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ZZUB
16-11-1999, 07:26:PM
Overall I like the game, at professional level its an excellent game. At this level it feels like a football game, its almost complete in that respect. Players can slow the game down and play keep ball or they can play direct and fast. No other game comes close to this aspect.
There are a couple of disappointments for me. The world class level again reverts to high speed button thrashing. Some of the tactical options are missing, the ability to position players individually and set their attacking and aggression bias for example.
I would prefer a larger pitch or even to have variable size pitches as in real life.
Also it would be better to have a wider points range in the player attributes. I have played as New Zealand and beaten Italy 5-1 which is totally unrealistic and I think that may be partly due to the spread of values of player attributes not showing an appreciable difference between top sides and minnows.
Mostly these things are easily fixed, hopefully EAsports will improve them next time out. However overall I really enjoy the game, its now my favourite game to play on the playstation,its just frustrating that EA are so close to the perfect football game but are not quite there.
Mike

bdincer
16-11-1999, 07:55:PM
What I like:
Shielding logic.
Consequtive season play
Game is more playable on world class mode then fifa99
Long distance goals(not enough)

What i do not like:

Still to many tackles not enough fouls i don't understand why this is to hard to implement for EA.

Game is too fast.
Very easy to soccer inside the box.
360 spin (when did you see this move in real life worked so well)
Goal keepers do not challange corner kicks.
Finally I feel like EA does not spend the same energy developing this game that they do on madden and nba live.

i think Fifa series was improving very well over the years until this year, This year they removed a lot of features people liked and they did not improve enough for this year.

LoLJester
17-11-1999, 06:20:AM
I have been reading this forum's messages for quite a while now without ever posting a message myself. But I just feel like I have to do it now because it looks like there are more people with negative comments about FIFA 2000 than with good ones. Or is it because people who like FIFA actually play it and the others, with bad opinions, just have too much free time on their hands and spend it in this forum trashing an almost perfect game?
Well, that's what I want to find out. If you like FIFA 2000 post a message and say why you like it or vice versa.
I'll get you started:
I've got to start by saying that I love FIFA 2000, almost all the aspects of this game, but there are just a few glitches that EA should fix, here I go:

1. Linesmen, Pleeaaaase!!!!(What's so hard, I mean, the AI for the actual referee is much harder to program for than that of the linesmen. Hint: bring back the picture in picture feature from FIFA'97).
2. Please include national squads in that one comprehensive Season schedule. I would like to play with my fav. team and country during the same season. Let the users decide whether the computer should pick the best players from the league in question, or let the user select his/her own players to play for their national squad.
3. Let the player's attributes (along with their salary cap) increase or decrease as the Season goes along (Players can be hot or cold).
4. Let the users, who actually do not have their league included in the game, play more than one Season in the Custom League. Have the same all-in-one type of schedule included here also.

Well, that's it. Except these minuscule problems, Fifa 2000 is as close to be a perfect game as it can get (considering the today's economy and technology).
See, ya!!!

partizan-bg
17-11-1999, 06:35:AM
AI of computer players is good, but AI of your players is bad.
and of course: bigger pitch and game must be slower.

LoLJester
17-11-1999, 10:25:PM
I can't believe this!!! 3 people actually like FIFA 2000?

What happened with the rest of you ? How many users are signed up for this forum, a thousand, 5 thousand? Wow, and I mean Wow. Isn't it true that FIFA series is the best selling game on this planet? And in spite of this, still only a few people like it, and the others (who don't like it) still buy it?

I really am shocked. If you don't like FIFA 2000 why do people buy it? Why aren't there any other soccer games, that you praise so much, on top of your list?

I don't know how EA does it, but I really do admire their tactics in convincing so many people into buying their product despite the fact that they are daily bombed with complaints about the game (Is Bill Gates their CEO, or something? Anyone?).

I've got to tell you, that the reason why Konamy, Actua, Microsoft, and others, will never knock FIFA down, is because they don't sell as many copies of their game as EA does; therefore, these afore mentionen companies will never be able to outbid EA Sports for the FIFA license.

Just to make matters worse, I have a bit of INFO on FIFA 2001: there will not be bigger pitches!!!(at least not for PSX and PC. I don't know about PSX2)

A friend of mine, and some people from his class, who are working on their Phd in Computing Science, will receive the AI that was programed for FIFA2k, and will have to improve on the AI. And I mean improve on it and not reprogram it. So you know what this means? The same pitch limits used in FIFA 2000 will be used in FIFA 2001. To use a bigger pitch you have to reprogram the AI for the players from scratch.

Well, we'll wait and see since they will only get their hands on the game next semester.

PS: I actually am one of those people who bought the game because I liked it. And I don't really care how big the pitch is. I think that the FIFA 2k's pitch size is alright and if you want improvement to the FIFA series, stop posting messages about whose League is worse or who's the best player, etc.

I just had to blow off some steam.
Cheers!!!

hjhahm
18-11-1999, 12:26:AM
Come on...get real....
You think Fifa2k is the best soccer game?
Well, maybe....since there's no other soccer games to compete with.....
Yes, I am a big fan of EA fifa soccer seriese.....But, for the first time, I was very very very disappointed when I bought it.
I was expecting a little bit better than the previous one, Fifa99. When I installed it and played, I was shocked......
What I saw were unrealistic fields, too skinny players.......
Damn! I said.....
Even worse, the commentators.....ooohh....
Are you kidding me? Do they know what they are talking about....please...give me a break......this is soccer.....This is not something Amreicans know about!!!!!
I'd say Fiafa 99 was a whole lot better than this.
I have Fifa 96, 97, 98, WC98, and 99.....
Fifa 2k is a total disaster!!!!

Of course, I had to returned it.....
It's not worth the money.....

PolishPower
18-11-1999, 06:31:AM
To Jester: Maybe people write about other topics because complaining about the bad parts in FIFA 2000 is A. worthless as EA won't listen anyway, and B. Depressing, because how long can you talk about the stuff that is bad about this game before you feel depressed that EA didn't do a better job? not very long...

I do agree with you about the pitch size it does not bother me at all, there are many things which should be improved which are more important, like the AI you mentioned...

GEORGE
19-11-1999, 09:24:AM
I like the game but i don`t play it until ea makes a patch to fix the damn jerking gameplay.

belly
19-11-1999, 11:18:AM
Where fifa 99 rocks, fifa 2k sucks!!
sure, better replays, shielding options, multi-season play are all great additions, but they could (and should) have been added by means of a add-on product available at half the price of fifa 2k.

I read this forum before buying the game and couldn't imagine EA letting me down. they have never done that before. Me being a graphics freak however, I was shocked to see what EA has dared to put out on the market.

I expected NBA, Madden or NHL 2k-like player modelling, but got what is probably almost equal to Euro 96. Near the new millennium, EA not only gives you the opportunity to play classic teams, but with classic graphical detail too. It' s just plain ugly compared to fifa 99 (let alone the games I just mentioned)

Wanna bet that fifa 2001 will improve on the games graphics, leave pitch size and game speed equal, and screw up again in one part just not vital enough to destroy the game, but annoying enough to be able to sell fifa 2002 the year after.

Unfortunately, EA has no interest whatsoever to get it right, to make the perfect game. They are market leader and a perfect game will be to hard to improve enough on to justifie a yearly release. We're all being sucked down into this marketing trick and take hook, line and sinker.

OK, so we're stupid to still be buying. I know I'm already looking forward to fifa 2001 and will certainly purchase it if it improves on fifa 99.

EA, congratulations for making your customers addicted to your product. Just stop exploiting them by delivering products that are beneath the standards you have set yourselves. You know we have little alternative now, but who knows in the future. When a comparative game comes out I will surely dump EA.

alfiee
19-11-1999, 11:20:AM
absoulutely great comments, belly. you've hit the nail on the head.

Puskas
19-11-1999, 02:30:PM
Unfortunately, the lack of NHL2000 style
player modelling is a stupid copyright
issue with FIFA. I really hate when they screw around with copyrights this way...
Who benefits from it???? http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/frown.gif

PolishPower
20-11-1999, 05:12:AM
I didnt feel that way at all, I bought FIFA series since 97 edition and thought each year there was a marked improvement. Yes there are parts in this game that are a real improvement for example the percentage of shots that go wide of the net is much more realistic.
However other parts that have little do do with state of the art of programming are missing and thats why I find this game so exasperating. I'm talking here about being limited to controlling one team in the league play while before you could control up to 8(psx version), the reduced rosters with many missing players. Only 2 reserve players make it hard to keep up with the transfers as a team can't go below 16 players. Inability to control the 2nd division teams(and this was given big pre-release publicity on the web pages) well if you thought you were going to be able to play Napoli or Blackburn, the joke is on you...

LoLJester
20-11-1999, 06:08:AM
I am with you guys, I really am. I understand that the game could have been better in certain areas. I do want some improvments in FIFA 2001 myself (which I already posted at the top) but I still believe that a company cannot satisfy everyone's wishes. Look how many improvements are there in FIFA 2000: crowd movement(everybody wanted this, didn't you?), then better replays, better nets, better ball physics, multiple seasons, more injuries, more penalties, more fouls against the computer, and so on. (Just as a side-note, Weren't there better soccer games before the first FIFA game came-out? Yet, we find ourselves in a FIFA 2000 forum discussing an EA product, isn't that weird?)

Back to FIFA 2000. I do some programing myself and I know how hard it is to program and in some way I uderstand how EA feels. But before you start saying, Well why do they have to release a new game every year?, let me tell you that EA doesn't consist of only one franchise, but many others (that's why they are so popular)and to remain strong in all areas, they have to share the money they earn on the FIFA products (since they make the most money), with all of their other franchises.

I know, or at least I think, they are trying hard to bring out a better game every year, and I have not been dissapointed with their effort, yet. And beleive me that I was there, on the FIFA 99 forum, when last year's installment came out. And didn't you guys say that FIFA 99 was horrible and that FIFA 98 was better? And then, when FIFA 98 came out, you guys said the same thing, didn't you?

Well, I could be talking for hours, but I have to go.

LoLJester
22-11-1999, 09:53:PM
To Polish Power: I totally agree with you.

You are right that some things (like the ones you mentioned) just don't make sense in not being included in the game. But I believe there is an explanation:

I believe that you have written an essay sometime in your life and you know that, even after you proof read it, you still find some words or sentences that you could change to better ones. Let's say you proof read it with someone else; even that person will find some mistakes; furthermore, you hand it in and when you get it back (believing that you did the best you could, within the ammount of time given to you) what do you find?; well, the instructor finds other mistakes in your work that you were not aware of.

So, I guess my point is that you cannot satisfy everybody. Given the amount of time that you had to finish your work, you can only hope that you have done the best you could and tried to make as litle errors as you possibly could.

That's all folks!!!

LFC Fowler Owen England
22-11-1999, 10:18:PM
I totaly agree with you LOL Jester eveything you said was right you took the words right out of my mouth.... Thanks http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

PolishPower
23-11-1999, 06:17:AM
The problem with your analogy that not everyone can be satisfied is that almost everyone is upset at some features in this game, features which were in FIFA 99 but now are gone.

It would be all well and nice to excuse them for saying they didnt have enough time to do all these things. Well I don't buy it, if they had no time to finish why didnt they delay release to December? FIFA 99 was released in December so what was the reason for this rush job to get the game in stores by september.

You do a crappy job in your school report, you get a crappy grade, true or false?

FIFAfreak
23-11-1999, 08:43:AM
I have to say I was also a little disappointed with FIFA 2K (U.S. Version) despite some of the new features and adjustments. The 99 version was something to build on as they did from the World Cup 98 game, not scrap and start over... so here's my good and bad, I'm sure many others agree...

Music & Opening Animation: I have to say this was a big let down compared with what EA has done on other titles. The music is LAME and annoying at times, all of it. 99 captured the excitement of club soccer with Fatboy Slim and the real video clips of game footage and fans. This I could relate to after traveling to England a few times and seeing Premiership matches in London. Instead of putting a good soundtrack on there EA grabs the latest trendy crap. Robbie Williams? Give me a break.

Interface & Graphics: Not too bad but not great, kinda vanilla really with all that white. Personally I liked 99 where the country flag appears for the league and the teams colors appear when you scroll through them. Maybe the club crests could eventually be used but that would involve too much legal permission I suspect.

Leagues & Teams: Everything is great but I could do without the Turkish, Greek or Israeli leagues. The better teams from those leagues should be in the Rest of Europe section as in 99. If you want to play a whole season of Turkish football then do it in the custom mode and create the remaining teams. Heck I created the MLS in 99 with a couple extra expansion teams (it's fun putting the kits in!) Is the Portuguese league not more prominent? And what about South America, 8 Brazilian teams is the best they can do? Argentina, Mexico or Chile, where are they? As an American fan the MLS is welcome but DUH you can't even play a season with them unless you do it custom mode...even then you can't have 2 divisions that play each other with a realistic playoff format... The classic teams are ok, maybe just this once (you could always create these as well) but personally I'd rather have more national teams... it would be nice to have all of Europe and set up a Euro Championship or even do World Cup qualifying...My brother favors national teams so he kept the 98 version, I favor clubs so 99 appealed to me...Maybe FIFA should be split into 2 games or be a double cd game with the best of both to satisfy everyone. One plus that I do like however is continual season play with relegations and promotions...obviously it would be nice if there were more and you could play as those teams (on PSX) but I guess you can't have it all... And whats's up with the Special Guests and EA Teams 1,2,3 & 4?

Stadiums & Kits:
I liked selecting the stadiums in 99...but I can live with the variety of rendered stadiums in 2K. But if you're going to model some stadiums after the real thing at least make sure the right teams play they're home matches in them! The kits did require some tweaking on colors here and there but at least you can do this in the customize section...they shouldn't ever get rid of this feature.

Commentary: For the U.S version this SUCKS. EA had to cop out and be politically correct. Who wants to hear some American idiot with Julie Foudy? Maybe for the MLS this would be ok... otherwise its horrible...this is not football and hey I'm an American! Bring back Motson! Give the game the international flavor it should have.

Gameplay: Now while EA did make improvements in the realism i.e...player modeling, movements (shielding) etc. and the passing is better with the red green and yellow indicators, the gameplay is still lacking realism...it's way too fast and unrealistic... it's a button mashing frenzy at times resulting in rediculous scores. The AI scores at will when it wants to because the defensive marking is pathetic. In 99 you could use the conservative tackle a lot more with better results, not so in 2K where you constantly have to resort to slide tackling to stop the score happy AI. Although 99 lacks some of the nice embellishments of 2K it seemed to play out a bit more realistically... I guess I'll have to tinker with it to get the scores down. The tactical features changed slightly...I do miss in game offensive options like the long ball and through run...but I can live with the simplified team tactics set up screen. I would also prefer the color coded fatigue indicators from 99, they're quicker and easier to read when deciding on substitutes instead of that mess of numbers.

I'll make the necessary adjustments to 2K and find ways to enjoy it but I'll still keep 99... EA could get it right next year but I wouldn't hold my breath...

Edoardo
23-11-1999, 09:53:AM
LOLjester lets say you had allready done the essay and it had been returned with happy faces on what was good and sadfaces on the bad so if you had to rewrite it you know what to work on.EA has had the same damn essay for 4 f@cken years and those bastards still cant get it right.the essay is now done on glossier paper with glow in the dark and a robbie williams autograph but the content is full of bloody sadfaces with three remainig happy ones.next year their going to take out another happyface and replace it with scratch&sniff...

[This message has been edited by Edoardo (edited 11-23-1999).]

bdincer
23-11-1999, 03:24:PM
What you guys talking about the EA did not even improve enough. Plus they took out some features from the game. How hard to find correct rosters. They are published on UEfa.com. You do not need to do any research. EA did a bad job this year. Let face it. I play NBA 2000 everyday it is perfect game. Why fifa games can not be like that. Here in US nobody cares about soccer. Ea knows this so they spend the bucks on naming rigths that's it. So with out the real names, the other games already lose. Ea just practice smart marketing. They built you up with all the crap before the realase date, then we are disappointed.

I love soccer that's the only reason I play fifa2000. I can not find single other soccer game here in dallas. I can not even find the MS Soccer on the stores here.
Why they do not market on us

BBB
24-11-1999, 02:10:PM
Good: Contacts, fouls, slides cutting the passes, long range goals, smart goalies
Bad: the ref lets the advantage play over a foul, defending players get switched off. If the forwards don't score from such action ref still brings play back to the foul. If they do score - bad luck. Yellow card -yes !!, bringing play back -no !!!!!!!
* 360 spin is very hard to stop. Once the player goes into the spin it's very hard to stop him. After geting out of the spin player pulls out an elbow an gets another few moments to get away. Step over from fifa99 was much more realistic and it's easier to stop as it takes less space that the spin. We can witness stepovers in real football every day - spins rearly. Why is that trick gone instead of spining or hurdling? Another thing: Goalies are way too week-you can score a goal from the long range O.K. but not targeting the middle of the goal. If the goalies were stronger the results would be more realistic. Goalie should cover at least 70% of his goal.
The selection of the team per cup/season =1. Why? It was most fun to play with mates in different cups and then meeting in quarters or semies. Why is there no handball? It happens in real football. Offsides!!!!! -Has anyone in EA heard of passive offside. Instant replay- what the hell's going on with that. Whenever I want to see the replay of the action it just shows the present moment - it's not a replay, it's pause.
Long passes - too short. Many passes, especially long ones, end up exactly in the players feet. EA should make the passes less percise and the fields a bit bigger so that we can use the feeling of the space and pace which is very important in real football. I completely agree that there should be a side-ref. There should be a possibility of fighting when the harsh foul is commited.

BBB
24-11-1999, 03:07:PM
Another thing: Commentary makes no effect.
There should be a south american kind of commentator instead of Motson. That guy must have been very sleepy when he recorded. The crowd shoud be envolved in a match.

BBB
24-11-1999, 03:26:PM
* Stadiums, oh stadiums. It is so frustrating to play insuch small stadiums. I played Sheffield - Manchester united in a fifth division kind of stadium. There's no point.
* Snow - the lines should be red/orange.
* World Cup - New Zealand, China, Izrael, England in the same group. Having taken England it was absolutely no fun to play the group. 1/8 final: Marocco. 1/4 final: Australia. 1/2 final: Iran. Final: Oh how exciting: England-Austria. Come on. EA should have taken into consideration only 20 first teams from the fifa ranking and put all other tems into qualifications for the world cup-to fill missing 12 places.

BBB
24-11-1999, 03:34:PM
And how about positioning: why isn' it possible to position a specific player to a specific position.

PolishPower
25-11-1999, 06:03:AM
You make some good points but also some i dont agree with:
yellow lines when it snows? hum who does that, what league? when it snows they usually go over with a snow blower where the lines are so they are green and the whole pitch is white from snow.

The line ref? whats the point exactly? so they can spend 100 men hours making a line ref, time which could be spend on making other improvement to the game?

Fighting between players, if you want fighting there is a boxing game EA makes, get that instead. I dont want fighting in my soccer game

[This message has been edited by PolishPower (edited 11-25-1999).]

Blue Moon
25-11-1999, 08:55:AM
I agree that fighting would be a waste of time. Most "fights" in professional soccer are lame anyway-- a lot of posturing and half-hearted shoves.

BBB
25-11-1999, 09:41:AM
But you guys can't say that it doesn't happen. Fights happen in almost every game of real football. It isn't that important, I agree, but we would have to be able to lose temper as well as real players.

Lord
25-11-1999, 05:14:PM
BBB - Are you sure you are not watching Hockey?
Fights in almost every game ????

New features:
I want an option ask about the lovely referee mother.
Have a date between the games, with that beautiful blond singer ( and y stamina will be low next game).

THat features makes the game more realistic!!! :-P

christoph
26-11-1999, 01:03:AM
I am disapointed with fifa2000.
I really liked to chose the stadium. Also, I agree that the field should be bigger, it should have a linesman, smarter keeper, player are to skinny, rainny games could be more realistic. I hope that the add-ons make it more attractive on the other features, because on gameplay and options I am disapointed. I is impossible to play a 6 minute game, because it would end 10x10.
I know its hard to sign the contracts, but ea could put much more teams, and the brazilian league could be complete, not only 7 teams. Also, the commentator are terrible. I have fifa soccer since 1994, and this one was the worst transition ever. They made 1 step ahead and 2 back.

LoLJester
03-12-1999, 01:32:AM
Allright!!!

I see that there are more and more people on this board who actually want to talk about FIFA 2000.

I haven't been on this board for a while, so I'm quite surprised with the number of positive and negative feedback received towards the topic. I would like to see more of that. Instead of posting messages about who are the best and worst in the world of soccer, try to write either negative or positive messages about the actual game.

You know that even if EA ever visited this forum, they would look at the topics that are most discussed in here (aka topics about who is the better or worse soccer player). They will not go over the ones that have little or no feedback at all. One would think that the people in this forum believe that these messages are not worth responding to, giving the impresion that people are very satisfied with game. If so, they will make small or no changes at all to the next installment of the game.

So keep posting, we might actually get EA's attention.

som3a
03-12-1999, 04:39:AM
i agree with all u people say about the defects of fifa2000, i just wanted to add one more thing.
did u notice that the computer players always win the headers from the human players whether their heading abilities are greater or not.
watch out for this because the computer scores many goals using this advantage it has especially from corners.

FIFAfreak
03-12-1999, 01:44:PM
Yeah the PSX version of FIFA 2000 can be really frustrating. The computer opponent just always seems to be right where my keeper kicks the ball! Winning all the headers, arrghhh! He runs through my defence with superhuman speed avoiding all tackling attempts! EA THIS IS NOT REALISTIC FOOTBALL!!!

I played 3 matches as Hertha Berlin against teams of fairly even strength on the same level and speed in both 2K and 99. The scores were so rediculous in 2K that I almost turned it off and threw it out the window.

On 2K:
Hertha Berlin 7 Sparta Prague 6
Hertha Berlin 2 Bordeaux 8 (yeah right!)
Hertha Berlin 10 Valencia 8 (EA this is not baseball!)

On 99:
Hertha Berlin 2 Sparta Prague 2
Hertha Berlin 3 Bordeaux 3
Hertha Berlin 4 Valencia 2

Ahhhh much more realistic scores in 99. WHAT HAPPENED EA? WHY DID YOU F***& IT UP?

Now I did get better results in 2K by cutting the attack/defend scale in half, lowering the values on the IGMs. The computer players were more conservative and the game was more competitive and challenging with lower scoring, I lost 3-2! Its just a pain to have to fix the settings before every match because EA could not apply accurate strategy settings to the teams. They're mostly the same throughout.

Another thing that is a real pain in the a** is having to customize the cameras before each match... HELLO EA! Wheres the ability to SAVE the custom camera settings? Something else they forgot in the rush to get the game out. ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!

Beatie
07-12-1999, 05:15:AM
Please Konami or any other company, relase a better soccer game than fifa99 !!! When something like that happend, I believe that EA has to realy improve ther soccer game! I agree on people that writes in this subjec, about the marketing strategies! So what we all need here is competition!!! On the playstation there already is a lot of competition (Uefa striker for example) How long does it takes to put a realy good NOT EA soccer game to the PC???

Let's see than, how fast the soccer games improve...

PS2 3.4.00
07-12-1999, 05:32:AM
Every year for the past decade or so, EA Sports has been bringing us top notch sports games such as the Madden, NBA Live, Triple Play and NHL series' year in and year out. Of course this list would not be complete without mentioning the Juggernaut that is the FIFA series, which is the best selling video game franchise in the entire world. Last November, the video gaming world was blessed with FIFA ’99, one of the best sports games of all time. I mean, the replay value on FIFA ’99 is higher than the latest Akira Fubuki movie, which says a whole lot. So the logical step is to improve the game, if possible, for 2000 right? WRONG. Simply put, FIFA 2K is one of the biggest let downs in the history of Video Games. Why you ask? Where shall I start...

First off, there is no significant increase in National teams or Club leagues. EA promised to include J-league, K-league and Argentine league but fell quite short of their promises. The only new teams are “All Time” teams, which are sort of fresh I suppose, for about 1 game, and then it gets pretty tired. Oh, I forgot, we have been blessed by the presence of all the ever-fresh MLS teams... Nuff said.

Second, the game play has not improved which is not so bad considering FIFA ‘99’s game play was outstanding. HOWEVER, FIFA 2K’s engine is not up to par with FIFA ’99. The AI now consists of slide tackles from behind, never being able to win a ball on your chest and those AMAZING FIFA ’99 specials i.e. the “stepover” and “rainbow kick” are surprisingly absent. But, you can now “shield” the ball quite nicely, which is 100% worthless to the overall game play...

The last, yet the biggest disappointment with FIFA 2K is the sound…. You remember the first time you played FIFA ’99 and you were greeted with FatBoySlim’s “Rockafella Skank” (EA had signed FatBoy way before he blew up in the U.S) only to get to the main menu and hear the vicious sounds of God Within’s “Raincry”( the He-Who-Heeeey song)? Not only was the music bearable in FIFA ’99, but also it was quite enjoyable…WELL FIFA2K has certainly f#*ked that scenario, unless you are down with Brit Robbie Williams (He is Mariah Carey and Ricky Martin rolled in one) who was signed by EA to make an original song for FIFA 2K. So the music sucks, no biggie right?? You can still get on the pitch and hear the brilliant commentary of the man, the myth, the legend JON MOTSON RIGHT? WRONG... EA has provided the U.S version of the game with a nameless ESPN “soccer” announcer for the play by play and they have blessed us with the brilliant color commentary of non-other than Women’s U.S National Team member JULIE FOUDY. Nice going EA of Canada. Some of the brilliant commentary you will hear is, “Good Soccer,” which has replaced “Good Football.” I mean come on; an American announcing a “Footy” is about as fresh as a Brit announcing an MLB game. Not only does Julie Foudy almost single handedly ruin the game, but also in addition to Mr. Foudy’s presence, there are hardly ANY player names mentioned in the actual game play. Remember when you juked the f#*k out of your best mate using David Beckham and you ripped a blast from just outside of the box and you heard Motty scream “Beckham is there!!!” It AINT GONNA HAPPEN in FIFA2K... Honestly I could go on for hours ranting and raving about how wack FIFA2K is, but I have already done that to EA directly and on countless bulletin boards on the Net especially this one...

BOTTOM LINE: DO NOT BUY FIFA2K, don’t even play it... Trust me. Simply put, FIFA2K is travesty of epic proportions... I pre-booked the game back in September and counted the days until Oct. 21st... Needless to say on Oct. 21st, I promptly returned it. FIFA2K is not even worthy of the “FIFA” title, then again, I should have expected that when I saw Eddie Pope on the box and the title was officially FIFA 2000: MLS. So do this, keep FIFA ’99 or go out and buy it. And while you do so, keep your fingers crossed that EA has learned their lessons and we will not see the likes of “FIFA” 2K on Playstation 2 for FIFA ‘01…Long live FIFA ‘99.

Beatie
07-12-1999, 05:56:AM
I agree on you 'PS2 3.4.00'....100%

That is what I mean, I don't evan talk about it normaly, Fifa2k realy sucks. I like it that the more people buy fifa2k (don't buy it if you didn't buy it yet!!!) the more people complain about it.

How can you make so many customers angry???? I don't care what the reviews in the magazines say: FIFA 2000 **CKS!!!


Don't buy the fifa2000 game...!!!! Just don't!!!!

celtic fc
07-12-1999, 06:19:AM
I'm overall satisfied with the game.But another let down was they promised us 10 consecutive seasons they only delivered 3 seasons.I was going to take my team and build it up over the seasons,but all of a sudden at the end of my 3rd season the screen comes up and says your season is finished and takes me back to the menu page.

Beatie
09-12-1999, 02:23:AM
Celtic Fc:

Well another reason to NOT buy the game.. Fifa2k keep suprising me! Only 3 seasons???
woehahaha that's make me laugh..Another trick of EA to improve the next game easy..

BBB
09-12-1999, 03:06:PM
Come on guys, the game is not that bad but I have to admit that it could have been better. I think that we can all influence as we are the customers and therefore most important segment for the EA company. Only if they would have a one single look at this forum of remarks and wishes. They would make a perfect game. But they won't, and we'll keep buyin' and buyin' again although they will be making only slight improvements between the releases keeping us worm and nervous - if that's their tactic they are wrong because there is competition to beat them. I said this once and I say it again-this forum has no point if EA does not have a look at it. ------- Come on Ric ---------

CyberKid
10-12-1999, 07:14:PM
Let's see...

FIFA 99 rulez! And there is nothing that can convice me otherwise. I've been playing FIFA 2000 for over a week now and I finally shelved it--it's been an annoying distraction to say the least. For all those who are thinking about purchasing FIFA 2000 think about it twice.

This is what I found.

Where are the stadiums in FIFA 2000? I can't find them, I looked hard but couldn't come up with anything, in FIFA 99 there were so many places you can play. I can't find how to change stadiums.

I have a Voodoo classic card and FIFA 2000 looks pretty bad (blocky characters, jaggies). On my friend's Voodoo 2 card it doesn't even come close to FIFA 99's plain support for the classic Voodoo card--I'm extremely disappointed. The game graphics also are comic-bookish making the game old very fast.

Gone are the random player screams from FIFA 99 which brought realism to the game.

Gone are the background noises such as passing cars from the training modes.

Gone are the 8 different camera angles from FIFA 99. FIFA 2000 supports only 4 (like, hello? whatever happened to getting more for your money and not less???).

Gone are some really neat trick moves.

Gone is the realistic gameplay.

So with all the stuff that is missing what does FIFA 2000 have going for it? Well, the CD can be used as a very nice coaster for the coffee table. The game box graphics look good--uh--yeah, you can use the box for a litter box for your kitten (this is very nice). Umm...ok...