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tom_barman
31-10-2003, 09:51:PM
ok, my first fifa 2004 attempt. it's an update of EA's poor try on Hannover 96 forward Thomas Christiansen (the best scorer of last years Bundesliga)
I know it's not that good by now, but since EA's one has no likeness at all...
i'm working on it

King Bob
31-10-2003, 10:08:PM
Well EA's is poor. U should uvmap the texture better tho. Maybe just take the EA texture and add facial hair. ;)

SlayerDeuS
31-10-2003, 10:48:PM
Haha, well yeh I agree wit bob, you don't have to show teeth, I doubt he is smiling constantly. Just add the facial hair, and it will look like him.

J@QBEK
01-11-2003, 12:07:AM
man more work with uv map

tom_barman
01-11-2003, 12:38:AM
little update ingame (the hair still sucks)

tom_barman
02-11-2003, 06:11:PM
here's my try on stuttgarts keeper Timo Hildebrand. he will be following Oliver Kahn in Germany's national team in 2006...

I know I have to work on the nose, what else is to improve?

J@QBEK
02-11-2003, 06:34:PM
timo ist good

yim87
02-11-2003, 06:57:PM
there's some sort of line on the right cheek (which is the left of the texture)

tom_barman
08-11-2003, 01:51:AM
here's a screen of hildebrandt with hair

tom_barman
08-11-2003, 01:58:AM
here's Fredi Bobic (sadly there not many good pics around, guess I have to work on that one)

eddy_87
08-11-2003, 09:14:AM
briliant :rockman:

tom_barman
08-11-2003, 08:30:PM
Originally posted by eddy_87
briliant :rockman:

thanx mate,
of course they're not brilliant cause I didn't even touched the 3d-shape. I really tried but I just can't handle damn oedit...
but it seems really easy this year, to catch some sort of impression of a player with the 2sf-technique. guess I'll go on this way because it leads to some results...

AcillateM
10-11-2003, 05:10:PM
looks very good

tom_barman
12-11-2003, 01:21:AM
here's stuttgart defender fernando meira

tom_barman
12-11-2003, 01:24:AM
M'Gladbach midfielder Igor Demo

tom_barman
12-11-2003, 01:26:AM
stuttgart midfielder Soldo

King Bob
12-11-2003, 02:52:AM
Fix the skincolour. Then it'll look good.

tom_barman
12-11-2003, 06:08:AM
you mean it's too dark? I made it darker because otherwise it would look too bright ingame.
maybe i can post some ingame screens...

manutd1fc
12-11-2003, 07:05:PM
where do ya get oedit from? :)

tom_barman
12-11-2003, 11:25:PM
there you go

http://oedit.nd4spdworld.com/site/index.php

manutd1fc
12-11-2003, 11:30:PM
finally.. some1 who helped me out :) Thnx alot elliot! :)

manutd1fc
12-11-2003, 11:34:PM
i need anything else to create faces?

tom_barman
12-11-2003, 11:44:PM
You're welcome.
I use ACDSee to create textures but any other good picture/paint prog should do it too
btw. I don't use oedit, I just can't handle it. I'm looking for a headshape that could possibly match the player I want to create and start from that texture on.
As you can see in my faces: that's not the best way to do it, but for me it works - I get some results and imo my faces still look better than a generic face (especially this year since all the generic players look the same)

You should search in the FIFA 2003 forum, I think flipgar did a good face tutorial, so get to know the basics...
cheers

manutd1fc
13-11-2003, 01:48:PM
searched all fifa 2k3 forums.. no luck on a tutorial damn
:( :( :(

tom_barman
13-11-2003, 09:54:PM
this is the thread i was thinkin of

http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68528&highlight=tutorial

tom_barman
14-11-2003, 07:41:PM
hannover midfielder Silvio Schröter (looks better ingame)

J@QBEK
14-11-2003, 07:54:PM
good face but show it near

manutd1fc
15-11-2003, 12:38:PM
eliot.. da pg flipgar gaved for da tut is down unfortunately :(

manutd1fc
15-11-2003, 01:15:PM
ups.. works afterall

tom_barman
16-11-2003, 01:17:AM
Talented German defender Alexander Madlung (Hertha BSC Berlin)

Linpa
16-11-2003, 01:40:AM
Fix the eyes and make the face itself a little bit whider!
cheers

King Bob
16-11-2003, 02:18:AM
Originally posted by tom_barman
you mean it's too dark? I made it darker because otherwise it would look too bright ingame.
maybe i can post some ingame screens...

I mean the face skincolour and the neck skincolour is way to different. ;) Btw your getting better and better keep it up.

J@QBEK
16-11-2003, 02:37:AM
bery good face

tom_barman
16-11-2003, 11:35:PM
hi fellas, I wonder if you could help me out. I having problems with this face for stuttgart midfielder Christian Tiffert I'm trying on. In oedit the hair looks good and everything's alright, but ingame the blonde thing is blurry or clipping. anybody have a idea why this happens and how to fix it?

btw. thanx king, j@qbek and everybody else who's posting here, I really apreciate that

tom_barman
16-11-2003, 11:42:PM
these are the textures i've used

Daz
16-11-2003, 11:46:PM
How did you import the faces into the game?? :confused:

tom_barman
16-11-2003, 11:51:PM
with biggui,
but I just replaced the specific face of Kevin Kuranyi in order to test the Tiffert face. but sadly I'm not able to assign the many faces I've made so far

Daz
17-11-2003, 12:12:AM
can u use EA graphics editor??

tom_barman
17-11-2003, 12:16:AM
I think this year you need to compress the files after importing and I don't know if you're able to do that with eagraph. with biggui it's pretty easy. search for the "face-import-into-the-demo-thread" by the don.

Any solution for my prob?

Daz
17-11-2003, 04:19:AM
thanks! :rockman:

tom_barman
17-11-2003, 05:41:AM
Hannover 96 brazilian defender Vinicius

ashcan
17-11-2003, 09:51:PM
brilliant faces! i really like to see that somebody is making for the best german club :crazyboy: ;)
just 2 small things:
- hildebrand looks were sad and angry, make him a little bit more friendly ;)
- tiffert has not this white stripe, it's just a little bit lighter than the other part ;) see here (http://vfb.de/medien/img/vfbspieler_3852_th.jpg)

tom_barman
17-11-2003, 09:59:PM
thank you ashcan, the tiffert face is pretty hard because it's based on that stupid kicker picture and my memories. guess I'll start that one from scratch...

btw. are you going to make a hannover 96 kit pack like last year? I really enjoyed that one...

J@QBEK
18-11-2003, 12:51:AM
nice, very nice man !

tom_barman
18-11-2003, 01:35:AM
here's vinicius ingame. guess I'll make the skin a bit darker and lighten up the hair a bit

tom_barman
19-11-2003, 07:03:PM
after fixing the clipping errors (thanx to king bob and arnaldo) here two more faces. hope they're not worthless

1st one: hansa rostock swedish midfielder Marcus Lantz

tom_barman
19-11-2003, 07:07:PM
2nd: Germany U21 and 1860 munich midfielder Andreas Görlitz (I really like that player: fast, aggressive, good crossing and dribbling... that guy is gonna be a good one)

ashcan
19-11-2003, 07:22:PM
Originally posted by tom_barman
thank you ashcan, the tiffert face is pretty hard because it's based on that stupid kicker picture and my memories. guess I'll start that one from scratch...

btw. are you going to make a hannover 96 kit pack like last year? I really enjoyed that one...

thanks ;) i've done, but in this stupid kits format they're not as good as last year... i just have to improve some parts and test everything in game, they'll be available soon at fifa4fans.de or in english: fifa4fans.com ;)

i've found an ctuall good picture of tiffert, maybe this on helps you... ;)
http://www2.vfb.de/medien/img/news_3453_th.jpg

you're new faces are also brilliant ;)

tom_barman
19-11-2003, 10:40:PM
thank you, good news about your kits and thanx for the tiffert pic. I really like this year Germany U21 team. guess I'll make some others from that too (Broich, Auer, Lahm - though there aren't many good pics around...)

J@QBEK
20-11-2003, 01:05:AM
u are gr8 man !. but Andreas Görlitz needs work ;)

tom_barman
20-11-2003, 01:49:AM
Originally posted by J@QBEK
u are gr8 man !. but Andreas Görlitz needs work ;)

thanx. about görlitz: the real picture gives a quite wrong impression of him, I think the oedit pic is just like him though it didn't work that good ingame (don't know why)

anyway, this is my first effort with the new pic of Christian Tiffert (gonna post ingame screens later)

tom_barman
20-11-2003, 06:03:AM
Fredi Bobic 2.0

tom_barman
21-11-2003, 05:51:AM
talented German midfielder Marco Engelhardt (Karlsruher SC)

aaronchoo
21-11-2003, 06:53:AM
try to match the neck colour with the head:)

Stuntman
21-11-2003, 04:23:PM
Your Vinicius looks perfect, the others look pretty good as well, nice job.

tom_barman
22-11-2003, 12:19:AM
thanx to everybody commenting here.
this is czech international and Hannover 96 forward Jiri Stajner

Tivi
22-11-2003, 12:39:AM
Wich Head did you take for your Tiffert Face?

tom_barman
22-11-2003, 12:44:AM
Originally posted by Tivi
Wich Head did you take for your Tiffert Face?

I used Patrik Anderssons (ID 364)

Linpa
22-11-2003, 03:43:PM
I really like the Tiffert Face! Release it please! And where can we download these gr8 faces?

enigma
22-11-2003, 03:51:PM
great faces, bro.

Ddogge2000
22-11-2003, 04:30:PM
the best face is tiffert:rockman: really good:rockman:

J@QBEK
22-11-2003, 05:06:PM
:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

Nady
22-11-2003, 06:47:PM
great faces! :D

tom_barman
23-11-2003, 12:49:AM
thanx to all of you.
I'll send my faces to www.gfo2004.de when face(replace)-raptor or an other editor is out. Before that you couldn't even use them, so it wouldn't make sence to release them now...

Here's another screen:
Christian Tiffert ingame and Jiri Stajner update (darker skin, hair-fix)

MATBO
23-11-2003, 01:06:AM
great, only great!!! and your speed is just scarry(H)

King Bob
23-11-2003, 01:31:AM
Tiffert is gr8 but Staijner looks worse now. Fix the skincolour not the lightness. ;)

aaronchoo
23-11-2003, 11:24:AM
lookin foward to d/l ing your faces!

tom_barman
24-11-2003, 01:18:AM
thanx for the comments.
@ king bob: your right about stajner, here's another fix of the skincolour. I'm really satisfied with that version, it's gonna be the final one (damn I need faceraptor...)

edit: mmmhh, when I compare the sreens it doesn't look like a big difference, but it really looks good ingame...

KingKONHEART
24-11-2003, 06:39:PM
Ich weiß nicht sieht zwar aus wie stajner aber irgendwie doch mehr wie eine megabehaarte möse!!:hump:

nadsag
24-11-2003, 07:57:PM
Very good faces mate!

tom_barman
25-11-2003, 02:07:AM
Originally posted by KingKONHEART
Ich weiß nicht sieht zwar aus wie stajner aber irgendwie doch mehr wie eine megabehaarte möse!!:hump:

naughty boy, I'm not gonna translate that one:mrpimp:

here's another update, this time the highly talented Andreas Görlitz. I'm really happy with that version...

Limberopoulos21
25-11-2003, 02:17:AM
On Gorlitz's face texture, get rid of the teeth, but other than that, I think it's perfect.

Ddogge2000
25-11-2003, 07:14:PM
mhh you must give tiffert hair but with anither hair he looks not so good who with hair

tom_barman
02-12-2003, 02:49:AM
after some time, here's another update: Hannover 96 midfielder Christoph Dabrowski

tom_barman
17-12-2003, 01:02:AM
Now that it's finally possible to add the faces to the game (though by replacing others) I will start working again and send a facepack to www.gfo2004.de next week.
Here's another Hannover 96 face: The damn ugly striker Thomas Brdaric. I just don't like that guy (like most of the people in Germany) but plays great the last games.

Master H
17-12-2003, 01:14:PM
You have to make a face of Marcelo Bordon!!! And Alex Hleb is also essentially!!! :D
Isn't it possible to add new faces without overwriting old ones?
I think you only have to make Bobic's eyes look more like slits, he has really small eyes. Then it'll look good!
Are there more faces for Stuttgart-players planned?

Keep on editing! :rockman:

tom_barman
23-12-2003, 08:48:PM
Well, I just sent 2 facepacks to the great german site www.gfo2004.de . They will hopefully upload them the next days.
so here's the content:
1st facepack is for my favourite club Hannover 96 and will include faces for Thomas Brdaric, Christoph Dabrowski, Nebojsa Krupnikovic, Jiri Stajner and Vinicius

there you go

tom_barman
23-12-2003, 08:54:PM
the 2nd one is called Bundesliga face pack pt. I and it will include faces for:
Igor Demo (Borussia M'Gladbach),
Marco Engelhardt (Karlsruher SC),
Fabian Ernst (Werder Bremen),
Markus Feulner (1.FC Köln),
Andreas Görlitz (1860 München),
Martin Max (Hansa Rostock) and
Zvonimir Soldo (VfB Stuttgart)

here's a screen

so check out www.gfo2004.de the next days
cheers

Daz
23-12-2003, 11:00:PM
Jiri Stajner's face needs to be a little wider ;)

Daz
23-12-2003, 11:01:PM
But they're all looking pretty cool ;)

J@QBEK
23-12-2003, 11:08:PM
looking very cool !

Master H
24-12-2003, 12:03:AM
Please more Stuttgart-faces!!! :rolleyes:
Your work looks really great!!! (H)

Daz
24-12-2003, 02:26:AM
Hey tom, could you have a go at Gary Neville? he looks utter pants ingame and no one has bothered to make one for him, i would have a go myself but i'm a little busy :(

tom_barman
24-12-2003, 08:42:PM
thanx guys.
@daz: I might try Neville next year, but I won't promise anything cause I mainly want to make Bundesliga faces and there are so many faces I want to make before.

Some of the faces presented in this thread do not look too great ingame, so they're not in the first facepacks.
I need to work on Tiffert's hair for example. But I'll release definitely more in the next weeks.
As I said before: I only edit textures and "borrow" the 3D-files from our mate Electronic Arts. That's why I'm not able to do every face I want to do. I'm limited in some way and very much depend on a good picture...
But I've already done 2 new faces:
Here's VfL Bochum defender Frank Fahrenhorst. He'll be going to Werder Bremen next season and is not too far away from making his way to the German national team.

tom_barman
24-12-2003, 08:51:PM
this one is Bosnia's and Hamburg's forward Sergej Barbarez. I'd say, I've never done a face so realistic before, but the hair is still bothering me a bit. I'll work on that but I'm not sure that I can make it any better cause this year's hairs just suck in general...

anyway, you'll see there'll be some more faces from me in the future, thanx for the support and of cause
cheers

Linpa
24-12-2003, 09:27:PM
I think Barbarez is a little bit too white! But the other one is good!;)

tom_barman
24-12-2003, 09:56:PM
I took the shots during a night game, so that's just the normal "FIFA's messing up the textures with the damn light effects" thing. But maybe i'll make it just a lil bit darker.

Daz
24-12-2003, 10:14:PM
hey tom so you have msn?

ashcan
24-12-2003, 10:47:PM
thy're both pretty good mate!!

steeeveman
25-12-2003, 04:12:AM
Fix the hair of F.F. (on the side a bit higher like on the real pic) but the face looks really good!

Barbarez head is perfect, make texture a bit darker!!

tom_barman
26-12-2003, 12:24:AM
About the light thing: If you compare the Fahrenhorst and the Barbarez texture you'll see that there's not too much difference. It depends much on the stadium and the time you play, wether the face will look OK or too much lightend. It's the same thing with the original faces. But I'll make a more darker version.

@daz: sorry I don't have msn or icq and for some kinda reason I'm not too much into these progs

btw DOWNLOAD my "Hannover96-face-pack" and the "Bundeliga-face-pack-pt.I" NOW

@ www.gfo2004.de

King Bob
26-12-2003, 03:16:AM
Naw don't darken the texture coz u're right it's because of the night game. If u make the color darker then he'll look brown in day games ;)

tom_barman
29-12-2003, 08:50:AM
Originally posted by King Bob
Naw don't darken the texture coz u're right it's because of the night game. If u make the color darker then he'll look brown in day games ;)

I just made it a lil bit darker. It has a good effect imo. I also did some work on the hairtexture. now it looks more realistic, especially from a distance. think this is gonna be final.

Sergej Barbarez 1.2 by barman

Linpa
29-12-2003, 09:05:AM
Now it's good!;)

tom_barman
04-01-2004, 08:30:AM
'O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
The ship has weather'd every rack, the prize we sought is won,
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring;
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck the Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

[...]'

(lil' piece of "O Captain my captain" by Walt Whitman - watch Peter Weir's "Dead Poets Society" if you haven't yet...)


Anyway, poetry has got nothing to do with FIFA and all I want to say is that I made a face for Hannover 96 team captain ALTIN LALA. I'm pretty satisfied with it, but here you go...

cyrex
04-01-2004, 08:33:AM
great face (H)

high-rizah
04-01-2004, 09:12:AM
nice~
love your faces...

Linpa
04-01-2004, 08:59:PM
Originally posted by high-rizah
nice~
love your faces...
Yeah, they are getting better and better!;)

Ole
04-01-2004, 09:38:PM
hi, i created a face for the player Altin Lala from Hannover96, thanx to tom_barman for his tips ;)
we should talk more, i made a face you already created
sorry, i dont know how to attach the image, in this post, the img-button and the link dont work together


picture1 (http://mitglied.lycos.de/thesemrau/96/projekte/lala-ingame.jpg)
picture2 (http://mitglied.lycos.de/thesemrau/96/projekte/lala.jpg)

tom_barman
05-01-2004, 01:18:AM
Two new face-packs by me will be ready to download soon

First one will maybe annoy you cause it features once again my favourite team Hannover 96.
this time it includes Thomas Christiansen, Julian De Guzman, Altin Lala, and Daniel Stendel.

Christiansen has long hair in real life but even though I tried I wasn't able to get get it done properly. But this short haired version is imho should be an improvement too.

tom_barman
05-01-2004, 01:24:AM
second one is another pack including some Bundesliga-players.

This time.
Sergej Barbarez (Bosnia & Hamburg),
Arthur Wichniarek (Poland & Berlin)
Frank Fahrehorst (Germany & Bochum)
Ferydoon Zandi (Lübeck)


DOWNLOAD them soon @ www.gfo2004.de or www.fifazone.com

Linpa
05-01-2004, 03:57:AM
I think they're brillant! Keep workin man!;)

tom_barman
08-01-2004, 10:41:PM
USA-international and probably new Hannover 96 forward Clint Mathis

totsata
09-01-2004, 02:30:AM
good mathis face but i think you should make the hair lighter:crazyboy:

santino
09-01-2004, 04:10:AM
great faces man(H)

tom_barman
10-01-2004, 09:43:PM
Well, when I saw that stuttart-faces thread by james, i thought I could have a go on that Imre Szabics picture too, cause I been trying twice with another pic but it didn't came out good.
james' one will be better by far cause he's so highly skilled but here's my version

tom_barman
10-01-2004, 09:51:PM
and here are two players from Germany's second division.

Adrian Aliaj (Rot-Weiss Oberhausen & Romania) &
Matthias Abel (FSV Mainz 05)

J@QBEK
10-01-2004, 11:23:PM
james Szabics is better but ur Adrian Aliaj Matthias Abel are gr8 !

cyrex
11-01-2004, 12:09:AM
gr8 kits, i like them very much. fantastic work tom :rockman:

Tivi
11-01-2004, 12:52:AM
Originally posted by cyrex
gr8 kits, i like them very much. fantastic work tom :rockman:


Kits? :D

btw. Looks Great ;)

MEISTER 2010
11-01-2004, 01:16:AM
Originally posted by tom_barman
and here are two players from Germany's second division.

Adrian Aliaj (Rot-Weiss Oberhausen & Romania) &
Matthias Abel (FSV Mainz 05)

Very nice faces :)

cyrex
11-01-2004, 02:29:AM
hehe lol :D i am drunk, sorry, i ment FACES (H)

Marcus
11-01-2004, 06:08:AM
Very nice and realistic faces:)

davestarke
11-01-2004, 07:02:AM
Imre Szabics looks great!!

Goo Goo boy
11-01-2004, 10:13:AM
Hey Tom firstly i want to congratule for those awesome faces you've done:)

but i dont understand why is everyone making german faces mainly stutgart's:o tired of seing the same feckin faces...


anyway, i have a request, since you're doing german faces pls make Meira's;)

And if you're planing to make other championships faces pls make porto's(H) if u want ill give u tons of pics, Cheers in advance and keep 'em coming:hump:

ashcan
11-01-2004, 06:57:PM
brilliant faces tom! espacialy sabizs is great!!

King Bob
11-01-2004, 07:57:PM
but i dont understand why is everyone making german faces mainly stutgart's tired of seing the same feckin faces...

mmmh what about Ronaldo, Giggs and Beckham? :rolleyes:

@Barman keep em coming m8! Make some Leverkusen Players plz. :) BTW i know u don't edit the 3d model but do u uvmap?

tom_barman
11-01-2004, 09:33:PM
thanx for evrybody commenting here.

@king bob: nah I try to keep it very close to the original texture, so it should look pretty clean without uv-mapping. I'm kinda lazy with these things...

tom_barman
12-01-2004, 09:43:PM
here's VfB Stuttgart Midfielder Aliaksandr Hleb.
The Nose looks totally wrong from the side, but the rest is good imho. Maybe I'll lighten up his hair a bit
sorry bout the dark pics but as you can see from the texture this is caused by the crappy stadium light effects

ashcan
12-01-2004, 09:59:PM
of course i reall enjoy it if everybody is making stuttgart faces :D
your hleb face is also good, but not perfekt... like you said, the nose needs some work and i can't really see hleb in this face, maybe you should make im a bit friendlier, give hime some smile ;)

tom_barman
13-01-2004, 01:53:AM
They call him "The Helicopter": VfL Bochum striker Vahid Hashemian

ashcan
13-01-2004, 02:06:AM
hashemian is great!!

P-B
13-01-2004, 02:29:AM
you make very very good textures!!!!!!
But why you make not updates for Star Player like Beckham or other players???????:confused: :) but very good faces!!!!!!

Daz
13-01-2004, 02:40:AM
Cos loadsa ppl hav already made Beckham :rolleyes: .... besides hes overated

Marcus
13-01-2004, 04:04:AM
Which is why he's in your sig?

Daz
13-01-2004, 04:06:AM
I've explained this before.... hes in my sig because at the time that i requested my sig, he was the best update i had done on a players face because someone requested it

Linpa
13-01-2004, 05:03:AM
Hashemian is just brillant! Gr8 face!!!;)

iamjames
13-01-2004, 12:03:PM
great faces here , tom_barman !
also pleasure to offer you a better photo , and got a great face from you !

MEISTER 2010
13-01-2004, 01:28:PM
@barman: You are the face-lord:)

J@QBEK
13-01-2004, 05:48:PM
amazing face !!

tom_barman
14-01-2004, 03:53:AM
I updated the Jiri Stajner face I've done. I think it's an improvement.

tom_barman
14-01-2004, 03:58:AM
here's a screen to compare the two versions

Daz
14-01-2004, 04:03:AM
Yep, definately an improvement ;)

ashcan
14-01-2004, 07:00:PM
much better! but you should make him fater is faces is to thin ;) but i know that 3d modeling is not your best skill ;)

tom_barman
14-01-2004, 07:23:PM
Originally posted by ashcan
much better! but you should make him fater is faces is to thin ;) but i know that 3d modeling is not your best skill ;)

in fact it's not even one of my skills...
but thanx anyway

tom_barman
19-01-2004, 01:36:AM
Swedish forward RADE PRICA (Hansa Rostock)

tom_barman
19-01-2004, 01:38:AM
Bayer Leverkusen midfielder MARKO BABIC

J@QBEK
19-01-2004, 01:59:AM
I can say you are already one of bests' facemakers! great work !

cyrex
19-01-2004, 03:33:AM
yeah tom is one of the best facemakers here :)

Linpa
19-01-2004, 06:58:PM
Fix eyes on Babic!;)

eddy_87
19-01-2004, 07:04:PM
very nice work dude! :rockman:

ashcan
19-01-2004, 09:41:PM
very nice tom :p
just the eyebrows of babic are bit to low... ;)

bili-flag maker
27-01-2004, 09:56:PM
Hey Barman,i like your face making style,i am new member from Croatia.
Can you please send me your faces for croatian player,like babic,brdaric.......:f***:
E-mail: luka69@hi.hinet.hr

tom_barman
28-01-2004, 12:19:AM
Hi Luka, thanx man.
Thomas Brdaric is indeed an German player. He even had an apearence in the German national squad some time ago.
I'm sorry but my recent faces will be included in a "German Bundesliga Patch" and I'm not sure when it will be released.

You can download some of my faces from www.gfo2004.de or www.fifazone.com

cheers

tom_barman
30-01-2004, 04:21:AM
He's back where he belongs!
Spanish midfielder JAIME SANCHEZ FERNANDEZ will spend the rest of the season with the reds of Hannover 96. He's been here last year and became very popular with the team and the fans.
Of course I made a face for him. This is my second try and I have to say I'm very very satisfied with it.
there you go...

tom_barman
30-01-2004, 09:32:PM
Another Bundesliga player: SC Freiburg midfielder RODA ANTAR

the head is a bit too long, but you know I'm limited in that way. Anyway, I think it's pretty OK, though...

steeeveman
30-01-2004, 09:45:PM
Both look very good!
Come on and try o-edit it´s very easy to use,so then you could make really PERFECT faces!!

cyrex
30-01-2004, 09:58:PM
all your faces are gr8!!:rockman:

Martin Kolar
30-01-2004, 10:41:PM
man it's gr8 to see someone making faces of others players than Ronaldo, Beckham, Del Piero :rolleyes:
Keep up the good work!

ashcan
31-01-2004, 12:02:AM
Antar is very good! Even with this crapy picture you made such a good face ;)
Fernandez is also good, but the hairs and the skin color isn't perfect yet ;)

tom_barman
02-02-2004, 05:38:AM
Thanx guys. I really apreciate this.

Do you remember this guy?
Yeah, right! He's back and he's in Hannover! Former Liverpool and Galatasaray defender Abel Xavier will sign a contract with my favourite Club Hannover 96 today. And here's his face for FIFA...

makio
02-02-2004, 05:49:AM
looks great, i remember tryin that face way back in fifa 2001 or 2002.

aaronchoo
02-02-2004, 09:25:AM
great xavier face!

Linpa
02-02-2004, 07:37:PM
This face is just awesome dude!:rockman:

Youri Bakker
02-02-2004, 08:13:PM
Amazing faces mate!!

cyrex
02-02-2004, 09:29:PM
awesome xavier face :rockman: :rockman:

J@QBEK
02-02-2004, 09:47:PM
xavier is awsome

King Bob
02-02-2004, 10:44:PM
Nice man. Could u try to make Juan, Franca and Berbatov? :D

tom_barman
02-02-2004, 11:12:PM
Thanx evreybody.

btw: this is Xavier's actual hairstyle. I don't think I'll be able to create something that weird...

ashcan
02-02-2004, 11:44:PM
Originally posted by tom_barman
Thanx evreybody.

btw: this is Xavier's actual hairstyle. I don't think I'll be able to create something that weird...

:D Very nice hairstyle :crazyboy:

steeeveman
03-02-2004, 12:24:AM
lol what a funny hairstyle :crazyboy:
But great face!!

ashcan
04-02-2004, 12:41:AM
Hey barman, i hope i'm allowed to ask this question:
What's about your great Tiffert face? I think you didn't released it, did you? But if you've finished it, could you please send me (my mail adress (ashcan@fifa4fans.de))? Would be very nice of you - Lots of thanks!! ;)
greetings,
ashcan

tom_barman
04-02-2004, 07:03:PM
about Tiffert: I been trying on that face again the last days. It wasn't released yet cause I wouzldn't regard it as great. In fact it pretty much sux because of the hair. I think I got his expression with the face-texture but I won't be able too fix that hair prob.
So here are two different versions. Probably you could tell me which one's better.
First one, the hair is...I don't know, it just looks wrong.
The second one the hair is too long, but I'd probably go for that version...

btw. I think there'll be a Bundesliga-Face-Patch soon, including my recent pieces as well as the latest works of King Bob, FP23 and other german patchmakers. So watch out...

here's the Tiffert screen

Nady
04-02-2004, 07:14:PM
gr8 tiffert face :)

tom_barman
04-02-2004, 07:44:PM
just made some ingame screen. version 2 looks better than I thought. I think this one will be included in the patch.
have a look

aaronchoo
04-02-2004, 08:15:PM
improve the hair!
good face!:)

Linpa
04-02-2004, 08:57:PM
Take version 1! It has way more Tiffert-expression than too! Just work on the hair on version 1 at it'll become perfect!

ashcan
04-02-2004, 09:31:PM
I really like the in game pics! Don't know which version you've used for them, two? Take this version, it's great! Just make the bright stripe over the whole head (also über die ganze länge des kopfes, da "fehlt" in der mitte ein teil, oder?) ;)

J@QBEK
04-02-2004, 11:12:PM
tiffert is very good

tom_barman
05-02-2004, 01:33:AM
thanx guys
yes the ig-screens are from "version 2", I'd prefer that one.

Maybe the face impression on "version 1" is slightly better but somehow it just doesn't look right imho, can't quite explain it. Since Linpa likes the "version 1" here's a quick ig-screen of that one

btw. the bright stripe is supposed to be over the whole head, maybe it's not thick enough, I'll figure that out...

here's version one ingame (as I said, I prefer the other one...)

King Bob
05-02-2004, 01:52:AM
btw. the bright stripe is supposed to be over the whole head, maybe it's not thick enough, I'll figure that out...

Maybe u didn't replace every single bmp of the 7 with the new bmp.

cyrex
05-02-2004, 01:55:AM
great tiffert face matey ;)

tom_barman
05-02-2004, 02:26:AM
OK here we go again. Now with a little hair-update the first version looks way better imho. Hard too decide...

steeeveman
05-02-2004, 04:12:AM
Looks very. very good now!!

cyrex
05-02-2004, 04:15:AM
hmm, this version is more realistic, nice job ;)

aaronchoo
05-02-2004, 12:48:PM
very good !!!!
:)

ashcan
05-02-2004, 06:51:PM
Yes, really great face!!

Linpa
05-02-2004, 07:19:PM
Originally posted by tom_barman
OK here we go again. Now with a little hair-update the first version looks way better imho. Hard too decide...
Yes this version is still better! Now it looks luvely!:rockman: Not much more to improve!

tom_barman
10-02-2004, 09:43:PM
I wanna make a face for Borussia Dortmund's Danish midfielder Niclas Jensen.
The texture is quite OK, but I'm not too sure what head to take. Maybe you can help me deciding. I'd probably go for version c.) though he's not that chubby anymore.
what do you think?

tom_barman
10-02-2004, 09:44:PM
here are some real pics to compare

iamjames
10-02-2004, 11:06:PM
IMO the fitting one is Version.e) , it looks like him a lot .
you can add some details to the face from the real photo(the top-right one) .
and make his chin shorter in Oedit .
hope that will help you , mate .
also hope a great face there again . :p

J@QBEK
11-02-2004, 12:03:AM
yes version e is the best !! nice work mate

tom_barman
11-02-2004, 03:25:AM
Ok here are some ingame screens of Niclas Jensen.
I took version e.) and made some updates on the hair and chin. Now it looks good, I guess...

ashcan
11-02-2004, 03:47:AM
The light Parts on the right and left of the forehead are looking really strange ;)
But head is good ;) (And texture exepct those light things too ;) )

tom_barman
12-02-2004, 02:43:AM
Stefan Wessels (1.FC Cologne)

cyrex
12-02-2004, 02:49:AM
wessels looks too old ;)

tom_barman
12-02-2004, 02:54:AM
Originally posted by ashcan
The light Parts on the right and left of the forehead are looking really strange ;)
But head is good ;) (And texture exepct those light things too ;) )

The shot's been done during a night game, so that's probably causing some strange effects. But as you can see on the texture there are no "light parts". At least I can't see them...

Fifaplayer23
12-02-2004, 03:09:AM
sorry, but the face doesn't look like wessels ;)

bili-flag maker
12-02-2004, 04:02:AM
Hey barman you are great,your faces are best!!!!!!!!
When will you release your faces and where?:rockman:

tom_barman
12-02-2004, 04:19:AM
There'll be a German Bundesliga Face-Patch including my work as well as the recent pieces of King Bob FP23 and 96Ole. It'll be released soon.
Guess this one will be in it as well. Former Borussia Dortmund forward Giuseppe Reina (now he's with Hertha BSC Berlin)...

MEISTER 2010
12-02-2004, 02:17:PM
It looks really good :) :rockman:

ashcan
12-02-2004, 04:32:PM
Wessls is perfect ;)
For Reina i'm not sure - in my memory he's a bit darker... But i'm relly not sure, otherwise this face is great too! ;)

Linpa
12-02-2004, 06:48:PM
Gr8 faces man!:rockman: But u really have to update the eyes of Jensen..they don't look good!;)

Camacho
13-02-2004, 11:57:PM
I think that U're the best facer maker the alltimes Aw C'mon.......

I've asked some faces of the Real Madrid because if anyone like's to make face, why don't make someone, Nobody want to make them.....


It's my last oportunity that I think to request any face, I like your great work and, COULD YOU MAKE Santiago Solari, Cambiasso, fix Ivan Helguera and Pavón faces???.. (REAL MADRID)

If U don't want, just tell me and I wont to request any face!!!!..


P.D. Sorry for my bad English!!!..:rockman:

J@QBEK
14-02-2004, 02:26:AM
amazing faces

tom_barman
16-02-2004, 06:13:AM
Thanx guys.

I need to say that I deeply hate Bayern Munich, but this guy is one of my favourite players of all time - Mehmet Scholl.
Beyond his fantastic soccer-abilities, he's one of the smartest guys you'll ever find on a pitch and he's got a great taste concerning music.

So here's my update of EA's Mehmet Scholl face

tom_barman
16-02-2004, 06:17:AM
this is the pretty poor EA-version

cyrex
16-02-2004, 06:17:AM
nice schollie face (H)

MEISTER 2010
16-02-2004, 03:30:PM
You be the King (Y) :junior: :clapwap:

aaronchoo
16-02-2004, 06:04:PM
MEISTER 2010
, plz resize ur siggie:)

Camacho
18-02-2004, 10:03:PM
I'm waiting your answer about if you could edit some Real Madrid faces????.....:(



If you don't want make them just tell me please!!!!.....



But I'm think U're the best face maker!!!..

marcelinhoss
19-02-2004, 12:31:AM
i like all your faces,can you make Juan the Leverkusen player's for me please?

tom_barman
22-02-2004, 01:05:AM
thanx guys.
sorry no real madrid faces from me. btw. it's not easy for me to do requests cause I don't use oedit so everything else hast to fit and I'm not able to do every face i want propperly.
I'm also pretty fed up with this crappy game and it's circumstances...

this is young Hannover 96 forward Denis Wolf.

ashcan
22-02-2004, 02:37:AM
Really great mate!!

marcelinhoss
22-02-2004, 02:44:AM
and Juan?

evilbert1987
01-04-2004, 07:06:PM
hope you would create some more bvb faces in future, like some of the youngsters(gambino,odonkor) ore flavio ! by the way - your jensen face is very good!

gonzo99
02-04-2004, 01:31:AM
I see you've made faces for most of the Hannover squad (nice!). I was hoping you could also do Cherundelo, Mathis, and Kleber as well. Thanks

chugadine
13-05-2004, 12:13:AM
Hi, you are the best !!! , your face its asome!!!.but i ask for you, can you make face for real madrid players (solari,Cambiasso,Portillo, etc.)? thanks!! for your answer.:crazyboy: