Hey guys,
I think it`s about time to make our own topic, so we don`t have to search each other through other topics...
Ok, from now on, all posts between us should be here...

Now, some news...

I finally got some time and upadted all teams which means: VERY exact jerseys, players, formations, jersey colors, exact starting line-ups, no more stupid stuff like goalkeeper taking freekicks, team qualities are MUCH more real (There is no more stuff like that Gradina is MUCH better than Bosna)...
I also made Sarajevo bit worse (I had to, it was just too good...) http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

I also have the league name, and I`m trying to figure out how to make the flag properly...

I think that`s it for this time...

P.S. that address for new version of front name editor doesn`t work...

Please, give me all your suggestions and offers, and let`s make this patch even better, together...

Bye
Armin
sarayewo@hotmail.com

Here is the adress for th editor:
ftp://ftp.stomped.com/pub/fifa99/programs/me99.zip

Here I am again,
I think that we should make a homepage or a whole site for Bosnian league updates! What do you think about that? Maybe we could update the patch evry month or so until it`s perfect. Buy the way, I still haven`t figured out how to edit the damn flag, but maybe those guys who made Latin American patch can help us. I saw that they have made new flags for some leagues.
P.S. On www.bhfudbal.com they have listed players of Djerzelez, Jedinstvo and I think Zeljo ( I`m not sure!!!) with the front names!!! That`s great!Just go to "premijer liga" & then "klubovi"! Answer as soon as possible
Emir
mj_e@hotmail.com

Oyha, http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif
Emir, I downloaded the editor, and it`s the same one I had before... But I found out how to fix that problem with hijeroglifi, but it takes some time, because I have to hexedit every player...
But, I`ll do it as soon as possible...
By the way, what do you think about those changes that I wrote in first message.
There is no need for those first names from that site, because I got some stuff containing all teams`s colors and players, and it came directly from NSBiH...

Considering the page... I think it`s a great idea! I`m not so bad in web designing (www.armin.nasha.com this is my homepage, go see) but I`m at this moment involved in constant updating of 3 websites, so I can`t do this by myself...
Post your suggestions...

Bye
Armin
sarayewo@hotmail.com

Hi guys!

Great idea about the web-site... Well, I've worked before on 3-4 different sites (mine) and I have an free "no banner" server, so if I can help out write back....

Well. Multi editor works perfectly for me, I don`t know why you`re having those problems. If you think it`s hard to hex-edit every damn player then you can mail the files to me when you`re finished with the patch and I´ll edit the first names ( if you send me that stuff you have from NSBiH ). By the way, how`s it going with the flag? Any news? About the site, Footie, e-mail me as soon as possible ( SaraYeWo, too ), we need to talk about site design.

Bono, thanks for offering help, but I have those first names on paper, so it`s kinda double work...

About the flag: I still haven`t found appropriate gif for the flag, so if you find any gif`s of bh flag send it to me... I`ll contact those guys who created the latin american patch and see if they could help us with that flag...
Footie, contact us immediatelly about that no banner server you have...
Guys do you use IRC? if you do, we should meet once to talk about the details of this web site... I`m off the school from New Year, so I can do something about the design, send me your suggedtions about how should site look, and you could really help if you could make some small graphics (players, flags, add-ons) for the site...
Please let me know if you use IRC...

About the names: I`ll do what I can, but I think we don`t have to match all first names... We should name exactly some major players because ME99 doesn`t say from which team player is, and there are a lot of players with sam last names...
So I suggest that we should name properly those major players, and then make random fist names for the rest... It`s not perfect, but until we find some better editor like FED2000...

P.S. EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE IN MAKING THIS PATCH BETTER, SO PLEASE, GIVE US YOU OPPINION, SUGGESTIONS, COMMENTS ETC.
THANK YOU

Bye
Armin
sarayewo@hotmail.com

Oh, BonnovaX is your name Emir, that's a cool name. My name is Emirhan, but my mom and my friends usually call me Emir.

Hello guys!
I don't know Bosnian football, so I'm looking forward to take a look at your patch when it's ready.

Just one thing, I don't know what programs you're using to edit the flag, but some time ago I got myself a program, NFS Wizard, for editing pictures from Need for Speed. The game is also from EA, so they use the same kind of graphics that are used in Fifa (including *.fsh).

You probably already have some utility to edit FSH, but I found this program useful to open fsh files because it allows us to "simulate" animations when there is more than one picture in a fsh (if you try it you'll see what I mean). I use it as the default windows editor in my pc, and it's useful to see the flags animation effects (and others, like the stadium's spectators).
It allows you to export each compressed picture as a tga, and from this you can save it as gif, bmp, whatever you want.

I suppose that there are Fifa program utilities out there doing the same thing, but I've always used NFS Wizard, since it's still compatible with most of Fifa's graph files (it can't read all from fifa2k).

Anyway, if you (or anybody else) need something like this and you don't have it, you can take a look at

http://www.nfscheats.com/cgibin/download/?http://www.nfscheats.com/nfstoolbox/files/nfswiz03.exe

Its size is about 1 MB.

Good luck for your patch!

Sorry, the address is only one, not two. Type it all together (when I posted it, it broke in two)

Ok, I've send both of you an mail.. About the IRC, well, I thik I'm ginna download one then, and we should find time that's "ok" for all of us....

Anyway, I'll se ya later.... http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/wink.gif

Thanks for the link Game Rod... I'm sure the patch will kick ass http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/wink.gif

Thanks a lot Game Rod, I`m downloading it at this moment, and I`ll try it out... Thanks
I do have ome fsh editors, but they can`t edit animations, which is just what I need...

Footie, looking forward for that mail... I already have a couple of ideas about the design of the page, but it would take some time... It`s kinda complicated way...

I`ll tell you about it later...

Bye
Armin

Well, Armin,
I still offer you my help with the first names cos my Me99 works perfectly! I can also edit team names so that thy won`t be cut off ( like Zeljeznicar ) so if there is any way you can post me the player`s names and the patch files after you`re finished it`ll take me just 1-2 hours to fix it. I mailed Footie & gave him some suggestions about site design - it`s really hard to do it this way by mailing each other. By the way, taht idea about meeting on irc is great - I have my own channel on Dalnet called #mo_088 ( we could meet there cos it`s queit, hehe ).
Cujemo se, bosanci!

Well, I have to download the chat-program, but I can only "talk" at nights, between 22-and so on.....

Have you guys tryed the Paint Shop Pro? It has an animation program with it, it's great.
But I cant figure out how to change the shape of the flag, to make it "move"...
And where can I find the names of the players
'coz I was thinking to make the national team. That is if one of you havent done that already....

Se ya....
Cao

Bono,
Why don`t you take the names from that www.bhfudbal.com site you told me? If there are all of them... If not, you take those that are there, and I`ll email you the rest... It will be a boring typing job, but someone has to do it... About the team name (Zeljeznicar), that`s also a great idea, because I can`t g et team names in ME99 either... So, as soon as I`m finished in working on players and team management, I`ll send you the files, you make those first names and team names, and send it back to me for further work... What do you think about that?

Footie, please re-send me that mail on sarayewo@hotmail.com because 5plus@bih.net.ba is not working at this moment.

I tried that program that Game Rod suggested, and it is a lot easier to wrok with then with other FSH editors, but it still doesn`t solve the problem with the flag (damn!). I`ll send an email to those latins very soon, and I`ll let you know.

About the IRC:
I`m on IRC every evening after 22.30 but I`m on IRCNET... So please, join server irc.webbernet.net (Footie, you have to type /server irc.webbernet.net http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif), and find me on #bosnia (Footie /join #bosnia) under nick ZohaR
Bono, I`ll try to catch you on Dalnet, be OL after 22.30...
Is you nick on IRC BonovoX?

Footie, I haven`t used paint shop pro, but take it easy, we`ve got plenty of time...

C Ya

Armin
sarayewo@hotmail.com (please use this email to contact me)

Man I definitely write longest replys at the whole forum http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif
Sorry, but I`ve got so much to tell you http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif
Armin

I´ll be on dalnet at about 23.30 tonight! ( I think, I´m not definitelly sure ). And Footie I have already made our national team but it`s better to wait so that we can include it in our patch. And Armin, this site "www.bhfudbal.com" only have three teams` players listed & no positions & tactics so I´ll just wait for you to finish your work on the patch if it`s alright with you & then re-edit players and teams. What do you think?

I forgot to tell you, my nick n dalnet is pretty mauch the same. It`s [BonovoX]

Ok Bono, I`ll be there...

Bono give me your email, I`ll send you the cusplyr.db file (that`s the file needed for me99 to edit player first names) and you edit it and send it back to me...
I think we should just put real names to major players, and to randomly put letters to the rest... But we`ll talk about it

Footie, about the long address, that`s not problem, I have several free redirecting sites...
And the graphics aren`t very big problem, but we have to meet to consider the page design and to share jobs...

C Ya
Armin
sarayewo@hotmail.com

Well, I'll be on the server at about 23:20 or so...

See you then....

For the national team:
Footie, the problem is that the national team is made of players from leagues (for example, check out the team management of Isreal national team... get it?)
Bono, I just got a GREAT idea... I can change the names, and they will have those hieroglifics at the end, then I`ll send it to you, and you just re-change it to a same name. for Example: If It`s Alen Skoro, I`ll change the first name into an "A" and get "Skoro A?", and then you re-change that A into another A in your ME and You`ll have pure "Skoro A" ... get it?

I think that`s the best way, so we don`t have to mess with those names too much....

Bye

I`m really really sorry guys that I couldn`t talk yo you last night. My girlfriend had to use the phone & when she finally finished ( at midnight ) I had 3 CD`s to burn to a friend of mine. Let me know what U 2 talked about and what you came up with. I`ll send e-mail to both of you in case you`re not able to irc during the day. I`ll be on dalnet until 10.00 and than again from 12.30 until almost 17.00. I`ll also try to catch you on irc.webbernet.com. In case the computer you use during the day don`t have mirc installed goto www.dalbosnia.com and enter through java.
Bye, Emir
emirmisic@hotmail.com

Bono, it`s ok about the chat
I`m usually at irc.webbernet.net (ZohaR)
I`m not on irc during the day, but i am almost every evening after 22.00
Bono, I think it`s much easier to make the first names like I posted last time, much easier than your way (with 3 teams at a time)...
Considering team names, I can send you that right now because all jerseys and player appereances are done.

Now, I will tell you about the page design in mail, but we still have to meet to share jobs...

Bye
Armin
sarayewo@hotmail.com

SaRaYeWo,
send the file to me & I`ll edit team names. I`ll try to catch you on irc, but I`m not sure when.

Hi guys,
Sorry for not writing, but end of school is coming, and I have to catch some marks...
Bono, as sson as i find some time, I will change those names and send the file to you to fix it......

C Ya

Armin
sarayewo@hotmail.com

I am not bosnian but i am doing a patch too and no one tells me where can i get a good hexeditor and how can i change the league name and 2nd division teams. Please help me