View Full Version : Whos the F***CKING CHAMPION NOW !!!?? Boca Juniors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Marty
14-12-2003, 07:10:PM
BOCA JUNIORS WORLD PLANET CHAMPIONS FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/

Ruben Sosa
14-12-2003, 07:11:PM
World Planet Champions? :confused:

Punkt
14-12-2003, 07:13:PM
Why world champions? they won the Toyota Cup just that...

Velvet
14-12-2003, 07:13:PM
:funny:

Congrats :)

Haukur Gudnason
14-12-2003, 07:15:PM
seedorf missed again and that costacurta peno was so soft my nan would have done better in a wheelchair

but i exaggerate :D

soccerbest
14-12-2003, 07:16:PM
Poor penalty kick by Pirlo..
Seedof blast the ball over the ball..
and then...terrible terrible penalty kick by Costacuta...

nervous breakdown by Milan players...:confused:

-William-
14-12-2003, 07:17:PM
Originally posted by Punkt
Why world champions? they won the Toyota Cup just that...
arent they ? They one vs. the best team in Europe that is better than any team in Asia or Africa

Punkt
14-12-2003, 07:18:PM
Where are the african, asian and north american teams in that cup?? so they aren't world champions...

Ruben Sosa
14-12-2003, 07:20:PM
:rolleyes:

dobrin1980
14-12-2003, 07:20:PM
I knew this game will finish with penalty shootout. Anway, congrats to Boca!!! I dislike ugly playing Milan. Naaah, they are lucky drawing Sparta Prague.:kader:

-William-
14-12-2003, 07:25:PM
Originally posted by Punkt
Where are the african, asian and north american teams in that cup?? so they aren't world champions...
oh ok lets put it this way, Boca were the best team in South America and Milan the best team in Europe, and Boca beat the best team in Europe so they are the best team between Europe/S.America and Mexico , and thats what counts

superfedeleo
14-12-2003, 07:27:PM
Go Boca GO!!!!!
Forza Inter!

Ruben Sosa
14-12-2003, 07:29:PM
Originally posted by -William-
... so they are the best team between Europe/S.America and Mexico...

Why not just say Latin America?

Marty
14-12-2003, 07:29:PM
Well the best teams are in fact South american and European so Boca Junoirs are the world champions

Punkt
14-12-2003, 07:31:PM
Originally posted by -William-
oh ok lets put it this way, Boca were the best team in South America and Milan the best team in Europe, and Boca beat the best team in Europe so they are the best team between Europe/S.America and Mexico , and thats what counts

now it's correct. :p i just told that they aren't world champions because i don't like that toughts who think that the football only exists in europe and south america... ;) i agree with a true World Cup for clubs of all continents...

Fernandez
14-12-2003, 07:33:PM
seedorf will never take penalties again :D

Ruben Sosa
14-12-2003, 07:34:PM
Originally posted by Punkt
now it's correct. :p i just told that they aren't world champions because i don't like that toughts who think that the football only exists in europe and south america... ;) i agree with a true World Cup for clubs of all continents...

Well then, we need a new one, because no one takes the World Club Cup seriously. (:/)

Punkt
14-12-2003, 07:35:PM
Originally posted by Marty
Well the best teams are in fact South american and European so Boca Junoirs are the world champions

the best teams are which that win in the field. if only european and south american play for this cup and the others not have opportunity to try it's unfair... i know that europeans and latin-americans are superior but they have to show it on the field. just that.

LOCOlombia
14-12-2003, 07:36:PM
what you're saying is true, but congrats to Boca anyway...:)

Punkt
14-12-2003, 07:38:PM
Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
Well then, we need a new one, because no one takes the World Club Cup seriously. (:/)

that is the problem. the World Club Cup was the true tournament to give the title of "World Champion" and not the Toyota Cup with just one game...

mhflierman
14-12-2003, 07:41:PM
There is already a thread about this useless cup.

-William-
14-12-2003, 07:42:PM
Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
Why not just say Latin America?
Because then he would say that there arent any teams from: Costa Rica, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc...

Marty
14-12-2003, 07:53:PM
Well lets just put it this way how someone mentioned before WE BEAT THE BEST CLUB IN THE WORLD. so I guess Boca Juniors is the best club in the world

RUSI
14-12-2003, 08:00:PM
BOCA JUNIORS - Best Team in the World !!!:rockman:

HellsideUltras
14-12-2003, 08:54:PM
why do europeans say this cup is useless and dont care about it, because im sure if they get their ass handed to them and lose by a 5 to 0 score line or more then im sure they would get some heat for their poor performance

eventhough they say its not an important cup:kader: :kader:

Áļéאָ
14-12-2003, 09:22:PM
It's not an important cup. Like it or not...it's not

RUSI
14-12-2003, 09:24:PM
^^^B U L L S H I T^^^

SB9Dragon
14-12-2003, 09:25:PM
Great victory for Boca Juniors over my heated rival AC MERDA!!!!!!!!!! Fantastic when South America shows that it can take out a Euro team, even if it seems they lack the big names :rockman:

HellsideUltras
14-12-2003, 09:29:PM
Personally i think you can call them world club champions because they deserve to be called that much more than porfessional teams in america who calls themselves world champs

Hugo-45-Viana
14-12-2003, 09:32:PM
Thanks for ruining the result for me...


















ASS!:kader:

Lennon
14-12-2003, 09:34:PM
HAHAHA Grande Boca!!!

YEAH,BRING THE DAMN CUP BACK TO SOUTH AMERICA, WHERE IT BELONGS!! :bouncy: :rockman:

Congrats to all Boca fans, this is a great win for the history of the team, they really deserve this. Carlos Bianchi is a genious seriously.

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/2003/photos/1214/a_pato_ht.jpg

LOCOlombia
14-12-2003, 09:36:PM
Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
Thanks for ruining the result for me...


















ASS!:kader:

if you didn't see it live, then you shouldn't have came into the forums, cause someone was gonna post about as soon as the match was over....

HellsideUltras
14-12-2003, 09:42:PM
lol at hugo. But why isnt this cup not so important?? Its for bragging rights and it has lots of history behind it so i dont see why its not important. Just because european top teams says its not important that dont mean nothing! WHO CARES WHAT THEY THINK ANYWAYS :mrpimp:

Lennon
14-12-2003, 09:45:PM
Of course it's important. If you win this cup you enter your name in soccer history as the best team in the world for the year you won (although only teams from SA and europe compete)
The winner also gets something like $2 millions, and that's "important" for any club out there.
Also this match is watched my millions of people around the world, it's just the european teams that create an excuse saying that this is not very important in case they lose against SA teams

Hugo-45-Viana
14-12-2003, 09:54:PM
Originally posted by LOCOlombia
if you didn't see it live, then you shouldn't have came into the forums, cause someone was gonna post about as soon as the match was over....
It's a known rule or at least a friendly rule that jackasses shouldn't make posts with THREAD NAMES which reveal a result.:rolleyes:

Lennon
14-12-2003, 09:58:PM
Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
It's a known rule or at least a friendly rule that jackasses shouldn't make posts with THREAD NAMES which reveal a result.:rolleyes:

you didn't see the game yet? :confused:

LOCOlombia
14-12-2003, 09:59:PM
Originally posted by Hugo-45-Viana
It's a known rule or at least a friendly rule that jackasses shouldn't make posts with THREAD NAMES which reveal a result.:rolleyes:

that's true tho...too bad.

shokz
14-12-2003, 10:12:PM
http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/ap_photo/20031214/all/l1000841.jpg

The man on the left must have bad bio, look at the armpit stains :p

LOCOlombia
14-12-2003, 10:15:PM
drunk by 5.00 am? :kader:

pasion1
14-12-2003, 11:09:PM
Woa woa.......I dont know about the Benfica Fan......(which they did beat Penarol in 87 for this title) or any other guy.....but Boca ARE THE WORLD CHAMPIONS.
They are the greatest team in the World. Thats what this Cup is for. They are working on something to add asian teams and african (w/ North American). But until then.....Boca are the World Champions.

This is SOOO not a worth less cup. Just look at the Celebrations throughout all of Argentina and tell them theyve won nothing. All of Latin America woke up to watch this game and are Celebrating (in Uruguay and Brazil there must be thousands in the streets right now).

not only did Boca win that for Argentina.....but brought back the long "lost" prestige that South America once had over Europe.
Also Boca/Milan was VERY symbolic as both were considered the equals of the continents (similar identity as MAJOR fanbased teams with history and toughness).

Boca really won it all and are best team on earth. period.

Grande Boca!

VanTheMan
15-12-2003, 12:06:AM
congrats!
milan learn alot from this one

::shinji::
15-12-2003, 12:16:AM
Originally posted by pasion1
Woa woa.......I dont know about the Benfica Fan......(which they did beat Penarol in 87 for this title) or any other guy.....but Boca ARE THE WORLD CHAMPIONS.




that was Porto..

Virgo
15-12-2003, 12:25:AM
This was the one of the most boring games ever IMO, even more boring than the CL final and that's hard.

MarcoCanada
15-12-2003, 12:28:AM
Originally posted by Virgo
even more boring than the CL final and that's hard.

are you aware of what your saying? The CL final was the most spineless affair in the history of mankind. Hell, it made the French look brave.

Áļéאָ
15-12-2003, 12:54:AM
Originally posted by rusi_88
^^^B U L L S H I T^^^

bul****...not

#1 Stunna
15-12-2003, 02:25:AM
Originally posted by -William-
...Boca beat the best team in Europe so they are the best team between Europe/S.America and Mexico

u can take Mexico out of there...not cuz they're not worthy, but because even if a Mexican club wins the Copa Libertadores...they're not allowed to play the Intercontinental Cup.

ninobomba
15-12-2003, 02:38:AM
u can take Mexico out of there...not cuz they're not worthy, but because even if a Mexican club wins the Copa Libertadores...they're not allowed to play the Intercontinental Cup



are you serious ! woah


well if mexico wins the libertadores it will be kinda funny

they should add mexico to the banner of the libertadores

HellsideUltras
15-12-2003, 02:42:AM
y cant they play for the intercontinental cup Stunna??

Lennon
15-12-2003, 02:50:AM
Originally posted by HellsideUltras
y cant they play for the intercontinental cup Stunna??

I'm not sunna, but I can answer: because the copa Libertadores is a conmebol tournament; Mexican teams are part of concacaf and they participate as guests of the libertadores

vze4b78y
15-12-2003, 02:51:AM
because intercontinental cup is SOUTH AMERICAN and european cup.

#1 Stunna
15-12-2003, 02:57:AM
Originally posted by vze4b78y
because intercontinental cup is SOUTH AMERICAN and european cup.

the intercontinental cup is described as the cup between the winner of the Champions League and the winner of the Copa Libertadores.

So why the hell shouldnt a Mexican club be allowed to play it if they win?

2 years ago when the Libertadores final was Cruz Azul (MEX) vs Boca Juniors...Bayern Munich (that year CL winners) said that if Cruz Azul won they wanted to play them because Cruz Azul would've been the best club from this side of the world...but CONMEBOL said no. Though in the end Boca beat Cruz Azul in penalties.

Lennon
15-12-2003, 03:02:AM
yeah I remember in 2002 all the people in paraguay wanted America to win in the semi-final against Sao Caetano, so if Olimpia lost the final against america, they still had a trip to Japan because America is mexican

pasion1
15-12-2003, 03:33:AM
im pretty sure that i heard that they changed that this year. I think mexico protested this.

Lean
15-12-2003, 04:32:AM
Maybe because Libertadores is a south american competition since it's roots, and they just decided to invite mexican teams for a change. Of course i can be completely wrong. If i'm right, its the same as Brazil winning the Gold Cup, we're not going to say we're the best in CONCACAF...:rolleyes: Now, to the real deal... first thing i have to say is that i'm a Milan fan, i like them, although they play boring football. 2nd thing is that i just cant stand the fact people say its useless. Damnit, it's the better south american team against the best european team, it's worth a lot of money and the stadium is filled. When the south american sides loses it you can see players crying. Its not useless, and if you saw the sh!tface that at least half of the team made (i'm talking about Milan) after the decision, especially Sheva and Kaka, you can see players were taking the game seriously. If you look at a different way, it was the pride of europeans against south americans, i dont look it that way but lots of people do. For me, that's bullsh!t, or better, europeans can use the excuse it's useless and they didnt won it because of that. Like it or not, it's SILVERWARE. There isnt USELESS SILVERWARE. Face it. And to finish my thoughts here, i just want to say that if it depended on me, Seedorf would be out of the door. Really, if you guys payed attention, right after he loss the penalty, he was smiling. Fvcking smiling. He missed and he smiled about it, ironically or not, if i was the manager i would give him a kick on the ass, because of this and also because he's overrated and arrogant for me.

Lennon
15-12-2003, 04:34:AM
yeah Seedorf is a dumbass, if I were a Milan fan I would hit him on the face

Lean
15-12-2003, 04:38:AM
Originally posted by Lennon
yeah Seedorf is a dumbass, if I were a Milan fan I would hit him on the face
And the funny thing is that i saw an interview with him on Sportscenter at ESPN here in Brazil saying that it would be a important game for Milan and that they could make history and things like that. After that he just misses a penalty by a mile and starts to smile about it...:crazyboy: Moron.

ogsimon
15-12-2003, 04:38:AM
Boca Juniours i salute u:Bow:

LOCOlombia
15-12-2003, 04:39:AM
Originally posted by #1 Stunna
u can take Mexico out of there...not cuz they're not worthy, but because even if a Mexican club wins the Copa Libertadores...they're not allowed to play the Intercontinental Cup.

well it would be like if a South American invitee won the Gold Cup, like stated before my post, they wouldn't allow a CONMEBOL country to take their place, at the confederations cup, cause it has to be the best of CONCACAF, even if they got second place...same thing in Copa Libertadores, it has to be a representative from CONMEBOL.

Run DMB
15-12-2003, 09:20:AM
Originally posted by Marty
BOCA JUNIORS WORLD PLANET CHAMPIONS FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/
Thanks for spoiling the game for me and the other members of SG who watched the game on tape delay. :rolleyes:

In the future try not to reveal the score in the title of your threads. And put an [R] whenever you have the game's result inside your thread as well.

Congrats to Boca on winning the intercontinental cup but they're not world champions. Until there's a World Club Cup established, there won't be a world club champion.

Oh and yeah - try to be more considerate next time, dipsh*t.

:kader:

Pferd
15-12-2003, 09:32:AM
i thought there was a world club championship.

anyway they should have that transatlantic cup like back in the day wit the nasl

Bobby
15-12-2003, 09:39:AM
Didn't beat world beating giants Yeovil Town...don't give me this world champion stuff until you go into the fortress known as Huish Park and come out with a win. :kader:

Run DMB
15-12-2003, 09:45:AM
Originally posted by Pferd
i thought there was a world club championship.

anyway they should have that transatlantic cup like back in the day wit the nasl
To the best of my knowledge there was one some time ago and I haven't heard anything about another one in the plans for the future.

#1 Stunna
15-12-2003, 09:52:AM
Originally posted by Run DMB
...I haven't heard anything about another one in the plans for the future.

didnt they say that the 2005 one was gonna be in either USA or Mexico? :confused:

Punkt
15-12-2003, 08:20:PM
Originally posted by #1 Stunna
didnt they say that the 2005 one was gonna be in either USA or Mexico? :confused:


It will be in Germany in 2005.

valioso
15-12-2003, 09:01:PM
so people actually do care about this trophy?

#1 Stunna
15-12-2003, 09:13:PM
Originally posted by Punkt
It will be in Germany in 2005.

i actually like that instead of it being held in the US or Mexico...since my fav club is gonna be in it, it'll be cool to see them play in Germany. :D

shokz
15-12-2003, 09:15:PM
Originally posted by Punkt
It will be in Germany in 2005.

FIFA World Club Cup is coming back?. :confused:

Fernandez
15-12-2003, 09:24:PM
wowch :) link please? :p

#1 Stunna
15-12-2003, 09:26:PM
Originally posted by Fernandez
wowch :) link please? :p

heres on for a Brazilian website....you can understand the title. I didnt understand all of it, but i did most of it since its sort of like Spanish. :D

http://ibest.estadao.com.br/esportes/noticias/2003/nov/29/53.htm

Lean
15-12-2003, 10:22:PM
Originally posted by valioso
so people actually do care about this trophy?
Everyone in god damn America cares, except for North America because they dont get a shot of participating. It looks like mexican teams will get to travel to Yokohama if they win the Libertadores next years. And a lot of people in Europe cares, if you looked at the face of the Milanese players, like Kaka, Sheva, Inzaghi, Pancaro and some others you would realize. For me, to say that this trophy is worthless, is plain bullcrap, arrogance, or an excuse for losing it. Not saying that anyone here is arrogant, but Seedorf sounds like he doesnt give a sh!t to the trophy, especially when he misses a penalty and starts to smile, and right after that, he raises his head and starts to walk like he's the king of the world.

Bobby
16-12-2003, 10:28:AM
Really...unless teams from all federations play, it's not a true world title.

Cause anyone can beat anyone on there day, and with luck.

valioso
16-12-2003, 11:21:AM
Originally posted by Grunger0x
Everyone in god damn America cares, except for North America because they dont get a shot of participating. It looks like mexican teams will get to travel to Yokohama if they win the Libertadores next years. And a lot of people in Europe cares, if you looked at the face of the Milanese players, like Kaka, Sheva, Inzaghi, Pancaro and some others you would realize. For me, to say that this trophy is worthless, is plain bullcrap, arrogance, or an excuse for losing it. Not saying that anyone here is arrogant, but Seedorf sounds like he doesnt give a sh!t to the trophy, especially when he misses a penalty and starts to smile, and right after that, he raises his head and starts to walk like he's the king of the world.

I am neither a Milan or Boca fan.. the champions league and the domestic league title are more important than the "Toyota Cup"

Punkt
16-12-2003, 02:20:PM
Originally posted by shokz
FIFA World Club Cup is coming back?. :confused:

yes. blatter have annouced but UEFA didn't confirmed yet his presence but i made a mistake. Germany will host the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2005 not the World Club Cup.;)

Ruben Sosa
16-12-2003, 08:33:PM
Quite right, all the football Confederations should be represented in a cup in order for the title of World Champions to be accurate, but due to the absence of such a tournament it means the Intercontinental Cup is the World Cup for Clubs and as such gives the title of World Champions.

In fact, I think that when the first Intercontinental Cup was organized (1960), the only football Federations that had a continental tournament were South America and UEFA.

What has to be done is organize a new tournament for the winner of each Confederation to participate in. 6 teams, divided into 2 groups of 3, winners of each group play for the title. Simple and short. If taken seriously (by this I mean if the European representative takes its first team) it could be quite entertaining.

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
anyone can beat anyone on there day, and with luck.

By this reasoning every game of every competition should be replayed at least 3 or 4 times just to make sure the victorious team really is superior and deserves the win.

#1 Stunna
16-12-2003, 08:39:PM
Originally posted by Punkt
yes. blatter have annouced but UEFA didn't confirmed yet his presence but i made a mistake. Germany will host the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2005 not the World Club Cup.;)

Punkt...you're Portuguese....doesnt this say that Germany will host the 2005 World Club Cup?

http://ibest.estadao.com.br/esportes/noticias/2003/nov/29/53.htm

Punkt
16-12-2003, 10:38:PM
Originally posted by #1 Stunna
Punkt...you're Portuguese....doesnt this say that Germany will host the 2005 World Club Cup?

http://ibest.estadao.com.br/esportes/noticias/2003/nov/29/53.htm

yes. according to this site is in Germany. So what i've said firstly is right. ;) . The article says that the tournament will have 16 teams and will be held every two years. Blatter said that FIFA chosed Germany because they want to test the World Cup stadiums. The cup starts at 15th July and ends in 28th July...

Nirvana
17-12-2003, 01:20:AM
congratulations to all boca fans!!! :rockman:

The game wasn't too good, buy the importatn thing is tha boca won :)

#1 Stunna
17-12-2003, 02:11:AM
Originally posted by Punkt
yes. according to this site is in Germany. So what i've said firstly is right. ;) . The article says that the tournament will have 16 teams and will be held every two years. Blatter said that FIFA chosed Germany because they want to test the World Cup stadiums. The cup starts at 15th July and ends in 28th July...

i'll probably be one of the few fans waiting for this cup to start...I've never seen Toluca play outside of the CONCACAF region, and since we are the CONCACAF champions, its gonna be cool seeing them play other great clubs in some great World Cup stadiums. :D

Lean
17-12-2003, 05:08:AM
Originally posted by valioso
I am neither a Milan or Boca fan.. the champions league and the domestic league title are more important than the "Toyota Cup"
Of course dude, but for South Americans it means the ultimate glory. And it's not useless, even to europeans.

northstar
17-12-2003, 12:04:PM
Fact is if Milan won, they could say they one more trophys. They lose, they say who cares it was just a meaningless trophy. It was a draw anyways. Awarded on PK...PK is ****e.

Lean
17-12-2003, 09:54:PM
For me it's not meaningless and i'm a milanista. But i guess you're talking about the team, not the fans..;)

LOCOlombia
17-12-2003, 10:22:PM
Originally posted by northstar
Fact is if Milan won, they could say they one more trophys. They lose, they say who cares it was just a meaningless trophy. It was a draw anyways. Awarded on PK...PK is ****e.

still they lost, no one likes to lose :)