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sexuality: serious thread
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ok i know this thread has been dead for a while
but since starting the thread I have received various PM's and MSN conversations with people who have said that things written in this thread have changed the way that they look at people with different sexualities
just wondering if this is a global thing to all people who have read the whole of the thread, or just those who have contacted me.
Lets not make this into a debate about right/ wrong again, thats all been done, and people have made their views known on that issue, but not on the issue of acceptance in football
for instance, is it right that players are scared to admit being non straight, and i know that several premiership footballers are at least bi
but since starting the thread I have received various PM's and MSN conversations with people who have said that things written in this thread have changed the way that they look at people with different sexualities
just wondering if this is a global thing to all people who have read the whole of the thread, or just those who have contacted me.
Lets not make this into a debate about right/ wrong again, thats all been done, and people have made their views known on that issue, but not on the issue of acceptance in football
for instance, is it right that players are scared to admit being non straight, and i know that several premiership footballers are at least bi
it's a bad stereotype, you know being gay and stuff like that. i mean in some religions it is a sin, and you know, most of the time society pushes across the fact that being gay/bi is not okay. in recent years, that has toned down, but man i remember times when you could not admit to being gay because it was "wrong". that kind of thinking is mainstream nowadays, but the mold is starting to crack.
what i have to ask is, and forgive me if this sounds somewhat vain and, for a lack of better word, ridicilous of me to ask, but how does one person feel attraction to both sexes? i ask this because i have a friend at work who's bi, has a gf and a bf, and i'm allright with it, its his life, his choices, i've been taught to respect everybody's way of life, no matter what it is. however, when i walk down a street i'll turn around and say "damn that girl's got a fine ass". i have yet to turn around and say "damn that guy has a fine ass", so the aspect of being bi is intriguing to me because i guess from my POV i see it as impossible. i couldn't read all 19 pages
but if someone could shed some light on it i'd appreciate it. i read the posts on this page but i don't know it felt like it was more shots back and forth instead of straightforward explanations.
what i have to ask is, and forgive me if this sounds somewhat vain and, for a lack of better word, ridicilous of me to ask, but how does one person feel attraction to both sexes? i ask this because i have a friend at work who's bi, has a gf and a bf, and i'm allright with it, its his life, his choices, i've been taught to respect everybody's way of life, no matter what it is. however, when i walk down a street i'll turn around and say "damn that girl's got a fine ass". i have yet to turn around and say "damn that guy has a fine ass", so the aspect of being bi is intriguing to me because i guess from my POV i see it as impossible. i couldn't read all 19 pages
but if someone could shed some light on it i'd appreciate it. i read the posts on this page but i don't know it felt like it was more shots back and forth instead of straightforward explanations.i am not offending any gay or bi, in US i have seen people who judge on the bases of what u wear, if a guy is wearing tight pants they start laughing at the guy thinking that he is gay, or even if a guy is wearing a ligh blue or light pink shirt they start making comments that he is gay, i mean thats so dumb, and while i was leaving in india noone makes any comments on what u wear, u can wear those late 70's baggies and no one will even have a thought of u being gay, actually half of them dont know what gay means. if a guy has his hand on his friends shoulder why does it makes u think that they r gay it can be a sign of their friendship, ok i agree that if u see them kissing each other, than they r, but in some religions man kiss each other on cheeks.
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SRB said:what i have to ask is, and forgive me if this sounds somewhat vain and, for a lack of better word, ridicilous of me to ask, but how does one person feel attraction to both sexes? i ask this because i have a friend at work who's bi, has a gf and a bf, and i'm allright with it, its his life, his choices, i've been taught to respect everybody's way of life, no matter what it is. however, when i walk down a street i'll turn around and say "damn that girl's got a fine ass". i have yet to turn around and say "damn that guy has a fine ass", so the aspect of being bi is intriguing to me because i guess from my POV i see it as impossible. i couldn't read all 19 pages
ok will give it a go
for me personally I find the physical form attractive. Some of the same characteristics are attractive in both Males and Females.
As strange as it may sound I find a toned stomach very attractive, now this is the same whether it is on a guy or a girl, as stomachs are not any different from 1 sex to the other.
In terms of overall attractiveness tho, for me this does not come from someones physicals appearence. I get more and more physically attracted to them as I know the person inside the body.
Obviously I can't speak for all bi-sexuals but I do know of 2-3 others who would say the same thing.
Bi-sexuality for me, isn;t about sex or physical attraction, it is about not letting the sex of your otherwise perfect partner stopping you from having something very special together
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king said:
that goes on in most places, but for some reason that doesn;t bother me. In some respects I think that people that dress like that have themselves to blame for standing out in a crowd, and in fact this is often the precise reason that they do it, for attention.
One of my mates is extremly camp, and he puts it on, because he likes to stand out in a crowd, people will walk down the streeet and shout "hows the boyfriend??" and they don't even know him
Matt just replies "Very well thank you!!" with a huge smile on his face and carries on.
now to me, he has to expect to be treated somewhat differently, but I talk and act like every other person in the street. It is the fact that once people know that I am bi, their whole attitude to me changes which I find annoying, even though my attitude and way of living my life hasn;t changed.
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king said:
you get a lot of those?
My views haven't been changed by this thread.
No, i dont get those kinda views, its just when me and my friends chill around and when they see a guy walking with this kinda outfit they start laughing and making comments. What if the guy is a tourist and he doesnt know the way we dress in US, and they have different kinda outfit in their country, i was in Moscow for 1 day and i saw like many people wearing those late 70's type of baggies now if they would have wear that in US everyone will think that they all r gay.Gerrard 17 said:
Sportsgaming thats true some people do that purposely, and thats dumb, i was in the subway and there were this two guys who were definately not gay and when they were exiting they put each other hands around each other shoulders and walking very close to each other,and one of them was like,"Everybody will think that we are Gay," Now thats dumb.
sportgaming said:
that's very well said. i just figured it was a basic physicall attraction that i guess lets people like both sexes. i mean i was just wondering because i can't in my head immagine feeling the same way for a guy like i do for a girl, simply because i can't... i mean its a stupid answer but i can kiss a guy on the cheek or hug him and still feel no attraction to him whatsoever, whereas if i do the same for a girl, im thinkin dirrrrrty thoughts
. its kinda vain, but i mean physical attraction is something that i've only found in women my whole life. on the other hand if we were talking about a deeper kind of connection, i've had that with a couple of friends, we've been good buddies for years now, and these guy i consider brothers, i can tell them anything and i mean they're the closest thing i've got to soulmates. we've been through a war together, family issues together, they're definitely more then friends, but i mean there's just not that "gay" factor i guess. i mean it sounds horrible to put it that way, but i don't know how to explain myself any other way. i was just lookin for some way to understand the thinking behind being bisexual, so sorry if i came across as a uneducated bigot sportgaming
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SRB said:so sorry if i came across as a uneducated bigot
didnd;t cme across as uneducated at all
my response was only describing the way that I see things
as I said in the original reply, my views may vary hugely from the vast majority of gay/ bi sexuals
and I do know that some people are automatically physically attracted to people
I can;t understand this either, but much int eh same way as I can;t understand why people would not want to spend the rest of their life with someone, just because they may be a different sex to what is considered the norm
everyione has their own views on things, and it is down to everyone else to respect those views.
Aslong as nobody tries to change my views, and impose their own thoughts onto me, then I have got no problem with people believing and understanding things n whatever way they see fit