Stokstaartje95;3956484 said:
Well the main problem is, nobody except you seems to care so extremely much about having ALL stadiums ingame. Thus, when they ask for the patch, they do not really ask for all stadiums to be in. They just want a bug free patch with all teams and kits (not even necessarily classic kits). Thus your pointing towards them about these stadiums is not justified. If you could not cope with a patch without these stadiums, you should have been realistic and give the patch out of your hands and let it be released by someone else. And nobody making the stadiums is not a reason to blame others, if the stadiums are not there and you are not capable of making that, the result is simple. You will have a patch without these stadiums.
It is not that I have a grudge against you or anything, but I’m getting annoyed by your ‘blame everything on the stadium makers and the missing stadiums’. We have to be realistic, nowadays the modding community is smaller than years ago and modding is harder as well. Back in the day when faces were still made using O-edit and team patches were released by the day, your demands could have been realistic, but now it is simply not plausible anymore.
Sure, don't think that I take it personally. Look, I'm the first one to be upset that the patch isn't released. However, I don't appreciate people saying that all I'm doing is begging for stadiums, blaming me that I haven't released a patch when the one thing it's missing are the stadiums. I converted all the available models to Blender and no-one acted on that to complete all the stadiums to FIFA. If I don't know how to convert, all I can do is ask.
Also, I don't think that I'd be the only one who doesn't want a patch with all stadiums; just because it's assumed gamers only want kits, rosters and a working tournament. I'm pretty sure that having all stadiums, as opposed to 85-90%, is always the preferred outcome - for any patch. In the case of the EURO patch, yes, all stadiums were there, all national stadiums' models exist in a format that can be added to FIFA. Sure, it'd be good to compromise. I did release a beta UEFA EURO 2016 patch anyway, just before the tournament started, so that gamers could play the tournament with the things I actually know how to do; the database + teams' rosters, as well as adding all the stadiums that had been made to that point. I can compromise for a beta. But, for a final release, then it just rolls over into v1.2, v4.7, v.9.99999; whenever stadiums X,Y,Z are ever made or not at all...
If it's just up to the fact that the modding community is smaller and that editing things now is harder because it's a different format; I don't think that's the case. It could be more of a reason that that SGF doesn't have many modders, or more precisely, modders who mod the one thing that we're talking about, which is the stadiums. FIFA-Argentina pump out their entire division's stadiums each year, there was that whole screwup with soccercrazy and Poliphemus a couple of seasons ago... so it's not like we are restricted to SGF in terms of the absolute knowledge of FIFA stadium making. However, the more people that could make stadiums (
myself included), the faster things could progress. So, I agree that having to ask for stadiums sucks, but, I am willing to learn how to convert stadiums too.
Like I've posted here; I exported all the models of all UEFA national stadiums to an editable format for Blender from PES6 and the old FIFA format. Quite a few of the stadiums got converted to FIFA, leaving us short by, what, a dozen stadiums? That might not matter to some, but like I said, take the example of everyone asking for complete leagues and say that it doesn't apply to the national teams/international tournaments too. Just because the leagues are more popular, doesn't mean that people would prefer to not have all national stadiums, if they are all available, as opposed to a high percentage short of 100%.
I've just unblocked all the available national stadiums for all confederations, from PES6 and the old FIFA series, so that they can be accessible to those stadium makers who will want to make them for any RTWC2018 patch planned for FIFA17. These are all the stadiums from the MEGA collection organized by Rechi on evo-web forums. I might not be the major lead on such a patch (could be jschuck), but they are all there, if any group of modders will want to add them to FIFA17.
