
1GB DDR333 RAM
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128 MB

Thanks in advance.

I'm running PES3 at 1280x1024 2xAA 2xAF

Originally posted by SkuzzbaG
But allways do your research before buying a new card!!!!!

I agree, i was almost set to buy a Radeon 9600 pro yesterday when i thought to check over the specs one more time...turns out it only supports 4x and 8x Mobo's, well mines a 2x...dodgy i know, didnt know at the time i bought the system how badly i was getting ripped, and im hardly enough of a whiz to have figured it out myself:rolleyes:
Anywho, now thats pretty much out the window its seems like the best i can do is a 9200 256mb chip...its got all the fluff , SMARTSHADER, SMOOTHVISION technology, optimised for Dx9 and stuff...all for $192 Aus.
Im sold i think...the equivilent nVidia chip is the FX5200 but iv never had a Radeon before and i cant see how the NVidia one is better so i think im going with the Radeon...unless of course anyone has a dire warning to give me about either?:confused:

Smudger out of all FX cards FX5200 is not as bad, 9200 if I´m not mistaken is a remarked 8500?

Look at some benches before you buy, and make sure the 9600 won´t run o 2x boards. Cause I´m was almost sure most would still work at 2x since the socket is the same!

yeah its a remake of the 8500 series to keep up with newer technology but still appeal to the more budjet systems:rolleyes:
I will certainly do some more research..maybe ring a few people.
Cheers.:)

Guys i haven't look the topic from the start but if it is that the pc version is slow. I think that all these stutter etc. will be out of the official demo or the final version. Like ps2

is there a cheaper way to get rid of this slowmo stuff? It's not very enjoyable to play with this constant replay.
;)

Cut n paste my reply to another thread - don't know if it'll help you geforce mxers out though.

FIX FOR GAMESPEED PROBLEM : Make sure you haven't overridden the default refresh rate
Demo was running fine till I played around with a few settings(aa, af ,sound, vsync n refresh rates), after that it was running real weird -sometimes too fast, sometimes too slow. Set refresh rate to "application control refresh rate" and it's beautiful again :)
HTH

Smudger if i were you i would not buy a new gfx card yet but try the game with a pad mine now runs fine but seems to have the same problems as you with the keyboard and i have a radeon 9600:kader:

Originally posted by Perth Glory
Cut n paste my reply to another thread - don't know if it'll help you geforce mxers out though.

FIX FOR GAMESPEED PROBLEM : Make sure you haven't overridden the default refresh rate
Demo was running fine till I played around with a few settings(aa, af ,sound, vsync n refresh rates), after that it was running real weird -sometimes too fast, sometimes too slow. Set refresh rate to "application control refresh rate" and it's beautiful again :)
HTH
Where's the refresh thinggie???

See ya!

man this demo is weird. At first things ran all fine on my pc with res 1024x768 and high detail.
So i restarted my pc and all of a sudden slow motion gameplay. I didnt change anything on my pc.

So i set the resolution back to 640x480
Ok gamespeed went back to normal

I set it to 800x600
mmmm gamespeed still normal

I set it to 1024x768
gamespeed is slow motion


:kader:

I cant play on res higher than 800x600 anymore
when does konami give some official support for this problem.???

maybe someone can send all these slow motion problem threads to Konami, maybe they will react.

whats their email adress.....

wekickfifasarse@konami.com

(maybe)

Originally posted by MasterM
man this demo is weird. At first things ran all fine on my pc with res 1024x768 and high detail.
So i restarted my pc and all of a sudden slow motion gameplay. I didnt change anything on my pc.

So i set the resolution back to 640x480
Ok gamespeed went back to normal

I set it to 800x600
mmmm gamespeed still normal

I set it to 1024x768
gamespeed is slow motion


:kader:

I cant play on res higher than 800x600 anymore
when does konami give some official support for this problem.???

I highly doubted that KONAMI will support this problem since this is a LEAKED demo version. It's probably a beta since the ball is white. The final version of PES3 has an adidas sponsor ball.

Originally posted by ::..Federico Debla..::
Where's the refresh thinggie???

See ya!
Depends on your gfx card and make...chances are if you don't know what it is you haven't changed it :)
for Nvidia
Right click desktop->Properties
Will bring up display properties->settings tab->advanced->geforceti4400 tab
A small menu should now be displayed beside your main display window if not d/load the latest drivers for your card
On the side menu geforce4ti4400->Performance and Quality settings->Direct3d settings->Refresh Rate Overrides
ensure "applications control refresh rate" is selected, then ok.
Can also use Rivatuner for all this stuff, for nvidia or ati cards.

Originally posted by V-9
I highly doubted that KONAMI will support this problem since this is a LEAKED demo version. It's probably a beta since the ball is white. The final version of PES3 has an adidas sponsor ball.
I thought this demo was a copy of the one in the Magazine?
So people who bought the magazine have this demo on cd and have the same problem right??

its leakd

Well I'm running a 2 year old Pentium 4 1.8GHz 700mb ram Geforce 2 pro.

Never had a prob with ANY other game up until now...

I'm getting about 2 fps... even on the lowest detail and res. Only time it runs well is when I use a zoomed cam, but then of course I can't see the field.

Looks like I'm boned... don't think I'm gonna spring for a new vid card. Guess it's either play FIFA or "gasp"... I might actually have to go outside and play!!

;)

Canucklehead

have u tried shutting off FSAA (antialiasing) on ur gfx card setting? helps for many games out there.

the game is going so fast for me .
the fps is not high - its 60 .
my video card- radeon 9500 pro no AA\AF

I tryed ever setting and no luck. Its fine in the normal cam but wide cam slows me down from time to time. I also got a gforce 4 MX. I guess we should wait for the official demo and not buy a vid card. Since this is a the beta I believe. The requirments for this game is NVIDIA GeForce 3 or ATI Radeon 8500 video card, so mine should work.

It's running very smooth on my comp, much better than Fifa.

Athlon XP 2600, Radeon 8500, 512 DDR RAM

Yes, this demo does suck. Not only does is it slow in 1024xXXXX but it also stutters. (!)

If that's what the final is going to look like...

Originally posted by jumbo
Yes, this demo does suck. Not only does is it slow in 1024xXXXX but it also stutters. (!)

If that's what the final is going to look like...
Err, nope it's brilliant...medium system requirements but if you've got the hardware it's so much smoother, cleaner and crisper than WE7 on the PS2.

Originally posted by MasterM

I set it to 800x600
mmmm gamespeed still normal

I set it to 1024x768
gamespeed is slow motion


:kader:

I cant play on res higher than 800x600 anymore
when does konami give some official support for this problem.???

The ISS3(Nothing compared to PES3+FIFA, but still crapped on FIFA 2003 by far though) PC Port was the same situation, thats the only "cons" of ports from Konami - slow motion on high settings - depending on your Graphics Card.

Rockstar Games = King of Ports. :)

Originally posted by Perth Glory
Err, nope it's brilliant...medium system requirements but if you've got the hardware it's so much smoother, cleaner and crisper than WE7 on the PS2.

hahaaha good one.

i set the resolution to 800x600 and them details to medium AND the game does indeed, get A LOT faster BUT them cutscenes & cinematics are still in slow motion...

how ****ing pathetic. it ain't no smoother than on ps2.

Originally posted by jumbo
hahaaha good one.

i set the resolution to 800x600 and them details to medium AND the game does indeed, get A LOT faster BUT them cutscenes & cinematics are still in slow motion...

how ****ing pathetic. it ain't no smoother than on ps2.
k, if its cutscenes that float your boat maybe you're in the wrong forum :p
maybe on your comp "it ain't no smoother than on ps2" but the game I've got windowed is much smoother than WE7 on PS2, not a lost frame or stutter in sight - defintielty not "****ing pathetic". This is how PES3 should look.

Originally posted by Perth Glory
k, if its cutscenes that float your boat maybe you're in the wrong forum :p

Yo young hobbit. Don't be such a smarty. Gameplay alone doesn't make a perfect football game. Since you so into PES's "gameplay" and nothing more, why don't you stick to this demo then? I dare you not to buy the full version. You don't need extra teams and features, right?

Originally posted by jumbo
Yo young hobbit. Don't be such a smarty. Gameplay alone doesn't make a perfect football game. Since you so into PES's "gameplay" and nothing more, why don't you stick to this demo then? I dare you not to buy the full version. You don't need extra teams and features, right?
Errr yes I'm into Pes's gameplay, I like how the game plays - don't see how you can get from that to me not needing the full game...Of course master league/cups/kits adds to gameplay....
This is pointless....there is no set defintion of gameplay, it's completely relative.
Point was if you think this game is "****ing pathetic" due to slow cut scenes then this might not be your game....was j/k anyway.

Well, Konami should realize once for all that they CANNOT ask for such high system specs.
FIFA being the Graphics Master itself doesn't need all those high-expensive-system requirements.

Don't miss understand me, I like PES 3 even if it runs slow on my PC, and I like the graphics too, but Konami can't think that everyone lives for their games, or that everyone is rich enough to buy a new video card just to satisfy their MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS.
I just hope that, as V-9 said in some other post, this is just a bug of the leaked demo version... it might be true that being a leaked version it could contain bugs being fixed by konami and that this was just a beta of the demo, and it might be fixed for the official demo and/or full game, but I found it hard to belive.

See ya!

Originally posted by Perth Glory
Point was if you think this game is "****ing pathetic" due to slow cut scenes then this might not be your game....was j/k anyway.

hold'on hold'on holla young hobbit. I didn't say "the game"was "****ing pathetic". I said it's "****ing pathetic" how the game runs in slow-mo during cut-scenes.

Originally posted by Perth Glory
Errr yes I'm into Pes's gameplay, I like how the game plays - don't see how you can get from that to me not needing the full game...Of course master league/cups/kits adds to gameplay....
This is pointless....there is no set defintion of gameplay, it's completely relative.

In my book "gameplay" is what's happening on the field.

Since you all about ^that^, what you need more teams & cups for? You can use one or two teams and still get a lot (everything) out of this game... .

Ok, I'm j/k. Playing witcha man. :) Just stop posting so much about the gameplay........... :kader:

Originally posted by ::..Federico Debla..::
Well, Konami should realize once for all that they CANNOT ask for such high system specs.
FIFA being the Graphics Master itself doesn't need all those high-expensive-system requirements.

Don't miss understand me, I like PES 3 even if it runs slow on my PC, and I like the graphics too, but Konami can't think that everyone lives for their games, or that everyone is rich enough to buy a new video card just to satisfy their MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS.
I just hope that, as V-9 said in some other post, this is just a bug of the leaked demo version... it might be true that being a leaked version it could contain bugs being fixed by konami and that this was just a beta of the demo, and it might be fixed for the official demo and/or full game, but I found it hard to belive.

See ya!

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. The PS2 is no slouch when it comes to shifting gfx around and has a vastly greater memory bandwidth than the mx line of cards...

Also, KCET have said themselves it's just a straight port of the PS2 version(hence the need for at least gf3 level processor with a fair amount of VRAM)....my guess is they have been given very few resources to port the game as the money people have no idea how well the PC version will sell and using a decent gfx card to emulate the PS2 gfx engine was the quickest way to get the game out the door.
Just my guess though.

so what's the actual speed of gameplay?
when I play in 640x480, speed is actually quite fast.
in 800x600, speed is slower, but still decent..
1024x768 is mostly slow mo...
so its between 800x600 vs 640x480 for me, thing is i dunno which is a better reflection of the actual speed of gameplay in PS2

i'd agree with Glory there. Thats not to say it was a good move by Konami however. They have shut out a large portion of their fan base by making this game unplayable on most peoples PC. It also stifles their attraction for new fans that dont own consoles, like me for example and i am one of very many im willing to bet.
Its disapointing but...i was gunning for an upgrade anyway:mrpimp:
Not everyone is tho...:kader:

Originally posted by arcturuz
so what's the actual speed of gameplay?
when I play in 640x480, speed is actually quite fast.
in 800x600, speed is slower, but still decent..
1024x768 is mostly slow mo...
so its between 800x600 vs 640x480 for me, thing is i dunno which is a better reflection of the actual speed of gameplay in PS2

As long as I let the game control the refresh rate it runs at the exact same speed(perfect) at 640x480, 800x600 or 1024x768(any higher it starts slowin down).
So if for you 800x600 is slower than 640x480 then I think 640x480 is closest to the right speed.

Originally posted by Oz_Leeds_Fan
... Thats not to say it was a good move by Konami however.
****ing stupid move more like. Thing is, if the PC version doesn't sell well, whoever made the decision to not put much effort into the port will say "See, didn't sell well, we won't bother next year"- if this happens I'll be pissed :f***:
That's if the version we're playing is the final code, definitely not the final gfx (boots, ballsnot being updated) so might not be final code.

I seriously think that maybe there is some problem with the game where it doesn't seem to work on certain system configuration.

Have you guys tried to update all sort of driver? DirectX ? Soundcard etc ?

It's kinda strange because I tried it on my friend's pc where he only own a GF2 TI card, and the game still ran quite smooth in lower resolution.

Originally posted by Perth Glory
As long as I let the game control the refresh rate it runs at the exact same speed(perfect) at 640x480, 800x600 or 1024x768(any higher it starts slowin down).
So if for you 800x600 is slower than 640x480 then I think 640x480 is closest to the right speed.
I've had the slow down / speed up problem but now changed my monitor refresh to "adapter default".
This seems to have made the game run a a constant speed.
Is there anything else I can do to ensure it runs at the 'correct' speed ?

Originally posted by brianon
Is there anything else I can do to ensure it runs at the 'correct' speed ?
Apart from make sure your system meets, or preferably above, the required specs, not really.
Downloading a movie of PES3 to compare would be the best way to check, but alot of the time the compression methods used either speed up or slow down the framerate.

my.....PIII733 ,192M sdram,r7500

moving slower when more people in sight,but still can be played....is's a fantastic game and i will buy a new graphic card for it!
using keyboard to play is ok but option settings can't be save!

Tomorrow I'll ask for some video card prices, I want to buy a new card just because of this game... if I had to spend all of my savings just to buy a new card to run this game perfectly I'd do it, because it's worth it....

See ya!

Originally posted by ::..Federico Debla..::
Tomorrow I'll ask for some video card prices, I want to buy a new card just because of this game... if I had to spend all of my savings just to buy a new card to run this game perfectly I'd do it, because it's worth it....

See ya!

yea you could buy one, but it wont solve your problem with this demo

I have a radeon 9700, and as i said before i cant play on 1024x768
But the weird thing is i could play on this res before. All of a sudden it went slo mo, while I didnt change any setting on my system. So it aint the system requirements that cause the slo mo, its something else, but what??

You have to change your display settigns in your control pannel to the same settings as the display in the game.
I was playing with 1280 x 1024 in game but display was only 1024.

Hi ppl,
I just got the PES3 Demo..The game runs perfectly on Default Resolution,but when I go up to max settings the game slows down real bad at sometimes specially when the ball is in the centre of the field or at the 6yard Box..other than that it runs perfect on the default settings..by the way my PC specs are P4 2.2Ghz with 2GB RDRAM and Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500 64MB..so I think I've got more than enough of ram..anyways the demo is excellent,gr8 gameplay and Ok graphics even in low res..good job Konami :)

Originally posted by dujing
my.....PIII733 ,192M sdram,r7500

moving slower when more people in sight,but still can be played....is's a fantastic game and i will buy a new graphic card for it!
using keyboard to play is ok but option settings can't be save!

That's because it's the demo.

The correct boots and ball's aren't even in it.

Originally posted by ehab2000
Hi ppl,
I just got the PES3 Demo..The game runs perfectly on Default Resolution,but when I go up to max settings the game slows down real bad at sometimes specially when the ball is in the centre of the field or at the 6yard Box..other than that it runs perfect on the default settings..by the way my PC specs are P4 2.2Ghz with 2GB RDRAM and Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500 64MB..so I think I've got more than enough of ram..anyways the demo is excellent,gr8 gameplay and Ok graphics even in low res..good job Konami :)

2 gigs RAM ??? jesus mariaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Originally posted by ::..Federico Debla..::
Well, Konami should realize once for all that they CANNOT ask for such high system specs.
FIFA being the Graphics Master itself doesn't need all those high-expensive-system requirements.

Don't miss understand me, I like PES 3 even if it runs slow on my PC, and I like the graphics too, but Konami can't think that everyone lives for their games, or that everyone is rich enough to buy a new video card just to satisfy their MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS.
I just hope that, as V-9 said in some other post, this is just a bug of the leaked demo version... it might be true that being a leaked version it could contain bugs being fixed by konami and that this was just a beta of the demo, and it might be fixed for the official demo and/or full game, but I found it hard to belive.

See ya!

Its not a bug, you simply won´t run a game on a DX7 card well. And DX8 are not that expensive to get especially if you live in Europe/USA.

don´t forget that this is the first time that pes is coverted to pc so the code needs more optimization so expect a better and less demander game next year

I did some research on my system P4 1.4Ghz Gforce 4 MX about 400 sdram. I tryed it with all kinds of settings and still the same except some improovements. I also will buy a decet vid card, its worth it for this game. For now I m using my bro's PC to play it. He has a Redeon 8600 1.1 Gzh Athlon 750 ddr ram.

Guys, if you can get ddr ram instead sdram might help. I tryed 256 ddr ram from my bro's pc and it works fine but with the wide cam sometimes the screen will get a slight shake when ever it gets crowded.

That's the huge problem pc games ever had. If you want your game to run smoother, you have to buy a new hardware (more ram, or new gfx, new mobos, etc) every new game. I don't know why everybody is complaining , nothing new about that...

Regarding the game relying hard on gfx cards, it has one reason. Every owner of a ps2 knows that it's games relies strongly on AI and physics, because of PS2 architeture. In we it isn't different, so it needs to use to much processor on the pc for this 2 issues, and left all the gfx tasks for the gfx cards.

We have to be patient with konami, it´s their first conversion to pc. It's normal that it takes 2 or 3 version to get the same fps and response times than in the console (with some resonable portability). Let's keep supporting then, cause at least they are not persisting on the same old sripts...

Those who want allways the newer gfx, use new computer parts and pay for that. Those who want to spent once in each 3 years, buy a console. But let's be patient with Kcet, because they love football, and respect it.

Hi I got 2 pc's:

first one:
Pentium 3 500 mhz
512 mb ram
Geforce 2 tnt 32 mb

Its runs very slow on that one but it works. There are no cinamatics in the game.

second one:
Pentium 4 2,3 ghz
1024 mb ram
Geforce 4800 ti

It works superb on this one but does that mean you need a brilliant PC for PES3?

Originally posted by Torrie425
It works superb on this one but does that mean you need a brilliant PC for PES3?
Not brilliant, but you do need a decent PC with a fully Directx8 capable video card .

Originally posted by Navajo
That's the huge problem pc games ever had. If you want your game to run smoother, you have to buy a new hardware (more ram, or new gfx, new mobos, etc) every new game. I don't know why everybody is complaining , nothing new about that...

Regarding the game relying hard on gfx cards, it has one reason. Every owner of a ps2 knows that it's games relies strongly on AI and physics, because of PS2 architeture. In we it isn't different, so it needs to use to much processor on the pc for this 2 issues, and left all the gfx tasks for the gfx cards.

We have to be patient with konami, it´s their first conversion to pc. It's normal that it takes 2 or 3 version to get the same fps and response times than in the console (with some resonable portability). Let's keep supporting then, cause at least they are not persisting on the same old sripts...

Those who want allways the newer gfx, use new computer parts and pay for that. Those who want to spent once in each 3 years, buy a console. But let's be patient with Kcet, because they love football, and respect it.

Hey, Fifa 2004 is for all the platforms and the demo runs super sweet. So don't tell me that a 2ghz or higher processor cannot handle PES3 AI. it's not because of the AI and physics. These two things are nothing for a processor. The conversion is bad. Just like GTA3 for Pc.

Originally posted by Szadou
Hey, Fifa 2004 is for all the platforms and the demo runs super sweet. So don't tell me that a 2ghz or higher processor cannot handle PES3 AI. it's not because of the AI and physics. These two things are nothing for a processor. The conversion is bad. Just like GTA3 for Pc.


FIFA2004 run slow on my PC. It's playable but not as silky smooth as PES3 PC.

it does seem from what im hearing that the conversion between PS2 and PC isnt that good with PES3, but then again, its Konamis first attempt, if this one flops a bit, the next one will be spot on, mark my words.

TROD.

Originally posted by TROD
it does seem from what im hearing that the conversion between PS2 and PC isnt that good with PES3, but then again, its Konamis first attempt, if this one flops a bit, the next one will be spot on, mark my words.

TROD.

it's a perfect conversion for me though.. the game is as smooth as the one on PS2.

maybe, but for a lot of people it seems a different story. The game on the PS2 for me is fine, no stutters or owt, im gonna download the PC demo in a few days, i doubt it will run as fast though, despite my PC being.,. pretty good.

TROD.

Originally posted by TROD
maybe, but for a lot of people it seems a different story. The game on the PS2 for me is fine, no stutters or owt, im gonna download the PC demo in a few days, i doubt it will run as fast though, despite my PC being.,. pretty good.

TROD.

I seriously think it might be their PC configuration. I tried it on some average PC and it still run smooth on mid or low details configuration.

well obviously you would think that would be the problem, but people who usually have good technical sense seem to be falling fowl of it. i dont know, its all a little too inconsistent.

TROD.

Keep in mind, that this is a straight PORT of a PS2 game. I mean, it doesnt even have mouse support, which is almost a crime for a PC game. FIFA on the other hand, have dedicated teams coding for different platforms. Sure the code base is the same, but each team codes to the strength of each platform. They were built from ground up.

However PES was coded on PS2 and straight ported to without taking advantage of PC platform. As long as the game runs, job done. Think of it as an official "emulation" of the game.

Do I think its a lazy move by Konami? Yes I do.

Does it warrant comparison with FIFA? NO.

Originally posted by Szadou
Hey, Fifa 2004 is for all the platforms and the demo runs super sweet. So don't tell me that a 2ghz or higher processor cannot handle PES3 AI. it's not because of the AI and physics. These two things are nothing for a processor. The conversion is bad. Just like GTA3 for Pc.
I dont think the conversion per se is bad, its just not a *proper* nor thorough conversion. Konami should have "PC-ize" :confused: it more, if you know what I'm saying.

i remember people saying that pes3 would run great because of kcet coversion...

Originally posted by lobo
i remember people saying that pes3 would run great because of kcet coversion...
And thankfully it does, smooth as silk. :p

This is weird because I have a good PC (AMD XP 1.4, 512 RAM, ATI 9500 pro) and the gameplay is a little too fast IMO.

also people who expect a new game to run on a tnt2 or geforce2/ATI 7000 series need to wake up. Its 2003 and those cards are like 5 years old. :p

thats true, but i bought my GeForce 4 last october...admitadly NVidia are at fault for maybe prettying up an old card and calling it new technology but to the average buyer, who doesnt know a heap about computers it was a good buy at the time. This game is the first one that i have hit a wall on. I dont think it was too much to assume that my card would have been able to handle this game.

I have 610 mhz , 384 sdram and geforce 256 32mb
Does this game run on this computer?

Does anyone now?

Originally posted by malcom
Does anyone now?
Sorry, no it won't
Your processor might make it but a p3 800 is min spec,
your gfx card definitely doesnt as a Geforce3 gfx card is required. (:/)

PES3 runs ok on my P3 600mhz, nvidia riva tnt2.

so, give it a try malcom.

Originally posted by pokwang

Think of it as an official "emulation" of the game.

Do I think its a lazy move by Konami? Yes I do.

Does it warrant comparison with FIFA? NO.

3 ver ygood points. I think thats a good way of looking at it, they've not done much to it, if anything, but i suppose WE will be able to. lol.

TROD.

How come the game need 5GB too run well?!!?!?! I have 1.2GB free and thats all i can manabge, this is the only game which needs 5GB free

Originally posted by Dan the monkey
How come the game need 5GB too run well?!!?!?! I have 1.2GB free and thats all i can manabge, this is the only game which needs 5GB free
Yes, it's insane. I think the final game will install all the commentary files for all the languages, instead of just asking you which language you would like to install during setup

HA HA...if only the EA people are reading this post now! i bet they're laughin outta their asses!

EA SPORTS ARE LIKE the master!

a bit like....

Ferrari in F1,
Utd in football
australia in rugby

they might get beaten a couple of times but the class shows at the end!

"form is temporary, class is forever" ;)

LONG LIVE EA SPORTS!! konami are a one hit wonder hoper ;)

lolllllllll lmfao!

Just thought i would let everyone know that i got the damn game working at last. 800x600 medium detail with it windowed. it only slows down a bit in the 18yard box and it is playable now. The interface issues seem to have fixed themselves and all is right with the world.
Cheers Glory, AccilateM and Liternit for the advice and help you offered, it was very much appreciated.
...oh, decent game too:p

I hear alot of people having a GeForce 4 mx 440. So do i.
Let me tell you the game is still playable.

All you have to do is put it on low quality, 640 * 480 Res.
Than with your video card turn off:
1. V-Sync (worthless ****)
2. Anti Alaising

After you have done that, try playing the game. The cut scenes are slow, but the game runs as smooth as can be. The one exception though is that it does slow down slightly in the 18 yard box.


That is fullscreen, not windowed

Guys, I don't own a PC and installed the demo at my girlfriend's, she's got one of those e-machines 1.8Ghz P3 or something like that... anyway,

I noticed the gameplay is slow motion no matter what I did. Now, since I don't know her specs I can't really tell you what I was or wasn't doing, but I sure wish there was a way to at least play the game without having to do that much modification to your PC.

That's why I own a Mac and not a PC, almost always you have to strip down your PC or modify a bunch of things just to have a friggin game demo work. That's completely stupid. I hate Microsoft and Konami.

APPLE IS KING.

The thing about this is like some of you said, it's a cheap PS2 emulation, and since I know Konami, they will make the full version be just that, a cheap emulation.

I was so eager to play this game, because besides hating a lot of things that Konami doesn't do, I still enjoy the gameplay on WE6, and now that I was so hyped up to play PES3 I just can't because the PC I use is just not good enough for Konami (5GB for a game, what the hell is that?)

I play FIFA 2004 demo just fine, but this stupid PES3 demo gives me the slomo gameplay. I guess I'll just stick with PS2 and buy the game in Feb when it gets here in the US. Meanwhile, I'll be playing FIFA which is also a really good game.

Kudos to EA for their great improvement besides some stupid little things.

F!@)(#ck stupid Konami which besides having the greatest gameplay out there, that's all they have, everything else is pure s!@#)!@(#it.

BTW, if any of you can help me play the game in normal speed w/o stripping down the comp, let me know.

THX.

OH no. How come those using the Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 440 have different results?

Milkman Joe - I've did everything like you've said and it still remains in slow motion.

my PC:

P4 1.8 Ghz
GeForce2 MX 400
256 RAM

I can't run the game in the normal speed. I tried all the suggestions in this forum. The situation is improved but still in slow motion. The game runs smoothly when the ball is in the side of the field but slow motion in the middle of the field and near the goals.

Actually I don't mind upgrading my video card but the problem is the 200W power supply and no AGP slot.

Can anybody give me some suggestions?

Thanks a lot.

Originally posted by kochung
Actually I don't mind upgrading my video card but the problem is the 200W power supply and no AGP slot.

Can anybody give me some suggestions?

Thanks a lot.
New power supply and mobo? :S

Edit:k being a bit more useful, but still same answer...
check this link http://www.ati.com/support/agpchart/index.html last PCI gfx card by ATI was teh radeon 7000 & PES3 requires at least an 8500...

Edit No 2 PNY has a geforce fx 5200 PCI card http://www.pny.com/products/verto/geForceFx/5200pci.asp you'll have to read up on it to see how it performs/compatibility with your system

Thanks Glory.

Actually I am thinking about geforce fx 5200 but it requires 250W power supply, which exceeds my stupid 200W power supply computer.

So does it really matter? Can I buy this card for my computer?

I honetstly couldn't say, never tried it. My guess would be major stability issues...just a guess though.

Other PCI links turned up by google, for yourself and anyone else stuck with a mobo that has no AGP slot.

Beyond 3d has a comparison between the Geforce 4 mx 440 and Fx 5200 Ultra, both of these are the AGP versions though but both cards are availale as PCI versions. http://www.beyond3d.com/previews/nvidia/nv34/

Also a very useful forum thread discussing the best card for someone to get GTA VC to run decently on a PC that has no AGP slot. hmmm it seems the non Ultra fx 5200 has its core and memory clocks set to pretty much the same as the mx 440. http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=5233

If you're considering the fx5200 make sure it's going to be reasonably faster than your mx card.

Originally posted by Szadou
Hey, Fifa 2004 is for all the platforms and the demo runs super sweet. So don't tell me that a 2ghz or higher processor cannot handle PES3 AI. it's not because of the AI and physics. These two things are nothing for a processor. The conversion is bad. Just like GTA3 for Pc.

You must be kidding if you want to make any comparison between the AI and physics of FIFA and PES3. FIFA is fully scripted, while PES3 it's based on real time algorithms.

BTW, if we had to compare it, if your computer runs FIFA fine, you would need a 5x better cpu to run PES3 with the same frame rates. Obivously, this is not the right way to compare it, but you started...

Mano said:
"The thing about this is like some of you said, it's a cheap PS2 emulation, and since I know Konami, they will make the full version be just that, a cheap emulation."

I totally agree with you mano, but don't forget that the conversion from PS2 isn't easy, regarding the complexity of it's architeture.

BTW, I do understand that people are furious with this conversion, because people need a good football game for PC. I do know that I'm not that furious because I do own a PS2 and a PC, so I'll keep footing on the console. But I'm really happy, because Konami is now looking for the PC owners to and will make other good versions. The other great thing is that now, EA will start to worry and will stop fooling us with pseudo new versions of their game...

But, remember, this PES3 demo isn't official, it's possible that the final version will run smoothly. I don't believe so, but it's possible.

my god this has to be the lamest forum thread ever
ppl complaingin that cant play it without a gamepad? why would u even bother not having one there like $20 ffs
and get rid of any mx cards they are awful.thats what u get for not showing an interest in what pc parts u brought.go back and play fifa because we dont need ppl like this stinking up the joint

we4ever

thank god i've got 3.2ghz :D :D