Scolari was sacked from coaching the portuguese NT last night after another defeat of Portugal. HUmberto Coelho and Toni are the main candidates to the spot. :wootman:

You sure?? Source??
Or Is it another APRIL FOOLS JOKE

The rangers thing wasn't April fools.

Yes, the Rangers takeover by Chelsea is 100% true. It's been posted by the BBC, so it must have some validity.

IF C-B says it good its good

Originally posted by C-B
The rangers thing wasn't April fools.

:kader:

gotta be april fools, otherwise this news is GREAT!!!!!!


this will be me if this is confirmed ---> :jacko: :lui: :bob: :bouncy:

Originally posted by ::shinji::
gotta be april fools, otherwise this news is GREAT!!!!!!


this will be me if this is confirmed ---> :jacko: :lui: :bob: :bouncy:

ok it's april fools :p

but read this article of abola/noticiasnahora
;)

Selecção – Scolari por um fio à frente da Selecção


ASF
A «bomba» rebentou no final do jogo de ontem à noite, em Braga, no qual a Selecção portuguesa foi derrotada pela Itália (1-2). Scolari não terá gostado das críticas que lhe foram dirigidas por um alto responsável da Federação Portuguesa de Futebol (FPF) e ameaçou «bater com a porta».


As afirmações do seleccionador nacional, antes do jogo com os italianos, segundo as quais o resultado frente à Itália não era o mais importante, não caíram bem na FPF. Ainda que se tratasse de um jogo de preparação, «exigia-se» outra atitude à equipa das quinas, tanto mais que já começou a contagem decrescente para o Europeu.

«A BOLA on-line» apurou que o seleccionador nacional não terá gostado que um alto responsável federativo o acusasse de falta de ambição, por ter proferido aquelas declarações antes do jogo. Sabendo-se como Scolari não admite interferências na sua área de actuação, não é difícil adivinhar a sua reacção – bateu com a porta!

maybe it's lie.


(H)

CRAP!! I was already hoping that Scolari could coach Inter next year, you really let me down you PUNK(t) (H)

Originally posted by SB9Dragon
CRAP!! I was already hoping that Scolari could coach Inter next year, you really let me down you PUNK(t) (H)

Well, his contract ends in July. So he could coach Inter next season. (H)

but that would destroy his career :confused:

Originally posted by Frostwolf
Yes, the Rangers takeover by Chelsea is 100% true. It's been posted by the BBC, so it must have some validity.

Never saw a thing about on the BBC...and I read that every day mate. Got a link?

Originally posted by ::shinji::
gotta be april fools, otherwise this news is GREAT!!!!!!


this will be me if this is confirmed ---> :jacko: :lui: :bob: :bouncy: me2 :rockman: too bad it's not true or else the "AA" would actually have a chance at winning something.

The guy that wanted him at Inter plz take him, your club is the perfect match for him. ;) take him now,ASAP.

Originally posted by ::Jason::
but that would destroy his career :confused:

lol poor inter fans have to deal with this everytime when the name of inter milan and any player is mentioned in the same sentence:rofl:

Funny, bcs I was talking with my homies prior to the Italy game, and we all agreed those Scolari comments were pure rubbish. He was sort of apologizing beforehand in case we lost, which shows everybody, including his players and the opposing team, how much he doesn't trust them.
Mourinho has the exact opposite attitude, and the results are there to be seen, man.
I absolutely detest this loser's frame of mind, and we're bound to win zero games if things keep the same.
Well, at least we won't spend money with travels this time. :D

Originally posted by ::Jason::
but that would destroy his career :confused:

Class (Y) (H)

Originally posted by INFESTA
Funny, bcs I was talking with my homies prior to the Italy game, and we all agreed those Scolari comments were pure rubbish. He was sort of apologizing beforehand in case we lost, which shows everybody, including his players and the opposing team, how much he doesn't trust them.
Mourinho has the exact opposite attitude, and the results are there to be seen, man.
I absolutely detest this loser's frame of mind, and we're bound to win zero games if things keep the same.
Well, at least we won't spend money with travels this time. :D

I never actually heard Scolari's comments, but that's just inexcusable. I still remember when Scolari would use the excuse "we're still in the building process, after 6 games I'll have the team playing how they should be...etc" and now what?

I hate that defeatist attitude too, it'll just bring the NT back to the days when we played with an inferiority complex against any nation who even remotely had a reputation. I'm old enough to remember seeing our NT play absolute dismal games like certain draws against Luxembourg and Malta back in the 80's :nape:

it's gonna be a short Euro for us, and I blame the FPF even more that Scolari or the players, mainly because they'd rather keep Scolari in to save face and justify the money they've spent on him. If Scolari was to be fired now and Agostinho Oliveira was brought back in, it wouldn't be a major change and something tells me we might do a little better this summer.

You guys are just criticizing him too much. Wait until the Euro 2004, and then you can launch all you want at him. He was the public enemy number one in Brazil, and we won the world cup.

God, a fan went screaming on him and he kicked the fan in the ass (literally, and what a great kick that was) one day before we travelled to Japan. And the defeat wasnt his fault (at least against Italy), Vieri's goal was a complete lack of awareness of the defense, and Ricardo made a foul of himself a lot of times. And, wtf was the second goal anyways? Blame the team, not him, at least this time. And the last couple of matches i watched, Portugal didnt play that bad, the match against England could've been better, England's goal was an accident. Plus you guys missed some great chances, especially in the second half.

By the time Euro starts, i'm pretty sure things will improve dramatically, and i'll be cheering for Portugal.

Geez would you stop that nonsense? realize something: Sacking Scolari at this time would tottally finish our chances of winning a single match! He's the man in the job, he's doing his work, so please show some respect! Happenned the same bulls* with Brazil and Romario and just look how it ended! Give the man a chance! Friendlys don't count damn it! There were 7 substitutes.... you know that's what makes the difference!

Originally posted by Funky--K
Geez would you stop that nonsense? realize something: Sacking Scolari at this time would tottally finish our chances of winning a single match! He's the man in the job, he's doing his work, so please show some respect! Happenned the same bulls* with Brazil and Romario and just look how it ended! Give the man a chance! Friendlys don't count damn it! There were 7 substitutes.... you know that's what makes the difference!

100%agree. :)

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Originally posted by ::Jason::
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Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
Class (Y) (H)

Destroy his career? What a nonsensical statement :D

That was class? Why do you speak with such zaniness? (H)

Felipao is the man, y'all should quit complaining. Blame the team for letting that stupid goal in...Go watch some of Brasil's game in the WC and watch how technical Brasil played under Scolari. He can maintain a great offesne while playing strong defense! And anyone who can get Brasil to play strong defese is amazing! Props to Scolari!
I do agree that that game was a step back in progress, but you were leading 1-0...remember portugal beat Brasil 2-1 (with F'n traitor deco - God bless him) so they cant be that bad, even though Brasil really sucked that game.

you can"t compare Scolari's work with Portugal to his work with Brazil....we don't have the depth Brasil has and we don't have the phenom Ronaldo or Ronaldinho to save us in big occasions, he could afford to not call up Romario

. If Scolari was Portuguese the Portuguese media would tear him apart but since he's a foreigner, he can f*ck up all he wants and they still kiss his ass..

i agree 100% with Shinji, if scolari was portuguese he'd be gone so fast. PDC also said something similar to this. he's brazilian so madail kisses his ass

But what do you guys want? Sack SColari when the euro is very near? But he hired to make a good euro, not to win the friendly games, off course he have to make the experiences in friendlies.... Good strategy, sack Scolari, pay a very large amount for bracking the contract and destroy all the structure weeks before the competition. just great...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by ::Jason::
but that would destroy his career :confused:

you know this, MAN(H)

Portugal needs Guus Hiddink. (H)

I never said we should sack him. There isn't enough time to rebuild the team. Besides, since he's been paid so much already, he should face the competition, so we can point the finger on him after.

WilliamFAlmeida: Well, it so happens that Portugal doesn't play strong defence and can only attack well when the other team is not pressuring our midfield (as it was obvious with Italy).
But the worst part is the lack of commitment and heart this team shows, and that is solely the coach's responsibility. Just check my previous post (about Scolari's pre-game press conference) to know what I mean. ;)

Grunger0x: No, we can't wait for the Euro to criticize. I'm not the one who points the finger after the harm is done. Better do it now before it's too late and while we can still change anything.

Luis: Correct 100%. If he was portuguese he'd be sacked after 2 months. Hell, Agostinho was sacked and Portugal was playing great and gathering some good results! :|

Originally posted by INFESTA
I never said we should sack him. There isn't enough time to rebuild the team. Besides, since he's been paid so much already, he should face the competition, so we can point the finger on him after.

WilliamFAlmeida: Well, it so happens that Portugal doesn't play strong defence and can only attack well when the other team is not pressuring our midfield (as it was obvious with Italy).
But the worst part is the lack of commitment and heart this team shows, and that is solely the coach's responsibility. Just check my previous post (about Scolari's pre-game press conference) to know what I mean. ;)

Grunger0x: No, we can't wait for the Euro to criticize. I'm not the one who points the finger after the harm is done. Better do it now before it's too late and while we can still change anything.

Luis: Correct 100%. If he was portuguese he'd be sacked after 2 months. Hell, Agostinho was sacked and Portugal was playing great and gathering some good results! :|

But you should. Give him time, and Portugal cant change anything. Firing him would be foolish, no manager in the world can build a Euro winning squad in less than 6 months. Felipão is trying to do his best, and he is a coach with a winning mentality (and i have facts to back that up, not only the WC), and maybe
he tries to get that to the players, and they act like losers? The inferiority complex is not 100% the manager's fault, it has to do with players mentality too. In Brazil, no-one was thinking we could win the WC, except for the squad.

Players should think themselves that they're playing the Euro at home and that they're favourites, and they should do their best to prove that. Also, Felipão is trying to test the team, he's playing against the best, Brazil, England, Italy, Spain. He's not playing against some foolish team from Asia for example, i mean, he's trying to prepare the squad by facing tougher and better opposition. But i'll stop before you guys think i'm a Felipão fanboy.:crazyboy: Good luck for Portugal in Euro.;)

Originally posted by Grunger0x
But you should. Give him time, and Portugal cant change anything. Firing him would be foolish, no manager in the world can build a Euro winning squad in less than 6 months. Felipão is trying to do his best, and he is a coach with a winning mentality (and i have facts to back that up, not only the WC), and maybe
he tries to get that to the players, and they act like losers? The inferiority complex is not 100% the manager's fault, it has to do with players mentality too. In Brazil, no-one was thinking we could win the WC, except for the squad.

Players should think themselves that they're playing the Euro at home and that they're favourites, and they should do their best to prove that. Also, Felipão is trying to test the team, he's playing against the best, Brazil, England, Italy, Spain. He's not playing against some foolish team from Asia for example, i mean, he's trying to prepare the squad by facing tougher and better opposition. But i'll stop before you guys think i'm a Felipão fanboy.:crazyboy: Good luck for Portugal in Euro.;)

Dude, I already said I don't want him sacked now.
About his mentality, read my first post in this thread. Anyone familiar with portuguese football knows what is a coach with a winning mentality: Mourinho. Like him or hate him, he can pump his players up and make them feel they're invincible. He would never EVER say what Scolari said.
Throughout his stay here Felipão never showed that much ambition or winning attitude. Just ask anyone living here. And that is a fact. :|
I also disagree when you say the mentality isn't 100% manager's fault. Well, I believe the most important role a coach has to play is to create a team spirit and a winning/invincible attitude. That's what makes the difference at the end of the day. That's what made ManU come back in the final minutes in their CL final against Bayern. etc.

Finally, Portugal, under Scolari's orders, played some great opposition but also mediocre teams. I think he's right in doing so, but come on, more testing? Just two months away? And what about the other teams we've faced? Why aren't they experimenting aswell?

Oh well, we can't agree on everything. Lets just hope we win the damn thing or Scolari can go to Brazil and take the whole squad with him.Except Paulo Ferreira and Ricardo Carvalho, bcs we need them.
Take care, cheers. ;)

Originally posted by INFESTA
Hell, Agostinho was sacked and Portugal was playing great and gathering some good results! :|

Agostinho was not sacked. He is a part of the NT staff and we was a caretaker coach before Scolari.

Originally posted by INFESTA
Dude, I already said I don't want him sacked now.
About his mentality, read my first post in this thread. Anyone familiar with portuguese football knows what is a coach with a winning mentality: Mourinho. Like him or hate him, he can pump his players up and make them feel they're invincible. He would never EVER say what Scolari said.
Throughout his stay here Felipão never showed that much ambition or winning attitude. Just ask anyone living here. And that is a fact. :|
I also disagree when you say the mentality isn't 100% manager's fault. Well, I believe the most important role a coach has to play is to create a team spirit and a winning/invincible attitude. That's what makes the difference at the end of the day. That's what made ManU come back in the final minutes in their CL final against Bayern. etc.

Finally, Portugal, under Scolari's orders, played some great opposition but also mediocre teams. I think he's right in doing so, but come on, more testing? Just two months away? And what about the other teams we've faced? Why aren't they experimenting aswell?

Oh well, we can't agree on everything. Lets just hope we win the damn thing or Scolari can go to Brazil and take the whole squad with him.Except Paulo Ferreira and Ricardo Carvalho, bcs we need them.
Take care, cheers. ;)
Well, i dont know what he said before the game though, could anyone quote that for me or any stuff like that? About the winning mentality, well, a manager always tries to make the team feel good, but it's up to the players if they buy it or not. Anyway, i'm a massive Felipão fan, and i would be dissapointed if Portugal failed to do anything remarkable in this Euro. But he's human, so in the end of the day, Portugal could fail miserably.

Portugal isn't Brazil. You can't say for us not to be pissed off just because he won the World Cup two years ago. If a manager is bad then he should be fired. And please stop saying **** about the team being the only ones that believe in Euro. It's kind of hard to believe that when Scolari himself said before his highest goal was to get to the quarter finals, not to very ******* long ago. And then a few weeks later and he says he can take Portugal to the finals and win, and before the Italy game the **** is practically apologizing for losing even before the players were on the pitch.

Scolari is a disgrace. Such stupid tactics might work in a place like Brazil, but in Portugal looking for perfection is the only way to have a decent shot at success.

And about Portugal facing strong sides...

Yeah, because you know, Lithuania is going to be in Euro 2004 kicking everybody's ass. Such a shame it was Latvia and not Lithuania to go to Euro.

Give me a ******* break. We're not morons. The way I see it, Augustinho was made for the job. And he's probably the only reason guys like Postiga, Cristiano, Miguel, Tiago, Quaresma, and others have EVER even played in the National jersey already. (If you don't know Augustinho works as Scolari's assistant)

was agostinho the portugal WC coach? Whoever coached portugal in the WC was a MORON- He did TERRIBLE, his stupid draw tactics against S Korea were RIDICULOUS....anyway...

you cant sack a coach before a big competition, its bad business

Originally posted by Boelman
was agostinho the portugal WC coach? Whoever coached portugal in the WC was a MORON- He did TERRIBLE, his stupid draw tactics against S Korea were RIDICULOUS....anyway...

you cant sack a coach before a big competition, its bad business
No the coach during the World Cup was Antonio Oliveira(the two aren't related). I don't see why we can't fire a coach before a big competition. If he's doing like ****, than it's very justified. And it'd be justified with Scolari.

no that was Antonio Oliveira who was coach during the WC, Agostinho Oliveira (no relation) was appointed as temporary coach/caretaker of the NT after the WC.. He had some positive results in his short time in charge before Scolari was hired..

oops, posted at the same time :)

That happened to brazil before the WC
We were playing ****...and then we won the WC
Scolari knows how to train a team, he knows how to create a great atmosphere in the team...
Portugal have class players so it doesn't matter if you lose against Italy in a friendly...(Italy is a very good team)
Portugal is at the same level as the other top eurupean teams

Well.. while most brazilians posting here defend Scolari, I for one dislike him as a coach... sure he won lots of titles, and I respect him a lot for that.. the defeat to Italy wasn't his fault, as Vieri fouled the defender when heading and well... there was the second one... and it wasn't Scolari there between the posts...
but anyone could take Brazil to the world cup title...
Our group was the easiest one, we had the ref helping us against Belgium, we played against England when half their regular starters were out of World Cup, and Turkey aren't excatly what I'd call a dream team (not even in Euro 04)
Scolari is overrated in my opinion and I know what you portuguese mates are feeling at the moment... hope you have the same luck we had in Japan/Korea

Originally posted by Kibe Kru
Well.. while most brazilians posting here defend Scolari, I for one dislike him as a coach... sure he won lots of titles, and I respect him a lot for that.. the defeat to Italy wasn't his fault, as Vieri fouled the defender when heading and well... there was the second one... and it wasn't Scolari there between the posts...
but anyone could take Brazil to the world cup title...
Our group was the easiest one, we had the ref helping us against Belgium, we played against England when half their regular starters were out of World Cup, and Turkey aren't excatly what I'd call a dream team (not even in Euro 04)
Scolari is overrated in my opinion and I know what you portuguese mates are feeling at the moment... hope you have the same luck we had in Japan/Korea
Finally someone who understands!:) ;)

Originally posted by Aveirenses
Portugal isn't Brazil. You can't say for us not to be pissed off just because he won the World Cup two years ago. If a manager is bad then he should be fired. And please stop saying **** about the team being the only ones that believe in Euro. It's kind of hard to believe that when Scolari himself said before his highest goal was to get to the quarter finals, not to very ******* long ago. And then a few weeks later and he says he can take Portugal to the finals and win, and before the Italy game the **** is practically apologizing for losing even before the players were on the pitch.

Scolari is a disgrace. Such stupid tactics might work in a place like Brazil, but in Portugal looking for perfection is the only way to have a decent shot at success.

And about Portugal facing strong sides...

Yeah, because you know, Lithuania is going to be in Euro 2004 kicking everybody's ass. Such a shame it was Latvia and not Lithuania to go to Euro.

Give me a ******* break. We're not morons. The way I see it, Augustinho was made for the job. And he's probably the only reason guys like Postiga, Cristiano, Miguel, Tiago, Quaresma, and others have EVER even played in the National jersey already. (If you don't know Augustinho works as Scolari's assistant)
First, welcome back. Second, chill out. As i said, i didnt know what he said, looks like he did talk some trash. As he always did though. I admit that people cant be complacent, so you have every right to criticize him. Like Man Utd fans did to Wes Brown before becoming his manwhores after 4 or 5 good games. I didnt say that the team is the only ones believing in the Euro.

I said that they should think themselves as favourites to win it and that they should prove that to themselves and themselves only. "Translating" it for you, i said that they need to show they have balls, but not to Felipão nor the fans, but themselves. His tactics didnt lose the game against Italy nor drew the game against England, plus he won the match against Brazil. From the big clashes, the only one Portugal played bad seemed to be like the Spain match. And Portugal faced strong sides, but of course you need a game to raise morale, and that game is against the minnows (Lithuania in the case).

But you played against Brazil, Italy, Spain, England, strong competition, teams that should do a great work in Euro. One game against Lithuania is not enough to say that you didnt face stiff competition. If you think he is a disgrace or not, who am i to disagree anyway? And no-one said you or any other human being on this thread are morons. I'm not saying for you to not get pissed off because of the world cup, but because he is a good manager and he's one of the most accomplished people in football, talking worldwide. The WC 2002 is just part of his curriculum, and i'll not waste my time posting the rest of it here.

Also, apart from Mourinho i cant see anyone capable of replacing Felipão, and still do a good job at Euro. In the Portuguese scenario of course.

Originally posted by Kibe Kru
Well.. while most brazilians posting here defend Scolari, I for one dislike him as a coach... sure he won lots of titles, and I respect him a lot for that.. the defeat to Italy wasn't his fault, as Vieri fouled the defender when heading and well... there was the second one... and it wasn't Scolari there between the posts...
but anyone could take Brazil to the world cup title...
Our group was the easiest one, we had the ref helping us against Belgium, we played against England when half their regular starters were out of World Cup, and Turkey aren't excatly what I'd call a dream team (not even in Euro 04)
Scolari is overrated in my opinion and I know what you portuguese mates are feeling at the moment... hope you have the same luck we had in Japan/Korea
We played England almost the entire second half with 10 men and they didnt have a decent chance at goal. Turkey were the 2nd best team of the WC, they would be the ones to win it if it was not for us. And they arent a dream team in the Euro 04, they arent even qualified for it. Felipão is the only manager that made our defense play well in a long time, and that is with the likes of Roque Junior, Lucio, Polga...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Grunger0x
We played England almost the entire second half with 10 men and they didnt have a decent chance at goal. Turkey were the 2nd best team of the WC, they would be the ones to win it if it was not for us. And they arent a dream team in the Euro 04, they arent even qualified for it. Felipão is the only manager that made our defense play well in a long time, and that is with the likes of Roque Junior, Lucio, Polga...:rolleyes:
About England - If Gerrard played that match we'd be out of the world cup in the quarters
Turkey also benefitted from playing in a weak group... they surely are good, but not half as good as a top quality team - I did say they aren't in the Euro 2004, read my post again (not even in euro 04 - I meant they didn't even qualify for it - I admit I wasn't clear enough though).. and to say they were the second best... well... to get there they played China, Costa Rica, Japan, Senegal and South Korea... not exactly world beaters don't you think?
I keep my opinion that Felipao isn't all that good but respect your position
He is really successful, but that is down to a good amount of luck

Gerrard is world class, of course. But we cant be sure he would change the game dramatically. About the luck, maybe in the WC, but dont forget what he did here. He won the Brazilian Cup with teams like Criciuma, plus winning the Libertadores with Grêmio and Palmeiras. Back that time, one could say that winning the Libertadores was easy.

But now that we're a little older, we can see that it's very hard, and i dont see any Brazilian team capable of doing it. It's between Boca and Boca for me.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Grunger0x
Gerrard is world class, of course. But we cant be sure he would change the game dramatically. About the luck, maybe in the WC, but dont forget what he did here. He won the Brazilian Cup with teams like Criciuma, plus winning the Libertadores with Grêmio and Palmeiras. Back that time, one could say that winning the Libertadores was easy.

But now that we're a little older, we can see that it's very hard, and i dont see any Brazilian team capable of doing it. It's between Boca and Boca for me.:rolleyes:
(sorry portuguese soccergamers, I won't take over your thread for long).. it's all a matter of opinions and I won't be able to change yours neither you'll change mine...
here are my opinions...
England lacked someone to push them forward with something other than long balls for Heskey to flick on and Owen to run to... Gerrard could do that
He won the Brazilian Cup when no one cared about it - it was one of the first editions if not the first (I can't remember)
Winning the Libertadores with Gremio was impressive but I can't really remember Palmeiras' side well... (yeah.. I was too busy crying because Corinthians lost to them) but I think it was a good team and it's natural for a good team to win championships/cups (they weren't better than Corinthians though.. and maybe they won because Scolari was their coach... who knows)

By parts. Yes, England needed someone with flair, plus they were tactically perfect, one of the reasons they lost. Even when we were with only 10 men, Beckham was still man marking a Roberto Carlos that couldnt do any harm. The Palmeiras side was a good team, but a team he built. He arrived in 1998 i guess, when Palmeiras already lost their stars (Cafu, Antonio Carlos, Edilson, Muller, etc..) and he requested some players, he was given the players and he built a winning team. Dunno about the Brazilian Cup, but he won it with a mediocre team, and this competition is one of the most important ones in our calendar. Anyway, let's agree to disagree, i'm not paid to defend him, so i'll stop it right here.;)

Scolari is the best coach in the world. Im tellig u guys, hes awesome. But Portugals NT is just not as good as Frances, Italys, Englands, Holands nor Spains so it gets a bit tough.

dude, you cant deny that Brasil was the best team in the WC! You have to give Felipao some credit....personally I only became a fan, after I saw how well Brasil played in the WC....
you have to remember that players dont take friendlies that serious, so all these friendlies that Portugal are playing, are in the middle of other league seasons, so you know not everyone is trying so hard. I say wait and see how he does in Euro...

Look at Parreira, since he came on, I think Brasil only won like 4 or 5 games out of a lot....he's still hired, cuz they know that once he really has time to work with a team (which means constantly practicing, for more than just 2 days before a match--- I mean like 2 weeks of bonding) then Brasil will win for sure, if they dont do well in Copa America, when Parreira has time to train, I guarantee you hes going to be fired.

Parreira sucks! He doesnt call Mancini, hes not creative enough to realise Brasil must play in a 3-4-1-2 and plus he dates Zé Roberto!

Nobody likes Parreira, but how did Scolari start his career with Brazil?

He was doing great at Cruzeiro I think. And Brasil was kinda desperate for a coach, all were refusing cuz Leão failed and Luxemburgo got involved in a lot of ****. Coaching Brasil turned into some kind of hot potato. But Scolari is magic and got it all fixed.

Well my point is, Parreira started with Brazil almost the same way as Scolari and everybody was saying exactly the same about Scolari at a similar time of managing Brazil. However Scolari is a hero now, so why not give Parreira sometime, maybe he can turn things around as well?

Parreira is not a creative coach hes always going to play a 4-3-1-2 or a 4-3-2-1. He is a predictable coach. Its no use expecting big things about him. Its like having a bar football supporter as a coach...

Originally posted by MaryMoon
Parreira is not a creative coach hes always going to play a 4-3-1-2 or a 4-3-2-1. He is a predictable coach. Its no use expecting big things about him. Its like having a bar football supporter as a coach...
where are you from MaryMoon?
Parreira is indeed really predictive.. you already know which players are going to play and which ones will enter at half time
but like Felipao did, he also needs time for the team to practice together
something you have to remember is every coach has his favourite tactics and staff so don't think Parreira will play 3-5-2 or Felipao will play 3-3-4...
Parreira did achieve glory in his career and is a good coach... maybe not the best we have but a good one... and I respect him for that

Originally posted by Punkt
Agostinho was not sacked. He is a part of the NT staff and we was a caretaker coach before Scolari.

That's a sacking in my book. People already said at the time Agistinho should stay, and the only reason he didn't was bcs our federation's president wanted a sounding name ahead of the team, so he wouldn't be accused later on of not doing everything in his powers to get the Portugal the title...

Grunger0x: I agree that players are more relaxed when it's a friendly and not an official game. Still, you can't forget the fact that it's not a friendly just for Portugal, but for both teams. Spain, England and Italy all worked hard, and we did not.

About the Scolari feud, I'm not going to stand between the brazilians fight here :), but I'll hit the same note: what makes a team exceptional is their mental attitude, the will to run the extra mile, the hunger for victory(ies). This Portugal with Scolari will never have that simply bcs the coach has the opposite attitude.

Hey, I give Scolari credit for winning the WC. Okay, so Brazil has a team full of fantastic players, the best of the world; so they were helped against Belgium; so they didn't play that well anyway; but still I've seen some bloody good brazilian teams fail over the years, but Scolari won it.

Originally posted by INFESTA
That's a sacking in my book. People already said at the time Agistinho should stay, and the only reason he didn't was bcs our federation's president wanted a sounding name ahead of the team, so he wouldn't be accused later on of not doing everything in his powers to get the Portugal the title...

Grunger0x: I agree that players are more relaxed when it's a friendly and not an official game. Still, you can't forget the fact that it's not a friendly just for Portugal, but for both teams. Spain, England and Italy all worked hard, and we did not.

About the Scolari feud, I'm not going to stand between the brazilians fight here :), but I'll hit the same note: what makes a team exceptional is their mental attitude, the will to run the extra mile, the hunger for victory(ies). This Portugal with Scolari will never have that simply bcs the coach has the opposite attitude.

Hey, I give Scolari credit for winning the WC. Okay, so Brazil has a team full of fantastic players, the best of the world; so they were helped against Belgium; so they didn't play that well anyway; but still I've seen some bloody good brazilian teams fail over the years, but Scolari won it.
I didnt say players got more relaxed because it was a friendly. That was William. And we brazilians are not fighting too, just the occasional debate of course. What MaryMoon said, i agree 100%. He's predictable, i mean, he makes always the same subs on training, if he is training the team 5 days before the match he always makes the same subs.

And when we play the game, he goes there and makes the same subs he made on training. The opposition coach always realize that and he always have a counter for our subs. Plus he always plays the same way, boring football and he doesnt call-up our best players. And he's playing both Ronaldinho Gaucho and Kaká out of position, not to mention Zé Roberto and Gilberto (who doesnt play the DMC position at Arsenal, he plays mostly at right, WHEN he plays). We need another central defensive midfielder, or you call up Emerson (sad to say..) or find someone else. Gilberto is making a foul of himself on the centre, he was making atrocious tackles against Paraguay, not to mention the own goal against Uruguay.

The term fight was rethorical, thought it was clear. ;)

Next time, put "fight" then. I'm a bit slow...:crazyboy:

mancini sucks, plus Brasil already have belleti
Parreira is predictable, but its ok cuz Brasil has the players to make anything they want happen.
But back to Portugal....

Originally posted by INFESTA
That's a sacking in my book. People already said at the time Agistinho should stay, and the only reason he didn't was bcs our federation's president wanted a sounding name ahead of the team, so he wouldn't be accused later on of not doing everything in his powers to get the Portugal the title...

It was already known that Augustinho was just an interim coach for the team. The only bad game he had was against Tunisia, but considering the result they(Tunisia) had against the French that same month we did pretty damn well against them. So to be completely honest it wasn't really a sacking, it's not as if they hired him and everybody knew he'd be on until Euro. A sacking would be when a team is fed up with bad results, obviously, that can't be said in this case. Everybody knew from day one that Augustinho was to be demoted back to youth coaching, and the only reason that didn't happen was because of the results he got.

Originally posted by WilliamFAlmeida
mancini sucks, plus Brasil already have belleti
Parreira is predictable, but its ok cuz Brasil has the players to make anything they want happen.
But back to Portugal....
Are you serious?:o We already have Belletti.. yeah right, the lad is a joke..

mancini sucks, and Belletti is way better IMHO
When is portugal's next friendly?

Well, if you Brasilians like Scolari, you can have him back, because here in Portugal he doesn´t have been very fortunate, why?

1º his choices for the national squad have been at least very strange (Vitor Baia who is the best portuguese goalkeeper being pushed aside, Maniche who is probably the most complete portuguese miedfielder being keept aside, F. Meira being also keept aside with his natural skills to play as CD or DM)

2º his salary (more or less € 100.000,00/monthly) should make him see many more live games in the superliga than he has been watching. Besides he goes to Brasil to many times and he stays there for weeks. We get the idea that he came to portugal to spend his holidays!

3º he doesn´t have a good relation with portuguese media, or with Porto city media, in a press conference he reply to a jornalist question "- Are you a northern (porto is in the north) jornalist?" "- No, i´m from lisbon!" - "Thank god!" This answer was a shame!!
In the days before the UEFA final between FCP and Celtic a journalist ask him if he wanted to wish good luck for the portuguese side, his answer? No, because he said that if he did that he had to do it every time a portuguese side played against a foreign side!! Unbeliavable!! the portuguese are paying him € 100.000 for month and he doesn´t wishes that a portuguese team win the Uefa Cup!


4º he was World champion with Brasil, sure, but that win was a result of several strange facts ocurring at the same time that will not happen in another world cup for the next century, one of the most strong contenders for the win were out of shape (France), Spain and Italy were robbed against Korea and eliminated for that, Argentine were clearly beneath their huge potential, even the weakest germany national team of all time, made it to the final and that speaks for itself, besides being world Cup champion with Brasil is nothing out of this world.

When Otto Rehhagel took over the Greek NT, almost everyone in Greece waved heads in disbelief. First match in Helsinki (WC '02 qualifiers), a slaughter for the Greeks, 5-1 to Finland (4-1 in halftime), and a nasty quarrel between Rehhagel and Georgatos ,one of Greece's better players. A glimmer hope of improvement against England at Old trafford, with Beckham equalising (2-2) in the very last second with a banana free-kick.
Criticism and scepticism all over the place, as everyone started to protest against Rehhagel's choices. Start of the EC '04 qualifiers,0-2 to Spain in Athens, 0-2 to Ukraine in Kiev. Take Rehhagel's head off right now, everyone demanded, he's a tourist, he just came here for a part-time job before his retirement, he's useless etc. etc.
One year later? Greece has qualified for the EC Finals, first in their group (yeah, the same group with Spain and Ukraine), having been undefeated for the last 15 matches!!! Matches against the likes of Spain, Portugal, Sweden (all away), Norway, Switzerland etc. And Herr Rehhagel is quite popular, at least in the local media, despite some small arguments on which players he calls.
A small story for my Portuguese friends. Greeks and Portuguese have almost the same quick-tempered mentality, so this post is not irrelevant. I don't know what Scolari will achieve, but just give him a chance until the Finals. After all, friendly matches are just for practice, aren't they?

Originally posted by Groogster
besides being world Cup champion with Brasil is nothing out of this world.

yes and being world champion with Italy or Argentina is nothing out of this world too.. thinking well i think winning a world cup is very easy. :rolleyes:

PS: you throw all this points against scolari but why didn't you put here what he said to defend himself?

Brasil won the WC because they were the best team...
and Felipao didnt have good media relations in Brasil either....
thats why in the finals a fan held up a sign that said "voces vao ter que me engulir"

Originally posted by Punkt
yes and being world champion with Italy or Argentina is nothing out of this world too.. thinking well i think winning a world cup is very easy. :rolleyes:

PS: you throw all this points against scolari but why didn't you put here what he said to defend himself?

there´s a huge diference between "nothing out of this world" (= not extraordinary) and "very very easy" like you said.

Winning a world cup with Brasil can be achived with a regular coach but winning the european cup with portugal demands an extraordinary coach and i don´t think that Scolari is extraordinary, in fact i think that he is well overrated!


Concerning the things that scolari said to defend himself, well we all know why he did that. He was forced to do so, by the Portuguese media and by Gilberto Madail, if he didn´t retract himself he wouldn´t have the conditions to be the National coach anymore, ;)

While Parreira calls up the player wich he thinks would fit better at his preferred formation Scollari tries to fit the best players in a good formation. Scollari is obviously right!!!!
Parreira is a moron, I hate his face, I hate the way he talks and I hate everything about him

lame~~

Originally posted by pool4ever
lame~~
What The ****?
:confused:

Was watching SIC yesterday and even Juninho from Lyon is defending Scolari. It's ridiculous, Scolari has all of the FPF + all of Brazil licking his balls.

Originally posted by WilliamFAlmeida
Felipao didnt have good media relations in Brasil either....
thats why in the finals a fan held up a sign that said "voces vao ter que me engulir"
no... that was because the fan is illiterate....... it should have been "engolir", I suppose

Originally posted by Aveirenses
Was watching SIC yesterday and even Juninho from Lyon is defending Scolari. It's ridiculous, Scolari has all of the FPF + all of Brazil licking his balls.

But ofc, hes the best coach in the world.

kibe-
my bad, I have bad Portuguese....though I was born and raised in Brasil, Ive been living in the US for the past 10 years, so
meu Portugues e muito ruin -(I prolly mispelled something there too)

Yeah u did, its "ruim"