...for Chelsea

Once again Uniteds legendary transfer negiotating skills strike again, well played...

Incompetent pricks

wtf??????


source? integrity?

giv us a source mate

omg are u kidding me here?

He is going to earn 100k € a week. PSV gets 20 million for the transfer:p

But why does he have to go to Chelsea (N) Arjen, you dissapointed me

http://www.vi.nl/vi/show/id=62802/contentid=57427/sc=fb739c

http://www.vi.nl

For 5 years, apparantly one of the highest earners now. So much for his morals when talking about signing for United. He wanted 40 odd games a season at United and we offered him that. Now he'll go Chelsea and play half of that with him and Duff rotating, oh well...

United only have themselves to blame for this, should've been done and dusted in the winter transfer window but they ****ed it up again...

Suppose they may look at bringing in Van Der Vaart or the recently linked Tevez, hopefully...

I swear to god, this club's transfer dealings will be the undoing of us...

Theres nothing on the Chelsea Website.

It's on Radio 5 live now...

ahahah those comments he made about never joining Chelsea no matter what was the money, get him to rank up as one of the biggest a*sholes around.

What a prick.


Remember EVERYONE can be bought.

Makes me wonder if Manchester United have turned there attention to Carlos Tevez(best young player in the world)

:p

Originally posted by shokz
Makes me wonder if Manchester United have turned there attention to Carlos Tevez(best young player in the world)

:p
I hope so, he's damn cool. He has that tough guy look, with that chipped tooth and scar on his neck.(H) Perfect to spice up those Arse vs Manu derbies.:hump:

Ssshhh.... Don't tell Chelsea, they'll sign him ;)

I'm not overly fussed, if he chose money over United I couldn't care less about him. Ok, he's a great prospect but there are plenty more and I should expect United will now set their sights on signing a player like Van Der Vaart, Tevez (Work Permit permitting), Rosicky, Deco etc...

The only thing which disappoints me is Uniteds total incompetence in signing players. Also thought that Robben had settled on joining for United, perhaps the only way United will be able to compete with Chelsea when trying to sign the same player. Morality goes out of the window when money comes in to things. It's his choice and a bad one, I expect many of you guys agree (even people who hate United) because I can't see him progressing as footballer like he could've done at United.

Originally posted by manufan
I hope so, he's damn cool. He has that tough guy look, with that chipped tooth and scar on his neck.(H) Perfect to spice up those Arse vs Manu derbies.:hump:

Like Bobby told me, he's ugly enough to steal Keown's crown, which is a plus. (H)

But...what about Frank Jeffers? Is he Jeffers ugly?

You'd beat Arsenal in ugliness at least, Tevez is uglier than Keown :p

He's one of the ugliest players i have seen.


I hope we go for Van der Vaart. Having another left footer to could do us some good.

Originally posted by Virgo
You'd beat Arsenal in ugliness at least, Tevez is uglier than Keown :p

I myself have got a scar(although its no longer visible) on my neck, If only I had a chipped tooth, I would jump on Keown's back myself and byte him. :f***:

(H)

:o Man Utd already are the ugliest

They just loan Chadwick out to hide it. :kader:

Its all about the money. :kader:

i think teves will stay at boca for one more season. imo u need to strengthen in the attacking mid area. van der vaart maybe, but if barca want him he wil probably go there

martin wont like all the hegative feedback he is recievinghttp://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2003/10/03/two.gif

Barça doesn't need VDV, they need a poacher

United should sign Trabelsi first and foremost, easier said then done in United's case. A player who can cross a ball is a another must. Ronaldo can play left wing effectively, so losing out on Robben isn't that bad.

Would be nice to see someone as good as Joaquin or Van Der Vaart arrive in the Summer.

Tevez might not do well in EPL...lots of players (i.e. Parlour, Keown) and teams (i.e. Arsenal, Leeds) don't take kindly to trickery....Ask Ronaldo what Keown said to him, he's lucky he didn't know English at that time.

I think Chelsea want Trabelsi aswell as a replacement for Melchiot who's contract expires at the end of this season.


:f***:

ANYONE but Chelsea

Once you've played against Argentinian defenders week in and week out, I'm sure he'd be able to adapt to the Premiership.

The problem with Tevez is getting a work permit, I'm sure I read somewhere that he might be able to get a European passport because of his gran. No doubt if that's the case he'll be joining Chelsea as soon as United make an enquiry about him...

Any speculation I see linking United with a potential signing, I'll take with a pinch of salt, it's all hearsay as far as I'm concerned.

I would like to have Tevez more. But where would he play?
Robben has made a bad decision he's just another added to the chelsea midfield where they have plenty and still have Veron. But Man United should start linking themselves more with defenders rather than attackers. To me we got plenty in the midfield and forwards with Ole coming back.

So any Chelsea fans here?

Apparantly he's going to take the #11 shirt which as I'm sure you already know is currently occupied by Duff.

Personally I can't see Chelsea progressing as a team, when you bring in so many new players and give a new arrival the squad number of your joint best performing player (Duff & Lampard)...

I'm sure Duff will say something if Robben get his squad number. He's already commented about being rotated and I can't see him taking well to this. Perhaps other players considering a Chelsea move will see how ruthless they can be with their own players.

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
Tevez might not do well in EPL...lots of players (i.e. Parlour, Keown) and teams (i.e. Arsenal, Leeds) don't take kindly to trickery....Ask Ronaldo what Keown said to him, he's lucky he didn't know English at that time. Ronaldo could give a rats ass about Keown. Keown sucks.:crazyboy:
Keown is also an ARSEhole.


j/k

I've read that Chelsea and PSV signed an accord of collaboration. The Brazilian defender Alex will sign for PSV before to go to Chelsea and now this... now PSV sux too (Y)

Originally posted by Dream Team
I've read that Chelsea and PSV signed an accord of collaboration. The Brazilian defender Alex will sign for PSV before to go to Chelsea and now this... now PSV sux too (Y)
O MY F******* GOD Roman is going on a rampage and buying all the players in the world after not winning the epl.

Alex failed his medical, he had a knee operation 3 years ago and didn't tell anyone. Doesn't look like he'll be joining now.

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
Once you've played against Argentinian defenders week in and week out, I'm sure he'd be able to adapt to the Premiership. Couldn't the same thing have been said about good ol' Diego? Yes he's had his moments but he's struggled to adapt. IF we were to bring in Tevez, I would hope he could adapt to the style of play. He's an incredible talent.

Forget it, Tevez is ours. :hump:

Chelsea are gonna be fielding players like "Jones - 143" next year.

:(

First Ronaldinho now Robben, how many more big name CL winning players are Man Utd going to miss out on. Id choose United everytime over Chelsea and even Barcelona, but he is greedy.:kader:

Don't compare Tevez to Diego ;)

Tevez is on another planet in comparisson of talent and build. Tevez is in the Maradona mould in terms of build and he was one tough cookie.

I think Tevez would fit right in. Just look at Juninho, how well he's adapted to the English game. The thing with Forlan is that I would've never considored him a United quality player before we signed him.

I could see Tevez on the other hand being able to be up there with the likes of Law, Best, Edwards, Charlton, Cantona, Giggs, Keane as a United legend, if we were able to sign him.

Oh seriously dont talk like that MisH*The*Manc .

What've I said?

Do you not agree that Tevez is one of the best young players in the world? and that Forlan is a pile of gash?

They are saying on Sky Sports News that as part of the deal they are going to get either Hasselbaink, Zenden in return.

Ranieri don't have a clue on who to buy, Duff is a world class left winger now he goes out and get another, instead of getting a right winger:kader:

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
Don't compare Tevez to Diego ;)

Tevez is on another planet in comparisson of talent and build. Tevez is in the Maradona mould in terms of build and he was one tough cookie.

I think Tevez would fit right in. Just look at Juninho, how well he's adapted to the English game. The thing with Forlan is that I would've never considored him a United quality player before we signed him.

I could see Tevez on the other hand being able to be up there with the likes of Law, Best, Edwards, Charlton, Cantona, Giggs, Keane as a United legend, if we were able to sign him. My comment wasn't meant to really be a comparison but I agree with you, Tevez has the potential to be great. He'd be a great addition to the squad if we were able to bring him in now that we've lost Robben.

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
United should sign Trabelsi first and foremost, easier said then done in United's case. A player who can cross a ball is a another must. Ronaldo can play left wing effectively, so losing out on Robben isn't that bad.

Would be nice to see someone as good as Joaquin or Van Der Vaart arrive in the Summer.

Nah if Joaquin movies it will be to Real Madrid:mrpimp: :rockman: :hump:

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
What've I said?

Do you not agree that Tevez is one of the best young players in the world? and that Forlan is a pile of gash?
Yes i agree that he is one of the best young players in the world but i dont agree with you already comparing him to some legends when he hasnt even signed for Man United.

Robben picked Chelsea?? SH!T I wanted him at Inter :D

Oh well I guess our only chance was last season b4 Chelsea became freakin rich:rolleyes:

Though oh well.. there are a lot of good players still on the market and Chelsea can't sign them all (I hope) (H)

Originally posted by bbranco10
Yes i agree that he is one of the best young players in the world but i dont agree with you already comparing him to some legends when he hasnt even signed for Man United.

Does it matter? his gonna be great unless he breaks his legs or something else happens

Originally posted by bbranco10
Yes i agree that he is one of the best young players in the world but i dont agree with you already comparing him to some legends when he hasnt even signed for Man United.

I only said he has the potential to be up there. Which he does, because he'll be a world class player if he stays fit.

I think he'll sign for a German or Spanish team though. Joaquin will sign for Real but there's nothing wrong with being ambitious, especially with ambition lacking at United recently... :(

Baaaaaaah...I'm losing my patience......:kader: *bangs head against wall*

This club is so pussy in the transfer market, I'm sick of it now....

From Spain only Valencia would buy Tevez, I doubt it. Barça is looking for a striker but it must be from europe.

Sadly if we get rid of our current board that'll pave the way for Mcmanus and Magnier to take over the board. We know what there main incentive is, so it looks like we'll have to put up with this rubbish for a while longer. :|

DAMN WHAT THE HELL...

wasn't robben's dad totally against him going to chelsea? i remember he said something like "robben would rather play second team football at manchester united than play at chelsea..."

or some **** like that. i guess his dad doesn't really have much of an influence on him.

bah, money talks.

On all the news im getting, its saying the dutch media is saying he is moving. Not anything confirmed. It will be Man Utd's fault though, he was gonna take a pay cut to join man utd. Chelsea are gonna form some sort of a link up with PSV, thats too bad, i liked PSV aswell :(

well that guy had testicle cancer, didnt he? hope Chelsea has invested on a healthy player.

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
Would be nice to see someone as good as Joaquin or Van Der Vaart arrive in the Summer.

Joaquín=Madrid :mrpimp:

Originally posted by TottiNZidaneR#1
Does it matter? his gonna be great unless he breaks his legs or something else happens
yes it does, he doesnt deserved to be mentioned along with those players till he does something in europe. I agree he is a great player though.

Could be a United legend and is as good as a United legend are two different things.

So when people mention him in the same breath as Maradona, do you rubbish it straight away?

He has all the attributes to be one of the all time greats and early signs are very good, winning a 'best player of the year' award in South America is very impressive considering the sheer amount of talent which is produced in that continent

But Maradona did play for Boca and so does Tevez. Im trying to say he hasnt played for Man United yet. Yes he could be a Man United legend if he goes there. It was that easy. Maybe you misunderstood me.

No problems mate... I see what you're saying. Perhaps it looks like I'm getting a little ahead of myself. I was just saying that he's the kind of player United could do with, along with a defender or two.

Yeah are you south american or something for taking this Tevez thing like this. I overreact when people criticize C.Ronaldo or any portuguese player.lol(H)

Chelsea attempted to bid for Joaquin, too.

Joaquin will be a Madrid player, and Van der Vaart to Barca.

I'm from Manchester mate. I wouldn't criticize Cristiano with the performances he's been putting in recently, looking like he's playing for the shirt more with every game he plays.

Hopefully he'll adapt to England and stay with United for the best part of his career. We've got high hopes for him. :)

Saying that our most creative players are reaching their 30's and we can't expect Cristiano to take the whole creative burdon. A Tevez or Van Der Vaart would add that bit of creativity that United seem to have been lacking this season. No offence to Cristiano but I don't think anyone expected him to come in this season and replace Beckhams crosses and freekicks, early signs show that he'll be a special player when he matures. :)

Who cares if he signed for Chelsea. United made a huge mistake by not signing him, but they have investors to worry about and what not. Chelsea is going to offload MANY of their players over the summer. Think about the loaners they have out there, plus the dead weight on their own team.

Hasselbaink is gone, even though he's their best striker. Veron I think is gone, Petit? Zenden is at Middlesborough. Melchiot, gone. Who else did they sign? They should have one team for each competition. One for CL, Cups, and for the League.

Stupid Robben, he should have signed for Bayern. : )

I thought his dad said "over his dead body he would join Chelsea." And that "he'd rather play for Manchester United's reserves" or something to that extent.

(H)

Morals tend to go out of the window when money and the United transfer negotiating team are involved. :rolleyes:

****, another Dutch talent wasted in Chelski...

well, money solves everything

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=292971&cc=5739

"I think that I can become a better player at Chelsea and that I can develop myself into a top European player."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! :o

Originally posted by Voltaic Borusse
I thought his dad said "over his dead body he would join Chelsea." And that "he'd rather play for Manchester United's reserves" or something to that extent.

(H)

maybe his dad is now dead:D :rolleyes:

NO. NO. *in denial*
they have NOT closed the deal yet! gr...

GRRRRRRR!!!!!! Chelsea already signed Adu, although he wont go over until 3-4 years.

Robben told the club's official website: "I think I can become a better player at Chelsea and develop myself into a top European player."

http://www.sublimefootball.com/article.php?artid=2262


:confused: Maybe he has a fetish for bench warming...

Originally posted by Sky Reloaded
GRRRRRRR!!!!!! Chelsea already signed Adu, although he wont go over until 3-4 years. WHHHHAAAAAAAATTTTT?????? :eek: When did this happen? What's your source?

http://www.chelseafc.com/article.asp?id=188828 (H)(H)

Chelsea still haven't gotten Robben fully. Altough it seems to be almost complete. But if they get him, why the hell would United need a liar? The guy said that money won't buy him and he loves United, now as soon as Chelsea catch up with United in the league and United get troubles all round, he decides to change his mind and go to Chelsea. Well if he came to United and Manchester had bad times, he would have left almost immidiately. He doesn't want to come, then we don't need him. Let him enjoy the nice warm Chelsea bench.

I'm hoping United make a signing to shore up the backline

Originally posted by ManU2000
WHHHHAAAAAAAATTTTT?????? :eek: When did this happen? What's your source?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3107428.stm

:kader:

Originally posted by Sky Reloaded
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3107428.stm

:kader: Adu was just linked to a bid from Chelsea. Its nothing concrete so Chelsea didn't buy him. ;)

Originally posted by Sky Reloaded
GRRRRRRR!!!!!! Chelsea already signed Adu, although he wont go over until 3-4 years.


uhhhhhhhhhhh no

f*ck roman abromsakdjabitch!! :f***:

:kader:

Nope, no signing yet, but unless DC can cough up a big contract then Adu is coming over to Europe!

Originally posted by Sky Reloaded
Nope, no signing yet, but unless DC can cough up a big contract then Adu is coming over to Europe! He's the highest paid player in MLS. ;)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
[B]Ssshhh.... Don't tell Chelsea, they'll sign him ;)


meantion good and player around chelsea and they will buy them

I dunno, it says here he turned down bigger European offers to play in the US... but he sure was smart to snub Inter.

http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p1158.htm

Originally posted by Sky Reloaded
I dunno, it says here he turned down bigger European offers to play in the US... but he sure was smart to snub Inter.

http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p1158.htm Well, he's playing for his hometown team and he felt that he was too young to go abroad already. Besides, his mom wanted him to finish his education first and foremost so he's staying for the length of his contract, which is 5 years I believe, and then he'll go to Europe.

Originally posted by Sky Reloaded
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3107428.stm

:kader:

That linke was from September of last year. Since then Adu has signed with DC United of MLS and has no plans of moving abroad as of now.

Chelsea probably don't even scout players. When they hear United or Madrid are after someone, they seem to pop up into the picture.

Originally posted by Voltaic Borusse
Chelsea probably don't even scout players. When they hear United or Madrid are after someone, they seem to pop up into the picture.
:D

Oh BTW this was the original article I was talking about, I skimmed through that site and caught the WIN word so I thought it was a deal.

http://www.sublimefootball.com/article.php?artid=2152

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
But...what about Frank Jeffers? Is he Jeffers ugly?
(H)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?s=&postid=1131740

:rofl: :funny: :evil:

Originally posted by Voltaic Borusse
Chelsea probably don't even scout players. When they hear United or Madrid are after someone, they seem to pop up into the picture.

you said it.

If he does sign, Man Utd will just have to look for someone else. Someone for the defence would be nice. Tevez might also be a good buy.

:rofl: at the jeffers pic :rofl:

Originally posted by shokz
Makes me wonder if Manchester United have turned there attention to Carlos Tevez(best young player in the world)

:p

yes.i think fergie thought that the deal was broken.
so he has turned his attention towards tevez.just wonder if he can adapt to the epl?

as for robben.he seems to run after$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
chelsea now look pathetic the way they keep on signing innumerable players.
this is too much.how many mid's do they have now?

just wondering if chelsea go 3 years from now without a major trophy:rockman:

Have a great time in the reserves robben, seriously

chelsea are going to have problems developing players, they cant rotate every midfielder per game, this is what their midfield looks like

Duff, Parker, Lampard, Makelele, Gronkjaer, Veron, Stanic, Petit, Joe Cole,

You people can't look past the present can you? Seriously what a bunch of nobjockeys this forum is full of.

I would say that Stanic and Petit are on the way out and they have no body that can play on the left anyway


also i would say that the problem that they have is worse than the one u have in defense

Joe Cole may request to be transfer listed. He said he only started about 11 times this season and got subbed every single match.

100

[+1] :mrpimp:

Just read that about Joe Cole in todays papers. Wonder when other players will follow suit.

Maybe if Cole didnt screw up so much he would get more starts and not get subbed. Have fun playing for Spurs or something.

Love the Chelski hate. (H)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3524805.stm

Cole hasen't requested a transfer.

Unrest was (is - if the story is unfounded) bound to happen at Chelsea at some point. The surprising thing is that the status quo has lasted for so long.

To begin with I'm disappointed at the United board's inability to close transfer deals. Having said that, in both the deals that have fallen through recently (Ronaldinho and Robben) I felt that the asking price was way too much and I'd rather not have paid and let the players go.

Ronaldinho was one thing though, he's getting game time for Barca and was already a proven player from his World Cup performance and time at PSG.

Robben on the other hand is young and looks able. I haven't seen enough of him to say how good he is. I don't think he's worth £15m though. At that price Chelsea are welcome to him, and if he's earning Euro100k a week at Chelsea then there's no way I'd have been happy with United playing him that much.

It's time for United to keep schtum on any targets. It's becoming obvious that Chelsea don't scout or manage themselves they wait for the better teams to say who they think is good, then jump on the bandwagon and pay twice what anyone's worth.

you have to be a fool to think Chelsea doenst scout players. How did transfers occur prior to Roman's arrival? Explain that one, football geniuses. Do you think he fired the scouting staff and does it on his own or something? Ranieri makes these decisions along with other managment.

IT WAS NO SECRET ROBBEN IS A GREAT PLAYER.

Stop thinking your the club that makes the world go around. Manure fans. :rolleyes:
Complain to your club that you LOW BALL other clubs for their great players. Robben is worth a lot more than the 5 mill you were trying to offer for him lol. I dunno about 20 mil but thats not the point.

And Chelsea fans did not complain when Arsenal did the same thing with Reyes. Wake up.

You know the way to avoid getting your "scouted players" stolen?

Stop cramming it down other teams throats that you plan to sign him.

Originally posted by monkee
It's time for United to keep schtum on any targets. It's becoming obvious that Chelsea don't scout or manage themselves they wait for the better teams to say who they think is good, then jump on the bandwagon and pay twice what anyone's worth.

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
You know the way to avoid getting your "scouted players" stolen?

Stop cramming it down other teams throats that you plan to sign him.

United have to make it public when they're going for a player because they're a PLC which means they're spending someone else's money.

Arsenal and Chelsea on the other hand are owned by someone and they're spending their own money and therefore don't have to release figures to the public.

That's what happens when your team sells out and ceases to be a football club anymore. Gone are the days where we can sign an Eric Cantona out of the blue.

Arsenal are a PLC

Officially Arsenal Football Club is a division of Arsenal Holdings PLC.

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
United have to make it public when they're going for a player because they're a PLC which means they're spending someone else's money.

Arsenal and Chelsea on the other hand are owned by someone and they're spending their own money and therefore don't have to release figures to the public.

That's what happens when your team sells out and ceases to be a football club anymore. Gone are the days where we can sign an Eric Cantona out of the blue.
Indeed. Atm though it seems it's either plc or M&M :kader: .

Sad but that is true. Public clubs cant make the same choices and take the same risks that private ones do. At least the clubs future is more stable (ie. less likely to go into administration)

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
Arsenal are a PLC

Officially Arsenal Football Club is a division of Arsenal Holdings PLC.

Arsenal have a majority shareholder (50%+ shares), United don't...

That's why United fans don't want M&M or the American fella getting 50% shares because they will effectively make all the decisions about the club.

Still the fact is ManU are stingy they could of focrked out a little extra cash and got the likes of Ronaldinho but they didnt coz they think they are top **** and there is no one else that can compete with them finiancially(apart from Real Madrid) and this season they are getting a reality check from clubs like Barca and Chelsea

Originally posted by PaPaGeorGeo
Still the fact is ManU are stingy they could of focrked out a little extra cash and got the likes of Ronaldinho but they didnt coz they think they are top **** and there is no one else that can compete with them finiancially(apart from Real Madrid) and this season they are getting a reality check from clubs like Barca and Chelsea
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick mate. You don't refuse to pay over the odds because you don't think anyone else will bid, well sometimes you do, but in these cases United didn't play that much because they didn't think that the player was worth it.

We paid £12m for Ronaldo, that was more than he was worth at the time but the club decided he had the potential to warrant it and that United wanted him more than their other targets. Yer see? :)

Anyway, we're not going to lose the EPL this year because of our transfer market dealings, we're going to lose it because our current players aren't performing up to scratch.

excatly so u need to get players that do perform which ure not doing coz u r stingy

How come we can sign players for 250,000 who proform well against Chelsea, when Man Utd have to spead 12m?

United, being run as a company have financial targets to meet each year. If this means having to miss out on a potential transfers, then so be it. Dividends have to be paid out to shareholders at the end of the financial year and they have to be paid.

So that £13 million which is short change for Chelsea is a lot of money for United board members. As a fan I could bitch about it because the clubs ambition doesn't match mine or many other fans, but at the end of the day United as a club ( and company:( ) has been run exceptionally well and because of that they have the second highest turnover, falling short of Real Madrid.

That's the way the sport's heading and it shows now more than ever because you can spot which teams are run well and those which aren't

Well u continue doing that and come 3rd in the Prem no skin of my neck neither Chelseas or Arsenals

Originally posted by PaPaGeorGeo
excatly so u need to get players that do perform which ure not doing coz u r stingy
No. We need our current players to start performing. ;) I mean Scholes has been quiet in recent games. Why replace him? he's better than 99% of the other players that play his position in the World.

Following on from what Mish just said. While the short term ambitions of the fans may, on the surface, be greater than that of the club. With the way football's going at the moment I'd rather safeguard our future, for future success, then break the bank for immediate success. Leeds did the latter, I'd rather finish 2nd or 3rd in the league than suffer administration and bankruptcy. Chelsea will follow suit if Abramovich has enough at some point, which would be a major worry if I were a Chelsea fan. It may not happen to them but the chance is still there, and I don't think love of Chelsea or football was one of the reasons for Abramovich's foray? (which is what leads to the speculation about his commitment)

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
How come we can sign players for 250,000 who proform well against Chelsea, when Man Utd have to spead 12m?

I think that's been answered mate... it's a well known fact that United are a laughing stock when it comes to negotiating tansfer fee's. Everytime they're taken for a ride...

There's also they tiny matter of Martin "Henry is too raw", "Zidane hasn't got what it takes to play in England", "Let's spend £7 mil on Forlan" Ferguson... Top class scout he is :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Ljungberg08
How come we can sign players for 250,000 who proform well against Chelsea, when Man Utd have to spead 12m?

Bobby coz we have a Wizard named Wenger

Sky reports the deal is done and its for £12m.
http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,7-1125733,00.html

Mish, I was using Euros in my earlier post so maybe you got the numbers wrong from there? It was never £20m.

I used the sum of £13 mil before...

ah I thought you meant the difference between the reported MU offer and Chelsea one.

United offered £5 mil... which was never enough, not suprised Chelsea signed him and for £60,000 a week :S

im sure he would of gone for less but he was only able to negotiate with chelski coz that was the only offer accepted

Its official :) http://www.chelseafc.com/article.asp?id=188876

great signing by us. Althout he will be fighting it out with duff, im sure ranieri (hopeing hes still with us) will work something out.

He'll just rotate like he always has he is a great manager

Robben can play centrally also apparently. Perhaps as a forward. He is very fast so why not.

Depending on who you ask, Robben is the best young Dutch player. Of course Ajax fans will say otherwise. Robben is more consistent, says the Dutch reporter on the BBC audio link on the right here.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3524213.stm

2003 Young Player of the Year.

is it official or its just your opinion?

I can some how see him regreting his decision. With the money proving to be his main incentive, I'm sure he wont mind being rotated. Good luck to him.

Do you think United came back with a second offer or do you think they have their sights set on someone else?

Originally posted by Bonzi
is it official or its just your opinion?

Official.

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
I can some how see him regreting his decision. With the money proving to be his main incentive, I'm sure he wont mind being rotated. Good luck to him.

Do you think United came back with a second offer or do you think they have their sights set on someone else?

Fergie will sets his eye on someone else, I sense a major signing or two

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
I can some how see him regreting his decision. With the money proving to be his main incentive, I'm sure he wont mind being rotated. Good luck to him.



How is money the main incentive? its the club who makes the price not the player,and manu simply got outbid, whats the problem?

Originally posted by jigger37
How is money the main incentive? its the club who makes the price not the player,and manu simply got outbid, whats the problem?

Robben said he would only play for United, he had the option of rejecting's Chelsea's contract offer

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
Do you think United came back with a second offer or do you think they have their sights set on someone else?
I reckon United moved on to someone else. It's been almost 2 months now since the bid was placed, if they wanted him badly they'd have bid again since then.

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
United offered ? mil... which was never enough, not suprised Chelsea signed him and for ?0,000 a week :S

We changed our offer to £8mil just recently.

Originally posted by jigger37
How is money the main incentive? its the club who makes the price not the player,and manu simply got outbid, whats the problem?

The quotes coming out of the Robben camp were very anti-chelsea with such classics as "Over my dead body" and "I'd rather player in Uniteds reserves"...

Robben under contract from PSV was well in his rights to reject any Chelsea offer but the money was too good to turn down, morals don't carry any weight with some people.

Though I still think we're all in the dark in the role United have played in this transfer. They might have dropped the interest, they might have realised with Chelsea around there was no way to compete. We don't know.

Originally posted by Fernandez
Robben said he would only play for United, he had the option of rejecting's Chelsea's contract offer
Maybe he changed his mind ?

Originally posted by Sky Reloaded
We changed our offer to £8mil just recently.

100,000 Euros is about £65k a week, that's what he'll earn at Chelsea.

United officially didn't make a second bid.

Originally posted by jigger37
Maybe he changed his mind ?

what could be the cause to influence him? Postition? Money? anyway, its over now, we cant change the past unless FIFA someshow interfere

Personally I think United dropped interest and that left Robben with the choice of PSV or Chelsea. He chose the latter and will now be one of the highest paid players in England.

Originally posted by MisH*The*Manc
The quotes coming out of the Robben camp were very anti-chelsea with such classics as "Over my dead body" and "I'd rather player in Uniteds reserves"...

Robben under contract from PSV was well in his rights to reject any Chelsea offer but the money was too good to turn down, morals don't carry any weight with some people.

Though I still think we're all in the dark in the role United have played in this transfer. They might have dropped the interest, they might have realised with Chelsea around there was no way to compete. We don't know.

Maybe your fans simply believed the stories they wanted to believe,maybe he didnt say those things(i saw the comments as well). Talking about morals,you also intended to sign this player who was already under contract, im not sure what kind of moral leg you have to stand on either(Saha,Forlan-how did boro feel- are other examples). And theres no need to be in the dark,i'll turn on the lights for you,manu wanted the player and they simply got outbid by chelsea, theres no need to overthink this thing,just accept it and move on.

Originally posted by Fernandez
what could be the cause to influence him? Postition? Money? anyway, its over now, we cant change the past unless FIFA someshow interfere
will you guys just get over yourselves,Why the hell should FIFA get involved:rofl: is manu getting outbid a crime now?

If United would have offered PSV's valuation, I have no doubts that he would have chosen United over Chelsea.

At United he would have guarenteed himself a first team position, the same can't be said about Chelsea unless they are willing to offload some players over the summer.

To be honest, he chose Chelsea. We're better off with out him, end of.

So what about Duff now?:rolleyes:

Robben get ahead of Duff? Doubt it and there still Gronkjaer. :rolleyes:

very good move for Chelsea, i hope hes ineligible to play against Stuttgart, am i right?

..its for next season

i'm a united fan and am dissapointed...as much as i hate chelski i have to admit thats business. they shouldnt have stalled the deal and messed about. But then again wut happens to duff and gronkjaer. who they gonna get rid of. U cant have that kind of team wit 3 goo dplayers that play the same position its a bit dumb.

To everybody who say Robben will end up in the reserves, I don't think so. I've seen Duff play often and also Robben. ANd I can only say Robben plays much better

if he really wanted to go to play football for a club he adores then it only makes sense to go. i dont give a flying ducks ass if its 200,000 a week. i love man u and id rather play fo rthe club i've supported. And i'm sure they can sort something out in my contract for years to come if i was play well and impress. Look at van nistelrooy hes now getting 80,000 a week. if he wanted to he could ask for a rise. so to me he just went for purely money cuz i'm sure united could have sorted him out with the wages.

then duff should feel threatened. cuz he wont be getting first team every week. gauranteed. this has pissed me off. cuz i like both duff and hasselbaink even though i support united. cuz they are gonna be on the bench longer. rosicky, cech, robben, adu and more comin in the near future.....but who are they sellin..LOL

maybe they signed him because they got so embarassed by Wright-Phillips last weekend that they want someone to outshine him next time the 2 meet (H)

but seriously, this is ****in ridiculous, I hope Roman goes bankrupt one day and Chelsea are forced to be one of them teams on sponsor-life-support :kader:

I dont see how suporters of big clubs like Milan and Man Utd can complain. Hypocrites :p

because Milan dont go buying every ****in superstar in the world for £20M each :| they try and scout decent young players and improve them, or buy some decently-known players and help them flourish (i.e. Seedorf, Pirlo)

Lets just face it, this club is sh!tty in the transfer market. They're living in the past because they think this 'class of 199whatever' is good enough to win every trophy there is, but the truth is, they're not. What major players besides Van Nistelrooy and Ferdinand have we signed in the past few seasons? Andy Goram? Mark Bosnich? Taibi? Bellion?:rolleyes: U think Juventus, Madrid or even Arsenal will sign players like that? Effing pathetic I say. The fact is we haven't signed any real world class and now the team is starting to show it.

so much for the vanthman guy who was arguing that Robben would be better than Joaquin because 'Robben wanted to play at Man. Utd. unlike Joaquin who just wqanted to play at a big club' according to him :rolleyes:

Originally posted by manufan
Lets just face it, this club is sh!tty in the transfer market. They're living in the past because they think this 'class of 199whatever' is good enough to win every trophy there is, but the truth is, they're not. What major players besides Van Nistelrooy and Ferdinand have we signed in the past few seasons? Andy Goram? Mark Bosnich? Taibi? Bellion?:rolleyes: U think Juventus, Madrid or even Arsenal will sign players like that? Effing pathetic I say. The fact is we haven't signed any real world class and now the team is starting to show it.

:jap:I really think you are smart.:jap:

Originally posted by manufan
Lets just face it, this club is sh!tty in the transfer market. They're living in the past because they think this 'class of 199whatever' is good enough to win every trophy there is, but the truth is, they're not. What major players besides Van Nistelrooy and Ferdinand have we signed in the past few seasons? Andy Goram? Mark Bosnich? Taibi? Bellion?:rolleyes: U think Juventus, Madrid or even Arsenal will sign players like that? Effing pathetic I say. The fact is we haven't signed any real world class and now the team is starting to show it.
Yeah, Manchester United is one of the wealthyiest clubs in the world.
If we used the money on players other than stupid gimmicks like "MU FINANCE" we can get somewhere.
When Vodafone extended the contract, Fergie was asked "What are you going to spend the money on?" Fergie replied "Players"
Well we haven't used the money have we?
We can't buy success, but we can buy to get a better chance of it.

Originally posted by rony31
because Milan dont go buying every ****in superstar in the world for £20M each :| they try and scout decent young players and improve them, or buy some decently-known players and help them flourish (i.e. Seedorf, Pirlo)

Neither does Chelsea.
The only established players to join were Crespo, Veron and Maka. the rest are ALL young players. :rolleyes:

Yeah, mutu is one of the best finds.

Originally posted by northstar
Neither does Chelsea.
The only established players to join were Crespo, Veron and Maka. the rest are ALL young players. :rolleyes:

ESTABLISHED young players

Robben, Duff, Parker, etc.

Originally posted by RUSI
so much for the vanthman guy who was arguing that Robben would be better than Joaquin because 'Robben wanted to play at Man. Utd. unlike Joaquin who just wqanted to play at a big club' according to him :rolleyes:
I don't know what vantheman said. But i would rather have Joaquin now. At least the guy doesn't lie to the press, just to get big teams on his heels. I thought Robben was a good guy, guess i was wrong:kader: .

Man f*ck him, if he wants to go and rot at Chelsea let him. Let Chelsea buy all these good players now, but I'm sure there'll be a LOT of good players performing at Euro 2004, and I'm sure Man Utd will sign one or two of em, and Chelsea wont cause they'll have all these players already.

Good guys don't play for Man Utd and Chelsea.

They play for Killie. You people need to learn that.

Originally posted by manufan
Man f*ck him, if he wants to go and rot at Chelsea let him. Let Chelsea buy all these good players now, but I'm sure there'll be a LOT of good players performing at Euro 2004, and I'm sure Man Utd will sign one or two of em, and Chelsea wont cause they'll have all these players already. I really don't think that'll stop them from buying to be honest.

Originally posted by rony31
ESTABLISHED young players

Robben, Duff, Parker, etc.

And Milan grows their own players?
Sheva, Kaka, Pirlo etc. were all known to be good players before they came to Milan. All the big clubs do the same thing.

Well, thats his career buggered. Unless they use a 0-10-0 formation.

these players are plain dumb signing for chelsea, even if your great u wont start on merit

uhh right.

Look at the bench of any big club and you see players on there that you can say would start on a different club.
hatorade whut (H)

Originally posted by northstar
And Milan grows their own players?
Sheva, Kaka, Pirlo etc. were all known to be good players before they came to Milan. All the big clubs do the same thing.

Sheva and Kaka were good, but Pirlo at Inter? :|

Geez... Dutch clubs... develop stars, sell them... sigh...

If Ajax and PSV have kept all of their players over the years they would be tops in Europe, especially Ajax... :kader:

Pirlo was on U21 lineup for Italy. You cant be a crap player and be on that team.

And lets just look at how many players go to Inter and play worse then they do elsewhere. (H)