2018 FIFA World Cup Russia Patch - FIFA16,18 or Official Game

[Ciais]

Wow, that escalated quickly. Or not, I think it has been brewing for months now. I really don't know what to say. I'm at a loss for words.

I would understand if what you were missing was the DB -- without it, there's no patch of course. But the stadiums... I saw that BosnaZmajevi posted all the stadiums that you want converted; I counted them. They are 59. Fifty. Nine.

Do you guys have any idea what it means to convert a 3D model from a program to another? Because I do, I'm a CAD designer in real life, I've done my share of 3D modeling (AutoCAD, MicroStation, 3DS, you name it). If ALL 3D models in the world were universal (you simply import them and bam), I figure you would have all your stadiums by now. Information is lost in the process, since the formats are different, and besides, you'd also need to create any additional information required for the new program. If I import a 3D model of a piping system in MicroStation from AutoCAD, I always have to painstakingly select every pipe and tell MicroStation that that is a pipe with specific temperature/fluid/... characteristics, otherwise it thinks it's a hollow cylinder. It's the same for FIFA 16, just because the PES6 model has a Roof mesh, doesn't mean that FIFA 16 will recognize it.

Besides, you don't request them to the stadium makers: you demand them. I'm that kind of guy that, no matter what, if something is asked of me nicely, I rarely have it in my heart to say no. But you keep blaming the stadium makers, who have no obligation to you and probably have had enough of this continuous bombardment of demands. Again, not requests.

I could help you, of course, but I already know how it would end. As soon as I say yes, you guys are gonna be all over me, breathing on my neck, telling me to do this and that, to add one row of stands, and on and on. I hate it when my boss tells me to do it (even though I love my work), why would I have to endure the same for something that's supposed to be a hobby?

I'm sorry, I really was looking for to this patch, but now I'm not so sure. Oh, and it's not because of the missing stadiums, I can assure you of that.

This is what is really important to me, at least (it's still a game, no reason to get all worked up about it). The gameplay. Stadiums are nice, I like them, but I can live without.
https://www.evo-web.co.uk/threads/fifa-16-news-discussion-thread.75194/page-178#post-3364974
https://www.evo-web.co.uk/threads/fifa-16-news-discussion-thread.75194/page-178#post-3364974
And with that, this random unknown guy of yours salutes you.

Cheers, and good luck with your patch.

 

[makispla2017]

another point to be made is that we could use all this time waiting for the home ground of some obscure Polynesian team,to check the patch ,the rosters ,the tournament structure, etc. there wasn't a single patch in the history of fifa modding that was released without the need of after-release fixes...and the community input of course..
my recommendation:release a beta..a basic foundation of your patch(db ,kits,dlc),and then gradually release add-ons (a face add-on,a graphics one,stadia,shoes,etc..)

just my two cents...

 

[BosnaZmajevi]

Wow, that escalated quickly. Or not, I think it has been brewing for months now. I really don't know what to say. I'm at a loss for words.

I would understand if what you were missing was the DB -- without it, there's no patch of course. But the stadiums... I saw that BosnaZmajevi posted all the stadiums that you want converted; I counted them. They are 59. Fifty. Nine.

Do you guys have any idea what it means to convert a 3D model from a program to another? Because I do, I'm a CAD designer in real life, I've done my share of 3D modeling (AutoCAD, MicroStation, 3DS, you name it). If ALL 3D models in the world were universal (you simply import them and bam), I figure you would have all your stadiums by now. Information is lost in the process, since the formats are different, and besides, you'd also need to create any additional information required for the new program. If I import a 3D model of a piping system in MicroStation from AutoCAD, I always have to painstakingly select every pipe and tell MicroStation that that is a pipe with specific temperature/fluid/... characteristics, otherwise it thinks it's a hollow cylinder. It's the same for FIFA 16, just because the PES6 model has a Roof mesh, doesn't mean that FIFA 16 will recognize it.

Besides, you don't request them to the stadium makers: you demand them. I'm that kind of guy that, no matter what, if something is asked of me nicely, I rarely have it in my heart to say no. But you keep blaming the stadium makers, who have no obligation to you and probably have had enough of this continuous bombardment of demands. Again, not requests.

I could help you, of course, but I already know how it would end. As soon as I say yes, you guys are gonna be all over me, breathing on my neck, telling me to do this and that, to add one row of stands, and on and on. I hate it when my boss tells me to do it (even though I love my work), why would I have to endure the same for something that's supposed to be a hobby?

I'm sorry, I really was looking for to this patch, but now I'm not so sure. Oh, and it's not because of the missing stadiums, I can assure you of that.

This is what is really important to me, at least (it's still a game, no reason to get all worked up about it). The gameplay. Stadiums are nice, I like them, but I can live without.
https://www.evo-web.co.uk/threads/fifa-16-news-discussion-thread.75194/page-178#post-3364974
And with that, this random unknown guy of yours salutes you.

Cheers, and good luck with your patch.

You say it. Random unknown guy, if you have problem with request, great! We got more than 100 stadiums doing request.
Too much words, and yes you say it. We need least than 60, at first we have only 30. Thanks to the people who we request to join to this project, we only need that stadiums.. if no one requested never, maybe you will have only 30.
And maybe you can see our comments, always have a PLEASE, that isnt a demand.. plus i spends days and days doing crowds, i only need the converted model.
And for last, this patch is for all here, not only for us. That's why we need all stadiums. All people deserve they national stadiums, that's why we do this patch.
And hey!, people from South Korea, Uzbekistan, Syria, Egypt, China, Guatemala, El Salvador says me thanks a lot for your job, and now they are playing in they home, that's my only reward.. like i say all this time. I din't ask for money, i ask for job

 

[V1]

Nice so we have to find a solution how we can finish it or it probably will never be released. When the patch is 100% completed we can easily make RTQ 2022
without Problems but it is to much work the mooders have to do, there are so far i think just 1 who makes Stadiums. We Need minimum 5 to 8. And the Road to the World cup area should not die.
But i can fully understand that some Stadium Makers are not interested for this patch because the World Cup was last year and there have there own spare time and i am respecting it 100% but there are still some people out there who would love to Play it and simulate the qualifiers like me. If we are going to finish this patch there wont be that much work in the future and we could go easily on with the Road To The World cup 2022-2026 and so on.

 

[BosnaZmajevi]

Its funny, how some peoples ego get affected , if somebody talks truth..

The whole community is poisoned with peoiple who a) demanding something from other people or b) with people who dont want to share knowledge .... Where are the Modding Communities , where everbody works together in harmony to bring up the best... Its all about ego's nowadays.... Just take a look inside the nhl2004 community and compare the behaviour with things going around here....

We are working in peace, we have a team in PM. And the results are shared in my thread.. i don't know what egos are you talking about.

 

[BosnaZmajevi]

Nice so we have to find a solution how we can finish it or it probably will never be released. When the patch is 100% completed we can easily make RTQ 2022
without Problems but it is to much work the mooders have to do, there are so far i think just 1 who makes Stadiums. We Need minimum 5 to 8. And the Road to the World cup area should not die.
But i can fully understand that some Stadium Makers are not interested for this patch because the World Cup was last year and there have there own spare time and i am respecting it 100% but there are still some people out there who would love to Play it and simulate the qualifiers like me. If we are going to finish this patch there wont be that much work in the future and we could go easily on with the Road To The World cup 2022-2026 and so on.

Yes, but the problem it's that no one is working in this now.. everything sounds good, but the real thing, it's that the stadium project nowadays it's dead.
That's why we are REQUESTING, for help. Not demanding, if people here don't want to help, no problem. But don't wait for the patch, because it will not advance.
That's all

 

[V1]

Yes, but the problem it's that no one is working in this now.. everything sounds good, but the real thing, it's that the stadium project nowadays it's dead

Yeah there are still more then 60 Stadiums which have to be done i think or more and thats incredibly much work.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Robbie, can i ask you for a video of Balkan NT? just like you do with Visegrad, S.A and Nordic

Will be the next one.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Guys, let's please not flame each other. I am waiting for @NaFeR to send me the Tournament files. He will do this next week or the one after. Once I have this from him, I will release full beta. There will only be missing some minikits & minifaces & the national Stadiums not yet converted. All 2018 World Cup host stadiums have been made by @gonzaga.

After the beta is released I hope this will encourage more stadium makers here on these forums to help out with finishing the remaining national stadiums that still need to be converted/imported for this patch.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

I will say my opinion but I will end up hated

No you won't. You're free to say what you want.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Also, another thing from me. National stadiums (particularly for the non-UEFA ones) are always usually one venue. This is especially the case for small NTs, like CONCACAF Islands, OFC and small AFC & CAF countries. So if we get national stadiums, they can be reused across different competitions. Ideally, the Stadiums get converted before 2022 or 2026 World Cups!

 

[Ciais]

Do you read what i say?. I'm not demanding, but if you want patch fast, you need to work. That's all i say...
If you don't want patch fast, great.. wait to others do all job.
Where it's the demanding there haha.
Your words sounds good, but how do you feel if you take days and days of your time to do crowds, and someone come to say "you are only demanding" man.. please

Ok, maybe you're right, I was too harsh and I apologize

Let's leave it at that, alright?

I know I'm the one who started it, but I don't wanna fight anymore over something as trivial as a videogame

So, peace

 

[BosnaZmajevi]

Ok, maybe you're right, I was too harsh and I apologize

Let's leave it at that, alright?

I know I'm the one who started it, but I don't wanna fight anymore over something as trivial as a videogame
So, peace

In this i'm with you. Hope you join us to end this patch, and make happy the comunity

 

[Ciais]

Thank you

Sorry, but as I told you guys earlier, converting or making a 3D model is not as quick as it may seem, and I don't think I have the time as of now

Plus, I am already working on another (pretty difficult...) FIFA 16 project

Saludos

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Thank you

Sorry, but as I told you guys earlier, converting or making a 3D model is not as quick as it may seem, and I don't think I have the time as of now

Plus, I am already working on another (pretty difficult...) FIFA 16 project

Saludos

Can you tell us what is your project?

 

[Ciais]

I don't really see why not

It's a gameplay project. Yes, I know, "Another one? Why do you think yours is gonna be better than what we already have?". Forgive my corny impersonation of a typical FIFA 16 gamer

And he would be right, but I don't claim it's gonna be better or worse. The only difference from the other gameplay patches is that I'm gonna use, 1) v1.01 EXE of the game:
https://www.evo-web.co.uk/threads/fifa-16-news-discussion-thread.75194/page-178#post-3364974

Between all EA patches, this is the most realistic in terms of gameplay, from v1.02 it was more arcade by the minute (geared for online play). So you have more physicality, midfield battles, fouls... the perfect foundation for any gameplay tweaks.

PS: I don't believe it's piracy, since no cracks exist. You don't own the game, no matter the version of the EXE, you can't play.

PS2: As of yesterday, it looks like you don't need to block Origin.exe in your firewall anymore, but I wouldn't bet on it to be permanent.

2) With fifaCCitiu.com's blessing and his source code, I compiled his Gameplayzer, which I plan to edit with maybe some other minor tweaks (what he did is already pretty solid):
https://www.evo-web.co.uk/threads/fifa-16-news-discussion-thread.75194/page-179#post-3365369

Then we will work on the sliders and the cl.ini, plus maybe some other things.

And that's that.

Sorry for derailing the topic so much

 

[BosnaZmajevi]

Any stadium maker that wants to found why some stadiums are crashing in fifa 16?

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Guys, do any of you know where to find minifaces for the commentators pairs for each language? I've only seen Martin Tyler & Alan Smith on the EPL pop-ups.

 

[V1]

Hi Robbie could you upload how the menue looks like, you now like a preview of the mod

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Hi Robbie could you upload how the menue looks like, you now like a preview of the mod

It's the same as MWM World Cup mod.