first of all let me ask this. the US has been talking over and over and over about breaking the geneva conventions when the American troops were shown on video basically just being questioned. but now saddam is showed getting a flea and lice check and shaving and this isnt breaking any geneva conventions?? that is just inhumane. i dont like the damn guy but he is a human too and he has rights also. why does the US get to break the laws and conventions but no one else cant?
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BREAKING NEWS ! Saddam Has Been Captured : CONFIRMED
- Thread starter Rob
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And one could say Bush urges his people to go out and fight wars while he kicks back in the oval office.
Anyway, put yourself in Saddams shoes. He definitely knows he won't be executed. At worst he will get a trial and a very long prison sentence. And even better, a trial that will be broadcast live on international television. And that is his chance to embarrass the americans one last time, because he has a deep personal knowledge of the assistance he was given by the americans throughout the seventies and eighties... information that the current administration has tried to keep hidden. After all, it was Rumsfeld who negotiated the deal for the stuff used to gas the kurds in Northern Iraq. Speaking of which, did you know that an investigation at the time undertaken by the Americans concluded that it was the Iranians who deployed the chemical weapons? My, how spin can change things.
And Sukur, we have reached a phase where the americans don't give a damn about international laws and treaties. They have got away with Guantanemo, they have got away with breaking weapons treaties, etc. etc. They think they can make the rules up as they go along, cos noone can stop them.
LilPlayaJosh
Reserve Team
yeah thats real ignorant. But if you want ignorance how about this... since our president/govt is so evil why dont someone liberate us?? I mean thats what your saying isnt it? I mean everyone talknig about Bush is worse than Saddam or Bush is gonna be the next Hitler. Some of yall need to grow up. Talking about 15 years we will hunt down our allies... ok whatever. And how does capturing Saddam have no relevence? I mean When we couldnt find him everyone was like why cant they find Saddam or wheres Saddam? Now since we found him its no relevence..... some people make me laugh
It is irrelevant as far as the Iraqi reistance goes. But it is relevant for propaganda purposes. I personally can't wait to hear the details of all the meetings between Saddam and Rumsfeld, all the forms of collusion the americans have had with him since 1958. Lets see if Bush tries to keep him quiet until after the election, or if Saddam suffers a 'mishap' and 'accidently dies' before he can go on trial. Another Ruby, anyone?
Well, because most people who think our regime is evil are against war in the first place. That's the first argument I could make there. And the reason they say we will be hunting down our allies fifteen years from now is because we're doing that now. I personally didn't care if we couldn't find Hussein or that we found him now. Good job, we caught an 'evil' (oh, how that word is tossed around) dude, yes. I'm sure he'll spew some pretty juicy information, but I bet it will be downplayed to hell by the US government and media. Oh yeah, have we found the reason why we went into Iraq in the first place? No. It's also funny that it took the United States and the world's best intelligence seven months to find him.
Anyway, I need to study for final exams, dammit.
xxxFLYERxxx
Starting XI
It doesnt matter what Bush did or didnt do. The left wing doesnt care, they will find something to complain about. Just like when Clinton was in office, the right did the same thing. And in this case, the extreme left wing individuals are worthless. I dont even waste my time on their bull****.
Originally posted by JTNY
Ah..... which world leaders who commit troops to war do not send out troops and expect some to die and do not themselves join the fight?
Died like a man....? Come on.
you're missing my point... saddam brainwashed his people into thinking he was some kind of mythical figure who was fearless and strong. now his people he urged for to die are seeing americans picking at him while he just sits there helpless.
but yeah i know where u and rhizome stand on this issue... and i can see how easy it is to see this whole iraqi conflict as bush's personal vandetta. didn't he say he was gonna get revenge on sadam after that assassination attempt on his dad in 94?
Oh it does so matter. Come on, if Saddam goes to a trial where the US are running the show, it will be a joke. Would you allow a murderer to be tried by his accomplice? Would that be fair on the victims?
No, I bet you wouldn't. Bush, or rather his old man and his mates, have been pals with Saddam for a long time. Rumsfeld described Saddam as a 'man of peace'. Now if these same guys are going to preside over a trial, there is no way it can be taken seriously.
m3th0d, I don't see the war as a personal vendetta. The war was planned from as long back as 1997 when Rumsfeld Wolfowitz et al were pressuring Clinton to invade Iraq. This war is just one step of many in an attempt to establish US hegemony and dominance acrss the globe.
great post joe 
xxxFLYERxxx
Starting XI
Because its you, Rhizome, i dont know if its Bush or Saddam you're talking about.
And I was saying, it doesnt matter what Bush does in regards to the liberals.
KoreaJjang
Senior Squad
Now that Saddam has been captured, its Osama Bin Laden Time~~