Originally posted by manutd4eva
- One of only two batsmen to ever score a Triple Century - the other being Don Bradman.
Don't you mean one of only two batsmen to score 2 triple centuries? Because there are quite a few who have scored triple tons..
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Originally posted by manutd4eva
- One of only two batsmen to ever score a Triple Century - the other being Don Bradman.
Originally posted by manutd4eva
I can never dispute Bradman's greatness, no one can. An average of 99.94 is just mind boggling.
But the reason I say Lara is better is because of the top quality bowlers Lara has had to face up to and along with the continuos pressure of having to be the leading batsman in a declining team over the last 12 years.
If he is not better then he is certainly right alongside him. He is now certainly better than Tendlukar, Sir Viv and Sir Gary.
But then again comparing batsmen from different eras is not usually a good idea.....or maybe I'm just biased.
The greatest batsman of the last 50 years no doubt though.
Originally posted by Alistair
Don't you mean one of only two batsmen to score 2 triple centuries? Because there are quite a few who have scored triple tons..
Originally posted by Rob
manutd4eva. I do not want to turn this into a Bradman vs Whoever thread but....
This sums up how good Bradman was. You mention you think Lara faced more quality bowlers? Bradman averaged 55 during BODYLINE. That is how good he was.
Originally posted by manutd4eva
maybe I'm just biased.
Originally posted by PaPaGeorGeo
AHAHAHAHAHA better bowlers now days thats crap no offense but the bowlers these days arent that great. Bradman played in the era when they didnt have all this protective gear. And pitches were made evenly not just to suit the batsman.
Lara is no doubt a world class player but he is not in Bradmans class nobody is
Originally posted by manutd4eva
maybe I'm just biased.
Originally posted by Alex
Remember: Mark Taylor on 334* at the end of play on the 2nd day against Paksitan (in Pakistan, much harder conditions than India on a flat track in the West Indies ), as captain, he declared the innings closed, and chased the win for the team...
Lara 313*, was too greedy, couldnt see past himself, and went for the record, not worrying too much about the team...I maen he was still 70 odd runs away from the record at the start of play, and 90odd from the 400 he wanted. Taylor was only 40 away from the record at the time....
I think this is the difference between the West Indies side (esp. Lara), and the Australian side (and the West Indies of the past for that matter)...Aust. always chase the win.
Well the people of the carribean should think...Originally posted by manutd4eva
Winning this test match would've done nothing for us. Last year after we did that record run chase against your lot there was talk everywhere that the West Indies have finally "turned the corner", which was just bullshit. We then beat a pretty poor Sri Lankan team after that 1-0 in a two test match series and there was more bullshit talk that we are now on the back to the top. Lara continued as captain.....
After that we went to South Africa and were brought down back to earth after going down 3-0 in the 4 test series. We drew the final test match which was supposed to be a feather in the cap for the team going in to the one-dayers. We were humilated in the one dayers. Lara again continued as captain......
Coming into this series we should've beaten England, a team that hadn't won a series in the West Indies for 36 years. We played poorly in all the matches except the last one. Poor captaincy, poor batting, and at times poor bowling. We lost the series, being bowled out for under a 100 twice in the same series which has never hapenned to us before.
We came into this last test match trying to avoid a whitewash (same as last year againt your lot and against the South Africans earlier this year). We have never been whitewashed in the Caribbean. Lara regaining the record has lifted the spirits of the Caribbean people more than a meaningless win in this final match would've done.
When Hayden broke the record last year there were people in the Caribbean that cried. It was the one thing we had to boast obout over the last ten years when our cricket as hit an all time low. When we lost the series a couple a weeks ago there were people who couldn't go to work or school. That's how much cricket means to Caribbean people. A win in this match would not have helped our situation, because once again there would be talk of us turning that corner - again. People would've for forgotten the events of the last couple of months, which for me have been the most embarassing in my time as a West Indies supporter (all my life).
I dont know if you understand what I'm saying or not, but if you dont, you would have to be a West Indian to see the difference in what winning the last test against Australia last year and Lara reclaiming the record means to West Indian people. We now have somethign to fall back on, it might sound like crap but well that's what our cricket is at the moment.
And there was never gonna be a result in this match based on the pitch. And when you said Taylor made his triple in more difficult conditions means that it wasn't the best batting pitch so a chance of a result was always there unlike this match.
Originally posted by manutd4eva
Not sure if you'll understand this or not but, this is what it means to us. As I said before you would have to be a West Indian to understand what that record means to us and what wining this test match would've meant. I just have a personal feeling that getting back that record has signalled the beginning of a new era in West Indies cricket more than winning this match would've done.
Originally posted by Alex
So 3-1 is still a loss? But atleast its something to build on, lifts team morale, and they start the next test series coming off a win.
Originally posted by Alex
So 3-1 is still a loss? But atleast its something to build on, lifts team morale, and they start the next test series coming off a win.