I really hope now PES3 is on PC that Konami would consider releasing patches for the community.

The problem i refer to is the retarded AI teams in the ML selecting ridiculous line-ups.

What is the point of editing away for hours, buying the free transfer option and the formation editor in the PES shop, sorting the starting lineups for every team, if as soon as you start a ML the AI does things like put strikers in centre midfield and replace first choice players with fringe players.

i spent ages setting the first 11s up for the big teams, but after my first ML game I checked the other teams and I found figo on the bench at Madrid with his place taken by Ruben, with Cambiasso in centre defence. Stupid.

I found Ronaldinho had been put on the bench and Kluivert swapped for Motta. Why?? No injuries, and even if there were you wouldn't do that.

I could go on, almost every team had mad changes made.

There MUST be a way to make the AI realise that it should only change its starting line-up if there are injuries or excessive fatigue, or if they really must change them then at least stick to their position - replace strikers with strikers etc etc


For now the ML is ruined for me.....

Same goes for me but I heard it was because u started the master league before all the edits had been done. Im not 100% sure but I think sum1 must know the truth to this.

:o
hope this is not true :$

i have noticed this too. john terry plays in side midfield!! i have tried changing their positions so that they should ONLY operate in that position.

I was holding out for wolfs editing patch but now that you have said that the cpu makes stupid changes etc this sort of blows that out of the water.


which ruins the enjoyment for me. f$£K!!

Lippi plays Tudor in midfield for Juve....its all up to the coach sometimes..

Does this only happen on the PC version?

It happens in the PS2 version although i never noticed it this bad.

It is nothing to do with my settings either, it's the game.

thats what happens when the AI tries to be smart :)

Originally posted by theCRO
Lippi plays Tudor in midfield for Juve....its all up to the coach sometimes..

would a coach needlessly sabotage his team with ridiculous lineups though? no...

Originally posted by Ashy
would a coach needlessly sabotage his team with ridiculous lineups though? no...

yea good point. I dont think Barca are gonna take out Ronaldinho and put Motta in his space:| thats like saying taking out Ruud for Man utd and putting Wes Brown or something like that.

Guys, do you think the AI chooses subs depending on their position in the team list? What I mean is when scrolling down in the formations menu the subs should go in descending order starting with CBs and going down to CFs and GKs.

If you put a CF in the first sub position would the AI think this player is first choice reserve for your starting CB?

Do you see what i mean? maybe the problem i had was that I had put Figos opposite number (ie when you press 'right' in the subs menu and it scrolls down a page) as Ruben (a DF) and not another SMF.

So maybe all we have to do is make sure the second 11 goes in order, CB, SB, DMF, SMF, OMF, WG, CF, GK....this won't stop the AI changing the players but it might make them choose players that fit in right and play in the correct position.

I would be interested in hearing if that fixed anything Milo..

It didn't.


F*cking bent.

Maybe the reason the AI is choosing bad positions for players is because of ...

#Say PlayerX is a well known MF that really no one would ever play in any other position than MF !?
#Now say PlayerX positional selection attribute determine he is 1. MF 2. DMF 3. DF
#So the AI thinks 'I'll replace my DF' Checks attributes for best DF. Sees PlayerX with great attributes can play DF.
#Subs a DF for PlayerX who normally wouldn't play there.

Maybe if we try to give players only 1 positional attribute, see if that mght help to force AI to play them in correct position?

Worth a test ?