Arsene Wenger stunned football when he finally admitted he had seen a penalty incident involving one of his players..........Wenger effectively accused Holland of diving, while dismissing any suggestion of a similarity with the incident involving Robert Pires a few weeks ago against Portsmouth.

'There was no water underneath, but it was very nice,' declared Wenger, with more than a hint of irony, of Holland's fall.

'Robert was touched on the run and while I said that was a harsh decision, I don't think that this player was touched by anyone.' >>



I Serriouslt cannot take anything the man says seriously anymore, think its only a matter of time before others at Highbury see this too, his eye very special. :evil:

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this happened to him

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?s=&postid=894243

soccerbest has a point although i gave the link to the same extraxt in my threa before.
but whatever you say anti,arsene really sucks
ok. even if ruud was a diver.but every time arsene says i didn't see it when a matter involves his arsenal players and when the matter is against him he sees it.
now won't u agree on that fact?

Is it me or is that Dog pissing on the npower ad??

when did ruud dive??????

prove it ARSEs!!!

i think the question shoould be which dive has effected the result of man utd's games?

Originally posted by eddy_87
when did ruud dive??????

prove it ARSEs!!!
ok keep your pants on.

I think both sets of fans are highly subjective on these boards most of em anyway.
arse and ManU both have cheats and divers in their ranks.
the war of word between the two camps is comical at times. all anyone does is brand what the other says as bs

this is just part of mind games.... arsene should get charged for lying though... :evil:

i want ARSEs to prove it....we got big prove....PIRES dived.......!!!!
but they always say Ruud dive, Ruud dive....so, proove it!!!

ronaldo dived too but it didnt affect the outcome of the game.... and the group.....yet....

Originally posted by Fernandez
ronaldo dived too but it didnt affect the outcome of the game.... and the group.....yet....

he did not dive...he is skinny, thats why when someone make a contact on him, he will fly and u people sees it as diving.....:kader:

it is BS.
because your point is......you can't take Wenger seriously when you saw the dive he saw and agree that it was a dive.

I dont get your logic.

If they find it funny, they're obviously implying that Matt Holland didn't dive.

When in fact it was as clear as Le Bob's dive, and yet no-one's been quick to label him a disgrace to the game.

the same way that punches were thrown in the bburn/saints game rather than people jumping and shoving ala arse/manu, has not been labelled the begining of society's destruction.

Originally posted by eddy_87
he did not dive...he is skinny, thats why when someone make a contact on him, he will fly and u people sees it as diving.....:kader:
hahahaha
omg ... that's a lame excuse for an excuse :crazyboy:

shut up.

any manU fan would agree he goes down too easily. He needs to cleen up his act like Ruud has in the past month

Originally posted by Fernandez
ronaldo dived too but it didnt affect the outcome of the game.... and the group.....yet....

how many times do i need to remind you about the stuggart dive? :rolleyes: the outcome a penalty awarded.. of course it didn't affect the result but that is still a dive to me....

Originally posted by eddy_87
he did not dive...he is skinny, thats why when someone make a contact on him, he will fly and u people sees it as diving.....:kader:

like shearerm4 said.. this is the lamest excuse i ever heard as well.. i would like to quote JJ expression of that dive... he fall down like a piece of sh!t.... :ewan:

wow, seriously, 80% of the man utd fans' comments on this board are ridiculously stupid and VERY immature.
come on, arsene's backing his own freaking team, so what?
arsene lies, so what?
does it affect your lifestyle?
are you going to hell because arsene lies?
is it going to affect man utd in any way because arsene lies?

frankly, a few of you need to get a head check. really.

Originally posted by eddy_87
he did not dive...he is skinny, thats why when someone make a contact on him, he will fly and u people sees it as diving.....:kader:

It was a dive, get over it. :ewan:

shokz has the best ever avatar i have ever SEEN in my life:crazyboy: :crazyboy: :crazyboy: :crazyboy:

Originally posted by Amika
how many times do i need to remind you about the stuggart dive? :rolleyes: the outcome a penalty awarded.. of course it didn't affect the result but that is still a dive to me....


i said he dived.... why the heck you scolding me for..... :confused: i just said it didnt affected the result and didnt affected the group... yet.... coz it was a precious away goal...

AW ask Pires if he dived, Pires said no.

Instead of assulting him like Ferguson did to Beckham, he beleived him.

End of story.

Originally posted by shokz
It was a dive, get over it. :ewan:

I find it oh-so-ironic that you have Pires' dive as your avatar. :ewan:

Both Teams have have players that dive. Althouhg with the Pires and Holland things i wouldnt really called tem dives its more acting trying to make the ref see that there was a foul there.

Diving is where no contact is made and the player just goes down

In both of the incidents there is a small amount of contact but not enough to make the player fall to the ground like a train hit them

Originally posted by eddy_87
he did not dive...he is skinny, thats why when someone make a contact on him, he will fly and u people sees it as diving.....:kader: bullcrap.

what did pires do.... Forced Fouled ? stefanovic didnt trip him... its pires trailing leg that wraps around stefanovic's outstreched leg...and not the other way around.... as for holland, i think it was obstruction...

Obstruction? Heh, that's the first time I've heard that being associated with that penalty.

Lauren pulled out of the challenge and Holland "fell" over.

Mods Close this thread its just going to turn into who was diving and when.

The Fact is both Arsenal and United have players that dive and ive had enough of people trying to defending there players when they have quite blatently dived or fallen

yeah...this is all pires' fans' fault...

fernandez, that is one of the stupidest things i've seen ANYONE say.
we have people defending ronaldo but i don't see anyone pointing a finger and laying blame.
will you start to grow up? really. please do.

Originally posted by PaPaGeorGeo
Both Teams have have players that dive. Althouhg with the Pires and Holland things i wouldnt really called tem dives its more acting trying to make the ref see that there was a foul there.

Diving is where no contact is made and the player just goes down

In both of the incidents there is a small amount of contact but not enough to make the player fall to the ground like a train hit them


PERFECTLY WELL PUT.

Originally posted by enigma
fernandez, that is one of the stupidest things i've seen ANYONE say.
we have people defending ronaldo but i don't see anyone pointing a finger and laying blame.
will you start to grow up? really. please do.

i was just joking in a way, and for your information.... im not defending ronaldo....read my previous posts here..... and please dun accuse anyone anyhow..... but im sure papa is right about both teasm having divers.... but if diving is not making contact.... you would call the ones that make contact.........

both players can win a medal in diving in the upcoming olympic .... end of the story... thread closed....