My parents just came back from Mexico, and seeing that my uncle and my cousins say that USA is the terrorist, they sent me a news article from Mexico. The news article explains the war on terror and the an author name Labeviere.

So googled up Labeviere, and I found out an article aswell as the article from the Mexican newspaper, about Osama bin laden receiving health care for his kidney problem and about meeting with the CIA.


http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Bin-Laden-Met-CIA.htm


Is it that this War on Terror a fake one?

Do you think its ridiculous?? But yet how can we asses the validity of the information the USA throws out to the people??


Personally, I just don't know who to trust :|

I'd expect that most Americans think the CIA is shady, and I doubt they would trust information coming from them.

some people even say that CIA gives Osama all the weaponary he needs because without him, America couldnt have started any of this..

Osama is a CIA stooge from waaaay back. He is a creation of the CIA, much as Saddam was. The connections between the Bin Laden family and the Bush family are well documented. And the fact is, it would not be a good thing for Osama to be caught.

Why? Because to sustain the war on terror, you need the ever present threat of the bogeyman. Just like Cuba were useful as the bogeyman of communism, on the doorstep of the US.
ffs, if they were serious about the threat of communism, what stopped them from taking Castro out. Not like it would be hard or anything. Invade Cuba and take over. Then they could use the whole island as an illegal prison for free, not just one small section they have to rent.

If Osama is caught, then who will replace him as the 'face' of evil that sustains the propaganda war. Look over the last 20 years or so. We have had Gaddafi, we have had Noriega, we have had Saddam, we have had the Ayatollah, we have had Osama....

The war on terror is just the war on drugs, part 2. The mobilisation for a perpetual war that has no 'endpoint', and can be used to justify a whole range of measures that are about one thing: control - control of labour, control of capital, control of resources, control of minds.

Welcome to the century of fascism.

Enjoy your code orange alerts or whatever, buy your duct tape, polish your gun, stock up on your canned goods, wave the flag....

And most importantly folks...

Feel the fear.

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
some people even say that CIA gives Osama all the weaponary he needs because without him, America couldnt have started any of this..

The USA gave Osama weapons in the 1980s when the USSR invaded Afghanistan I believe.....

There are direct historical links between Osama bin Laden's business interests and those of the Bush family. On September 15 I received the following message from FTW subscriber, Professor John Metzger of Michigan State University:

"We should revisit the history of BCCI, a bank used by the legendary Palestinian terrorist known as Abu Nidal. BCCI was closely tied to American and Pakistan intelligence. Its clients included the Afghan rebels, and the father of Osama bin Laden. The father of bin Laden named Houston investment broker James R. Bath as his business representative in Texas, right after George W. Bush's father became CIA director in 1976. By 1977, Bath invested $50,000 into junior's first business, Arbusto Energy, while Osama bin Laden would soon become a CIA asset. George W. Bush's FBI director Robert Mueller was part of the Justice Department's questionable investigation of BCCI. (On BCCI, the bin Ladens, and the Bushes, see the books, The Outlaw Bank, A Full Service Bank, and Fortunate Son)." Further details of the business and financial relationships between the Bush and bin Laden family are found in Peter Brewton's 1992 book The Mafia, CIA and George Bush. BCCI, incidentally, was founded by a Pakistani.

Economics Professor Michel Chossudovsky of the University of Ottawa has just completed a detailed history of bin Laden's career detailing his secret funding and logistical support to terrorist organizations beginning from his early CIA-supported roots in the 1980s as a "freedom fighter" through to the present day. Chossudovsky's compelling and well documented article, Who Is Osama Bin Laden? dated Sept 12, 2001 can be found on the Internet at: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html.

Bin Laden's role has not just been as a practitioner of terrorist acts but as a trainer and supplier of terrorist organizations around the world. Included in bin Laden's coterie are terrorist groups linked to the Balkans, Albania, the KLA (a U.S. ally), and rebel groups leading the insurrection against Russia in Chechnya.

As FTW described in 1998, and as confirmed by Chossudovsky, the key to understanding U.S. support of bin Laden is to grasp that he has always been controlled by a cutout, the Pakistani government and its intelligence service the ISI. In this manner there has been virtually no direct contact between bin Laden and the CIA. This has served the dual purpose of maintaining his apparent "purity" with his followers and providing plausible deniability for the CIA. The whole underlying pretext for this relationship evaporated with the Taliban's destruction of the opium crop in February.

Chossudovsky writes:

"The history of the drug trade in Central Asia is intimately related to the CIA's covert operations. Prior to the Soviet-Afghan war, opium production in Afghanistan and Pakistan was directed to small regional markets. There was no local production of heroin. In this regard [Professor] Alfred McCoy's study confirms that within two years of the onslaught of the CIA operation in Afghanistan, 'the Pakistan-Afghanistan borderlands became the world's top heroin producer, supplying 60 per sent of the U.S. demand…

"With the disintegration of the Soviet Union, a new surge in opium production has unfolded. (According to UN estimates, the production of opium in Afghanistan in 1998-99 -- coinciding with the build up of armed insurgencies in the former Soviet republics -- reached a record high of 4600 metric tons. Powerful business syndicates in the former Soviet Union allied with organized crime are competing for the strategic control over the heroin routes.

"The ISI's extensive intelligence military-network was not dismantled in the wake of the Cold War. The CIA continued to support the Islamic "jihad" out of Pakistan…"

"… The Golden Crescent drug trade was also being used to finance and equip the Bosnian Muslim Army (starting in the early 1990s) and the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA). In the last few months there is evidence that Mujhideen mercenaries are fighting in the ranks of the KLA-NLA terrorists in their assaults into Macedonia…

"… With regard to Chechnya, the main rebel leaders Shamil Basayev and Al Khattab were trained and indoctrinated in CIA sponsored camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan… In this regard, the involvement of Pakistan's ISI and its radical Islamic proxies are actually calling the shots in this war.

"Russia's main pipeline route transits through Chechnya and Dagestan. Despite Washington's perfunctory condemnation of Islamic terrorism, the indirect beneficiaries of the Chechen war are the Anglo-American oil conglomerates which are vying for control over oil resources and pipeline corridors out of the Caspian Sea basin."

The oil and drug connections were the subject of FTW's story, The Bush-Cheney drug Empire in October, 2000. That story is online at http://www.copvcia.com/stories/previous/bush-cheney-drugs.html. Both Bush and Cheney are oil men.

George Bush, Sr. was Vice President and, by virtue of executive Order 12333, in charge of all U.S. intelligence and narcotics operations from 1981 through 1989. As President from 1989 through 1993, he continued and expanded his control in these areas. Thus, it was Bush (the elder) who directly nourished and nurtured bin Laden's evolution.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4262511,00.html

i think it's rediculous :|

Osama looks like a dwarf!.

Hey, stop giving the dwarfs a bad name... He looks like a smurf.

I dont think the USA will ever find Osama Bin Laden. While most of the men around saddam were afraid or greedy, Osama presents himself as a "freedom fighter" what people see of him is a pious old muslim man, after nothing more than to help is muslim brothers fight against the infidels, which is appealing to EVERY muslim. Any muslim no matter what side of the spectrum he or she may be on likes the idea of a Saladin for the 21st cent.

Thats the key, a supporter can just as easily deny an accusation that Osamas group steals and sells little kids as an opponent can bring it up. Thats the key, you wont find many locals in afganistan that will give him up. Why would the US expect the locals to give up the man that says he is out to get there freedom, to the very infidels Osama vows to set them free from? and that has been my rant for the day.

Originally posted by shokz
Osama looks like a dwarf!.

he's like 6'3 :brow:

If all this stuff is true... I bet they will :drevil: "find" him a month before the election :brow:

Originally posted by MastaLFC
he's like 6'3 :brow:

If all this stuff is true... I bet they will :drevil: "find" him a month before the election :brow:


LOL, yea and the dumb people re-elect him :funny: :funny: :funny:



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Originally posted by rpvankasteren
Hey, stop giving the dwarfs a bad name... He looks like a smurf.

http://proboards8.com/boardimages/avatars/smurfs.gif

believe what you want to believe, I will just continue to post truth.

i cant really say i believe it

i cant relly say i beleive it

Osama is meaningless. Another pawn in the economic war games.

Belief? What do you believe when it is impossible to decipher truth from bias, propaganda and conflicts of interest.

What is this double post thread?