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Tournaments crashing the game?

Forlan10

Forlan10

Club Supporter
New developments in my adventures in FIFA-modding.
I'm trying to make a more complete national team tournament structure and, to that end, I expanded the Asian Cup, African Cup and Gold Glory Cup to have proper matches, and I also decided to create qualifiers for North America and Africa (also fixing it so each confederation will have the same number of entrants in the World Cup as IRL). However, they make my game crash if I so much as enter Manager or Tournament mode.
I made sure to use unassigned ID numbers for these qualifiers so there would be no conflict (I used this method for continental club tournaments and that worked - it only happens with these NT tournaments) and I regenerated the files afterwards with FHL-BH, but that didn't work.
Does anyone have any idea why this happens?
 
Forlan10

Forlan10

Club Supporter
ovide said:
Edit manually dlc folder
You have to check schedule, advancement, standings and all the stuff
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OK but, how do I do it?
Just looking at the files it's all Greek to me, I'm not sure which numbers are what, what will change if I add or take out something... I feel lost from looking.
Do you know what to do, or can you link some sort of guide?
 
Forlan10

Forlan10

Club Supporter
ovide said:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gvzhdo57bcx92ze/Torunament Tutorial for Beginners v1.rar
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Yeah, so, I read it all and checked against my files and I found out that the changes I make on CM16 do affect them in the ways the documents described. However, for some reason, one line in a tournament was added without a space, and that's what made the modes crash even before I could enter them. Who would've thought?
I can enter most tournaments on Tournament Mode now (with the exception of the ones I added), but Manager's still giving me a heck of a hard time. Anyway, you've been a big help, so thanks.
 
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Rizzaldio

Youth Team
Forlan10 said:
Yeah, so, I read it all and checked against my files and I found out that the changes I make on CM16 do affect them in the ways the documents described. However, for some reason, one line in a tournament was added without a space, and that's what made the modes crash even before I could enter them. Who would've thought?
I can enter most tournaments on Tournament Mode now (with the exception of the ones I added), but Manager's still giving me a heck of a hard time. Anyway, you've been a big help, so thanks.
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Hi mate, did you increase the number of international friendly games so that all teams are included? If you don't increase them this can cause the manager mode crash. E.g. if you have 70 national teams you will need to increase the number of teams to 70 and the games to 35. If you go beyond a certain limit you will need to increase the number of groups in friendlies to accommodate them all. Hope this helps in some way
 
Forlan10

Forlan10

Club Supporter
Rizzaldio said:
Hi mate, did you increase the number of international friendly games so that all teams are included? If you don't increase them this can cause the manager mode crash. E.g. if you have 70 national teams you will need to increase the number of teams to 70 and the games to 35. If you go beyond a certain limit you will need to increase the number of groups in friendlies to accommodate them all. Hope this helps in some way
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I did increase the number of national teams (I have 75), but I didn't know you had to also increase the number of matches - I thought they wouldn't all play at every date, and since there are always two legs over three match days in a week, the number of matches would be distributed among them throughout the week.
It's half the number of NTs, right? In this case, since I have an odd number, do I have to make it so the total per leg is 37 or 38?
EDIT: I decided to use both just to be sure, so for two-day legs I put 18 and 19, and on one-day legs I put 37 and 38. Except for the fact that my game won't progress beyond July 31 (which might have to do with something else actually), just the fact that I got into Manager Mode was proof that it worked. Thanks.
 
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igor04

Club Supporter
Hi @Forlan10,
Could you tell me which IDs you use for new international competitions? When I edit existing tournament - it works, but with new ID it crashes during career mode's running.
 
Forlan10

Forlan10

Club Supporter
igor04 said:
Hi @Forlan10,
Could you tell me which IDs you use for new international competitions? When I edit existing tournament - it works, but with new ID it crashes during career mode's running.
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I just used the ones that came by default: 940 for the CONCACAF Gold Cup, 950 for the Asian Cup and 960 for the African Nations Cup.
The only IDs I created were for the continental club competitions, 1004 for AFC Champions and 1005 for CAF Champions.
Also, check this thread and download the file there, it's very good reference.
 
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igor04

Club Supporter
Thank you, Forlan10! I created a tournament with ID 940 and it works, but... only as "Interqual". With "Intercup" settings tournament doesn't appear in the game - well, that's not a big problem for me, but the problem is that there are matches, I can see fixture, but table is not visible in the game. It's one group with 12 teams. I don't know why it's not visible, any ideas?
 
nikolapfc89

nikolapfc89

Youth Team
I am using scouser's fifa 19 converted db for 16. And i imported some new leagues in db.
Of course tournament is crashing when i click in game, and i want to ask, what do i need to do so i can play only CUSTOM tournament? I see i need to import many tables etc stuff but i dont need tournament mod, only custom for finals.
Thanx!
 
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igor04

Club Supporter
Forlan10 said:
Yeah, so, I read it all and checked against my files and I found out that the changes I make on CM16 do affect them in the ways the documents described. However, for some reason, one line in a tournament was added without a space, and that's what made the modes crash even before I could enter them. Who would've thought?
I can enter most tournaments on Tournament Mode now (with the exception of the ones I added), but Manager's still giving me a heck of a hard time. Anyway, you've been a big help, so thanks.
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@Forlan10 - do you remember which file this line without space was created in? :D
 
Forlan10

Forlan10

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UPDATE: I figured something out as I fiddled more.
It's not so much that the game won't let you add more qualifiers, it's actually that there's apparently a limit to the number of tournaments you can have in the game. And that limit seems to be 89. Any more than that will push the last tournaments in the list to a sort of out-of-bounds state which will make them unplayable.
Therefore, some sacrifices had to be made to fit my vision in the game: namely, I had to eliminate Ireland and Austria from the list, and I also deleted the French League Cup. I'm afraid of being forced to eliminate more tournaments, so I made it so that the African Cup of Nations and the Gold Cup would qualify for the World Cup instead.
 
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ebeninca

Club Supporter
Forlan10 said:
UPDATE: I figured something out as I fiddled more.
It's not so much that the game won't let you add more qualifiers, it's actually that there's apparently a limit to the number of tournaments you can have in the game. And that limit seems to be 89. Any more than that will push the last tournaments in the list to a sort of out-of-bounds state which will make them unplayable.
Therefore, some sacrifices had to be made to fit my vision in the game: namely, I had to eliminate Ireland and Austria from the list, and I also deleted the French League Cup. I'm afraid of being forced to eliminate more tournaments, so I made it so that the African Cup of Nations and the Gold Cup would qualify for the World Cup instead.
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Have you been able to make AFCON, Gold Cup and Asian Cup show up on the tables screen in career mode?

I've being editing the fip16 v6.2 CAF version and noticed this problem, it's playable, shows in the fixtures screen but it's annoying to not see these INTERCUPs on the tables screen.

My compid had 99 lines, I deleted multiple cups to make the compid smaller than 89, no change.

I tried multiple solution beyond that, like copying "Copa America" (which always work) and rename to Asian Cup adjusting the Asset id to 950, no success at all.

EDIT:

Ok, I found something, it's related to the Asset ID, I just switched the ids between "Copa America"(970) and "AFCON"(960), now AFCON always shows in place of "Copa America", no matter which NT you're managing...

Not ideal yet, but I'm thinking about finding a different ID to AFCON that works, or create a new one, looks like there's some things that goes outside of CM16 scope that needs to be done to make it work.

Maybe there's something hardcoded about which INTERCUP codes is shown, if it's true, then nothing I can do. Otherwise, I don't have the knowledge to fix this Asset ID problem yet, I'll need to search and test things.
 
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Robson Mambrini

Robson Mambrini

Reserves
Forlan10 said:
UPDATE: I figured something out as I fiddled more.
It's not so much that the game won't let you add more qualifiers, it's actually that there's apparently a limit to the number of tournaments you can have in the game. And that limit seems to be 89. Any more than that will push the last tournaments in the list to a sort of out-of-bounds state which will make them unplayable.
Therefore, some sacrifices had to be made to fit my vision in the game: namely, I had to eliminate Ireland and Austria from the list, and I also deleted the French League Cup. I'm afraid of being forced to eliminate more tournaments, so I made it so that the African Cup of Nations and the Gold Cup would qualify for the World Cup instead.
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Actually there are 100 tournaments, 100 lines in the compid file... however the limit in the settings is 4005 lines, the initteams 329 lines... and 6800 lines for the schedule.
 
Robson Mambrini

Robson Mambrini

Reserves
ebeninca said:
Have you been able to make AFCON, Gold Cup and Asian Cup show up on the tables screen in career mode?

I've being editing the fip16 v6.2 CAF version and noticed this problem, it's playable, shows in the fixtures screen but it's annoying to not see these INTERCUPs on the tables screen.

My compid had 99 lines, I deleted multiple cups to make the compid smaller than 89, no change.

I tried multiple solution beyond that, like copying "Copa America" (which always work) and rename to Asian Cup adjusting the Asset id to 950, no success at all.

EDIT:

Ok, I found something, it's related to the Asset ID, I just switched the ids between "Copa America"(970) and "AFCON"(960), now AFCON always shows in place of "Copa America", no matter which NT you're managing...

Not ideal yet, but I'm thinking about finding a different ID to AFCON that works, or create a new one, looks like there's some things that goes outside of CM16 scope that needs to be done to make it work.

Maybe there's something hardcoded about which INTERCUP codes is shown, if it's true, then nothing I can do. Otherwise, I don't have the knowledge to fix this Asset ID problem yet, I'll need to search and test things.
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The CONCACAF, AFRICA qualifying tournament does not appear in the standings during the season... it only makes you see your participating group or the game schedule even in terms of dates and results... only with these two modules did I not get this result, maybe using a generic ID is possible. Worth a try!
 
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ebeninca

Club Supporter
Robson Mambrini said:
The CONCACAF, AFRICA qualifying tournament does not appear in the standings during the season... it only makes you see your participating group or the game schedule even in terms of dates and results... only with these two modules did I not get this result, maybe using a generic ID is possible. Worth a try!
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I noticed the guy who made de fip16 mod "created" new asset IDs for CAF Champions League (3003) and CAF Confederation CUP (3013), these codes are not documented at all.

I'm wondering, what it takes to create a new asset ID? There's something outside CM16 that needs to be previously done?

This information is important, can solve the problem. Or, doesn't it matter in this case? other obscure things prevent these INTERCUPs to show up?
 
Robson Mambrini

Robson Mambrini

Reserves
ebeninca said:
I noticed the guy who made de fip16 mod "created" new asset IDs for CAF Champions League (3003) and CAF Confederation CUP (3013), these codes are not documented at all.

I'm wondering, what it takes to create a new asset ID? There's something outside CM16 that needs to be previously done?

This information is important, can solve the problem. Or, doesn't it matter in this case? other obscure things prevent these INTERCUPs to show up?
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Here are the great unrevealed mysteries, but if you create alternatives for them... what matters is that it works.
 
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