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Fernandez
06-11-2003, 05:49:AM
the big one... we have are dangerous at set-pieces.... sunday...

shokz
06-11-2003, 05:57:AM
Bit early, but It won't hurt aye. :ewan:

Huge weekend in store for us, I hope it goes our way.

Liverpool vs. Manchester United.

Chelsea vs. Newcastle United.

Arsenal vs. Tottenham Hotspur(North London Derby - Ever since Arsenal moved to North London, I dont think theres a more bitter rivalry in England :)).

Charlton Athletic vs. Fulham(London Derby)

manutd4eva
06-11-2003, 06:05:AM
I really do hope United can run those fools into the ground.

and Forlan to give Dudek more nightmares!!!!!!!!!!!:rockman:

$teauA
06-11-2003, 06:21:AM
oh boy liverpool are gonna get blasted since they will be coming off their 50-0 loss in the UEFA Cup vs Steaua :crazyboy:, no but seriously it will prolly b a tie.

Fernandez
06-11-2003, 06:23:AM
diego, ooooooohhh.... diego, oooooooohhh.... he came from uruguay, he made the scousers cry.... by shokz...

ManU2000
06-11-2003, 07:10:AM
It will be a very close match in the end. I hope I'm not disappointed since I'm waking up extra early for this one to watch it live with the pregame show. Thank goodness that this match won't be pay-per-view. 5 to 8 AM here on the west coast. Thanks FSW. (H)

Liverpool 1-2 United

For Liverpool:
Kewell

For Manchester United:
Forlan
RVN

That is my prediction. (Y)

SB9Dragon
06-11-2003, 08:41:AM
It will be a close match, but I see Man U to keep on their winning ways after they were victorious in the Battle of Britian....

I think a 2-1 win

Kewell (Middle of first)
Ruud (Later on in the First half)
Forlan (Middle of the 2nd half)

Alistair
06-11-2003, 09:37:AM
I'm gonna be realistic and predict a 2-1 win in favour of United...

Forlan
Ruud

Owen

John_Arne_Riise
06-11-2003, 09:48:AM
With Hamann back and Man Utd without Scholes i think we'll win. Diego might be playing well, but Liverpool v Man Utd fixtures have been really good games the last few years (bar Old Trafford last season :rolleyes: ) But i think 2-1 to Liverpool.

Owen/Gerrard
RvN (from the spot)

Bobby
06-11-2003, 10:31:AM
Heskey, Owen
Giggs

Liverpool 2-1

mufc_daddy
06-11-2003, 10:35:AM
Both teams have strikers that score but have been lately (Heskey, Forlan).


Diego ONFORMlan will score against Dudek and Ruud will add to that.

If Liverpool score Kewell will be the man to do so.

Riise against Ronaldo will be a great battle as they both have pace. I think Riise may win the battle though as he can defend and attack, whereas Ronaldo can only attack.


2-1 United (with Hypiia getting sent off again)

::Jason::
06-11-2003, 11:40:AM
We'll see heskey scoring the last minute winner with a 'perfectly executed bicycle kick'!!

no, really united takes this one 2-0!

soccerbest
06-11-2003, 11:59:AM
Unpredictable this one, go for 2-1 United win too. ;)


Forlan and Ruud upfront (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=282514&cc=4716)

m3th0d
06-11-2003, 12:10:PM
3-0

keane, nistelrooy, giggs.

(H)

mufc_daddy
06-11-2003, 12:24:PM
Originally posted by soccerbest
Unpredictable this one, go for 2-1 United win too. ;)


Forlan and Ruud upfront (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=282514&cc=4716)


Ruuds comments should be a boost for Forlan. It would be great to see them build a partnership that will hopefully be as good if not better than Yorke & Cole's one.

Forlan has terrific control and has pace. His shot that Ruud got his first goal off was an amazing bit of skill/control. I think if they play more often together, then the best is yet to come.

But then there is Solksjaer, who also plays well with Ruud. Difference is that Forlan is 6 years younger than Solksjaer.

Still Ruud + Forlan good one for the future.

Fernandez
06-11-2003, 01:17:PM
it is kinda an advantage when you have a two-footed striker in ur team..

eddy_87
06-11-2003, 01:29:PM
with the players available now for Liverpool, i can't see 4-0 loss to them anymore....;)

i'm gonna go for ManU, 3-1

RVN, Giggs, Djemba
Sinama Pongole

Fernandez
06-11-2003, 02:10:PM
i havent made a prediction... :( 2-0 united... united can really shut out defences when needed and against pompey, some players were rested.... who broke fortune's leg last season? oh yeah, the scorers will be ruud and forlan..

rumanu?
06-11-2003, 03:23:PM
united to win again 2-1:rockman:

If you wanna go to heaven when you die,
You must keep the Red flag flying high,
You must wear a Red bonnet,
With "**** the Scousers" on iiiiiiiiiiiiiit,
If you wanna go to heaven when you die...

13 years
;)

VanTheMan
06-11-2003, 03:36:PM
17 years in the making of the greatest english club in history............sir alex ferguson will get a huge present this sunday when united will kill liverpool from the title.
ruud will blast ,forlan vs. dudek -II will bring light to this game
united to clinch it 3-0

KoreaJjang
06-11-2003, 03:42:PM
ALTHOUGH I HATE MAN UTD AND DERE FANS!!! I think United will win dis 3-1 (Giggs and two for Forlan//Smicer for Liverpool)

Budge
06-11-2003, 04:04:PM
this will be, as usual, a brutal and hard clash, unpredictable, which is why we will win...

1-0 for me

either harry or emily...

northstar
07-11-2003, 12:20:AM
....go 'pool.... :X

RUSI
07-11-2003, 03:11:AM
2-1 Liverpool

Owen and Kewell
RVN:rolleyes:

Rob
07-11-2003, 03:20:AM
1-1 I think.
Forlan at the moment is hot, he is everywhere, so I think he will net one for United, and for Liverpool, I don't know.

man united forever
07-11-2003, 05:01:AM
This is an impossible game to predict. Last season everyone said we'd be shafted over at Anfield, and we came away with THAT win. In previous seasons, Liverpool have upset the odds to beat us, and you can pretty much throw the formbook out the window when it comes to a Liverpool-Manchester United match. We will really miss Scholes on Sunday, especially on the quick breaks that will be so useful at Anfield. Fergie might go for Philip Neville in the centre with Keane, and Giggs and Kleberson out on the wings. The rest of the team pretty much picks itself:


-----------------------------------Howard---------------------------------------

-------------------------------Ferdinand--------Silvestre---------------------
------Gary Neville--------------------------------------------------Fortune---

--------------------------Keane--------------Phil Neville-------------------
-------Kleberson----------------------------------------------------Giggs--

---------------------------------------------------Forlan----------------------
-----------------------------van Nistelrooy---------------------------------




Subs:
Carroll
O'Shea
Djemba-Djemba
Ronaldo
Fletcher

No predictions on this one.

shokz
07-11-2003, 05:12:AM
Kleberson was not on long enough Tuesday night, but I love the way he has his shoulders when he runs, samba style, funny **** innit? He gave us a proper glimpse of what he can do on that wing.

Would not mind settling for Bellion/Kleberson/Ronaldo/Fletcher on the right-wing.

mufc_daddy
07-11-2003, 05:22:AM
I think Kleberson can be a the new "Veron" only better.

We have a great selection for right wingers which can also include Solksjaer (i prefer him up front).

Does Kleberson prefer playing on the right or in the middle though?

man united forever
07-11-2003, 05:28:AM
I think he prefers the centre, but considering Solskjaer is out and Fergie doesn't want to give the youngsters more than a game a week, I think he'll put Kleberson out there. Besides, he can't really drop Neville after his solid performances.

Personally, I wouldn't risk an injury to one of the young stars in a game that is known for aggressive tackling, but Fergie knows best.

On a side note, how is Kieran Richardson doing? He hasn't had many first-team opportunities this season, but the boy has talent.

Fernandez
07-11-2003, 05:39:AM
next season... ;) i think fergie will start fletcher.....

mufc_daddy
07-11-2003, 05:49:AM
I also wondered about Richardson aswell. I think Ronaldo has stepped up in the pecking order over him (even though Ronaldo is mainly right footed, he has played on the left a few times) I thought this year would be a step up for Richardson and was hoping he would plkay more games because England needs him for the future (left midfield problem).

shokz
07-11-2003, 05:52:AM
He didnt do too bad against Leeds United in the Carling Cup, could've been better though.

soccerbest
07-11-2003, 02:11:PM
I hope Fergie stick with the same line-up that play against Rangers, but saying Ronaldo will only play once a week, he might be dropped and Fletcher starts.


My line-up

Howard

G Neville Rio Silvestre Fortune


Fletcher Keane Phil Neville Giggs


Forlan Ruud


Subs: Carroll, O'Shea, Butt, Eric Djemba Djemba, Kleberson, Ronaldo, Bellion

Fernandez
07-11-2003, 05:19:PM
why are there seven subs? .... forlan scored 6 goals in the premiership last season.... one header,two left-footed and three right-footed... he scored 9 goals overall last season...

VanTheMan
07-11-2003, 10:30:PM
michael owen is 60% to recover from the injury by sat night .so florent may start.
this time united will start a 6-match win streak against liverpool.
go united!!!!!!!
liverpool are down and out of the championship race.forget it.

X-Ter
08-11-2003, 01:56:AM
Hope liverpool get a red card again :D :p

actually i dont want any red cards :crazyboy:

i think it will be 2-0 - forlan and RVN :)

northstar
08-11-2003, 07:32:AM
Is Biscan playing? I wonder if I need to take him out of my fantasy lineup :p

manufan
08-11-2003, 08:41:AM
This is always a classic. I say a Man Utd win as I cant see them performing so well against Rangers then just suddenly collapsing at Liverpool. Man Utd wont be overawed at the visciously oversang "You'll never walk alone".

Let it be known to all Scouse that I WILL take back all of that if Man Utd lose.

Jedi Mind Trick
08-11-2003, 12:33:PM
2-1 united.

forlan and giggs.

heskey.

eddy_87
08-11-2003, 12:38:PM
i'd like to see liverpool win......:rolleyes:
















*cough cough*
No Way
*cough cough*
:evil:

garlei
08-11-2003, 01:05:PM
check out this video on manutd.com

http://rma2.manutd.com/publish.sps?syndicatorguid={BE206D15-24A1-48A4-A22B-D3C55358A535}&rmasiteinstanceguid={7EE7A638-E3E3-424C-B192-C9FC1FFC908D}&rmapageid=35&asset_id=55381

Liverpool vs Man United 1997

Man U wins 3-1
2 headers from Gary Pallister
another one from Andy Cole

pay attention to how Gary Neville passed a defender before sending in a cross.

Haukur Gudnason
08-11-2003, 01:42:PM
Originally posted by manufan
This is always a classic. I say a Man Utd win as I cant see them performing so well against Rangers then just suddenly collapsing at Liverpool. Man Utd wont be overawed at the visciously oversang "You'll never walk alone".

Let it be known to all Scouse that I WILL take back all of that if Man Utd lose.

duly noted :ewan:

shokz
08-11-2003, 01:51:PM
make yer mind up ;p

Fernandez
08-11-2003, 02:01:PM
ya, make yer mind up.... id love to see keano score again,,,.

man united forever
08-11-2003, 03:31:PM
I may have been wrong - O'Shea, Ronaldo and Fletcher might be handed starts tomorrow according to BBC:
Match preview (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/3233009.stm)

shokz
08-11-2003, 03:45:PM
Interesting

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/3131127.stm

northstar
08-11-2003, 04:20:PM
Liverpool has won most of the recent matches, and this is a different team than last years 4-0 losers.
The home team seems to win also.
http://www.soccerage.com/en/09/i8096.html

Fernandez
08-11-2003, 04:41:PM
who will be our match referee anyway? i want foy.... he booked players that doesnt dive.... :crazyboy: should keano score, he will score his 50th goal for man utd... from the site... interesting... we have a good record at anfield... 5 wins to liverpool's 4.... o'shea deserve a spot.... we have chalked up 10 clean sheets already this season..... and we have yet to concede a goal at home in the champs league...

shokz
08-11-2003, 04:51:PM
Fernandez,

Anfield
Sunday, 9 November
Kick-off: 13:45 GMT
Referee:

Graham Poll

Fernandez
08-11-2003, 05:59:PM
we would see youngster battle.... darren fletcher and cris ronaldo v andy le tallec and florent sinama-pongolle.....

VanTheMan
08-11-2003, 07:48:PM
i would victor both of united's youngsters to edge out. cause le tallec sucks so far.but although i have found sinama to be a future great,ronaldo is a little bit more than him

shokz
09-11-2003, 04:29:AM
Originally posted by VanTheMan
le tallec sucks

He is one of France's TOP hot prospects, no way in hell does he suck, United wanted him, but Houllier has a great skill in persuasion. :ewan:

I bet you wouldn't say he "sucks" if he were a Red Devil. :evil:

John_Arne_Riise
09-11-2003, 06:22:AM
Originally posted by shokz
He is one of France's TOP hot prospects, no way in hell does he suck, United wanted him, but Houllier has a great skill in persuasion. :ewan:

I bet you wouldn't say he "sucks" if he were a Red Devil. :evil:

And just to add to that, we paid 6mil for Le Talent and Pongolle, whilst man utd paid 12mil for Ronaldo. IMO, we have got the better deal now, and over time.

Jedi Mind Trick
09-11-2003, 06:25:AM
Originally posted by VanTheMan
i would victor both of united's youngsters to edge out. cause le tallec sucks so far.but although i have found sinama to be a future great,ronaldo is a little bit more than him

i mean, i'm a man.utd fan like you too...but saying le tallec sucks so far is bit of injustice. it's just like everyone else saying ronaldo's a bust. it's only been a handful of games for him, and yea he hasn't been spectacular, but he does look promising.

shokz
09-11-2003, 06:27:AM
Originally posted by John_Arne_Riise
And just to add to that, we paid 6mil for Le Talent and Pongolle, whilst man utd paid 12mil for Ronaldo. IMO, we have got the better deal now, and over time.

Your probably right!, but I'm well pleased with Ronaldo thus far and we're gonna look back on it in a few years and say, it was worth it. :ewan:

Florent Sinama-Pongolle is superb, he reminds me alot of Dwight Yorke during his Manchester United days.

A few weeks ago some members were mentioning Heskey and Forlan in the same line, how they cant score, then all of a sudden they both hit form, Ironically. :ewan:

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 06:29:AM
Originally posted by shokz
He is one of France's TOP hot prospects, no way in hell does he suck, United wanted him, but Houllier has a great skill in persuasion. :ewan:

I bet you wouldn't say he "sucks" if he were a Red Devil. :evil:

and the 'Fwench' Touche.... i think ronaldo is more expensive is because of his age.... he is younger than andy and florent...

Eng4WorldCup
09-11-2003, 06:36:AM
Originally posted by John_Arne_Riise
And just to add to that, we paid 6mil for Le Talent and Pongolle, whilst man utd paid 12mil for Ronaldo. IMO, we have got the better deal now, and over time.


that reminds me

RIO - 30 mill

Sol - FREE


thats rite mancs




for the game, i hate to say it but 2-2 or 1-1 with a late winner from manure

John_Arne_Riise
09-11-2003, 06:41:AM
Originally posted by Fernandez
and the 'Fwench' Touche.... i think ronaldo is more expensive is because of his age.... he is younger than andy and florent...

No, Le Tallec and Pongolle are both 19, what difference does a few months make? We got them on the cheap only because we got them both when they were roughly 17, i believe. But they were both highly sought after players mind you.

RUSI
09-11-2003, 06:44:AM
I hope thisis atleast a close match

not a one-sided bashing:kader:

John_Arne_Riise
09-11-2003, 06:56:AM
Originally posted by shokz
Your probably right!, but I'm well pleased with Ronaldo thus far and we're gonna look back on it in a few years and say, it was worth it. :ewan:

Florent Sinama-Pongolle is superb, he reminds me alot of Dwight Yorke during his Manchester United days.

A few weeks ago some members were mentioning Heskey and Forlan in the same line, how they cant score, then all of a sudden they both hit form, Ironically. :ewan:

Of course, Ronaldo is a dangerous player. And yes, it is quite ironic how both those players have put on their scoring boots at the same time. I just hope its Forlan who doesnt score this weekend tho :p

Amika
09-11-2003, 07:41:AM
Originally posted by shokz
A few weeks ago some members were mentioning Heskey and Forlan in the same line, how they cant score, then all of a sudden they both hit form, Ironically. :ewan:


yah yah yah... IT'S ME!!!! IT'S ME!!!!!! :f***: :crazyboy: :p

RUSI
09-11-2003, 07:50:AM
OH MY GOD


I just realized that thismatch is on FSW

THANK GOD

I am about to nut in my pants:D

man united forever
09-11-2003, 02:32:PM
Originally posted by Eng4WorldCup
that reminds me

RIO - 30 mill

Sol - FREE



Beckham, Scholes, Gary and Phil Neville, Butt, O'Shea, Brown, Giggs - all free.

That's right :p:p:D

senght
09-11-2003, 03:11:PM
Liverpool continues their revival

2-1

Owen
Smicer

Forlan

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 03:36:PM
Originally posted by man united forever
Beckham, Scholes, Gary and Phil Neville, Butt, O'Shea, Brown, Giggs - all free.

That's right :p:p:D

so is fletcher, bellion(compensation only), eagles ....

::Jason::
09-11-2003, 03:40:PM
0-4 last year :brow: :brow:

0-3 this year, with Forlan scoring a hat trick :D

seriously, maybe Ruud dives a spotkick for us and weŽll win 0-1 ;)

Bobby
09-11-2003, 03:46:PM
Parlour - Free...

...I'll get me coat.

mhflierman
09-11-2003, 03:53:PM
Originally posted by Ljungberg08
Parlour - Free...

...I'll get me coat.


MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

Now that's a class comment! :D (H) :crazyboy:

man united forever
09-11-2003, 04:40:PM
Originally posted by Ljungberg08
Parlour - Free...

...I'll get me coat.

ROTFLMAO

northstar
09-11-2003, 06:14:PM
Originally posted by Forlan
0-4 last year

LAST SEASON'S CORRESPONDING GAME:
Liverpool 1-2 Manchester United
1 December 2002 - Ref: Alan Wiley
Liverpool scorer: Hyypia 82
Man Utd scorers: Forlan 64, 67

:p

it was 4-0 at Old Trafford

How long until kick off? my tv timetable says less than an hour but that doesnt sound right. Maybe I can take a nap. Its 4:15 am here and I was watching the rugby world cup matches.

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 06:24:PM
about half-an-hour more... and that was from bbc...

shokz
09-11-2003, 06:29:PM
it is raining in Liverpool :o

/me wishes he had money. :S

Check out this line-up Fernandez.

Liverpool vs Manchester United - 13:45(1 hour and 15 minutes from now.) - Sky Sports 1
Chelsea vs Newcastle United - 16:05(Straight after Pool/Utd)
Sevilla v Real Madrid - (A couple of hours after Chelsea/Ncastle)

:ewan:

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 06:35:PM
i'll be watching epl till drunk...

shokz
09-11-2003, 06:42:PM
Liverpool have arrived at Anfield without Michael Owen, and its an hour till kickoff - I guess he is out with injury? I bet you this leads to speculation in Monday's papers.

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 06:50:PM
while watching preview show, i learnt that harry redknapp is lampard's uncle, which means he is jamie redknapp's cousin...

shokz
09-11-2003, 06:52:PM
Frank Lampard Senior must be a brother to Harry Redknapp. :crazyboy:

but, i could not give a crap :ewan:

Sky Sports "Goals on Sunday" kicks ITV's "The Premiership" anyday of the week.

Today they had Dennis Wise and Roberto Di Matteo(he was class).

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 07:07:PM
congrats on 5700th post... im sure liverpool fans would say gerrard is the best english midfielder right now... but i would like to say scholes but i feel lampard is the one.... he is so disciplined and did not get sent off last season...

shokz
09-11-2003, 07:19:PM
Ryan Giggs is just one championship medal away from becoming English football's leading title winner.
The Welsh winger has won eight titles in his time at United, and is tied with Alan Hansen, Phil Neal and Kenny Dalglish, who all registered their championships in Liverpool's glory days of the 1980's.

As he approaches his 30th birthday, Ryan told the Official United magazine he has a ninth title in his sights.

He said: "It's a big target for me. To win eight is great, but there are a few others on eight as well, all from Liverpool, so hopefully I can get to nine this season."

It looks likely that only Arsenal or Chelsea could feasibly pip United to the title and deny Ryan his record, but Giggs isn't ruling Liverpool out of the equation.

He said: "There may be a small gap between the top three teams and the rest at the moment, but no-one at United is thinking it's going to stay that way.

"At this stage, all you need to transform the look of the table is to put together a run of six or seven games and Liverpool have proved they're capable of that before.

"We still regard them as title contenders."

And another thing Giggs has learned in his time at United is just who the fans love to beat.

He said: "If you ask the fans, they will always want to beat Liverpool and, of course, City."

source-manutd.com (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=46196)

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 07:29:PM
did you know howard was the new york life humanitarian of the year 2002... greta facts... nearer to kickoff...

shokz
09-11-2003, 07:30:PM
yes

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 07:44:PM
fergie's playing 4-3-3..

shokz
09-11-2003, 07:46:PM
4-4-2 Fernandez.

http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/poolutd.gif(think I'll do my post match lineups like this from now on :p)

minute silence in rememberance.

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 07:47:PM
silence.... debut of white kit...

RUSI
09-11-2003, 07:52:PM
Good Moning Everyone

I cant believe they are showing a sky telecast on FSW in the U.S.A.

:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

United jereys are ugly as ****e

It is a shame Owen isnt in:kader:

RUSI
09-11-2003, 07:55:PM
Originally posted by rusi_88
Good Moning Everyone

I cant believe they are showing a sky telecast on FSW in the U.S.A.

:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

United jereys are ugly as ****e

It is a shame Owen isnt in:kader:


actually now that u can see them from further away, they arent as bad
as they look close up

RUSI
09-11-2003, 08:01:PM
GREAT chance for Liverpool
should have scored
ball was free in the penalty box

Liverpool have played better so far

shokz
09-11-2003, 08:21:PM
LOL Forlan, just had to record that.

van Nistelrooy booked for?

Ali the master
09-11-2003, 08:32:PM
for handball apparently,
liverpool getting the better of it, poor nevilles gettin taunted by the fans

Ali the master
09-11-2003, 08:34:PM
half-time

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 08:35:PM
HT...0-0

shokz
09-11-2003, 08:36:PM
Liverpool the better side in the first half, our back 4 were solid, only relying on long balls too van Nistelrooy/Forlan through the first half.

Forlan! - Ouch. :S (http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/forlan.zip)

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 08:37:PM
stop post-boosting alex... :crazyboy:

shokz
09-11-2003, 08:44:PM
After see'ing that replay of van Nistelrooy's booking - WTF were you thinking Ruud?. :rolleyes:

shokz
09-11-2003, 08:53:PM
Michael Owen is not in the squad for the England game with Denmark this weekend.

Heskey has also picked up an injury.

Howard with an amazing save.

Ali the master
09-11-2003, 08:53:PM
Kwell with a shot, heskey hurt, corner...............

RUSI
09-11-2003, 08:54:PM
well you have been:kader:

Kewell with a great strike, nice save by howard

shokz
09-11-2003, 08:54:PM
For anyone looking for a good laugh.

Forlan! - Ouch. :S (http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/forlan.zip)

:evil:

Some good football from United, great play from O'Shea, Forlan, Fortune.

mhflierman
09-11-2003, 08:58:PM
Just watched the first half. Liverpool came out with guns blazing. They had ManUtd with their backs against the wall for the first 15mins, however Liverpool weren't really dangereous. After that I felt ManUtd were pretty much in control, but they too weren't really dangereous.

From a ManUtd point of view, I think there's too much space between the strikers and midfield. We're playing on the counter attack, but whenever one of the strikers has the ball, they can't do much with it.

If it were up to me, in the second half I'd play Giggs on the left (he's now playing on the right) and Ronaldo on the right. Our defence is holding well, and we look able to score a goal, but the strikers haven't got enough support.

Mutt
09-11-2003, 08:59:PM
im getting game data from soccernet.com the guy is describing it as a boring game? shame they dont show games in aus, and shame i have to be up at 2am before school to get results :p.. come on liverpool.

shokz
09-11-2003, 09:00:PM
Dudek was soooooo lucky! omg. :funny:

RUSI
09-11-2003, 09:01:PM
u get my P M shokz?

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 09:04:PM
giggss.... 1-0..

Ali the master
09-11-2003, 09:05:PM
:rockman: SUPREME GIGGS
YES YES , 1-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rockman:

shokz
09-11-2003, 09:06:PM
van Nistelrooy got a touch on it.

Supposed to be a cross, Giggs will claim it!.

:ewan:

mhflierman
09-11-2003, 09:06:PM
Damn, Dutch TV is 10 minutes behind. Second half just started. I'm off.

shokz
09-11-2003, 09:07:PM
Originally posted by rusi_88
u get my P M shokz?

Yeh, check pm! :ewan:

Hans
09-11-2003, 09:09:PM
IT`s NOT BROADCASTED HERE !!!!! F.UCK !!!!! NEVER BEEN SO PISSED OFF IN MY LIFE !!!!! :f***:


( keepin` my fingers crossed, go UNITED !!!! :rockman: )

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 09:09:PM
record teh goals shokz, deja vu for dudek...

yim87
09-11-2003, 09:10:PM
i can't bear to not post in this thread any longer. **** that.

shokz
09-11-2003, 09:12:PM
Originally posted by Fernandez
record teh goals shokz, deja vu for dudek...

I did get the pompey goals, I was just too lazy to respond and upload. :ewan: :funny:

will do put the united goals up.

Payaah
09-11-2003, 09:13:PM
Originally posted by Fernandez
record teh goals shokz, deja vu for dudek...
u r suppose to say please:p ;)

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 09:15:PM
2-0...giggs.....rox.... :rockman:

yim87
09-11-2003, 09:15:PM
sigh. 2-0:(

Ali the master
09-11-2003, 09:19:PM
SUPREME GIGGS:rockman:
2-0
RYAN GIGGS!!!!!!!!!!

Ali the master
09-11-2003, 09:21:PM
:( kewwll has scored:(

MOMENT LATER

no penalty given to liverpool

MOMENTS LATER

bad defence by man.utd, bad goal kick from howard, and murphy has missed

shokz
09-11-2003, 09:22:PM
What a goal by Harry Kewell, amazing cross from Sinama Pongolle.

shokz
09-11-2003, 09:24:PM
Should've been a penalty for Liverpool, there is no doubt about that.

yim87
09-11-2003, 09:24:PM
oh hell no.. that should've been a penalty..:(

rio was lucky.. he clearly tripped sinama..

shokz
09-11-2003, 09:26:PM
Pongolle and Le Tallec are terrorising our players amazingly, I think United have lost all of there composure.

Lucky escape for Howard!

yim87
09-11-2003, 09:27:PM
indeed.

but i doubt whether they will have enough time to put it into the net..:(

shokz
09-11-2003, 09:37:PM
LOL HESKEY

yim87
09-11-2003, 09:38:PM
OMFG! what a miss by heskey..:f***:

full time. 2-1 man u. clear penalty decision for liverpool denied. point stolen.

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 09:38:PM
FT....2-1.... again... yeah... (H)

Ali the master
09-11-2003, 09:38:PM
2-1, GLORY MAN.UTD!!!!!!!!!!!!
SUPREME GIGGS!:rockman:
HESKEY COULD HAVE SCORED AT THE DYING MINUITES
BUT MISSED:kader:

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 09:40:PM
lady luck was on arsenal's and man u's side this week... we survived barracks of attacks by the home side, for liverpool, get a striker...

ogsimon
09-11-2003, 09:42:PM
did you see the look on kewells face at the final whistle he looked pissed off. He had the choice of arsenal, manchester united, chelsea, liverpool, and his decision has come back to haunt him.

Does he have a realistic chance of trophies in 2-3 years.

I have to admit though liverpool have some good youngsters, they definately lacked owens cutting edge

shokz
09-11-2003, 09:43:PM
Great result for us, Liverpool were so unlucky, Heskey should've done better at the end, his one and only chance on goal and he choked.

Originally posted by ogsimon
did you see the look on kewells face at the final whistle he looked pissed off. He had the choice of arsenal, manchester united, chelsea, liverpool, and his decision has come back to haunt him.


You read my mind, he looked like he had a sulk on him.

Stotty
09-11-2003, 09:44:PM
WOOOo HOOOO! That'll do for me

ewan :ewan:

Neutral LFC
09-11-2003, 09:44:PM
Oh Emile, Emile, Emile.....for pete's sake at least HIT the ball and miss, when you just fall down I want to cry.

Flo-Po and TLT were amazing when they came one.

soccerbest
09-11-2003, 09:44:PM
Great win. Keep up the pace on arsenal and chelsea. :rockman:

gbfootball
09-11-2003, 09:45:PM
Originally posted by Fernandez
lady luck was on arsenal's and man u's side this week... we survived barracks of attacks by the home side, for liverpool, get a striker...

Why do you think Liverpool need a striker? Don't you realise Michael Owen and Milan Baros play for them, only they're injured?

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 09:46:PM
i think i know why poll didnt award a penalty, im sure most referees watch previous matches so i think he thought that sinama had dived to get a penalty and that it would be a suspicion if he got consecutive penalties.... (theory,i am not saying sinama is a diver).... forlan and the whole team played well today... unlucky for liverpool, but thats been the case for all matches that finished at home 2-1 in favour of the away side...

Neutral LFC
09-11-2003, 09:48:PM
Originally posted by shokz

You read my mind, he looked like he had a sulk on him.

LOL

Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, he was, I dunno, upset that his team (the team he supported as a kid) just lost.

I'm just guessing here, maybe it's standard practice for players to smile after they lose.....

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 09:49:PM
bring on blackburn after the international break and then panathiakos and bring on chelski!!!! i dun know why you liverpoolians critisizing heskey.... im sure the pitch was slippery....

Amika
09-11-2003, 09:51:PM
well.. what can i say... a series of bad misses and some bad goalkeeper cost us again...

this is how i see it... i surely don't know why we lost this match again... we should at least got a point out of it... dudek should have save the 2nd goal...

the turning point of the game was the introduction of sinama and le tellec, it was sinama that created our 1st goal.. and we have been robbed again.. it should have been a penalty.. if you look at the replay again sinama has already taken the ball away from ferdinand and howard before being caught by ferdinand...

what can i say about heskey....:kader: how can he missed that chance to grab an equalise right at the end... :f***: and don't forget about murphy chance.. but good tackle by silverstre...

all in all we have now lost to all the top 3 teams at anfield now... the title chase is gone... our main target now is to get into CL... but i'm sure we will get the right balance sooner or later... keep the faith my fellow scousers....

Gerrard 17
09-11-2003, 09:55:PM
Originally posted by ogsimon
did you see the look on kewells face at the final whistle he looked pissed off. He had the choice of arsenal, manchester united, chelsea, liverpool, and his decision has come back to haunt him.

oh what the **** are you talking about, just shut up will ya...

i cannot ****in believe we didn't score in the last 10 minutes :kader: So many good chances, arghhh...... Emile :nape:

I didn't watch the first half, but the 2nd half seemed like we were creating all the chances in the world, while Man U created a few but capitalized on them.

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 09:56:PM
howard was lucky not to concede a second goal.... maybe barthez should have played...:crazyboy: what a match, again like last season, a thriller in the final minutes..... liverpool have got exciting youngsters, but they need the whole team to ensure a CL spot.... liverpool have yet to face man city(losing 1-0 to leicester), birmingham, newcastle and etc... so it will be a challenge for liverpool...

mhflierman
09-11-2003, 10:00:PM
Weird game in the end. I thought we owned Liverpool for most in the second half. Scoring two good goals. After that it looked like we were cruising, but because of some disputable diciscions by the -apart from that excellent- referee, the atmosphere at Anfield and the arrogance of ManUtd's players Liverpool launched a blistering attack. Scoring a good goal, and squandering at least two good opportunities, becasue ManUtd's defence suddenly seemed nowhere. So based on that Liverpool perhaps deserved a draw. But on the other hand, we controlled in the first half without being dangerous, and in the second half we scored two good goals.

Anyway good result for us, now a win over Chelsea and we have done well playing our main contenders.

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 10:01:PM
Originally posted by ogsimon
did you see the look on kewells face at the final whistle he looked pissed off. He had the choice of arsenal, manchester united, chelsea, liverpool, and his decision has come back to haunt him.

you cant blame him... he wanted to join his boyhood club... imsure tomorrow man u will get barracked by the media for their luck...

shokz
09-11-2003, 10:04:PM
That'll teach Heskey for wearing blades.

Lean
09-11-2003, 10:05:PM
Good result for Man Utd, although i think Ferdinand commited penalty on Pongolle. I think Liverpool deserved a better luck after losing those chances, although they didnt do much on the first half besides the possesion they had.

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 10:07:PM
*waiting fer arse fans to lash out the critisizing*.... :rolleyes:

soccerbest
09-11-2003, 10:12:PM
Originally posted by Fernandez
*waiting fer arse fans to lash out the critisizing*.... :rolleyes:

typical gooner, they also survive some scares as well when they play pool too earlier.

Lean
09-11-2003, 10:18:PM
I'm no gunner. I have some empathy for Liverpool, and my opinion is that the best result would be a draw, but that's my opinion, also, Pongolle was in the middle of 2 Man Utd players, he fell to the ground and both Man Utd players didnt touch the ball, you want me to think that it wasnt a penalty? Well, i wouldnt dive in that situation, because if i'm not mistaken, Howard wouldnt catch the ball if Pongolle was standing on his feet, but anyway, that's my opinion, you dont have to agree with me. Good result for Man Utd, but they still need to cheer against Chelsea today to get the 2nd spot.

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 10:20:PM
i have to agree with you... i just said what i thought the ref thought.... if we could only interview refs....:rolleyes:

Amika
09-11-2003, 10:22:PM
Originally posted by Grunger0x
I'm no gunner. I have some empathy for Liverpool, and my opinion is that the best result would be a draw, but that's my opinion, also, Pongolle was in the middle of 2 Man Utd players, he fell to the ground and both Man Utd players didnt touch the ball, you want me to think that it wasnt a penalty? Well, i wouldnt dive in that situation, because if i'm not mistaken, Howard wouldnt catch the ball if Pongolle was standing on his feet, but anyway, that's my opinion, you dont have to agree with me. Good result for Man Utd, but they still need to cheer against Chelsea today to get the 2nd spot.

rightly said.. it should have been a penalty.. but fair enough to the ref who doesn't have the replay ability that we have on tele... this kind of decision sometimes you get it and sometimes u don't...

Lean
09-11-2003, 10:23:PM
Yep. Here in Brazil we do interview them sometimes, but even when they're wrong they say that there was no mistake...:kader:
Also, i agree with Amika, although it was a penalty (at least in my opinion), people make mistakes, it's easier looking the replay 5 times and then state your opinion than looking at the play one time and make the right decision. It's almost based on pure luck, sometimes decisions doesnt go your way, but that's football..

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 10:25:PM
remember the..... ah...forget it....

i know the headline for the papers....

LUCKY UNITED ESCAPE WITH WIN...

Lean
09-11-2003, 10:28:PM
LOL. Maybe, although they were more effective when they attacked, Liverpool just made something after the 2nd goal, apart from that, they passed the ball too much, and didnt create any great chance to score.

shokz
09-11-2003, 10:28:PM
Originally posted by Grunger0x
Good result for Man Utd, although i think Ferdinand commited penalty on Pongolle.

Not enough in it to be a penalty, Pongolle lost balance, Ferdinand barely made contact.

Fernandez
09-11-2003, 10:30:PM
really? :rolleyes: im sure some will contest that assumption...

Lean
09-11-2003, 10:32:PM
Well, no use discussing it to say the least... Man Utd got away with all 3 pts, and Liverpool still struggling when they face the so called "greats", losing to Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd, all 3 at home...:f***: But i dont think he dived, maybe he lost balance, anyway, i still think it was a penalty.:crazyboy: :D

mhflierman
09-11-2003, 10:48:PM
I believe Liverpool were on the better end of the referee's discisions. First half he did really well, not to throw around with cards, but in the second half I felt that ManUtd was denied a free kick at times. Diouf was lucky to get away without a red card. He was immidiately substituted after that as well.

About the penalty, good disiscion by the referee. Ferdinand din't play the ball I'll give you that, but neither did he bring down the player. There really wasn't enough contact for that. A penalty desiscion would have been really harsh. It's just unfortunate that Heskey slipped away when he couldn't miss, and that Murphy squandered a great opportunity when he just had to make contact.

Lean
09-11-2003, 10:55:PM
Originally posted by mhflierman
Diouf was lucky to get away without a red card.

I definitely agree with that though.

shokz
09-11-2003, 10:57:PM
Gol! - Rightclick SaveAs (http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pool-utd.zip) :ewan: time for a kip.

gbfootball
09-11-2003, 11:59:PM
Originally posted by mhflierman
Diouf was lucky to get away without a red card.

Football is becoming so bloody poncy! It seems you are not allowed to tackle people making contact with them at the same time! What the hell are shinpads made for!? The rules are becoming far too lady-like and, don't take offence to this, it's all because of girly continental european players who can't take anything physical.

Help?
10-11-2003, 12:02:AM
Originally posted by shokz
For anyone looking for a good laugh.

Forlan! - Ouch. :S (http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/forlan.zip)

:evil:

Some good football from United, great play from O'Shea, Forlan, Fortune.
Hey, i can't get that link work. Can you make another one?

Larry
10-11-2003, 12:11:AM
Its times like these i love Heskey not being in my team :). Forlan is better, but what a goal by Kewell. Good Giggs goals, and a very fine match.

How was that not a penalty :o

Lean
10-11-2003, 12:19:AM
For me it was a penalty. And about the guy complaining about the lady-like rules, did you see the foul Diouf made after his first yellow card? He could injury the other player seriously.

Help?
10-11-2003, 12:19:AM
Good game in the end. I had a feeling that United will get this one 2-1 just like last season, before the half-time break. I was calm watching the game, but after Kewell scored, my heart nearly popped-out wathing those 17 minutes. And when Heskey had that chance i nearly fell of my sofa and in the end i did, but that was from laughing at his miss. The lone Liverpool striker for the game and has only one shot of targt and even that shot was soooo ugly! Look at Howard's face after the miss, he couldn't believe it himself, he looked like someone that got soooo much trouble and got out of it very nicely. Bring on Chelsea now!
How can anyone say that HEskey is like Forlan? Forlan is WAY better.



BTW i still can't stop laughing at Kewell. lol he said "i choose Liverpool, because they are the rising team and will have the best chance to win the EPL in the upcoming season, especially with me" lol And now he lost to all 3 clubs interested in him. I enjoyed the face too and he should have came to United, because he would have been a starter there for sure. But i admit that after the game it wasn't the face that he picked the wrong club, he was just too frustrated at a loss to his main rivals for life (at Leeds and Liverpool) and of corse at his supper striker Heskey.

shokz
10-11-2003, 12:27:AM
Originally posted by Help?
Hey, i can't get that link work. Can you make another one?

I took it down and put the Forlan tumble in the goal clip.

http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pool-utd.zip

::Jason::
10-11-2003, 12:36:AM
Thank you shokz, for providing us the goals once again!

m3th0d
10-11-2003, 01:23:AM
giggs is the MAN! great goals!!! :p

shokz
10-11-2003, 01:31:AM
Sat 22 Nov 2003
12:30
FA Premier League
Blackburn Rovers - We must take advantage of Souness being the lowest he has been in his managerial career


Wed 26 Nov 2003
19:45
UEFA Champions League
Panathinaikos (First Group Phase, Group E) - TOUGH - Going to Greece will not be a walk in the park


Sun 30 Nov 2003
16:05
FA Premier League
Chelsea - This will be our biggest and hardest test yet

AberdeenFC
10-11-2003, 01:47:AM
crap performance from an under strength liverpool team, we deserved to lose. we played terrible until Sinama Pongolle came on and brought some life into the game. heskey is a fudd i cant believe he earns so much money for being a striker but cant put chances like that last one away. we deseratly need Hyypia and Henchoz back to their best, Hamman to cover Gerrard and Owen's goals!! until then >> :( what a shiit day

gbfootball
10-11-2003, 01:50:AM
Originally posted by Grunger0x
For me it was a penalty. And about the guy complaining about the lady-like rules, did you see the foul Diouf made after his first yellow card? He could injury the other player seriously.

What did he do? Seriously, what the hell did he do? He stretched for the ball and O'Shea got a kick in the shins. I don't see a problem with that one bit.

Help?
10-11-2003, 02:09:AM
Originally posted by gbfootball
What did he do? Seriously, what the hell did he do? He stretched for the ball and O'Shea got a kick in the shins. I don't see a problem with that one bit.
You are not allowed to stretch with a straight leg in 50-50 ball situation, in order to avoid making an injury to the opposing player and that's what Diouf almost did. If he would have stretched for the ball with his toe and not his cleets, nothing would have been called. But straight leg in 50-50 is a yellow card. The ref didn't give it, because DIouf already got 1 and didn't deserve a red.

gbfootball
10-11-2003, 02:15:AM
That's completely my point. A foul was given because of the way the rules are. I am saying that the rules are being changed to take all physical contact out of football and it's really lame! It's a sport, and the way things are going, I don't believe we will be able to call footballers athletes in 10 years because they will be too bloody protected! They're athletes, they're paid ****loads of money, they should just take it. Due to all of the diving poofy continental players that whine every time anyone touches them, however, the rules are changing to stop all contact.

Jedi Mind Trick
10-11-2003, 02:18:AM
thanks shokz.

and those white kits aren't that bad when on tv. kinda horrible in person, but they didn't look too bad. i've always like united's previous white kits.

anyways, ryan giggs, rock on.

manufan
10-11-2003, 03:05:AM
Man Utd deserved this win through and through. We stuck in there, defended and defended and defended. We kinda lost our cool at the end, but that's likely to happen with someone with immense skill like Pongolle.

And I cant believe people actually think it was a penalty.:o Poll is a god for not giving that because other refs would've been caught up in the moment and give it. But each time the penalty replay was shown, ferdinand made NO contact at ALL. Pongolle pushed the ball past the keeper and lost his footing. I cant believe people are actually dumb enough to think it's a penalty.:rolleyes: Go hide in a corner in shame...

Fernandez
10-11-2003, 03:22:AM
heh, like last season.... this was a bloody encounter.... ask g.neville or john o'shea...:crazyboy:

Help?
10-11-2003, 05:58:AM
Originally posted by manufan
Man Utd deserved this win through and through. We stuck in there, defended and defended and defended. We kinda lost our cool at the end, but that's likely to happen with someone with immense skill like Pongolle.

And I cant believe people actually think it was a penalty.:o Poll is a god for not giving that because other refs would've been caught up in the moment and give it. But each time the penalty replay was shown, ferdinand made NO contact at ALL. Pongolle pushed the ball past the keeper and lost his footing. I cant believe people are actually dumb enough to think it's a penalty.:rolleyes: Go hide in a corner in shame...
lol calm down,man. No need to come that hard on them;) . I will just wait till Monday until FSW Canada starts and listen to what Bobby has to say on it, after that i will have my opinion, because Bobby is god in those analysis.

John_Arne_Riise
10-11-2003, 06:24:AM
I dont think any team deserved to win this game, a draw would of been a fair result, but try telling the ******* mancs that. They won anyway, and thats what matters. Its easy to be critical of players like Dudek and Heskey, but you win as a team, and you lose as a team.

Pretty contradictive statement since i cant stand having a player like Heskey in the team when he misses guilt-edge chances like he did. It was no penalty regarding Pongolle either, there was some body contact, but Ferdinand did not trip him.

I still think we should of at least drawn the game.

VanTheMan
10-11-2003, 06:31:AM
united deserved it man!!!!!
great 3 points.
now it's liv 0 -3 chelsi,arsenal,man u

RUSI
10-11-2003, 06:36:AM
Crap

Nice game from Giggs

Liverpool should have ewon

Penalty + Heskey = 3-2 Liverpool

John_Arne_Riise
10-11-2003, 07:08:AM
Originally posted by VanTheMan
united deserved it man!!!!!
great 3 points.
now it's liv 0 -3 chelsi,arsenal,man u

How did they deserve it? They were camped inside their own half for at least 75% of the first half, for memory they didnt even get a shot on goal.

Just a lapse in concentration it would seem for about 15 minutes cost us 2 goals. But seriously, Liverpool were probably the better team on the night, Man Utd just defended very well.

Fernandez
10-11-2003, 07:34:AM
a clean sheet for us would guarentee victory but i wonder why fergie didnt play djemba-djemba..... he is good in stopping through balls and creating em.... fortune has made his 10th epl appearance for the club...

mufc_daddy
10-11-2003, 08:00:AM
I got the score right, but not the scorers. The 3 points is all that matters.


Pools title chances are over for another season.

ManU2000
10-11-2003, 11:09:AM
Originally posted by mufc_daddy
I got the score right, but not the scorers. The 3 points is all that matters.

Pools title chances are over for another season.

Same here. Good result against a tough rival. I honestly thought that Liverpool played better but were just unlucky. I nearly had a heart attack when Howard gave the ball away Barthez-style and when Heskey slipped and missed that shot (I laughed shortly afterwards :D ). What a great game from our Welsh Wizard who came up huge today. Good job on his part. About the non-penalty call, that really could have gone either way to be honest. There was contact but not enough to warrant a penalty in favor of Liverpool. Graham Poll did a good job of officiating today. For Liverpool, I really think that they have a slight possibility of obtaining a CL spot but for their title chances, I think its over for this season.

Jedi Mind Trick
10-11-2003, 11:12:AM
dude, charles woodson is my main man. that has to be the best sig i've seen yet.

*remembers the one handed grab on the sideline against michigan state...*

what's happened to the raiders?

*slaps forehead*

ManU2000
10-11-2003, 11:17:AM
Originally posted by Jedi Mind Trick
dude, charles woodson is my main man. that has to be the best sig i've seen yet.

*remembers the one handed grab on the sideline against michigan state...*

what's happened to the raiders?

*slaps forehead*

Thanks man. Yeah, Woodson rules. About the Raiders, well.......(:/)

Old age, injuries, and just plain out sucking have been our problem this season. I was in Mexico during the game today but I listened in to the radio. When I checked in, they were winning 21-10 so was excited thinking that we were finally going to win a game. Tune in at around 5 later on to find out they blew the lead and lost in OT. :( From being in the Super Bowl to being one of the worst teams in only a matter of months. :(

Jedi Mind Trick
10-11-2003, 11:19:AM
no kidding.

eddy_87
10-11-2003, 11:26:AM
Liverpool do not deserve the loss......
but as usual, better team wins....;)
i don't know why fergie play defensive style, can't see any atacking by ManUtd in the 1st half....
Heskey should burried that chance but as usual, stupid player is always stupid....:evil:
about sinama pongolle, i know when he come in, there is danger for opposition team and chance to get penalty too....:confused:
luckily the refree is kinda stupid not to give that a penalty....(it won't be in too if heskey took it :rolleyes: )

so...as usual, ManUtd rulezz:rockman: :evil:

soccerbest
10-11-2003, 12:08:PM
and we showed real heart and passion to win today, keane was immense IMO, also i felt forlan was pretty good, Giggs might have a hat-trick after Dudek fumble clearence but respect to silvester an immense performance, and that tackle on murphy near the end. Absolutley brilliant. :rockman:

eddy_87
10-11-2003, 12:20:PM
hope ronaldo starts in the next game agains Blackburn....(:/)
i dun like ManUtd playing defensive...we want action....:hump:

man united forever
10-11-2003, 01:11:PM
I was extremely frustrated with the United performance in the first half. We sat back way too much, and had nine men behind the ball with just RvN up front waiting for long balls, which Hyypia easily beat him to every time. Liverpool were the more purposeful side in the first half, but sterling defending from the back four and the holding midfielders kept the goal threat to a minimum.

The second half was a different story. United came out more positive and with energy to burn. Dudek was almost made to pay for a poor clearance, but did well to stop Giggs's shot from going in. However, he couldn't do much about Giggsy's next two efforts, and United were in front, having played the better football in the second period. Kewell was at that stage the only player causing us problems, and it was only fitting that he was on the end of a cross by the equally impressive Pongolle, who had come on to great effect in the dying stages. Pongolle almost won a penalty for Liverpool, but I feel the ref gave the correct decision by not awarding it. Ferdinand did stretch for the ball and perhaps just got a touch on it. It was too iffy to give either way really, so he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

At the end of the day, the marginally better team won. We took advantage of our chances while Liverpool didn't, and they paid dearly for it. Silvestre, Ferdinand, Gary Neville and John O'Shea were all fantastic and gave very little away. It wasn't the sort of performance one normally associates with Manchester United, but it was effective.

soccerbest
10-11-2003, 02:21:PM
Why Ronaldo didn't play, instead Fortune play on the left and Giggs on the right. Guess Fergie is protecting him from burn-out. ;)

Fernandez
10-11-2003, 02:21:PM
dudek could have done something about giggs second goal....

eddy_87
10-11-2003, 03:48:PM
Originally posted by Fernandez
dudek could have done something about giggs second goal....

nah...he's a ManU wannabe.....:evil:

ryan_goal
10-11-2003, 04:22:PM
after this match, i decided to do one thing: buy a manutd shirt with Dudek's name on the back as a tribute to this great man.

Fernandez
10-11-2003, 05:15:PM
200th post of this thread.... think its not a good idea... the salesperson might think that we are dumb... and he should wear number 7... :crazyboy:

J-L
10-11-2003, 05:48:PM
anyway i thought liverpool were gonna win with so many chances on goal!! but if was not to be:f***:

monkee
10-11-2003, 06:05:PM
It was a worrying first 15mins as Liverpool came out of the blocks quickly but could not turn their posession advantage into shots let alone goals. After that United started getting into the game and it was pretty even until the half with the only shot of the first 45mins coming from Kewell which went over the bar.

After half-time both teams started where they left off, although the game seemed more open. Kewell had a good shot which was well saved by Howard and United started to look threatening.

Then came the goals. First was Giggsy's cross which was awkward one for Dudek to deal with. Liverpool found themselves thin at the back with only one defender challenging for the ball in the air (I can't remember if it was Hyypia or Biscan but I can't remember Biscan doing a thing all match). The cross came in at an angle where it would go in at the far post if Dudek wasn't alert and was made difficult to deal with beacuse it was at a height where either Ruud or Diego could get a touch and put it in near post. Dudek was in no-mans land as the presence of the United attackers did enough to cause his indecision.

Giggsy's second came from some good work down United's left flank with O'Shea delivering a dangerous cross which just alluded Van Nistelrooy's outstreched boot. It fell nicely for Giggs leaving him with time and space to set himself up and shoot, which he did from an acute angle which Dudek should probably have done better on.

After United's 2nd it seemed to me that they thought 'job-done' and therefore Liverpool started to get some space. Sinama-Pongolle looked useful after his introduction for the conker-head and it was his telling cross which fell nicely for Kewell to side foot home that gave Liverpool a glimmer of hope of getting something out of a game. It was fitting that Kewell should score the goal as he was the only player in the Liverpool team that looked threatening.

For a few minutes after the goal it looked likely that Liverpool would get their equaliser. Sinama went down in the area under pressure from Rio to cries of a penalty and had it been against United I'd have felt it should have been. Replays showed that whilst Rio didn't get the ball neither did he make contact with Sinama, it's one of those decisions that could have gone either way.

Imo, had Poll given the penalty then Diouf should have been sent off earlier in the game. He was fortunate to stay on as he left his studs showing in a challenge with O'Shea after being booked only moments earlier. Had he not been on a yellow then I don't doubt that he would have have been booked for that challenge, as it was Poll was in a lenient mood. So the decisions evened themselves out and much to my surprise I felt Poll actually refereed well.

Silvestre's tackle on Murphy to deny him a shot in the last 5mins was one of the best of the season as well.

Liverpools momentum died off with a few minutes left (after the introduction of Fletcher it seemed) until the last moments when Heskey contrived to pull off a spectacular miss from the easiest of opportunities by fluffing it wide with such velocity that Ruud could have got back and cleared it had it been on target.

Overall it was a hard earned 3pts. Liverpool probably deserved a point from the game but I'm glad that they didn't and United came away with the spoils.

Fernandez
10-11-2003, 06:12:PM
remember giggs long-range effort before his goal.... almost a disaster for dudek...

monkee
10-11-2003, 06:23:PM
Yup. It could've easily been a hat-trick yesterday for Giggs and that shot that you refer to there Fernandez was a very well taken volley. Luckily Dudek managed to get a hand to the ball otherwise it would have been very embarrassing for him.

Was it just me or could I hear the United fans singing louder than the scousers up until Kewell's goal?

Fernandez
10-11-2003, 06:29:PM
ryan giggso, ooooooo, ryan giggso, oooooooo, he waaasss not a buy, he made the scousers cry.... just a little chant i edited...

soccerbest
10-11-2003, 07:03:PM
http://www.football365shop.com/store/thumbNail.asp?size=200&image=/store/catalog/EMS_detail.gif

:crazyboy:

Fernandez
10-11-2003, 07:07:PM
watched the replay, ferdinand didnt made contact with sinama, sinama lost his balance....

AberdeenFC
10-11-2003, 08:09:PM
Originally posted by ryan_goal
after this match, i decided to do one thing: buy a manutd shirt with Dudek's name on the back as a tribute to this great man.

hahahaha :p

Originally posted by soccerbest
http://www.football365shop.com/store/thumbNail.asp?size=200&image=/store/catalog/EMS_detail.gif

:crazyboy:

hahahaha!! :D

i have gained respect for man utd fans (H)

RUSI
11-11-2003, 12:28:AM
i thought it wasnt at first
then i saw his hand pushig him in the back

take another look;)

manutd4eva
11-11-2003, 12:55:AM
Originally posted by soccerbest
http://www.football365shop.com/store/thumbNail.asp?size=200&image=/store/catalog/EMS_detail.gif

:crazyboy:

Lmao class!!!:rockman:

I think Pongolle needs one too(H)

shokz
11-11-2003, 05:29:AM
Originally posted by monkee
It was a worrying first 15mins as Liverpool came out of the blocks quickly but could not turn their posession advantage into shots let alone goals. After that United started getting into the game and it was pretty even until the half with the only shot of the first 45mins coming from Kewell which went over the bar.

After half-time both teams started where they left off, although the game seemed more open. Kewell had a good shot which was well saved by Howard and United started to look threatening.

Then came the goals. First was Giggsy's cross which was awkward one for Dudek to deal with. Liverpool found themselves thin at the back with only one defender challenging for the ball in the air (I can't remember if it was Hyypia or Biscan but I can't remember Biscan doing a thing all match). The cross came in at an angle where it would go in at the far post if Dudek wasn't alert and was made difficult to deal with beacuse it was at a height where either Ruud or Diego could get a touch and put it in near post. Dudek was in no-mans land as the presence of the United attackers did enough to cause his indecision.

Giggsy's second came from some good work down United's left flank with O'Shea delivering a dangerous cross which just alluded Van Nistelrooy's outstreched boot. It fell nicely for Giggs leaving him with time and space to set himself up and shoot, which he did from an acute angle which Dudek should probably have done better on.

After United's 2nd it seemed to me that they thought 'job-done' and therefore Liverpool started to get some space. Sinama-Pongolle looked useful after his introduction for the conker-head and it was his telling cross which fell nicely for Kewell to side foot home that gave Liverpool a glimmer of hope of getting something out of a game. It was fitting that Kewell should score the goal as he was the only player in the Liverpool team that looked threatening.

For a few minutes after the goal it looked likely that Liverpool would get their equaliser. Sinama went down in the area under pressure from Rio to cries of a penalty and had it been against United I'd have felt it should have been. Replays showed that whilst Rio didn't get the ball neither did he make contact with Sinama, it's one of those decisions that could have gone either way.

Imo, had Poll given the penalty then Diouf should have been sent off earlier in the game. He was fortunate to stay on as he left his studs showing in a challenge with O'Shea after being booked only moments earlier. Had he not been on a yellow then I don't doubt that he would have have been booked for that challenge, as it was Poll was in a lenient mood. So the decisions evened themselves out and much to my surprise I felt Poll actually refereed well.

Silvestre's tackle on Murphy to deny him a shot in the last 5mins was one of the best of the season as well.

Liverpools momentum died off with a few minutes left (after the introduction of Fletcher it seemed) until the last moments when Heskey contrived to pull off a spectacular miss from the easiest of opportunities by fluffing it wide with such velocity that Ruud could have got back and cleared it had it been on target.

Overall it was a hard earned 3pts. Liverpool probably deserved a point from the game but I'm glad that they didn't and United came away with the spoils.

Monkee, you never fail!

Great read that was, although I should let you know, that it was Forlan who made the cross for the 2nd goal mate. :)

Check - http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pool-utd.zip :ewan:

Fernandez
11-11-2003, 05:30:AM
ferdinand made the slightest of contacts.... good call by ref.... unlucky sinama... :evil:

shokz
11-11-2003, 05:33:AM
After watching closer at Ferdinand, he DID push him - I apologies for not see'ing it earlier, as I was always looking closer at the feet, whereas there were not enough if any to bring down Pongolle, but if you look at Ferdinand's hand, definete push in the back. :kader:

Should've been a penalty - need I say more.

Ferdinand could've been sent off, and we could've been held level.

That cost Liverpool atleast a point.

manutd4eva
11-11-2003, 05:36:AM
Originally posted by shokz
That cost Liverpool atleast a point.

Well thank god it did.:rockman:j/k

shokz
11-11-2003, 05:55:AM
I agree. :evil:

Job well done Ferdinand (Y)

Evidence :evil:

http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/push.gif

http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/slip.gif

:funny::funny::funny:

ManU2000
11-11-2003, 05:58:AM
Hehe, you just have to love that second replay. :crazyboy: (H)

PaPaGeorGeo
11-11-2003, 05:58:AM
Heskey is a donkey that cant kick

manutd4eva
11-11-2003, 06:03:AM
damn i loved that second one.......what a useless piece of sh*t heskey is.....he should play as a defender cuz he looks more comfortable clearing balls(no pun intended) out of the area.

ManU2000
11-11-2003, 09:23:AM
From the Manchester United Site:

http://www.manutd.com/pix/players/homepage/harrys_comment.gif

:evil: :evil:

Jedi Mind Trick
11-11-2003, 09:24:AM
haha...

Help?
11-11-2003, 09:29:AM
haha! That's a great picture of Giggs in the back round, he kind of looks as happy as me, after the Liverpool game. Looks like he is laughing into Kewell and what he says, while Kewell takes it. Great picture. And Giggs looks so frigin young in it, i would say he is like 22-23 years old in that picture.



Anyways, just saw what Bobby from FSW had to say about the penalty incident and because he is almost always right and that was proven before many man times, especially when he said that Juventus might just skip past Madrid before the CL Semis 2nd leg. So, he said that the referee got it just right this time and i will go with him.

soccerbest
11-11-2003, 11:21:AM
Originally posted by shokz
I agree. :evil:

Job well done Ferdinand (Y)

Evidence :evil:

http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/push.gif

http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/slip.gif

:funny::funny::funny:

Great pic, can you made the united goals too as well.

Fernandez
11-11-2003, 11:31:AM
giggs scored 5 goals already.... almost better than last season... his crosses are superb and im sure he has many assists to his name already... heskey should go on loan... :evil:

Jedi Mind Trick
11-11-2003, 11:33:AM
yup.

and this year, he gets his share of the free kicks, unlike in previous seasons. he should be able to see his goal or assist totals rise.

Fernandez
11-11-2003, 12:04:PM
it seems ronaldo takes the fks on the lefts and giggs on the right...seems fair...

::Jason::
11-11-2003, 12:11:PM
once again shokz provides us some great multimedia! :)

damn we were lucky to clinch this one..

man united forever
11-11-2003, 12:48:PM
Originally posted by monkee
Was it just me or could I hear the United fans singing louder than the scousers up until Kewell's goal?
Yeah I thought I noticed that too. Ironic really, especially when you take into account that thread ewan made on Liverpool's 'virtues'.:evil:

monkee
11-11-2003, 04:19:PM
The first vid there shokz it appears to me that Sinama went down even more easily than I thought at the time. It's hard to tell if Rio was using his arm for location/balance or to give Sinama a little push at that speed, but judging from the speed of the play I'd guess that it was the former rather than the latter.

I was writing from memory and I think in my excitement at 2-0 I forgot who'd crossed for Giggs' 2nd.

A question/request for you though shokz, but it's only good if you still have the game on your computer. Around 20-25mins into the game when the ball went into the stand a tubby scouser went to catch it. In doing so he lost his balance and fell about 6 steps down taking a few other scousers with him. Any chance of seeing a clip of it if you have it? That was one of the funniest incidents in the game.

soccerbest
11-11-2003, 05:01:PM
Originally posted by monkee
I was writing from memory and I think in my excitement at 2-0 I forgot who'd crossed for Giggs' 2nd.


It was forlan. ;)

shokz
12-11-2003, 04:52:PM
http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/scouser.gif

:funny: watch it when that scouser tries to catch the ball, he stacks it and rolls on his fellow supporters :funny:

http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kewell.gif :mrpimp:

Fernandez
12-11-2003, 05:10:PM
poor guy kewell... but its his fault.... :evil:

eddy_87
12-11-2003, 05:22:PM
Originally posted by shokz
http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/scouser.gif

watch it when that scouser tries to catch the ball, he stacks it and rolls on his fellow supporters :funny:

http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kewell.gif

:funny::funpost::funny:

kewell looks like gonna cry.....:funny:

Fernandez
13-11-2003, 07:18:AM
liverpool must be wondering if heskey can score the equaliser like this.... this is an interesting result as arsenal are unbeaten.... tada... the scoring heskey....

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/131103-heskey...jpg

soccerbest
13-11-2003, 11:59:AM
Originally posted by shokz
http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/slip.gif

:funny::funny::funny:

:funpost: :funny: :funny:

rumanu?
13-11-2003, 12:08:PM
lol at harry:funny:

and the quote from manutd.com

he always scores against united though:(