View Full Version : How can I defeat FIFA2000 World-Class?


fifa99_expert
06-12-1999, 08:27:AM
I need some help on how to defeat FIFA2000 World-Class?

What I see in the differences in difficulty level is just more tackles and slides with each increasing difficulty.

How can I defeat FIFA2000 World-Class? All they do to show World Class difficulty is BACKSLIDE, BACKSLIDE & BACKSLIDE...

World Class difficulty is a load of rubbish.
All they know... BACKSLIDE!

My record for FIFA2000 WC, 4 mins is
Arsenal (me) vs Brazil

Half-time Facts
Score (7) - (0)
11 Total Shots 0
10 Shots on Target 0
3 Corners 0
0 Bookings 0
0 Fouls 0
48% Possession 52%
|5%|54%|41%|

Full-time facts
Score (11) - (0)
17 Total Shots 3
16 Shots on Target 2
3 Corners 0
0 Bookings 0
0 Fouls 1
50% Possession 50%
|13%|52%|35%|

Can anyone defeat world class difficulty better? If so, please tell me how.

Also, can anyone please record your best socres here, so I can learn from you pple?

AWASINAM
06-12-1999, 01:51:PM
if u use skills then u r going to defeat computer easily. there is no fun in beating computer. i will be getting joypads for my pc and will play my brother. this should be more fun as computer is just doing predictable things but humans r unpredictable and much more intelligent than a computer. the game will be much more fun and scorelines will be much more realistic.at first i found game too easy on professional but then i changed both teams full defence and it was much more fun.i play 10 minutes and its more challenging now. i played fifa99 WC and it was rediculous u have to play so fast and all the time. plus if u make arsenal as good as brasil what is suppose to happen. i don't think u have modified anything.the people at EA don't know much about football.a good player is one who can limit his/her skills and play withuot them. this proves u have conquered the game. the only skill i use is shielding.

gameaholic
06-12-1999, 04:43:PM
well don t get your hopes up...playing human opponents usually ends with a 6-6 or so...even wiht the speed patch and with upgrading the tackling skills.....


fifaxpert...i know the new world class difficulty is rather easy....

try these things....
a. take a very bad team ..like al ahly or whatever the name was..

b. don t use the tricks (u know ctrl and alt)

c. if you re still winning 7-0 then you re just too damn good :-)

northview
06-12-1999, 05:13:PM
OK, I am impressed! You all seem to beat even the best AI-controlled teams easily in Pro and WC mode. Am I the only loser on this forum???? I have practised for weeks now and still have trouble regularly beating good teams in Pro mode. However, this makes every game a challenge, which is why I enjoy playing FIFA 2000!!! Still, I would be very interested to know what skills you guys posses who can beat all AI opposition easily. Have you practised for years, do you have lightning quick reflexes, or have you developed play patterns which outsmarts the AI?? Just curious.

SwarthyEnglishman
06-12-1999, 05:34:PM
I beat Brazil 70 with Brazil 15-0, and beat Brazil 70 with Al Ahly (low scoreline, but I won) on World Class. It is really easy. I would play mutliplayer, but I am still trying to figure out why the modem game doesn't work for me.

london
06-12-1999, 11:32:PM
I agree WC level is too easy. I finished off a season with 150 goals scored (or thereabouts). One thing you can try, which I do as a challenge, is to let the computer score a certain amount of goals before I start playing. I don't always win that win I do that.

fifa99_expert
07-12-1999, 02:57:AM
Thanks for your tips.
Hoping for more.

Fat Bhoy Tim
07-12-1999, 06:06:AM
I've given up with the tricks and i score more now....even with any cheap "international" team like Al Ahly or Al Whada
and i still win 10-0 at WC

(P.S,all those Al... whatever clubs happen to be from the U.A.E How do i know this? I have the misfortune to temporairily live here)

Celtic Canuck
07-12-1999, 06:25:AM
Your not the only one northview. I have massive ego drops when I get my ass kicked by an African team or the Americans. On pro-mode, at the least. It's very humiliating. For the FIFA pros out there; how the hell do you do it?!

Edoardo
07-12-1999, 09:04:AM
I dont find it easy playing in worldclass not only that but its also frustrating and unrealistic the computer moves way too fast and im not able to make four passes in a row so real "playmaking" is next to none...also i dont belive people that say that they can beat fifa 2k on wc with 15-0, its the 0 im having trouble with in fifa2k even non fouls are rewarded to the computer and they can score from any free kick no matter how far not ony that on wc your team mates can become idiots and the computer can do a straight forward run and score while your defenders go the opposite direction.if you guys are beating the computer with a set pattern then i might belive you but personally i find this to be repetitive and boring with very little creativity and immagiation....to prove me wrong then answer theese three easy questions...#1 how do you manage to beat the computer on headers all the time or most of the time...#2 how do you take ball possesion away from the computer in an effective way to limit fouls wich gives the computer free kicks hence goal scoring opportunities...#3 i know that you will never out run the computer so how do you manage effective ball passing and keepaway to create numerous goalscoring opportunities and goals. because to score 7 goals in first half you must at least have total 11 shots unless your 95% accurate.failure to answer my fairly easy questions would lead me to belive you guys are reeeaaaly fast with your fingers or your just trying to impress people...wow !?!?

Divine
07-12-1999, 11:08:AM
Yeah. I can't seem to get consistent wins in WC either. I can win a game 5-1, but then lose 4-0 to a team with less quality. It seems so random. My main question is: How do you keep the CPU from scoring? I score loads of goals in WC, but almost always let in plenty as well. 5-4, 4-4, 6-4 are normal results with 6 min. halves. If you beat the computer 10-0 in WC, then you can probably tell us how to defend corners and free-kicks. 75% of all the goals I concede is from set pieces. The rest comes when the CPU forward just breaks through the center, being way too fast for my defenders to catch him.
I haven't found ANY way to avoid this. My team's AI is so lousy when it comes to defending. Even with a 4-4-2 formation with defnsive style set to "withdrawn", I often find my defenders on the half-way line, leaving the path open for the CPU striker. I don't understand how you can defend against this hopeless situations. Please explain, supermen...

fifa99_expert
08-12-1999, 03:05:AM
That, you have to ask the superman who thrashed wc 15-0.

Any way, what's your formation, IGMs, tatics...etc.?

Batistuta
08-12-1999, 04:49:AM
Well to be honest with you all, I am also one of those who find World Class mode to be somewhat easy. In my first full season I scored over 200 goals with Fiorentina (Batistuta - 100 (exactly), Chiesa - about 45 or so). My biggest win is 8-1 against Perugia I think (BatiGOL scored 7 in that game).
EA Sports said that the teams learn your strategy and counter it....but I am yet to see this happen.

xizor
08-12-1999, 05:51:AM
yeah world class AI for fifa2k sucks like a hoover. Why the bloody hell did EA changed the AI for??? Fifa99 had by far the best WC AI. hopefully a difficulty patch from EA, similar to the one for fifa98, would be released.

gmartinz
08-12-1999, 09:48:AM
If you can beat the AI 15-0 at the WC level it's time to turn the computer off and go outside. Actually, go coach a youth team. It'll give you an infinitely greater sense of satisfaction . . . and heartbreak. There's nothing more frustrating than watching your 12 year olds on defense get a communal brain-lock in their penalty area with a one goal lead and two mintues to play. You are mentally pressing the "D" button while three boys stand around and watch a kid put the ball in the back of the net.

edwardray
08-12-1999, 05:23:PM
Yeah, WC level in FIFA2000 is much easier than that in FIFA99.

Anyway, the game becomes more interesting at that level if you develop a more realisitic game. How many players on the real field do you see performing an "Alt" or a "Ctrl" Jump? Not many. However, if you stick to using "Ctrl" sideways (which real players do all the time) and low shots with "Q" when required, you'll probably enjoy the game a lot more.

Of course, if you use "Alt" turn and such tricks every other instant, you'll end up with scorelines such as 6-0 and further. But is that really entertaining? I think there's nothing more entertaining than sidestepping a defender this way, sidestepping another defender the other way, and tapping a cheeky low one past the goalie. Now THIS doesn't seem to be very easy to achieve...and it sure is fun when you manage it.

Divine
08-12-1999, 09:35:PM
Yeah.
Start by answering this relatively easy question:
How do you defend corners?

edwardray
08-12-1999, 11:37:PM
Okay man...here's what I do to defend corners. Doesn't work all the time but keeps you in the game and with a feeling that you have some control in your own penalty box.

There are 3 set pieces. Set pieces 1 and 2 are commonly used by the AI where two of the computer's players stand near the spot, run out and run back in toward the far post. Well, these two guys will probably be marked A and W.

Press either A or W to set three of your defenders on one of these guys. You will have a fourth defender selected and in your control now. Move this guy in front of the other attacker. The attacker will keep fidgeting...do the same and somehow keep your selected defender in front of him. That's the set-up. Now hold "D" and hope one of your four active defenders heads the ball out, which is quite probable.

All this sounds like a long procedure, but it isn't. And anyway, I'm no superplayer...my usual WC scores are 3-2, 4-2 and I lose games frequently...hell, I'd like to keep it that way. What's the point in playing if the possibility of losing isn't there? Of course, if one starts using all those tricks, especially that goddamn unrealistic "Alt" turn all the time, it IS easy to make a fool out of the WC AI.

london
08-12-1999, 11:46:PM
OK....I can't beat the computer at WC 15-0. I do let them in a lot. However I always outscore it. The way to do it is to know where on the pitch you have to shot. There are normally 2 or 3 places where you are guaranteed to score. The first is as you approach the 6 yard box on either side. You want to shoot diagnally (can't spell) here. The 2nd way is to run with the ball from the sideline into the penalty box and thenwhen you are almost at the touchline shoot and the goalie will knock it in for you. The 3rd way is to ru the ball into the penalty box and as you approach the penalty spot the goalie should start to move....take the shot and it will normally go past the goalie into the goal.

I concede very few free-kicks when I play. I've learnt that when the other side has the ball I virtually never slide tackle but I switch control of the players to closest to the ball and then hit the tackle button A LOT (not the slide tackle button)!!!!! You can usually take the ball away from the opposition by doing this without giving fouls.

I never use that stupid IGM crap. I play a straight 442 with fullbacks running forward and wingers going back and forward. I do use the button which allows you to play offside and two-on-one coverage. These two buttons are EXTREMELY useful. However, watch the offside button cause you do get caught out by the computer now and then. Also learn how to make your goalie come out and rush the player with the ball. This will save your skin A LOT especially if you get caught out when trying to play an offside.

I can't always beat the computer with headers. If I'm taking a goal kick I either kick the ball into open space so that I have a chance of getting to it before the computer does, or I let the computer have the header but make sure I get my player to loose ball after it.

When I pass the ball I nearly always go for short passes or I pass across the pitch, switching the ball from one wing to the other. I try not to dwell on the ball but rather use a lot of one touch or extremely quick easy passes to players I can see on the screen. I tend not to use the visual passing indicator because it is not always accurate. Instead I use intuition. If you use your brain and think about where you are on the field and the formation you are playing you can normally find one of your players without the indicator.

It is true that you usually can't outpace the computer's defenders but if you make the right pass at the right time you can normally get a head start on them and then if 360 them at the right time you will leave them for dust because they tend to slide tackle you.

Erm...I can't think of anythng else right now but I hope those tips are useful. If you ask more questions I'll try and answer them.

Oh...btw, I'm one of the guys who can score more than 150 goals a season on WC.

Hope it helps. Good Luck.

northview
09-12-1999, 06:12:AM
Well come on you superplayers, give us an answer or the rest of us will start to think you are all bragging!

In posts above by myself, Celtic Canuck, Edoardo and Divine, we ask you to explain how you in WC mode can beat good teams 11-0, 15-0 etc. As yet not one of you have provided an explanation of how to do this, all you say is 'it is really easy'. No, it is not! Read the last few sentences of Edoardos post to see why. So either come up with some insights or stop bragging!

Edoardo
09-12-1999, 06:13:AM
i was outscoring the computer in pro so i switched to wc and i eventualy beat it but i did a little expirement i made all my players 7s and played against a week team and guess what they still beat me in sprinting and headers moste of the time they would jump and knock out my defender and goalie and score...Any ways i only got one thing to say this is what i do for good gameplay i put it in pro get a decent team not to good not too bad and go to the igm and put the attacking bar all the way down and my opponents igm i put it one down from neutral this makes for great gamming in 4 min , so far i have tied with fiorentina 0-0 and i beat udinense 1-0 from a corner kick my defender shot from otside the box way cool...my highest score was a 3-2 comeback and it has only happened once, then parma beat me 2-0..Anyways i think we are doing EA's job by adjusting cammera and having to move around igm or getting players appearance right and this blows....

SwarthyEnglishman
09-12-1999, 06:51:AM
I tell the absolute truth. I have nothing to gain by lying.

Here are the answers, as best I can give them:

#1: The same way that you win headers in real life. Get in front of your man.

#2: With the ref strictness set to random, I have only gotten two cards. I'm not sure what your problem is; try not to slide tackle from behind.

#3: Stringing passes is really easy for me. I don't know what to say; it just seems to come naturally. Also, I use moves/dekes. I can pretty much pick which player I want to score with, assuming that he has some offensive skills.

I'm generally good at playing computer games, so I guess that I can move my fingers pretty fast...

"I dont find it easy playing in worldclass not only that but its also frustrating and unrealistic the computer moves way too fast and im not able to make four passes in a row so real "playmaking" is next to none...also i dont belive people that say that they can beat fifa 2k on wc with 15-0, its the 0 im having trouble with in fifa2k even non fouls are rewarded to the computer and they can score from any free kick no matter how far not ony that on wc your team mates can become idiots and the computer can do a straight forward run and score while your defenders go the opposite direction.if you guys are beating the computer with a set pattern then i might belive you but personally i find this to be repetitive and boring with very little creativity and immagiation....to prove me wrong then answer theese three easy questions...#1 how do you manage to beat the computer on headers all the time or most of the time...#2 how do you take ball possesion away from the computer in an effective way to limit fouls wich gives the computer free kicks hence goal scoring opportunities...#3 i know that you will never out run the computer so how do you manage effective ball passing and keepaway to create numerous goalscoring opportunities and goals. because to score 7 goals in first half you must at least have total 11 shots unless your 95% accurate.failure to answer my fairly easy questions would lead me to belive you guys are reeeaaaly fast with your fingers or your just trying to impress people...wow !?!?"

SwarthyEnglishman
09-12-1999, 06:53:AM
Heh. I do. I used to think of the games in terms of FIFA 99, but I don't any more. However, I prefer playing instead of watching.

"If you can beat the AI 15-0 at the WC level it's time to turn the computer off and go outside. Actually, go coach a youth team. It'll give you an infinitely greater sense of satisfaction . . . and heartbreak. There's nothing more frustrating than watching your 12 year olds on defense get a communal brain-lock in their penalty area with a one goal lead and two mintues to play. You are mentally pressing the "D" button while three boys stand around and watch a kid put the ball in the back of the net."


[This message has been edited by SwarthyEnglishman (edited 12-09-1999).]

Vexapor
09-12-1999, 07:07:AM
I've lost some and won some on World Class mode. A problem I had even in a 4-4-2 was giving away breakaway goals after I scored.
I kind of solved this by setting my in game management to a defensive position and learning how to make my goal keeper come out with the L-1 button.
Learning to pass the ball quickly- even back to your defenders if you must helps open the game up a little.
As for scoring, regardless of what difficulty you play in, you're not going to score outside 15 yards.
My biggest problem remains giving up goals on corner kicks. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but I've yet to find what.

Hope this helps.

fifa99_expert
09-12-1999, 08:11:AM
If you type fast, surely you can play fast.
I didn't sit down for hours to practice typing. I type game cheats to end missions and watch cinematics. Eventually, I typed faster and faster. Hence the fast finger movements.

You can achieve 1 goal with 1 shot.
It can be done by crossing. If you are an expert crosser...
Basically, you just cross the ball, then head it past the keeper. That way, you get 1 shot, 1 goal.

The skill modes are there for a reason. If you call yourself an expert in Fifa2000, using skill modes like ALT, SHIFT, is NOT cheating. It is making use of skills in the game to the max. Sounds nicer eh?

Another way to acheive 1 shot, 1 goal, is to get 1 on 1 with the keeper, then hurdle over him and shot. Doesn't always work.
Why? Because the WC comp. always backslides you, and may clear the ball on the line by backsliding.

northview
09-12-1999, 04:58:PM
Good stuff guys! I see from the way you are playing that I can do better on markings on corners/free-kicks, which should raise my W/L-percentage,

Here is my tip for creating a great scoring opportunity in WC mode:
Play 4-3-3 with one of the strikers slightly deeper than the other two, then execute the following play pattern:
When in possession of the ball on your own half, pass to an unmarked player near the midfield circle (use shield to prevent getting tackled, if necessary). Then in quick succession do the following: play the ball diagonallyalong the pitch (not in the air!) to one of your flank midfielders, press x and forward directional button before he receives the ball, he then passes to the winger, again press x and directional button pointing infield before the winger gets the ball, then finally press o and directional buttons pointing towards the corners of the goal before the central striker receives the ball. This will make the striker playing slightly deep fire a fine shot goalwards (make sure he has got a 6 or 7 shooting ability), he will either score or you will win a corner (another good scoring opportunity if you use icon plays wisely).

The important thing here is to play the pattern very fast so that you will not get tackled even if a defender is close.

london
10-12-1999, 01:09:AM
Here's an interesting tid-bit. If you can a player into the box with the ball and do a 360, you can normally draw a penalty off one of the defenders as they usually slide tackle you. The only downside is that you have time it right or the opposition just takes the ball off of you.

fifa99_expert
10-12-1999, 04:10:AM
Has anyone noticed how the referee issues OFFSIDES?

It seems that offsides are not issued correctly. When the striker is way offside, and gets the ball through a cross, the referee doesn't issue an offsides sometimes....

That was what happened when I won Brazil using Arsenal, 12-1... That was how they got the 1... through an obvious offside that wasn't penalised.

When you are obviously onside, you are sometimes issued offsides.......
bad bug

[This message has been edited by fifa99_expert (edited 12-10-1999).]

fifa99_expert
11-12-1999, 04:22:AM
If you skimmy just before the keeper, he would be confused and you can just kick the ball, ensuring a goal.

Does any one know which file in the FIFA2000 folder is the main menu background and how to edit it?

ManUDevil
11-12-1999, 06:22:AM
The bets result I've got was 8-1 against Plamerias with Manchester United. I scored 4 goals off of 3 free kicks and 2 of them went off of the goalie. Not a very good computer A.I.

fifa99_expert
12-12-1999, 10:29:AM
Is there any more COMMAND wingers run up or down the flank by pressing 'x' like in FIFA 99.... for FIFA 2000?

Fat Bhoy Tim
12-12-1999, 01:04:PM
Okay for the un-initiated.

IF you can't header it in use the side foot shot.

Run either straight at the keeper throught the centre of the box....or at an angle and side foot shot it...
95% chance of scoring
I miss hardly any...and the follow ups are easy if you miss

Have fun