i am bored with the same teams
i think Valencia and Galatasray are the teams of the year.
i hope they will win the cups

Galatasaray team of the year.Yeah right!!

Let me ask u if Gala did so good this year then how come they went no where in the CL?!?

I Don't mind valencia winning the champions league.

ARSENAL HAS NOT WON MUCH IN EUROPE. AND THE UEFA CUP IS DEFINATELY THEIR TROPHY.

MAN SHUT THE HELL UP GREEKFANATIK. IF YOU THINK I'M PISSED OFF CUZ I'M WRITING IN CAPS GUESS WHAT'S TRUE. I AM! YOU AND YOUR DAMN ANTI-TURKISH ATTITUDE. DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR GREEK STUFF ALL THE TIME. NO. YOU ARE ALWAYS THE ONE TO BRING ANYTHING UP. WHENEVER GREECE OR THE GREEK U-21, U-18, OR EVEN U-16 TEAM PLAY, YOU POST THE SCORE HERE. WHEN A GREEK BASKETBALL TEAM WINS A TOURNAMENT EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T A BASKETBALL FORUM YOU POST IT. WHEN THE U-18 TEAM WON A MATCH, YOU POSTED. WHEN GREECE WON 2 MATCHES, YOU POSTED. WHEN A GREEK GOALKEEPER WON AN AWARD, YOU POSTED. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES IT! DO YOU HEAR ANYONE ELSE RAVING FOR THEIR COUNTRY LIKE YOU? NO!!!! AND EVERYTIME IT'S THE SAME DAMN THING, "I'M SO PROUD OF THE BOYS" AND CRAP LIKE THAT. I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU GREEKFANATIK! AND ONE MORE THING! WHENEVER THE SUBJECT OF TURKISH FOOTBALL IS MENTIONED FROM TIME TO TIME YOU ARE THE FIRST TO COME OUT AND DIRECTLY CRITICIZE IT. YOU LEAVE NO SPACE FOR ANY REASONABLE SCRUTINY OF TALENT. AND NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE OTHER GREEKS DO IT. THEY'RE KOOL. NOT GREEKFANATIK. HE DOES IT SO MUCH I'M SICK AND TIRED OF HIM. WE'VE ALL TRIED TO IGNORE HIS POSTS NOW BUT NOW HE HAS TO COME TO THIS SUBJECT AND BLOW TURKISH FOOTBALL TO HELL. LEAVE US ALONE DAMMIT! YOU SAY YOU AREN'T RACIST MAYBE YOU AREN'T OK BUT YOU DEFINITELY HAVE A HATE TOWARD ANYTHING TURKISH. AND DON'T TRY TO DENY THAT CUZ IT'S SO OBVIOUS. NOW GET OFF.

excuse me hnafc but did galatasaray win anything in europe? don't you think they deserve they deserve to win more than arsenal? you english snobs, you think you have to have the right to win everything don't you. you're not satisfied with a few cups and you don't see things from both sides of the argument. galatasaray hasn't won anything in europe, plus they reached the final without a international superstar multi-billion squad. what's arsenal? a basically imported team. of course you won't have a problem with valencia winning the champions cup cuz there're no english teams in it. actually, i don't think you would even care who won the cl.

and according to your logic greekfanatik, let me ask you, what has your beloved olympiakos done in anything in europe this year huh? no excuses please.

and i forgot to mention, the greek cup final. who cares? you're just trying to get recognition to greek football greekfanatik. you don't see us posting about the turkish cup final do you? which was just last week.

look at all of greekfanatik's topics. all of them have something about greece and their football. i know i'm sounding harsh here, but i've just been taken to the limit.

Actually GSHakan,


I have only written bad things about Turkish teams on 2 subjects.And if i'm correct,U were the one's who instegated it when i was arguing with the Romanians.

Look I have no problems with the Turkish people.I could give a **** what happens with Turkey.But i don't believe that Galatasaray is as good as u say.I mean truly if they were so good,wouldn't they have done something in the CL instead of getting knocked out?? nd also My friend Kostas has also posted Greek stuff.And if u would take a look me and my Greek friends have some very good conversations going.So thats why I post things.


Look the point is don't take it so serious.I have nothing against the Turkish people.It's just my opinion that Gala isn't that good.Don't blow up over nothing.U kinda went over the edge this time.LOL

Well to respond to your 2nd post,There is 3 Greeks in this forum and we have been discussing Greek Football for a while now.So I don't post it for u but for my friends!

PS If u don't care,why respond?? And also,Let me ask u a question,was my question at the beginning of this post so wacked??

Oh yeah about Olympiakos,no excuses.We played poorly,we had a new team and it didn't work out.Then we got knocked out of the Uefa Cup by Juventus.But then again last year we did make it to Quarter Finals of the CL!

just because a team hasnt won in europe doesnt mean it deserves to win it....

Hey GShakan
I COULD SAY THE SAME THING TO ALL YOU TURKEY BAST£RDS OUT THERE. YOU WANT GALATASARY TO WIN CAUSE THEY ARE A TURK SIDE. I'M NO DIFFERENT IF ENGLISH SIDES WERE LEFT IN EUROPE YOU'D WANT THEM TO WIN.

AND WHY WOULD YOU SAY GALATASARY DESERVE TO WIN THE UEFA CUP MORE THAN ARSENAL. ANY SIDE THAT GETS TO A FINAL DESERVES TO WIN IN ANY COMPETITION. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A LOSER SOMEWHERE.

i was ONLY going by hnafc's logic, he seemed like he was justifying himself by saying arsenal should win cuz they haven't won much in europe? wasn't that the logic i then used? well, if arsenal hasn't won much, at least they won something, and galatasaray hasn't won anything, so they deserved to win more. i know that's dumb logic, but blame hnafc, not me.

greekfanatik, ok, maybe i blew up, but please, admit that you have posted criticism of turkish football in more than just 2 subjects. please. that's ridiculous. everytime turkish football is even mentioned, you're there criticising it. look back at the history of this forum and everyone will see. you criticise it in every way you can. and ok, kostas also posts, but you certainly are the one who started it and does it at a much larger rate than anyone else.

i was the one who instigated the argument when you were arguing with the romanians? excuse me, but i came in after other turkish supporters were already there. anyway, it was pretty much everyone against you. you were getting disproved every way and other, and you kept giving the excuse that you were just celebrating your team's win.

i don't care so i shouldn't respond? well, i don't, do you see me responding in your posts anymore? and this topic wasn't started by you, it was started by mpekin so i don't know what you're talking about. and just because i don't care doesn't mean i can't help but notice the posts!

and by the way, hnafc, i'm not turkish, nor do i live there anymore, but my living there for a long time has made me a fanatical supporter of galatasaray. and i wasn't the one who started it. you were the one who first said that arsenal deserved it more than galatasaray. i just used your logic and came back with a response. i don't believe in the logic, i personally don't think anyone deserves it more, but i still support gs, so. remember, you're at fault.

and greekfanatik, i never said gs was the team of the year or anything but thinking about it i would say so. look, the team of the year doesn't have to be the most successful one ok. to me it's the one who has surprised everyone the most, the one who has overcome tremendously difficult obstacles and succeeded, the one who doesn't build a superstar squad and can still win through hard work and good coaching. that's what the team of the year should be made of.

Sheringham is God!

Look I agree with u,Olympiakos is in the same situation that Gala is in.We don't have "big" players in either side.Just a few Brazialians here and there.U guys have Hagi,and we Have Zahovic.So I RESPECT your team for making it to the Uefa Cup.But I also believe that your team showed that they can't compete in the CL when they got knocked out.And I did go back and check,it was only on 3 subjects that I have responded to Turks.And one of them was my post.


In my post,I didn't want to fight but the Romanians and some Turks just jumped all over me.I guess they were so surprised that my team won,i don't know but I will stick up for my country the same that u do.And I aslo don't like when anyone is against Gala u call them a RACIST.That is to powerful of a word to be used,over these little fights.I will admit I don't like Gala,but thats my Opinion,But I do respect them for Making it to the Uefa Cup.

No,surely not same teams.
-Fatih Terim
-Hakan Sukur
-Gheorge Popescu
and subs.
And gala is in final,greeks are in their league.
AAAnd i wonder why the greeks hate turks.

Actually.....

Giovanni-Brazilian (striker)

Zahovic-Best player in EURO 2000

Eleftheropoulos-voted best GK in Europe.

Choutos-came from Roma,already considered to be the best Greek Talent.He is a striker and has played about 10 games and has 7 goals.Scored 15 goals with the under-21 NT in the under-21 Championship.


So don't talk players.....

Oh and the reason no Greek Teams are in the Final here it is:

Olympiakos-Got knocked out by the SERIE A champs Juventus.

Panathinaikos-Got knocked out by the Spanish Champs Deportivo.

AEK Athens-Got knocked out by french Champs Monaco.

So thats the reason.Kinda hard opponents huh?

So,what were u saying about Greeks hating Turks??

Hey you greek...
do you know how juventus got draw with you?
The jUvEFA played big games on us with the 2. match in istanbul...

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