crew willingness to improve mz

i been a member of mz for 5 days now and enjoyed every single one of them....one of the best part about mz is, unlike cm4 & tcm03, it allows u to test your managing skills against millions of live-managers across the world...but, from what i've heard, one of its worse part is crew willingness to improve this already great game that is spreading around the world at a fast paste, just like sars did in asia.

im new so i only go from what im hearing and what ive saw during my short infant mz-career, but anyone disagree, please do so.

they've added mz-real-play,mz-analyzer and tactical. i congratulate them on that because it's a great business and money decision. if i owned a credit-card, i wouldn't hesitate to pay for them,specially mz-live..but crew needs to realise at least 50% of mz players are very young(18 or under)so therefore, only a few can get those mz-packages or enter cup games for that madder.

there's a time bug currently present on mz that shouldn't be so hard to fix. and players deterriotion at a too early age is a big problem in my opinion.

these 2 problem should be fix as fast as possible, but im looking for much more, a game inhencement on a season-by-season paste should be great.
the thingz i would like to see added is
1-the "assist" stat,
2- player contract
3-players moral which will bring player to life.
4- an improve live-text mode that will allow u to read throught and follow your team whyle they're playing live.

im not asking for cm4, but crew can take baby-steps to add these new features, it would be great.
mz is rapidly growing across the globe, and crew need to keep up with its paste to keep its members interested in mz. i can imagine the day i will be seeing iraq-leagues and many others in mz.

Well CM4 is apparently full of bugs, so I'd hope you're not asking for CM4.

The Crew are very busy, so not everything gets done... they must have a priority order, with bug fixes to the simulator etc. more important than adding new features.

Hopefully the time zone bug will be fixed soon, with regards to payment, in some countries you can use debit cards or SMS. Apparently near the end of this year they will add national sides as well.

Welcome to MZ and I'm glad you're enjoying it so far. What's your team name/user name etc.?

I disagree that the worst part MZ is the Crew willingness to improve the game. They are constantly making improvements (e.g. the match sim is updated every few months to try and make it more realistic).

Everyone will have different ideas about what needs changing and improving and they can't please everyone, but the changes that are put in need to make the game more fun not necessarily more realistic. By this I mean I wouldnt want contracts because it wouldn't be fun if your best player decided he didn't want to play for you he wanted to play for a bigger team. Apart from anything else it would make the divide between big teams and small teams even greater.

Players moral is sort of in there, as the form stat I suppose.

I like the idea of an assist stat though (Maybe you could put it in the suggestions forum in Managerzone?) and I agree that the text commentary could be improved alot and I think some MAs and GAs have made some suggestions of how to improve it. They'll be leaving in the legendary "the supporters held their thumbs" though (I hope)!.

My username is jeanblaise and my team name is allegation FC something like that i dont really remember and dont care, i cant wait untill i get enought money so i can change the club's name to "Jesus Christ United"

Now back to the topic, your comment about you not wanting a realistic SIM but instead a more FUN-SIM, bothers me a lot. Hopefully , these guys doesnt share the same opinion as you. I would hate an ARCADE-SIM just to be fun, it'll be discusting Plus i've noticed certain things that suggest that if they are willing to enhance this game, they will move toward making it a realistic SIM, more like a real-life kinda thing..they are using real leagues's name for every nation for ex: U.S.A top division is called M.L.S and ENGLAND first division is named PREMIERESHIP DIVISON something like that i dont live in england.
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I hate the idea of players having a contract and morals...

WHY NOT,????? WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL HUH?

because im afraid to loose my young superstars to a richer club??

WELL TOO BAD, THIS IS WHAT A NORMAL MANAGER IN THE LOWER-DIVISION GOES THROUGHT I GUESS YOU WOULD LEARN TO ACCEPT IT UNTILL U GET RICH LIKE THEM.

well, this is not real life, this is MZ..

MZ IS A GAME IN WHICH YOU TEST YOUR MANAGING SKILLS AGAINST OTHERS, ADDING CONTRACT AND MORALS WILL ONLY ADD TO THE EXCITEMENT BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO BE REAL SKILLED TO BE A TOP MANAGER. THE CHALLENGE IS WHAT WE WANT, THE BIGGER IT IS, THE MORE WE THRIVE TO GET TO THE TOP.

well i dont want it because it's too much for me, i cant handle all this.

OK, I UNDERSTAND YOU CANT TAKE THE PRESSURE, BUT IF YOU TAKE A POLL AND ASK MZ-MEMBERS IN WHAT DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MZ HEAD, A FUN AND REAL EASY SIM, OR A CLOSE-TO-REAL-LIFE-EVERY-DAY-MANAGERIAL-SIM, 90% OF THE VOTERS WILL VOTE, A CLOSE TO REAL LIFE SIM.
THIS IS WHY "CHAMPIONSHIP MANAGER" COMMUNITY IS THE LARGEST GAMING COMMUNITY IN THE WORLD, THE FAN WANTS THE REAL THING, NOT THE FUN AND EASY THING, I WANT TO FEEL LIKE IM A REAL MANAGER OUT THERE.
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You get my point? i understand that all that is way too complicated but i really feel MZ should improve the game in that direction if they are willing to improve it.

I feel like crew dont have a clue on the monster they've just creaded, this game has a chance to be even more popular then the CM'a series because they are a lot of real-life aspect to it, like for example, we play a league game every sunday, and the time is real and everything is real, all they have to do is improve the game step-by-step into a GIANT that it can be.

thanks to anyone that read everything.

cry me a river..

Now back to the topic, your comment about you not wanting a realistic SIM but instead a more FUN-SIM, bothers me a lot. Hopefully , these guys doesnt share the same opinion as you. I would hate an ARCADE-SIM just to be fun, it'll be discusting Plus i've noticed certain things that suggest that if they are willing to enhance this game, they will move toward making it a realistic SIM, more like a real-life kinda thing..they are using real leagues's name for every nation for ex: U.S.A top division is called M.L.S and ENGLAND first division is named PREMIERESHIP DIVISON something like that i dont live in england.

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I want a realistic sim but its other features of the game that don't need to be realistic. I don't want player contracts. If you'd been playing this game as long as I had you'd know there are certain teams who have alot more money than others. We can call them 'Chelski' for the purpose of this. If Chelski want to offer a contract to your best player he will accept because they can offer him bigger wages. Realistic? Yes... but it wouldn't be fun anymore. And I've noticed certain things that suggest it's not a realistic game in most aspects: most teams play over 11 games each week.

WELL TOO BAD, THIS IS WHAT A NORMAL MANAGER IN THE LOWER-DIVISION GOES THROUGHT I GUESS YOU WOULD LEARN TO ACCEPT IT UNTILL U GET RICH LIKE THEM.

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I think if you're planning becoming a manager of a real club you're playing the wrong game as part of your training. I'm not a real manager and have no inclination to be one. I'm quite happy with my seat in the stands each week.

MZ IS A GAME IN WHICH YOU TEST YOUR MANAGING SKILLS AGAINST OTHERS, ADDING CONTRACT AND MORALS WILL ONLY ADD TO THE EXCITEMENT BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO BE REAL SKILLED TO BE A TOP MANAGER. THE CHALLENGE IS WHAT WE WANT, THE BIGGER IT IS, THE MORE WE THRIVE TO GET TO THE TOP.

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If you were really skilled you'd become a 'top manager' without twocing other team's players.

OK, I UNDERSTAND YOU CANT TAKE THE PRESSURE, BUT IF YOU TAKE A POLL AND ASK MZ-MEMBERS IN WHAT DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MZ HEAD, A FUN AND REAL EASY SIM, OR A CLOSE-TO-REAL-LIFE-EVERY-DAY-MANAGERIAL-SIM, 90% OF THE VOTERS WILL VOTE, A CLOSE TO REAL LIFE SIM.
THIS IS WHY "CHAMPIONSHIP MANAGER" COMMUNITY IS THE LARGEST GAMING COMMUNITY IN THE WORLD, THE FAN WANTS THE REAL THING, NOT THE FUN AND EASY THING, I WANT TO FEEL LIKE IM A REAL MANAGER OUT THERE.

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Easy? No matter what the sim is like only 50% of the managers can be on the winning side. It's not about making the game any easier, it's about keeping the fun-ness in it. You want to feel like you're a 'real manager?' Then how is playing a computer game going to help you achieve that?

And what's with the caps anyway?

Hey blaise. Welcome to MZ and the forums. I agree mostly with your way of looking at it.

Looks like to you (and I) realism would represent "fun," while Ash prefers to drift away from the real world and would like to explore the fun and fantasy aspects on MZ that's otherwise impossible in real life, which happens to be perfectly logical. And I think more than 10% of the communion would be inclined to agree with Ash. I guess, we'd have to agree to disagree.

Now onto what methinks: So, yes, I would like see a more realistic verson of the game, but the keen idea of having player contracts will be far away from no. 2 in my list. If you think about it, it's a whole lotta work for the already busy crew (yes, they ARE constantly improving the game. things like bugs tend to slow them down.). Not only will the managers will have to negotiate on the transfer fees, but also will have to negotiate with the players on their salaries. I'm afraid instead of taking only 24-25 for a transfer to take place, in that way it's gonna take over a week. I like how the current market operates, and how the salaries are issued every season by the game engine. As of now methinks there are far more important thinks to take care of that will make both parties (our's and Ash's) happy.

One of which is stats on assists. Brilliant idea! If they're gonna show goals, yellow and red cards, there oughtta be assists too. It should be easy for the crew as well.

An improved live text should be top of the chart as well. It needs to be more descriptive, less grammatically challenged; more phrases and "hints" need to be added as well. I think as of now the text comments more than necessary on throw-ins, but fails to elaborate on the more important matter of free-kicks. Good runs by players and life saving tackles must be added on. It would be nice if somebody could mention the man of the match.

A look at players' moral will be cool. In addition, issues regarding youth seems to be quite urgent, and rightfully so. More people are lamenting on the training report and info (or lack thereof). These things, along with the match simulator (another very important aspect of the game), are already being looked at.

I agree with Ash about the player contracts thing though, and I'm managing a team just outside the top division, and he is in the top division in England (he narowlly missed out on the title as well, which would've officialy speaking made him the best in England). MZ don't like the teams at the top to have more advantages over the teams at the bottom, having player contracts and players leave will see them lose out on a lot of money. The smaller clubs may need this money to survive if they have to sell, of keep the player to help them build a strong team. While it would be realistic to have a 10 ball English striker join the English champions AFC Swish, it would make it less equal and as a business MZ need to keep as many customers happy as possible, as well as making sure the gap between top clubs and small clubs doesn't get to big for competitiveness reasons. I'd say more than 10% would agree with this, but I'm not going to put a figure on it as I don't know exactly how many do, just the same as you can't say "only 10%" to back up your views.
I also believe negotiating salaries won't work for as long as there's an auction bidding process for players on the transfer market. As this seems the best way to prevent cheaters, then a transfer could fall through due to not offering enough wages, while another club may have been able to afford the wages long term but not the transfer fee short term.

I agree about the next commentary, this is essential as not everyone pays for the analyser or Live, for whatever reason. So for those without these packages are at a huge disadvatange as to seeing how tactics work and which ones they try out are best. There needs to be more in the text commentary at help compensate, but more recently the amount of text in match reports has been reduced.

Player morale is like the contracts suggestion in a way... if the player is unhappy and his contract is expiring, he'd most likely leave. If he nears the end of his contract and is unhappy, the manager may be forced to sell to get some money back. If he's happy though, he could want to sign a new contract... it's not a bad suggestion like the contracts one, but it could have the same problems as well.

Youths, don't get me started on those wasters. What will happen if there are no more decent youths in the game? And by that I should say international standard... it seems the only decent young players nowadays come from new teams, as it takes forever just to gain a few balls for youths (some of these have to be speed and stamina, two important skills that seems to have low atributes on youths and take the longest to train). Due to SMS payments needed to sign up in the UK, it limits the amount of members registered, and therefore players in the database overall, let alone decent young players. And even then, those managers are likey to want to keep them. I did. Just look at the English players in the MZNS link in my signature. None are under 20, I think the youngest is 22 and I need to update his age as he's turned 23 today. At this rate it seems players won't be of a high standard until their mid twenties after seasons of training, and by that time they can start deteriorating. Speakig of those, a better training report wouldn't go a miss either.

im not asking crew to just add contract and morals next year, all im asking them is to consider them cause the majority of MZ fan would love to see these features because there is a real-life aspect to it that the world love.

im starting to get irritated with people that's trying to shut this idea out of the sky by just saying, " well this will make the richer teams richer and the small teams poorer" what do you espect? do you want a 5 division team to have the same financial number then you?? , do you want a last division team to compete bid-for-bid toe-for toe for a star player in the transfer list?? do you want a lower division team to be able to say," well i may be a div.5 team, but i have as big of a chance to beat u?"

to me this issue of BALANCE is none-sense talk....there is already a great balance problem in MZ so why trying to act like they arent a huge one and pretend contract and moral will open a flood-gate.
1. swedes teams already has one immense advantage and i will never whinn about it, you know why? because they got there first so the deservly got it.

2.in the stranfer market, the way it is currently set up, if a small team makes a bid for a player, and a bigger team wants that same player, he will have it, no madder what..so i dont see how can "contract and moral" make things any worse for small teams..

3. all these talk about, the majority of MZ member would rather things stay the same as they currently are, are false...i would bid any amount of money on, if you take a poll tommorow and ask evereyone that logg in MZ whether they would like to see "contract and moral added in the near future" the majority would say yes you know why?, because this "balance issue" already exist, and contract and morals arent going to make things any worse then they are..people will accept them just like they accept seeing a bunch of sweden teams on top of the ranking table.

im not trying to be offensive but it bothers me a lot when people only look at the negative aspect of certain ideas and fail to take a look at the many positive things that may take place if these features are installed in the near future
One of my answer to back up that the majority will back me up on this is just 2 word"championship manager" SI's community" i dont see anyone whinning saying it's too hard to get a conferance teams to the top?? do you espect it to be easy?? no it shouldnt, this is a challenging game and many lower division teams will accept this challenge
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Plus it's not like division 5 teams plays premiere division teams a lot unless they playing cup-games or friendlies so they will compete with these teams in their division that are also accepting the disadvantage of being a lower division teams. everytime they get promoted, they'll adjust to the next level.
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this last statement above is very important to understand.

Please mister ASH, do not feel like im attacking your views i just strongly disagree with them. my reasonning for the caps is because, since they arent any color so i can use to show that 2 differante person with 2 differante views are talking, i used, one with cap and one with small letter.

Well the fact is that certain countries have been in the game longer and will have a bigger advantage , and can't possibly be compared with real life , i play and really you should think through your ideas a bit more ..... and plus the fact that you've just came into mz will be different compared with cm4 which you may well have played before joing mz and the main point of mz is to win cups for prizes and with that in mind , cm4 does not give out prizes but mz does and would you want one team being greedy and winning every cup, anyway besides that all i'm saying is think it through and give yourself time to get settled in before , going all out , saying i want this i want that , And you may not know how much e-mails mz will get a day plus the maintainance works they put in plus fixing bugs.

I'm not in anyway pushing out the idea all i'm saying is give yourself time to adjust to mz , as it is very different from CM4 and the like

****, stop writing sooooo much, people. It took me 40 minutes to read and understand all this. You, know there are some shortening rules in english language, please use them, to make our lives easier . Thanks.

I agree with Ash contracts would ruin the game, all your star players will leave and you will have nothing but a bunch of 34,000 worth players on your side you'll be trying to work them up to greatness and when they do your team would have been renegated so much that the great players you worked so hard to train will want to join a better club.

i disagree with greeny and ash. contract will not ruin this game. i think it is a little sloppy the way it is right now you should not be able to keep a player for as long as you want. Hopefully, with time, contract will be added.
Maybe we can have a poll set up on MZ main forum and see what people think i agree with blaise when he said the majority might vote yes for it.

"im not asking crew to just add contract and morals next year, all im asking them is to consider them cause the majority of MZ fan would love to see these features because there is a real-life aspect to it that the world love."

Majority of MZ fans? Have you asked these people or is it just your opinion?

"2.in the stranfer market, the way it is currently set up, if a small team makes a bid for a player, and a bigger team wants that same player, he will have it, no madder what..so i dont see how can "contract and moral" make things any worse for small teams.."

It's not the bigger team, it's the team with the most money. If they sell a player for £600k for example (like I saw a team just do), they can spend this on another player and outbid a team like mine, as I haven't saved up that much money.

"3. all these talk about, the majority of MZ member would rather things stay the same as they currently are, are false..."

Again, any figures to back up this statement?

"people will accept them just like they accept seeing a bunch of sweden teams on top of the ranking table."

People accept Sweden being better because they were when they joined. If MZ do something to make it more unbalanced NOW, they won't be happy, as they'll see it as now being harder. And people may accept Sweden being better, but that doesn't mean we aren't all trying to close the gap and even things out.

Also, why keep comparing this game with CM? This game is setup differently from CM and MZ Crew must have a reason... most likely to give everyone else an equal opportunity to succeed. Like others have said, after a while of playing you will be able to form a better idea of how MZ works (not saying you will change your views (or not) btw).

If you want the player contracts and morale to be added, you need to give specific examples of how it would improve the game to convince us it'd be worthwhile. Saying "ADDING CONTRACT AND MORALS WILL ONLY ADD TO THE EXCITEMENT BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO BE REAL SKILLED TO BE A TOP MANAGER" isn't a good enough reason to add it. It's just an opinion with no evidence of why it would be good for all the managers. Please, give us examples of how it would benefit every manager.

Aberdeen City-the fact that i've just came into MZ doesn't mean anything. Experience has nothing to do with a man observing and giving his opinion on what could improve and attract the millions of real football fans around the world.

The main point of MZ is not to winn prizes!! only a few members participate in these cups that you must pay to enter. the majority cant enter them because of many reason so your point is false. The main point of mz is to get to your country top division,win as many trophies and be ranked as high as possible. the idea is to test your managing skills.

i dont need to think my thoughts throught again, and im not demanding contract to be added now..all i want is "players's contract" to be considered in the future..i cant possibly imagine that they will leave it the way it is currently set up.

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do you really thing im the only one with this opinion????? u cant possibly thing that, are you??? why dont you set up a poll (inside the mz forum, not in this forum, ash is a mod so people might back him up just for that reason) and be ready to bid that the majority would prefer an unrealistic and arcade mode that lets you keep a player for any amount of year with no chance of being free.. rather then a real life sim mode.


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It's not the bigger team, it's the team with the most money. If they sell a player for £600k for example (like I saw a team just do), they can spend this on another player and outbid a team like mine, as I haven't saved up that much money.
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when i say the bigger team, i mean the team with the most money this is obvious!!!! a big time team in the premiereship division will have more money then a team in div.5 99.9% of the time..im managing a team in div.5 and you're managing one in div.1(if im not wrong), if i generate more money then you, then you the worse manager in MZ history!.

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my figures are simple, just take a look at CM4 sales compare to TCM03 sales, CM4 is the fastest selling game in years, broke all records- this are my figures...again the reason why so many people are so addicted with it is the real life aspect that it generates..ive heard divorce papers being filed because of the game.

why cant i compare CM4 with MZ????? i dont understand that question at all....both games are managing football games..this is all they need to share to be comparable. it dont mather whether one is web game and one is software they both are managing football games.


you want example on how it will benefit others?? well sample, first the stranfer market wont be so horrible, the way it is currently set up, the only good players are the one that are deteriorating and declining skill-wise.
and just like sonya pointed out, being able to keep a player on your team for as long as u want then when he starts declining u just put him on the stransfer list, doesnt sound too good for me, i dont know for u. No wonder why the stransfer market is so horrible.

Crew could make the "player-contract" work easily if they are smart, it just requires some thinking for example:
every youth that get promoted to your A-squad automaticly starts a 4 or 5 or 6 year contract(depands on you) then when his contract ends he's lauched into the stransfer market for a certain amount of money, whatever he gets on the market, you will have the last bid to match anyone bids if you can match it then you keep him.

"do you really thing im the only one with this opinion????? u cant possibly thing that, are you???"

I never said you're the only person who wants player contracts, but you can't go and say the majority of people want them without no proof. A poll doesn't sound a good idea as these can be rigged, another way would be good, though.

"a big time team in the premiereship division will have more money then a team in div.5 99.9% of the time.."

Only if the club does well. Only the top two divisions can generate more money by a slightly higher attendance, so a div5 team can get as much as a div2 team for example (so last season when I was in div2, they could get the same sort of income). But although the top two divisions can get more, doesn't mean they will. Last season my league was easy, I won all my games and had full attendances a few times, which allowed me maximum income. A team in div6 could've done the same, and more likely to do so, as their leagues are weaker, and it's likely that they may be the only active team there. So winning the league is easier and therefore high attendances are, too. If you're a top team but struggle in the top leagues such as the Premier League, you will still get a fair bit of income, but not as much as if you were top. I think that only the top club can get maximum income for league games (12000 or something) unless the others have a very high rank.

"CM4 is the fastest selling game in years"

It was bound to be due to the past success of CM titles. Although I get your point. But comparing it to CM isn't what I saw after, I meant do you have a rough number of the amount of people that would want this (not plucked straight out of the air).

"why cant i compare CM4 with MZ?????"

CM is a game made to simulate real life, using real player names, club names, etc. MZ is based on real life but doesn't simulate real life. Therefore it doesn't need all the rules, such as the transfer system, there's no Bosman free transfers etc in MZ. They changed that to stop cheaters. And other things they'll change to make it fair.

Fair enough, you can compare them if you wish, but it sounds like you want MZ to become almost exactly the same as CM.

"the only good players are the one that are deteriorating and declining skill-wise."

Fair enough, I see your point. I'd like to see more decent players, mainly young ones. What would I do if I got them? Try to keep them as long as possible. And that's what people are doing now. But I believe the reason for this is because the youth system in MZ is poor, so decent young players are hard to come by, the very good players seem like ones who have been generated at new clubs, not ones people have trained up... I've noticed a lot of clubs sell their young players when they start to get a quick scource of income. So not everyone will keep their star players...

With Sonya living in the US, he's trying to find players in an established nation. Same here, except England now has SMS payments to join, so a lot of people are put off, and therefore our growth is limited, and so is our market. If we had a bigger market I think less people would see the need for player contracts. If it gets worse and there are only crap players on the list then your idea should be considered. But the thing is, half the members are Swedish, and they have an established transfer market, and their players are so good due to the amount of players out there. It'll take time for these players deteriorate, some are still only 20 and have 10 balls tackling, one had that and 5 heading, 7 speed. He has a low player id (10634 or something) so it means he was a youth, trained up when it was much easier to train players. And for as long as Sweden have these quality players, they probably won't want player contracts.

I feel that betters a youth system, better training system and deteriorations at a later age would help teams, as then with player contracts or not, they could train up and sell of players if they wish to do so. But if they want to keep them, player contracts could see them train up their youths and spend a lot of time and effort (and money) on youths and coaches, only to see another club take them. The only way that'd work is to have a compensation fee, maybe their value or their value x1.5 or something... clubs wouldn't sell young starlets for cheap sums, they'd want more, so if their contracts' expired, then they'd get a ompensation fee like in real life. If this was to be implemented, how would it work on the transfer system? Would players be put up at their value, and have bids on them? Then it'd be the clubs with the most money that would get them (esp. if they've just had a home league match, they're at an advantage over those that haven't).

"then when his contract ends he's lauched into the stransfer market"

I don't like the sound of that... you'd have to buy your own player to keep him? If you don't have the winning bid (whether you tried to keep the youth or not), then you'd get the money, fine. But having to pay loads just to keep your youth if you do want him doesn't sound good. I think this would only work with morale... if they are happy and want to stay, fine, they'll sign a new contract. If not, they'll go on the transfer list. But I think this should happen a season before their contract expires, so you have time to sell and buy a replacement, or use him for the season and then watch him leave and get some compensation. Or you could have him change his mind at the end of the season if you do well... so there's a risk if you try to cash in early... keep them and they migth change their mind... if they don't, you will sell them for x amount, and you migth've been able to get more at the start of the season as they would've been younger, etc.

Now you've explained it better I can see some good ideas, to get it to work on MZ is a different matter, it'd need to be fine tuned until it's perfect. If you want this in you'd have to show all the pros and cons... now I've thought about it, it could be good, but only if implemented properly (i.e. such as compensation, signing new contracts if they don't want to leave, etc).

Crew could make the "player-contract" work easily if they are smart, it just requires some thinking for example:
every youth that get promoted to your A-squad automaticly starts a 4 or 5 or 6 year contract(depands on you) then when his contract ends he's lauched into the stransfer market for a certain amount of money, whatever he gets on the market, you will have the last bid to match anyone bids if you can match it then you keep him.

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Actually that doesnt sound so bad. But wouldn't this just leave loads of players all going on the transfer list at the same time? If so then it would cause problems with the server like with the bankruptcy rule.

Also wouldn't people get quite annoyed if they won the bidding for a player, only for the team that owns the player to just match the last bid? I know I would.

Same here, just as annoyed that I'd have to pay x amount to keep my own youth player (and obviously the more the better).

Anyway, like I said, some good ideas but it needs some work.

Same here, just as annoyed that I'd have to pay x amount to keep my own youth player (and obviously the more the better).

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Didn't even think of that problem (didnt realise there was another page when I posted my other message )

I often do that after following links from the main site... I don't look at how many pages there are unless I can see on the main forum, dunno why, guess I'm not used to vB boards really.